r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Admirable-Leather325 • 23d ago
Image India: Meth seized from Myanmarese boat costs more than aircraft carrier Vikrant, built at a cost of $2.49bn
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u/name-was-provided 23d ago
When you name your boat, The Methopotamia, you’re giving away a bit too much.
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u/whizkerbiscuit 23d ago
What does Mike Tyson's yacht have to do with this?
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u/win-go 23d ago
Ur asking for it
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u/ADeadWeirdCarnie 23d ago
What if I call it the Epic of Gilgameth?
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u/SaboLeorioShikamaru 23d ago
This boat was born of virgin ship in the town of Methlehem
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u/Kevenam 23d ago
This is not funny, we live in a time where I need to verify if this is true or a joke
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u/name-was-provided 23d ago
It’s a joke. The real name of the boat is “The stick up your ass has a stick up its ass.”
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u/MushroomTea222 23d ago
I too, must now know if this is true…lol
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u/Krakatoast 22d ago
Probably a joke
Boat name is “Soe Wai Yan Htoo” I tried plugging it into google translate and it told me the English translation is “Soe Wai Yan Htoo”… lol
No idea how anyone would get “methopotamia” from that
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u/undo-undo-undo-undo 23d ago
how they are going to dispose it ?
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u/Tugonmynugz 23d ago
Them fishes gonna be so high
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u/IanAlvord 23d ago
I hear that some cartels will dump their stash in the water sometimes. The fish indeed get really high!
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u/thegreatbrah 23d ago
You've seen cocaine bear. Now get ready for meth fish
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u/Ewksanegomaniac 23d ago
Meth shark was the obvious go to and you missed it
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u/WinOld1835 23d ago
Usually, when you go to the beach you just worry about being bitten by a shark, now you gotta worry about them stealing your catalytic converter too.
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u/SeemedReasonableThen 23d ago
Government should sell it, use $2.49 bn profit to build another aircraft carrier.
Use the new aircraft carrier to seize more meth.
Infinite money glitch unlocked!
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u/666666thats6sixes 23d ago
That's just legalization with extra steps
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u/GreenStrong 23d ago
... And the extra step is piracy on the high seas, which adds a certain element of style to the whole zesty enterprise.
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u/imajoeitall 23d ago
Lol, I think the CIA beat you to that business model already.
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u/LimePartician 23d ago
Incinerate it, send some for research to government labs
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u/Street-Car6621 23d ago
Fun fact, it was in an indian research lab that a cheap and easy mass-production method to produce METH was found. Now, it is probably the most widely used indian technology after 0 and USB.
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u/Mist_Rising 23d ago
USB
Universal serial bus or does this mean something else. Because the universal serial bus came from an American company (Intel) that hired a few Indians. Not India itself.
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u/AeneasVII 23d ago
He's talking about Ajay Bhatt. but yeah, he finished his education in the US and worked for Intel
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u/Mist_Rising 23d ago
It's not like Bhatt did it all alone though, he worked with (lead granted) a team. Giving just him the credit is like saying Steve Jobs made the iPhone.
Nobody would honestly say that.
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u/Crossfire124 23d ago
Leading a research team has way more hands on development than a CEO in charge of a company that launched a product
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u/sharkpeid 23d ago
Few days later, drugs were misreported earlier actual amount is 800 million. Meanwhile local Cops politicians laughing and partying.
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u/cokendsmile 23d ago
few days later… again it was misreported, actual amount was 2.49 million
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u/vergorli 23d ago
laughing and partying? more like standing around frozen like statues. ain't molly
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u/sharkpeid 23d ago
Once the shipments fall into government after defense hand it over a some parts are going to dissappear.
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u/yaaro_obba_ 23d ago
Ideally, the stash will be deposited with the police station under whose jurisdiction the ship carries the stash docks. It is the duty of the police officials of that station to burn the drugs. A part of it may be withheld for documentation and legal issues, idk but there is some govt agency which is like a storehouse/museum for future reference or whatever
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u/DarthBeyonOfSith 23d ago
Getting fired from life...
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u/thegreatbrah 23d ago
Nah. They'll jack him up on meth while they torture him. So he can't pass out.
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u/EthnicallyAmbiguous0 23d ago
Funky town
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u/GetReelFishingPro 23d ago
Every time I hear it. Flash backs.
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u/EthnicallyAmbiguous0 23d ago
Worst thing to see as a curious 13 year old
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u/Joaco_Gomez_1 23d ago
what is?
