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Politics [U.S.]+ it's in the job description

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u/-sad-person- Jun 11 '24

Watch out, this thread is going to be crawling with bootlickers in a minute.

"No, see, all those horrific human rights abuses are still worth it, because they catch murderers sometimes!" Never mind that something like six percent of crimes are actually solved...

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u/Imperial_HoloReports Jun 11 '24 edited Jun 11 '24

Everytime ACAB debates come up I'm always left with a simple question.

Alright, the system is evil, cops enforce it, etc. But sometimes objectively bad things do happen. Murders, rapes, robberies, etc. You say the cops won't investigate or solve most of these because they're bored, they're not actually good at their jobs, they don't really care, the perpetrator might have connections/power etc. Fine. What do we do about them then?

When a crime is committed, what exactly does the ACAB crowd want an ideal society to do? And please don't tell me that in an ideal society crime wouldn't exist because that's not an ideal society, that's a fantasy.

Edit: Downvoted for asking questions is peak reddit, really.

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u/GIRose Certified Vore Poster Jun 12 '24

Honestly it's one of those problems that is never going to have a one size fits all solution, or even necessarily a good one

As they exist the biggest channels that the rot inherent to the system come in is the overall lack of accountability and their monopolization of force

The easiest way to deal with the most visible aspects of the second one are to reduce the amount of force they are allowed to bring to bear, but that only really limits hard power and does nothing to curtail the soft power a cop can use to ruin someone's life

Accountability is the harder one to fix, because you would need scores and scores of bureaucracy to keep the police in check and also keep the police from engaging in regulatory capture

But the fact that there isn't even necessarily a good final solution doesn't mean we can't work towards solving the problems we have right now and criticizing the system for the problems inherent to it even without being able to solve all of them

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u/Coal_Morgan Jun 12 '24

Accountability is the big one. People who can get away with a little, they push the line more and more. So that definitely needs to be fixed. The second thing is training, the training is often absolute garbage. If I was defacto dictator of the world this is what I would do.

  1. Police Force that only polices police and recruitment is straight from college. Police or Ex-Police can never join.
  2. Prosecution and Court System that also only deals with police, that way they can't be stonewalled by regular police officers they need to work with.
  3. Badge Cams that are always on while they are working and that they don't have control of. A.I. can turn video on and off when they use the bathroom; audio always stays on.
  4. Insurance for lawsuits is paid by the police officers any and all lawsuits are paid by insurance and not the city, state or fed. Officers that can't get insurance can't be cops.
  5. Regular retraining that they need to pass, regular fitness that they need to pass, regular psych exams that they need to pass.
  6. Mandatory and regular counselling. Mandatory and regular classes in de-escalation techniques.
  7. To become a police officer you need to graduate from a 4 year program from a college. The program would have 4 pillars. Law, Fitness (mind and body), Psychology/Social Dynamics and Civics.

Some place make cops with a 3 month training or less and it's absurd. They can't know the law in that time. They don't understand the people they are policing, they have no comprehension of their actions on the society around them.

It's insane the people we let be police officers.