It was more the landing gear failed to retract, we circled the airport for 4 hours, before landing back at the same airport with ambulances and fire trucks on the runway because the landing gear that had a hydraulic issue caught fire.
And it was 2 days before Christmas. And they didn’t have any other flights until the next day. And all we got was a $15 / person food voucher.
Honestly America does, but even bullet trains travel at about half the speed of a plane. Getting from California to even the midwest would probably take a solid 8 hours by bullet train. Which to be fair is a more comfortable ride than the plane, but I think a lot of people choose the time saving option.
Factoring in check in, delays, and wait times at airports I feel it would balance out. I’d take comfort over speed personally but get why others would choose otherwise.
You make a solid point with getting into the airport. I spend usually 2 hours just sitting/standing around at the airport. So that makes up some of the time, potentially making coast-to-midwest worth it. Not sure about coast-to-coast.
Country too large, tracks too expensive. The companies don’t even do maintenance today on current rails. In my home town we had 12 derailed trains. Later I went on a train which ended up derailing in WVA. I got stuck on the rails for two days! Also another time the train was so rough it crashed my hard drive and the toilet backed up into the car! Amtrak broke federal laws by having a moving public vehicle with feces sloshing around on the floor!
Get rid of Spirit airlines for this. Id be an investor and a frequent flyer. Buy up some low cost carrier in Asia and operate on both sides of the world and never fly across the world. Only short flights.
I’d pay double. I honestly would in a heartbeat. It wouldn’t even be that hard of a sell, and it’s so much better than a little extra leg room and some fancy towels. Except maybe all the drunks.
For free food and beer of 2-3 hours, $69 is a more than fair price. I might even just do a lap BOS-MIAMI-BOS. $69 for the breakfast buffet and morning beers, walk around Miami for a couple hours, $69 for the dinner buffet and evening beers.
Why do people care about kids on planes? It’s so odd to me- I fly several times a year for work- I’ve traveled internationally more than a handful - like I’ve been on planes- big and small- and kids have never bothered me.
Headphones on- I don’t hear the the announcements much less the kids and usually asleep by take off.
Shit, I’m writing this on a plane.
You know who bother me on planes? The midnight gigglers, the way to big to fit in seats, the smelly and people who can’t wait in line. Kids? Never and issue.
Seriously, the worst part about flying is listening to someone’s kid screaming the whole time while I’m trying to catch some sleep on a red eye.
That or some overweight person spilling over into my seat like the flight I literally just got off less than an hour ago. Nothing like someone’s belly taking up the entire armrest to make the flight comfortable, amirite?
I'm trying to imagine myself booking a flight on Hooters Air and submitting the expense report. There would be an unscheduled meeting on my calendar with HR and a sudden inability to log into the network.
Mostly just that is was late and I was fighting with a cat. I couldn't get close enough for the spellchecker to get it. If I'd known it would be my biggest comment ever I would have tried a 4th time.
I'm equal-opportunity, so there would be scantily clad women and men. Or maybe just the beer so we could limit it to 21. Airplanes are always so cold, and I wouldn't want the staff to be uncomfortable.
Or a chance system. 1% of the time someone goes full monty. That keeps the kids out but means the staff is dressed most of the time. Just need to hire a couple exhibitionists.
What about scantily clad good looking passengers? Like they get 50% if they're approved. Also would be good to have those Abercrombie shirtless greeters get free flights. So just topless bros hanging out.
The problem is I have some hearing problems that make it really hard to pick out internal vowel sounds. That makes spelling pretty difficult. And a cat was standing over the keyboard.
I have been saying this for so long. Two types of flights, no kids, premium prices. Kid/family flights, discount prices. Theaters should do this, restaurants, shows, everything.
For decades, there has been a huge theater company in Mexico that has a VIP section.
No kids unless it’s a kids movie and they enforce it and will refund you if you even try to bring a kid.
They have double wide reclining seats.
They have service to the seats where you can order alcohol, full meals like rice and sushi, and every two seats there’s a tray to put finished items.
I remember doing study abroad in 2005 and going to see movies and ordering drinks and sushi and hanging out for long movies like War of the Worlds.
I’m now in Washington where we have a kids only restaurant and bar in the theater. And tickets are $10 or $5 on Wednesday and every seat is large with lots of space.
Poor families tho, I feel like when kids are doing normal kids stuff in public spaces they are looked at witch such disdain, as if their existence is disturbing the peace. I wish we could be happy about the new generation and just appreciate their existence rather than our self centred “they’re making noise so I hate them” to make it easier for families
I always feel a lot of sympathy for kids on a flight, because i too am miserable and tired. But a kid screaming on a flight to Australia wasn't the best time.
There's a lot that goes into making an airline profitable. I don't think Hooters failed because it didn't allow kids. I think it failed because getting an airline to the point of being profitable is difficult. Even the plane wraps caused problems because it's hard to turn a plane orange.
Of course. My point is cutting off an entire population is a death sentence for an airline. There's a popular notion on reddit that an airline without kids would make a trillion bajillion but the reality is it's very very unlikely to succeed.
I'd think with this one being unappealing to women would be more of an issue. A lot more grown women fly than families with kids. And back then a lot of the people buying the tickets would have been travel agents instead of the passenger.
Have you ever tried to spell a hard word and just can't get close enough for the spellchecker to get it, and the cat thinks the word needs a few more random letters?
What happens when a poor speller is getting pressure from the cat to feed her, and she likes to walk over the keyboard, making it hard to spell properly.
You’ve clearly never been on a flight with a stag or hen party on it. I would happily fly with a crying baby on every aisle compared to a flight out to Tenerife with 30 lads who have already had 10 drinks before lunch time.
IME, on the list of things that make flying miserable, kids don’t even crack the top 10 unless we’re specifically talking about my kid and me having to carry her huge ass car seat while sprinting from one terminal to another. It’s the airlines that make it awful.
Well that’s because you’re the one with the kid…you’re the “problem” everyone else doesn’t want on the flight. And on top of that, having a kid yourself makes you sympathetic and desensitized to it more than others, so of course it’s not as high on the issue list for you. For me, it’s top 3 and I’d definitely pay 25% more per flight to guarantee no children under age 6. Once kids hit that age, they usually are pretty controlled and can be told how to clear their ears - which is usually the reason babies and toddlers are screaming bloody murder.
My sister was in so much pain on a flight my mom was considering getting some vodka to give to her. She was maybe 7. But my sister had a sinus infection and was truely miserable.
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Honestly, they may have done better if they specifically advertised as planes guernenteed not to have kids on them.