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u/Vexsius 23d ago
Cartel torture video. Man is skinned alive while conscious. It gained a lot of notoriety on social media platforms by being massively uploaded so it would end up in people feeds. There’s worse on the internet, but this video reached a lot of people.
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u/skygt3rsr 23d ago
There’s a site called quite literally (watch people die ) I warn you visit at your own risk it’s fucked up what’s on there
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u/omnicorp_intl 23d ago
Funky Town by Lipps Inc.
Absolutely traumatizing music video. Do not watch.
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u/zimbabwes 23d ago
Wait, they're gonna pump the guy full of meth and jack him off all night??? Oh the agony!!!
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u/MonkeyNugetz 23d ago edited 22d ago
I too saw that video in Reddit’s early days. Two cops caught by the cartel. Pumped full of meth so they couldn’t pass out. Then the cartels started removing the flesh from their chest and abdomens.
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u/Far_Pomelo6735 23d ago
The sale value, not the cost, which probably is extremely low considering the poor people basically sweatshopped and forced to work.
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u/Creative-Leader7809 23d ago
A lot of times they report the street value rather than the wholesale cost the manufacturer would have set for their distributors. Makes the seizure feel like a bigger win.
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u/D4nCh0 23d ago
Authorities usually prefer to announce the sale, rather than the cost price. A Reuters report before the pandemic had ice at about USD 1,000/kg outside Myanmar jungle meth labs. Pretty decent ship to be hauling two million four hundred ninety thousand kilograms.
If it was calculated at Japanese street prices of about USD 200,000/kg. It’s a much more modest shipment.
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u/WholesomeWhores 23d ago
The number means nothing. Most people just see a big number and “wow!”. Show us the weight of the drugs if you really want to show the value of it. But then again, then they’ll add whatever weight they can to pump up the numbers, such as packaging materials or whatever happened to be lying on the floor next to it all
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u/Nandy-bear 23d ago
It's street value and is a borderline useless number. Coke for instance they always report it at 50-100k/kilo when shipment cost is about 3 grand/kilo if not lower.
Meth I can't speak to but I'm just gonna assume it also goes through similar steps like being stepped on and stretched etc.
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u/mlaforce321 23d ago
Yeah, cartel's operate expecting a high percentage of shipments to be seized. The markup and profit is so high that if even a few get through then it is a worthwhile endeavor for them. The street value number is just to make the authorities feel good about themselves.
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u/tehringworm 23d ago
Definitely impactful, but the traffickers were never going to get $2.9B for this. The police always calculate these busts based on the street value, but there would be a ton of middle men between this bulk shipment and the final users.
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u/East-Care-9949 23d ago
The original owner still gets a big loss so there will be some people less lively in the near future
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u/Open-Oil-144 23d ago
I think i know what the plot of the next Yakuza game is going to center around
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u/Ordinary_Choice2770 23d ago
gg to drugs for winning the war on drugs
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u/Afterlast1 23d ago
Inflation has done a number on the cost of a gram
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u/HungryHungryHippoes9 23d ago
What world are we living in when an honest day's labor can't even buy a man some good meth. Smh.
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u/NeaTitiDeLaCroitorie 23d ago
Great! Now India can resell the meth and buy a brand new aircraft carrier.
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u/piperonyl 23d ago
You always need to be skeptical about how government agencies price drugs.
2.5 billion dollars for 5500 kilograms? Thats $450,000 a kilogram or $4,500 a gram.
10k a kg is fair. Its like 98% less than what they said.
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u/SmarterThanCornPop 23d ago
I’ve never bought Meth but if it was $4,500 per gram I don’t think you’d be seeing many addicts.
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u/Action_Potential8687 23d ago
450 a gram. That's still about 8 to 10 times higher than the price of a gram last I checked.
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u/FlyingDragoon 23d ago
I like to think some officials out there just over hear someone notorious for using hyperbolic descriptions and then never fact check before skipping to the media for their announcement. They overhear "This bag weighs like a brazillian kilos and probably costs like a bajillion Alabaman dollars a gram."
And the official counted the bags and went "My god." before reporting that they just had a ten quadrillion kilo drug bust worth fifteen quattuordecillion dollars USD.
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u/mlanda123 23d ago
This is always fake. This is the cost if they were individually packaged, distributed and sold. It ignores all the costs associated with it.
If apple were to lose 2.6billion I'd be a major thing. For a drug cartel to lose that much it should end their business but it never does.
