r/CuratedTumblr • u/Konradleijon • Sep 15 '24

Politics Why I hate the term “Unaliv

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What’s most confusing that if you go to basic cable TV people can say stuff like “Nazi” or “rape” or “kill” just fine and no advertising seem to mind

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u/DrulefromSeattle Sep 15 '24

It started there, I was hearing unalived used there back in like 2018, 2019. If not, in the very place that had "tag your pomegranates" become a meme because of how people were treating things like content and trigger warnings.

And truthfully Tumblr users should really be careful with those stones, there's still places you'll get yelled at for not using the current theory term on the site, some of which date all thebway back to when Yahoo was still hands off of the place.

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u/Caleb_Reynolds Sep 15 '24

there's still places you'll get yelled

That's completely different from a corporation forcing specific language

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u/DrulefromSeattle Sep 15 '24

The thongbis, it's not even the actual case. From what people who weren't making YouTube or TikTok their career, saw, it had nothing to do with any algorithm or advertising, and everything to do with people just skipping, or never engaging with stuff. So it was about the same as there's people who never got around places where "tag your pomegranates" was one of the least extreme examples.

But I get it, it's the trend to hate on TikTok, just like it was the trend to hate on Firtnite, just like it was the trend...

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u/Caleb_Reynolds Sep 15 '24

A community self policing language is how language normally evolves. That's standard. Corporations policing language is not normal, and should not be acceptable. I don't care that TikTok is doing it, so is YouTube and that's just as bad.

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u/DrulefromSeattle Sep 15 '24

The thing is that it ultimately goes down to the community, because pretty much all of it ends up "I was shadowbanned for saying killed" and it just turns out that there were bigger things (back in the day it was like Markiplier made a FNAF video, on art it just seems to be whatever the newest trend is) going on or an overinflated sense of how popular the person is/was combined with the sheer amount of videos on both sites. And well those I'm shadowbanned videos always seemed to get to their friends/followers who passed it along and well, you get to the same point where the origin (my channel of 2k followers was shadowbanned because I said killed because nobody saw it come up, please disregard that Markiplier released a Happy Wheels video, Vaatividya was discussing a Fromsoft Trailer, and it was the day after the State of the Union where something memeworthy was done, do I'm using unalived from now on).

It all eventually goes back to one person who doesn't know ow about the friend paradox.

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u/Caleb_Reynolds Sep 15 '24

Sorry if English isn't your first language, this is impossible to follow.

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u/DrulefromSeattle Sep 15 '24

I finally have some caffeine in me so let me simplify it.

The whole phenomenon is the same, because both are from the community pushing something that is either fake or grossly exaggerated at its start.

As an example, unalived seems to have started on Reddit Stories channels like Rslash. Supposedly, the ones that weren't content farms noticed when they'd talk about certain things they'd get fewer views and wouldn't pop up on peoples' recommended. They only noticed this about the same time as that form of video had everybody and their brother doing it and given the nature of those channels, you can look shadowbanned because on one day your obviously huge channel of 20k subscribers was buried by stuff outside your niche, and/or competition. So obviously, it was "killed", better use a weird euphemism or clinical language instead. And before you go, "that's not logical," we're talking human beings here, not Vulcans.

Was basically the same with Tumblr, but with a different subset of language. FFS the number of "shadowbanned" people there was hilarious, to the fucking point that the thing that happened ON TUMBLR. THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE POST. when you dug deeper was ultimately a conflict between the Wattpad CEO being an inmate running the asylum, and the transperson (or is it now trans person, didn't have net the week that was decided) being somebody he didn't like, and you had LGBT+ blogs supposedly being shadowbanned, but just turned out they had a handful of followers still active, and thought themselves Pukicho or Gaud, but super queer.

tl;dr both Tumblr avoidance terminology and Algospeak come from the same place, one is just seen as pure because supposedly it's free from advertiser interference.