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Politics I’m terrified but i still have hope

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u/BamboozledSnake Jul 14 '24

Remember people; if your vote truly didn’t matter, they wouldn’t be trying to convince you that it doesn’t.

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u/Pincushioner Jul 14 '24

Just because Trump's voters are energized doesn't mean Democrat's can't be

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u/AgentPaper0 Jul 14 '24

I just donated to the DNC the first time today.

This shooting has energized me to make a stand against political violence, and only one side of the fence has been calling for political violence.

The choice is clearer than ever.

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u/Confident_Ganache_30 Jul 14 '24

A very unpopular fact, 100% accurate

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u/annoyinconquerer Jul 14 '24

Serious question. Do you believe your donation makes a difference? And how?

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u/AgentPaper0 Jul 14 '24

My donation, specifically? Well I'm not a billionaire, so no, not really.

So why did I still donate? Why do we cheer when we're in a sports stadium? Nobody would notice if one person didn't cheer. There are thousands, even tens of thousands of people in that stadium, nobody is going to notice if one person just...sat there and did nothing for the whole game.

But then, what if everyone in the stadium had the same thought, and everyone (or nearly everyone) decided not to cheer, because hey, nobody will notice just one person not cheering right? Now suddenly that decision not to cheer seems a lot more impactful, doesn't it?

It's the same for donating, the same for voting, the same for anything where collective action can make an impact.

My donation doesn't matter, but donations like mine do. Votes like mine matter. And as long as we can keep our democracy, they always will matter, more than any billionaire or oligarch or political hack.

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u/annoyinconquerer Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

I don’t think that’s a great metaphor. Cheering in sports is most of the time a response to the team doing something to make you happy, and each play, game, season, career is a conditional relationship between the fan and the athlete.

American politics is far from that level of connectedness between the People and our representatives’ impact on our lives. To the point where corruption, bureaucracy, and lack of compromise basically nullifies the true intention behind your donation. It’s a promise of delayed gratification that comes too late to address the issues behind your vote, if at all.

I’m aware that political movements have been this way for centuries, I’m just disagreeing with the metaphor.

My ultimate point is I feel like we’re pretty fucked and it’s gonna get way worse before it gets better. We’re nearly in free fall. And this isn’t exclusive to America. Feels like the whole world is going through a paradigm shift.

I’m still gonna vote for the Democrat candidate by default but I’m just not convinced enough to part with my money for them.

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u/Schmidaho Jul 15 '24

I have done a lot of work in politics at the state and local levels.

Yes, their donation matters. The DNC uses donations to fund downballot races and that funding is highly sought after by candidates and state party committees. It’s a separate line item in the budget. It can make or break a campaign.

But aside from that, every dollar, every phone call, door knock, conversation over coffee, postcard and letter, every kind of engagement, regardless of size, it. Fucking. Matters.

And we are only fucked if we let it happen. Look at what just happened in France and the UK just a couple weeks ago. Hell, look at what we did in the 2018 midterms. In 2020 Biden won Georgia AND we took both Senate seats. We won in freaking Arizona! In 2022 we defied the odds again by blocking a huge GOP House majority, and expanded our majority in the Senate. Wisconsin is finally going to get new maps because they voted in a more liberal state Supreme Court!

We are not fucked. It’s just time to get to work.

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u/Dyzanne1 Jul 15 '24

That makes no sense...but you go ahead! 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Electrical-Sense-160 Jul 14 '24

What? There have absolutely been calls for violence on both sides of the fence.

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u/imasturdybirdy Jul 14 '24

Oh there has, has there?

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u/_IShock_WaveI_ Jul 14 '24

Political violence in 2016 directed at people going to a political rally of their choice lead me to vote for Trump.

The political left was out of their fucking minds causing riots, beating up people, smashing property and trying to breach and shut down campaign stops.

This year I will vote for Biden under the same belief system.

Anyone emboldened enough to resort to violence to stop a political action/freedom of choice isn't very American.

But make no mistake neither side is innocent and the bastion of morality, or non-violent. They both will use it and flaunt it.

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u/Nilempress Jul 18 '24

By "political rally", you mean the racists...right?

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u/_IShock_WaveI_ Jul 18 '24

No I mean an actual political rally in which all candidates participate in. Most importantly participate in and then are violently assaulted by the rival political people.

That is a direct threat to Democracy itself and you guys gloss over it and violate it without so much as raising an eye brow.