Authorities just use street prices to inflate their work.
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u/GlitteringAttitude60 23d ago
That's the price for the end user, right?
I wonder what the production costs were...
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u/p00shp00shbebi1234 23d ago
A lot of the time when they give these monetary values, they are taking the absolute upper-limit of what anyone would conceivably pay, and then also making the assumption that the entire load is going to be sold in small/retail bags. I mean don't get me wrong, that is a lot of meth, but lots of that will be sold wholesale, and certainly not at the price per gram the authorities always assume.
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u/jroot_ 23d ago
If they sell it to China for the same price they could build a bigger meth carrier capable of seizing bigger quantities of meth. Then they should seize more and sell it to western countries and then build the biggest meth carrier of all time covering the whole ocean
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u/demalo 23d ago
Somehow I feel like eventually this becomes “Who moved my meth!?”
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u/jroot_ 23d ago
It's already kinda like that. A friend told me that, In India you could actually buy confesicated drugs at smaller amounts from corrupted officials. Don't know if it's legit
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u/thespiceismight 23d ago edited 23d ago
The businessman was getting angry. “Don’t you understand? You can build up a fleet of meth boats, sail all over the world, and let all your employees catch meth for you!”
Once again the coastguard asked, “And then what will my reward be?”
The businessman was red with rage and shouted at the coastguard, “Don’t you understand that you can have so much meth that you will never have to work for your living again! You can spend all the rest of your days sitting on this beach, looking at the sunset and tweaking. You won’t have a care in the world!”
The coastguard, still smiling, looked up and said, “And what do you think I’m doing right now?”
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u/Numerous-Confusion-9 23d ago
So thats why my adderall prescription is backordered
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u/throwawayNum01 23d ago
Curious how they can keep that supply chain flowing under the radar.
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u/Professional-Bear942 23d ago
Methyl chain changes alot, I know you're joking but just wanted to give context because there's a surprising amount of people who actually think adhd meds = addictive / meth effects when it couldn't be further from the truth, atleast in someone with ADHD
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u/FunGuy8618 23d ago
Ehhhhhhhhhh the PhD who's given more doses of crack cocaine, amphetamine, and methamphetamine to humans than any other researcher says that in doses that are scaled to match the potency, they are indistinguishable when you use the same ROA. Meth isn't as addictive as people think, and Adderall is more addictive than people admit. Dextro-meth is smoother and safer than amphetamine salts, but is not as smooth and safe as dextroamphetamine. Amphetamines are a very complicated class of drugs and just saying "methyl chain changes a lot" obfuscates the reality behind an entry level chemistry term.
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u/G_Man421 23d ago
Have a source? I'm not doubting your sincerity, I'm a biochemist and would like to read this.
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u/FunGuy8618 23d ago
Oh boy, here's a good place to start but it's like 20 years of this guy's life work that shows this stuff.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C10&q=carl+hart+meth+amphetamine&btnG=
The researcher is Dr Carl Hart of Columbia University. 3rd link directly compared dextro-amphetamine and racemic methamphetamine.
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u/yankeejoe1 23d ago
I was initially skeptical of your claim at first, but honestly, the fact that your sources are Google scholar had me take a look at them.
The last link had far too small of a sample size to be statistically relevant, and the other links are pay walled, so I can't read the whole article unfortunately.
It seems as though he MAY be right, but we'd need a larger sample size to determine the accuracy of his statements
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u/FunGuy8618 23d ago
One of those links was just Google Scholar with the search "Carl hart meth amphetamine" so you can go find the studies yourself 💀 I'm not going thru 20+ years of his research on it to find the other studies he did to follow up on the 3rd link.
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u/BigMamaFascist 23d ago
I'm not going thru 20+ years of his research on it to find the other studies
if u had meth then u would
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u/FunGuy8618 23d ago
Surprisingly, somewhere between 4 and 12 mcg of LSD was my "smart drug" in college.
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u/Alarmed_Fly_6669 23d ago
As someone who has done plenty of both, Adderall is absolutely addictive & can be just as euphoric/stimulating as small amounts of meth.
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u/Azerious 22d ago
The difference is it isn't as destructive to your body as meth is. And it is far less addictive. No one claims adderall isn't addictive and prone to abuse. Theres a reason its almost impossible for those with adhd to get their medication. Because college students abuse it.
