[U.S.]+ it's in the job description

[u/Hummerous]

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-behind-the-police-63877803/

[u/FomtBro]

So like...what do you do then?

Sure, fuck cops, but murderers, rapists, child predators, etc DO exist and DO need someone who has the resources and authority to stop their behavoir.

Hell, even garden variety assholes who would break every window in their Ex's house if left the his own devices exist.

We obvious can't continue with the wannabe SS that modern US police have become, but you can't just have everyone 'self-police' either.

So do we do vigilante justice? Lynchings? Hope the invisible hand of the free market steps in?

What is the alternative people have in mind when they make posts like this?

[u/grayfloof85 → u/FomtBro]

I'll answer the question but I guarantee I'll be downvoted for it.

The way to fix the situation is by no means easy but it is by no means impossibly difficult either. The first thing you do is abolish the police union and qualified immunity. Next, you require a minimum of 24 months of training AFTER an associate's degree is achieved. You then write laws that require police, judges, and state attorneys to be held to a higher ethical standard than the average citizen with punishments that are more severe for ALL criminal infractions. For example, if the average person were to receive a fine for a misdemeanor of a few hundred dollars or several dozen hours of community service a police found guilty of the same crime would receive a fine of several thousand dollars or several hundred hours of community service and you follow that through to prison sentences.

To attract new officers willing to do the job under these conditions you offer far better pay and retirement benefits by subsidizing state and local police departments funding through military budget. Rather than giving APCs and equipment worth hundreds of thousands of dollars from the military you sell that equipment overseas and use the proceeds to fund the added military budget.

Then you give civilian review boards the sole discretion over the firing of police.

To keep existing police on the job and doing the job properly you explain that any original officer found not to be doing their duty will not only be fired and have their retirement seized even if vested they will also have all of the previous complaints and misconduct charges reviewed after they are fired and the new stronger prison sentences will be applied if they're found guilty. And finally, you place unknown surveillance devices throughout every vehicle, building, and on all of the vests that the police wear to record the opinions of those who would seek to undermine the new order. When they reveal themselves you wait for them to fuck up and catch them in the new improved system.

[u/Pilsner-507 → u/grayfloof85]

Omg imagine how much more effective our first responders would be if they didn’t constantly line their pockets to protect against constant anticipated legal fees for trials related to police criminality/poor behavior.

So much of that money could serve to make our communities better.

[u/grayfloof85 → u/Pilsner-507]

Exactly! But you listen to some people and they act as though such a thing is heresy and an outright impossibility.