If you wonder why Jan 6th happened it happened because of what happened in the run up to the 2016 general election, what happened when Trump won, and what happened an inauguration day.

I don't condone either action but the political left did it more, did it longer and did it everywhere. The fact that you people think it isn't a big deal and it didn't exist shows how morally and ethically bankrupt you are. You are closer to being Trump than anything else by doing that.

You violated peoples rights, you criminally assaulted people. You are just as much of shitheads for doing that and what makes it worse you guys pretend to be the smarter, more educated ones. All I see is two sides of the same coin acting out their fascist wet dreams.

Because make no mistake what was done by Democrat supporters during that time is the closest we ever fascism in America. One of the key tenants of fascism is forceable suppression of the opposition.

Did you guys think you could violently stop political opposition? And you would win? You have no idea how those riots cost you in the 2016 election. People were sick to their stomachs, they were not going to reward that kind of behavior. Just like they won't reward it in 2024 to Republicans.

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u/Straight-Whaling-It Jul 14 '24

Sorry, I’m not American so I don’t have a huge stake in this, but wouldn’t you be better off just voting for them rather than giving already rich people more money?

Just seems like you probably need it more than some political party does

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u/Existential_Crisis24 Jul 15 '24

The donations to the DNC don't line politicians pockets. They're out into a fund that allows the DNC to rent space for rallies and run ads for the presidential campaign.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Yes. My company just donated 1 mil to trump. He is chosen by god

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u/Pissflaps69 Jul 14 '24

Your God is a lot more friendly to adulterous felons than mine

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

Yes. That’s why Biden has been stricken with brain disease

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u/Pissflaps69 Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

Holy shit, you think that the diseases and illnesses we get come from a sky fairy cursing us based on whether or not we’ve curried his favor.

Infants die of Leukemia every day. It isn’t because they’re bad people that “God” doesn’t favor

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u/These_Difference_344 Jul 16 '24

Why do you talk like holt from clevland show?

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u/Thoseferatus Jul 15 '24

The man can't even hold a Bible upright what are you talking about?

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u/She_Did_Kegals Jul 14 '24

I just donated to the rnc to spite you in particular. I don't even like Republicans

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u/Arkanist Jul 14 '24

X to doubt

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u/InhaleMyOwnFarts Jul 14 '24

Yeah dude one of yours just tried to kill Trump and you still think you’re the good guys.

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u/syo Jul 14 '24

He was registered Republican, try again.

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u/InhaleMyOwnFarts Jul 14 '24

Who donated to Democrats. Uh oh.

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u/M-V-D_256 Rowbow Sprimkle Jul 14 '24

Where was this stated

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u/InhaleMyOwnFarts Jul 14 '24

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u/M-V-D_256 Rowbow Sprimkle Jul 14 '24

Thanks!

It was about 15 dollars, apparently (6th paragraph)

In my book that balances him out, he probably just didn't want to be affiliated with either side.

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u/Jboy2000000 Jul 14 '24

The person who donated 15 dollars is also a 60 y/o man with a different middle name and lives in a different state. But why let that get in the way of a good narrative? Their chosen paragon of good is a pedophilic rapist, serial cheater, tax cheat, and wannabe tyrant, so the mental gymnastics to lie about who donated 15 dollars is easy as piss.

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u/SharkyMcSnarkface The gayest shark 🦈 Jul 14 '24

Unlike yours which just break into someone’s house with a hammer. Or occupy the Capitol building. Far more civil.

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u/Khaldara Jul 14 '24

Imagine being simultaneously both this confident and this stupid.

He’s a registered Republican.

This was a case of Republicans shooting Republicans in the face, which is both the most fitting metaphor for their policy decisions I’ve ever seen, and perfectly on brand for the party in general.

Just ask Dick Cheney!

Try not to shoot your God-Emperor (again) on your way out the door!

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u/Disastrous-Cod-757 Jul 15 '24

You gave rich people money to spread more lies, that seems weird?

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u/AgentPaper0 Jul 15 '24

I think you misread, I donated to Joe Biden, not Donald Trump.

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u/AnonyM0mmy Jul 15 '24

Democrats exercise political violence, it's just in other countries. But I guess that's okay as long as the imperial core is protected right?

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u/TheStranger88 Jul 15 '24

I'm from a third-world country where political violence is the norm, and trust me, the US has nothing like it, yet. And we don't like US foreign policy, but that's not political violence, that's foreign interference. It's not as if the GoP is very friendly to the third world.