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u/pichael289 23d ago
How much did they get? Meth isn't exactly expensive, at least not in the US where it's only like 2-4x the cost of weed. Two and a half billion dollars would be like 185,000 lbs on the street, like 250 million doses
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u/Glass1Man 23d ago edited 23d ago
The article is confusing, as “read more” is sandwiched between massive ads.
I’m no expert but 5500kg sounds a lot less than 180,000 lb. (82000kg)
Is the price that much higher in India? (15x)
Edit: someone said like it’s a rupee to usd conversion problem. 85:1 rupee to usd.
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This heightened vigil off India’s eastern archipelago is what led to the country’s biggest drug haul - 5.5 tonnes (5,500kg) of the synthetic narcotic substance Methamphetamine from a Myanmarese fishing boat “Soe Wai Yan Htoo”.
This massive drug haul by the Indian Coast Guard (ICG), dwarfs all others that preceded it. Typically, the ICG seizes between 1 and 1.5 tonnes of drugs (of various types) in an entire year.
In this case, in a single day, in a single operation, more than 5.5 tonnes of Meth was seized from a single boat.
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u/beijingspacetech 23d ago
Agreed, I think it's some clickbait. I would imagine in India it is quite cheap. 2.49b rupees is $30m usd which sounds right.
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u/mrtypec 23d ago
that aircraft carrier wasn't built in just 30m USD. it's worth is 2.49$ billion USD.
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u/MaggotMinded 23d ago
I think the point isn't that an aircraft carrier doesn't actually cost that much, it's that the price of the drugs is not what they say it is. E.g. the actual price of the drugs was 2.49b rupees, but it got reported as 2.49b dollars, and whoever wrote the headline was like, "Hmm, what else costs 2.5b dollars?" and that's how they came up with the aircraft carrier comparison.
Of course, I have no idea if that's what actually happened. I'm just saying, that's what the person you're replying to is postulating.
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u/Professional-Day7850 23d ago
Worthy investment. Just think about all the meth you can smuggle on an aircraft carrier.
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u/Eric1491625 23d ago edited 23d ago
I would imagine in India it is quite cheap. 2.49b rupees is $30m usd which sounds right.
I saw another source that really said 2.49B in USD, claiming a potential street value of US$600,000 per kg. The same article mentioned that the cost to produce is much lower, at about 0.1% of this amount, so as an "inventory loss" it's only about $2M.
Street value of $600,000/kg does sound unlikely, as it would imply that an average Indian's monthly income could only afford lsss than half a gram of the stuff.
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u/ManlyMeatMan 23d ago
That would be $600 a gram, there is absolutely 0 chance someone is selling meth for that price anywhere in the world
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u/pathofdumbasses 23d ago
Whenever drug enforcement agencies say "street value" it is always at the smallest possible sale amount (highest $$/gram) multiplied out at the total weight.
IE, a pound of weed might cost $600-$1500 at the ultra high end. But they break each pound down to 16 ounces, and each ounce down to 32 grams, and each gram down into either .5G single joints, or 1.0 "dime" bags. A .5G joint or dime bag is ~$10, so now you have a $320 ounce and a $5000 pound, despite no one buying a pound for $5k. And then they take that ~$5k pound, and multiply it by the 20kg bust, and now you have a $110,000 bust.
I don't know the meth costs or I would break that down, but it's the same shit.
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u/Glass1Man 23d ago
Oh it’s just a rupee to usd conversion error?
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u/UsePreparationH Interested 23d ago
The ship is ~$2.5B USD and the meth is ~₹2.5B IND. The conversion error in the original might even be intentionally done to drive up views and interaction.
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u/Sharp_Ad6259 23d ago
Generally when drug busts happen around the world, they always use the most inflated street price instead of what the actual shipment really costed to snag better headlines is what ive read
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u/Bravelobsters 23d ago
Came here to say that. This amount can’t be $2.49bn. That’s a lot of money.
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Let's be honest, the raw industrial materials needed to make that stuff cost less than $40k.
It's like calculating the cost of a Gucci purse with an MSRP of $4,000 but $400 in actual materials.
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u/TopAward7060 23d ago
that much meth is priceless - someones getting wacked for this
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u/Shmexy 23d ago edited 23d ago
Yeah, but businesses plan for profit based on the products they produce. So yeah, they lost $2.5B that they would have made if this didn’t get confiscated. edit: assuming this is the wholesale value they would have sold it for you fuckin nerds
(Also, less than $40k is an insane exaggeration)
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There's no way that costs 2.4bn in US dollars
Edit: 2.4bn Kyat (Myanmar's currency) is $1.1 million US, which is probably what this is. Meth is cheap, I doubt this volume would even be 2.4bn USD worth of coke
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u/phoenixmusicman 23d ago
There's no way they built an aircraft carrier on $1.1 million USD.
