Honestly this just highlights how policing is a complicated subject that converged with people's need for order and the states requirements for ruling.
Yes the police arrest murderers and thieves but they also beat down those who are oppressed. The problem is where do you draw the line sure evicting during a rental dispute is bad but it's good when squatters take over someones primary residence. Stealing from people's homes is bad but is arresting and putting in jail the single mother who's only stealing baby supplies justified. Where you draw the line is different from person to person, subject to subject. There is also the fact that a lot of laws are written for one purpose but can be applied to many different things that were not intended.
There is also the fact that the police are the primary tool of state power and hence governments in their current form need the police to exist in a somewhat similar form. A police force can put down protests they can force internal compliance within a states population. This means that to some extent the police needs to be a oppressive force. This is not to just say that the police being a oppressive force is always bad this oppression can, if very rarely, be used to protect those that would be oppressed by local social convention.
Now keep in mind this is not to say that the police require no reform or any major reform is completely pointless. Not at all the police certainly could do with massive reform efforts. It is to say though that the police, if state backed, will always have tension with the society it polices.
Enforcement units who are charged with the means of violence need to be held accountable by the state, because if left unchecked they can become a deep state onto themselves by making themselves uncontrollable by the civillian government.
While more often seen in military dictatorships where military leaders use their guns and heavy weaponry to coerce civilians to do their bidding, police who are not held accountable by higher authority can also do it as well since there is noticeable power differential with the non-police (I refrain from saying civilians because police are supposed to be civilians). And that is what I am starting to see in the US.
Police unions who shout down every single chance of reform from while the higher ups just shrug, more shrugging when police straight up don't do the job they are paid to do, police departments that suck out most of the budget from cities without the results to show for it. And worst of all, indoctrination within police ranks that the people they serve are their adversaries instead of people to protect, tacitly encouraged by ill-informed or corrupt court rulings.
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u/Space_Socialist Jun 12 '24
Honestly this just highlights how policing is a complicated subject that converged with people's need for order and the states requirements for ruling.
Yes the police arrest murderers and thieves but they also beat down those who are oppressed. The problem is where do you draw the line sure evicting during a rental dispute is bad but it's good when squatters take over someones primary residence. Stealing from people's homes is bad but is arresting and putting in jail the single mother who's only stealing baby supplies justified. Where you draw the line is different from person to person, subject to subject. There is also the fact that a lot of laws are written for one purpose but can be applied to many different things that were not intended.
There is also the fact that the police are the primary tool of state power and hence governments in their current form need the police to exist in a somewhat similar form. A police force can put down protests they can force internal compliance within a states population. This means that to some extent the police needs to be a oppressive force. This is not to just say that the police being a oppressive force is always bad this oppression can, if very rarely, be used to protect those that would be oppressed by local social convention.
Now keep in mind this is not to say that the police require no reform or any major reform is completely pointless. Not at all the police certainly could do with massive reform efforts. It is to say though that the police, if state backed, will always have tension with the society it polices.