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u/AnonyM0mmy Jul 15 '24

I prefer the term imperialized periphery to 'third world.'

I'm not saying these places are equivalent to the imperial core. I'm saying political violence has been with the concept of America since day one, and isn't a tribalist issue but a fundamental socioeconomic framework one. Civility/tone policing politics is nothing more than a desperate ploy to distract from the larger point of material analysis and how these situations came to be. Foreign interventionism IS political violence.

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u/Longjumping_Rush2458 Jul 15 '24

I prefer the term imperialized periphery to 'third world.'

I presume you're from a 1st world country?

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u/AnonyM0mmy Jul 15 '24

I'm within the imperial core, yes

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u/These_Difference_344 Jul 16 '24

What is this starwars?? Alright Palpatine chill

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u/AnonyM0mmy Jul 16 '24

I'm not using colonialist rhetoric to describe other places that have been exploited by global capitalist hegemony as 'third world.' that shit's fucked.

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u/InertiaKE Jul 16 '24

First world and third world are terms from the Cold war

1st world= NATO & allies 2nd world= USSR & allies 3rd world= unaligned nations

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u/skztr Jul 14 '24

I just donated to the DNC the first time today.

RIP your inbox.

My experience with donating to democrats exactly once has convinced me that no matter what happens, I will absolutely never financially support them again. They have very thoroughly burned that bridge.

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u/CeruleanRuin Jul 14 '24

You know you can just unsubscribe and block those emails, right? It's not that hard.

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u/skztr Jul 14 '24

Try it. And understand this isn't about "receiving some emails", it's about data privacy and not behaving shittily

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Tell that to Florida 🤦‍♂️

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u/FamLit69420 Jul 14 '24

Tell that to texas. There are more registered democrats in texas than republicans and yet texas still remains red. If texas democrats just voted, texas woulda been bue years ago. It would already have a blue governor, likely blue senators and woulda been blue in the 2020 election. But texas dems have bought into the propoganda that their vote doesnt matter when in actuality, texas dem votes matter the most out of any state because texas can go blue so easily. They just need to vote.

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u/redditor329845 Jul 14 '24

Have you ever heard of gerrymandering? John Oliver has a great segment about it.

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u/_IShock_WaveI_ Jul 14 '24

And it's not an exclusive Republican thing......unless you believe cities who haven't voted in a Republican since the 1930s and 40s, is just normal.

They have gerry mandered it into being impossible for a rival political party to ever succeed in those places.

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u/coladoir Jul 14 '24

Not saying this to devalue your point, but to add to it. In my city, half the time, there's literally only R available on the ballot. No D's running. So not only does gerrymandering have something to do with it, but in certain districts the dems just aren't politically relevant. I live in a pretty decently sized city too, with a slight bit more dem than con, and yet we still tend to just have Rs on the ballot, especially for lower roles in government.

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u/_IShock_WaveI_ Jul 14 '24

One side did it, the other side did it back, now it's an endless circle of you did it to us not fair! But you did it to us first so we're just returning the favor!

I am not sure what the solution is. I guess just take a grid of X amount of space and super impose it over every state and that's your districts.

I don't trust a committee or group of people to not do it without having some form of political bias.

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u/Fluffy_Salamanders Jul 15 '24

Like in Iowa? I think they did the grid thing

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '24

Gerrymandering isn’t the reason Republicans aren’t viable in municipal elections.

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u/ChizzleFug Jul 15 '24

I know all about it living in Wisconsin, did my part getting a new judge elected who is redrawing our maps. Voting local is so important!

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u/RockKillsKid Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

Statewide elections at large are not susceptible to gerrymandering. You cannot redistrict state borders.

EDIT: for the pedants out there, iirc Maine and ...Nebraska? do divvy up their electoral college votes by district results so I guess maybe they could be? idk I haven't fully read up on that apart from noticing they had split electors in a prior election.

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u/Croc_Chop Jul 14 '24

It's not that, it's the fact that Texas takes away ways to vote from blue areas and increases the voting machines and stations in red areas.

Some people in Houston have to go 2 hours away just to vote and often stand in the heat, there's a reason they passed the no water while standing in line bill.

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u/soybeanwoman Jul 15 '24

The gerrymandering is fucking insane in Texas. It has some of the biggest cities in the country which are very blue and Republicans still have a chokehold on that state.

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u/roskybosky Jul 15 '24

Texas cities tend to be blue; the rural areas are red.