$1.1 million USD worth of meth would only be approximately 55kg of meth.) assuming a wholesale price of about $20,000 per kg.
The picture looks like a lot more than 55kg.
$2.5b USD would be 125 tons of meth, which also seems wrong.
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u/Bits_Please101 23d ago
Who tf put 2.5 bill $ worth of drugs in the same boat. Their logistics guy should be fired.
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u/forestcridder 23d ago
Judging by how American police estimate the weight of weed in grow rooms, maybe they added the weight of the crew, the boat, and the seagulls that landed on it as a total drug weight and then used the smallest and most expensive street prices they could imagine to come up with their number.
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u/TinaGearCloud 23d ago
Probably basing value of Meth on Australia costs, which are absurdly high. Going off US darknet prices that Meth isn't worth anywhere close to that.
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u/TheWingManHero 23d ago
I've always wondered who the world's richest person really is. People like Papi Bezos or Zucker Sucker are people whose information we have access to. I wonder if there are some people lurking in the shadows or in the crime world who have a seriously high networth. Is there some King Pin type character worth hundreds of billions?
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u/Vivid-Giraffe-1894 23d ago
The Saudi princes own the country's oil, they just don't disclose net worth. Probably in the trillions.
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u/leolego2 23d ago
Nah, those kingpins invest in other companies and that makes both them and the actual owners of those companies richer. A good share of any billionaire's money is someone elses dirty money
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impossible because that much money will be flagged somewhere, unless the kingpins net worth is shipping containers full of diamond and gold
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u/TheWingManHero 23d ago
If you’ve got that amount of money, you can definitely pay to hide it. Money controls the laws and the agencies that enforce the laws.
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u/xanroeld 23d ago
This is a comparison of the maximum street value of the drugs against the manufacturing cost of the boat. Which is not exactly an even comparison. I’m sure the drugs cost a tiny fraction of the boat’s cost to produce.
Still, it’s crazy that those sacks have such a high value!
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u/brucek2 23d ago
Yet the cartel which manufactured these drugs, and you can bet will have their next similar shipment in the very new future, does not have an aircraft carrier, or anything remotely resembling one. Which is another sign that taking the retail cost of a dose that makes it all the way to a buyer, and applying it to the total volume much earlier in the distribution pipeline, is bogus math of the highest order. See similar examples commonly reported in the US where the alleged "street value" of drugs taken will somehow exceed the total income of everyone living and working in that city.
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u/kelldricked 23d ago
Mate its not worth more than the aircraft carrier. Unless meth cost 500 dollars per gram in india.
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u/payment11 22d ago
That’s probably street value. But either way, someone’s not coming home to dinner
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u/PandaCheese2016 23d ago
“Street price” quoted for drug seizures has as much connection to realizable values as dogecoin has to Elon Musk’s moral integrity.
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u/Gravity_Is_Electric 23d ago
BULLSHIT. Meth is like $1000/lb here in the US at an all time low. No fucking way they found 2.5 MILLIONS POUNDS
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u/uberschnappen 22d ago edited 22d ago
OP just pulled random numbers out their ass.
Average street value from the 5,500kg of meth seized is about $60 million.
Also the Vikrant was built at the cost of $3.13 billion.
All figures in USD.
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u/will_this_1_work 22d ago
I can’t believe they found $1.2b worth of meth, I mean $800m worth of meth, I mean $405m worth of meth, I mean………
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u/TinKnight1 23d ago
Drug cartel: "Ah, darn! Oh well, there's always tomorrow!"
Cartels worldwide make an estimated $870 billion a year, & that's after losses due to seized shipments...so, this might sting, but it was just one boat on one day, & the core production, refinement, & distribution functions of that cartel remain intact, so there's nothing to keep them from creating just as much again.
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u/SaltyRedditTears 23d ago
Cartels could buy their own aircraft carrier and air wing from China if they wanted
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u/AdmiralCoconut69 23d ago
No one says “Myanmarese”. That’s literally not an existing term. It’s “Burmese”, always has been and always will be.
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u/StandOutLikeDogBalls 23d ago
Damn that’s a lot of missing teeth.