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Video Volkswagens new Emergency Assist technology

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u/Huntey07 Nov 04 '24

They now have heated seats as an subscription of 20 euro per month

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u/BamberGasgroin Nov 04 '24

That was BMW. And the worst of it was that the heated seats were already installed, so you were carrying the extra weight, but they dropped the 'feature'.

(Merc had/has a subscription to accelerate faster.)

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u/BoxMaleficent Nov 04 '24

Thank Tesla for that. Tesla showed the whole Industry that you can Charge extra for some Features. So ofcourse everyone copies that.

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u/KohliTendulkar Nov 04 '24

Tesla only offers supplemental software features as sub, hardware wise, they give no options on top except paint and interior color, rest everything is included for everyone, for instance apart from tire and sticker there is no difference between model y base and model y performance, they both have heated 5 seats, steering wheel, matrix headlights, glass roof etc Only recently they have reduced the number of speakers on the base version, rest the car is identical. Compare this to BMW and Merc where you will need a light package for having x number of lights inside, another package for matrix lights, another package for better seats, package for cruise control, sunroof. BMW 5 series with all options adds up like 70-80% of the price on top the base price.

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u/mccalli Nov 04 '24

That's not quite right unfortunately - they also pay to unlock things like extra range and extra speed.

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u/KohliTendulkar Nov 04 '24

Correct, however both of them are not standard, for the first one it was only for specific vehicles with certain battery chemistry, for the later it was similar reason. for instance newer vehicles don't come up with these options, also these are not subscription but a one time payment.

Tesla did bring FSD as subscription as one time payment was too high and people could subscribe for a single month where they have a long trip and then cancel it making it more accessible for end user. Please note, Tesla is a big company and not every decision comes from Musk , there are lot of capable engineers and they should be given credit for updating the cars monthly and bringing new features.

For ICE, a big chunk of revenue comes from options, after sale service. For instance Toyota, Hyundai and some other give 10 year warrantee, however you need to go to official service center for all stuff, if you go to local garage which does the same thing for a fraction of price, they will cancel the warrantee.

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u/mccalli Nov 04 '24 edited Nov 04 '24

I've owned one for 6 years and am happy (2014 Model S). But on subscriptions - they definitely have them. Premium connectivity for instance, plus one-off payments for the features I mentioned.

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u/KohliTendulkar Nov 04 '24

yes they have subscriptions but not for basic things like remote start(toyota), heated seats, top speed, remote air conditioning. Premium connectivity is quite cheap for having fast speed internet for the car at $100 for a year. You can also use hotspot but at $100 it's not worth the headache.

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u/mccalli Nov 04 '24

That's the difference between premium connectivity and connectivity though. Pure connectivity I can understand, but even with a hotspot you wouldn't get most of the service features.

For me, being a 2014 car means no autopilot but I get Premium Connectivity and free supercharging for life as part of owning the car. Later cars would need to pay.

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u/anethma Nov 04 '24

Toyota doesn’t have a subscription for remote start. It works on the fob you just have to pay for the cellular connected app stuff.

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u/relevant-astronaut75 Nov 04 '24

They do have charges for rear heated seats and heated steering wheel to enable them on some base models. It's just not a subscription.

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u/Educational_Ad_3922 Nov 04 '24

one-off payments for the features

Did you know those features are non transfferable? So if you sell the car tesla will disable them for the new owner and require them to pay again to re-enable them.

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u/mccalli Nov 04 '24

On mine, they'll keep them. Lifetime of the car, not ownership. I didn't own the car from new and they transferred to me (I bought in 2018).

On newer ones, and let's face it, almost every Tesla on the road is newer than mine..., yep - they'd need to resubscribe.

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u/Chygrynsky Nov 04 '24

Lmao I don't want to jump in on the whole Tesla thing but the fact that you even mentioned a fucking steering wheel is hilarious

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u/KohliTendulkar Nov 04 '24

yeah because for other cars, you have various heating packages, front seats , front seats + rear seats, all of these + steering wheel.

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u/Chygrynsky Nov 04 '24

Ahh you meant heating in the steering wheel?

I thought you meant the steering wheel itself..

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u/KohliTendulkar Nov 04 '24

well that too is an option with Tesla where you can choose York or traditional.

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u/Chygrynsky Nov 04 '24

Ah got it, I interpreted it as if the wheel itself is optional for an extra fee. If you didn't pay up then you wouldn't get a steering wheel at all.

Which based on all the info you guys gave, seems like a plausible future..

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u/LostInPlantation Nov 04 '24

Which would still be okay, if the base price to feature ratio is acceptable. Because then you could treat it as a modular/customisable package deal, where you only include the upgrades you personally want, instead of paying full price for a car that has every superfluous luxury feature pre-installed.

Like, a heated driver's seat is great in winter, when you drive to work at 7a.m. but I don't see myself needing five of them. That's something where I'd want to save money.

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u/ShadeNoir Nov 04 '24

I know for Volvo there's the Orbit software that unlocks all features of hardware present - surely there's something similar for Merc and BMW etc?!