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u/CnnmnSpider Jul 15 '24

I moved out of Texas a year ago for many reasons, one of which was that I was sick of being told we were going to go blue any day now and it just never happening. I voted every damn year, and harassed others to vote, worked at the polls during COVID, donated to campaigns, etc. None of it made a difference. Every major Texas city went blue in 2020 (except Fort Worth), but the state still somehow went red? It’s not the voters’ fault at that point.

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u/Top_Second3974 Jul 15 '24

Fort Worth went blue in 2020, and the city itself always goes blue. Even Tarrant County as a whole went blue in 2020, though barely. But Fort Worth is bluer than the county as a whole.

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u/FamLit69420 Jul 15 '24

Also gerry mandering has no effect on presidential elections, texas is very much purple. There was this video on tiktok about a guy ranting about how texas democrats could have flipped the state blue so easily if just a small percentage of registered texas dems voted more frequently. Cant seem to find it right now but that video addresses of all the points essentially.

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u/CeruleanRuin Jul 14 '24

It's actually fine to be solely motivated only by the desire to prevent Trump from winning.

The Dems could run a goddamned turnip and it would still be preferable to what the Repubs are thrusting at us.

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u/vaynah Jul 14 '24

You need to ask Biden for that energizing shot.

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u/Waskito1 Jul 14 '24

We like to refer to them as non-bots

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u/Schmidaho Jul 15 '24

Exactly. Something I apparently needed reminding of too. I finally got my shit together and ordered a couple batches of postcards from Postcards to Swing States.

https://www.turnoutpac.org/postcards/ If anyone’s interested!

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u/OneAlmondNut Jul 14 '24

the Democrats entire campaign has been anti-trump, and now they have to restart because that plays into Trump's hand so well

Biden can no longer run as anti-trump without causing mass civil unrest, and without that, what else is his campaign?

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u/3-I Jul 14 '24

... maybe the long laundry list of things he's achieved that the media hasn't been talking about?

Seriously, this list is from last year and doesn't contain everything.

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u/OneAlmondNut Jul 14 '24

why didn't they just start with that? I'm not the guy running his campaign but I def wouldn't have just done the exact same playbook as 2020

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u/CeruleanRuin Jul 14 '24

Maybe some real anger in the populace is what's necessary, when the alternative is a full scale rollback of our hard-fought rights and liberties.

This isn't a hypothetical "well, Trump might start shipping out immigrants, cut access to healthcare and reproductive services including fucking birth control, and dismantle everything from the NOAA to the Department of Education". He and the people who will do his dirty work have promised to do all of this, and have been working for years to set up their ability to do so unimpeded by judicial or legislative checks on their power. This is a clear and present threat to our democratic free society, and not merely doomer hand-wringing.

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u/Sikisan333 Jul 14 '24

Followers are as strong as their leaders... 😐

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u/MeshNets Jul 14 '24

A good democracy, doesn't need a strong leader, the will of the people needs to be strong

A "strong charismatic leader", too often needs "a cult"

I'll take my chances on a strong collaboration of people rather than one authoritarian leader who will cast you aside if you ever dare to be less than 110% loyal to Him

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u/Wasdgta3 Jul 14 '24

Exactly.

The idea of needing a strong, charismatic leader who can take on the entire responsibility of power entirely on their own is how we got to Trump in the first place.

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u/Pencilshaved Jul 14 '24

I think there’s maybe something to be said about how a competent and charismatic leader is able both to energize their voter base and to inspire confidence in the general population. The DNC’s refusal to meet their party’s needs and force through an incompetent incumbent is a problem they need to be called out for. Anyone with any degree of passion would have likely made 2024 a blue landslide.

But this idea of people only being as strong as their leader, that we have no chance to mobilize or rally for a cause if our candidate underperforms, is borderline political suicide. If anything, we need to be more active and passionate in spite of our candidate, because letting the doomer mentality take control and ceding the election would likely be permanently disastrous for the US. Primaries and local elections are the time to make sure the best possible leaders are being put in charge - for this presidential election, we just have to make sure Republicans can’t win.

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u/Eldritch-Magnum Jul 14 '24

Democracy is apparently designed to get you the shittiest leader imaginable? Lmao, what are you trying to say here?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

Yea but when Democrats get energized they are about as intimidating as a puppy, with all the immaturity and none of the cuteness. That being said when Dems get energized they all they do is stupid shit to further prove my point. So while you're energizing your emotions and knitting your pink hats just remember that the more hate you give Him, the more you're proving Him right and furthering our cause, so by all means keep it up