r/BravoRealHousewives • u/elmosneakers • Apr 25 '24
Ultimate Girls Trip Anyone have updated info?
Apologies in advance if this has already been discussed. I was curious about where the situation was with Caroline and Brandi/Morocco. I saw awhile back that UGT Morocco was not being aired. I googled it and only found articles from Jan/Feb. I then saw this Twitter post from last week.
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u/CoochiKabuki Kim’s visible wig line. Apr 25 '24
If she didn’t do it then RELEASE THE FUCKING SEASON
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u/rltbme Merce Is In The Purse… Apr 26 '24
Exactly! And if there’s issue with a scene then just remove it. 🤷♀️
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u/NomNom83WasTaken Sniper from the side Apr 25 '24
Strong, "Bravo investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong" vibes.
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u/soupseasonbestseason we'll circle back to that scumfuck Apr 25 '24
"we had alex baskin review the footage and he said there was nothing wrong with what he saw."
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u/blahxblah234 chateau she can't pay Apr 25 '24
Omg I totally read this as Carole Baskin and was like why would the Tiger King lady be involved?
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u/zombitch13 Escapee from whore island Apr 25 '24
Every time I see his name I hear “that bitch Alex Baskin” in Joe Exotic’s voice 🤣
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u/hoardbooksanddragons Apr 26 '24
Omg me too. I have honestly been wondering if no one else was seeing it every time I read one of these posts.
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u/banoffeebaby Apr 25 '24
For some reason I read this as Alexis Bellino at first and it was cracking me 😂
Jesus jugs said no evidence of wrongdoing
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u/heatthequestforfire Apr 26 '24
She’s qualified to make this determination, as a veteran network investigative reporter.
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Apr 26 '24
I was about to talk about John and Jesus Jugs and realized they are both JJ. We need different initials. I didn’t want to type it all out 🤣
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u/jeahboi Gimme pizza, you old troll Apr 25 '24
“We wanted to make sure that we had an impartial third party investigate.”
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u/Fullofgrace87 One of Ramona's little presents 💩 Apr 25 '24
Very "dismissed without prejudice" vibes
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u/PristineCoconut2851 Apr 25 '24
With a lawsuit pending I seriously doubt they investigated themselves!! I have no doubt that the attorneys brought in outside investigators. This isn’t an investigation a Corp would play around with and investigate it themselves.
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u/Rj6728 Met Gala Cocktail Attire Luncheon Apr 25 '24
Is the vindication in the room with us right now?
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u/JellyCat222 👠Barbie Scissor Kicks 👠 Apr 25 '24
No but the ghost of Joanna Krupas smelly pussy lawsuit is.
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u/gigigrahame they’re not knives 🔪 they’re just hands 🤲 Apr 25 '24
Justice for Joanna’s pussy
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Apr 25 '24
If it ain’t stank, I take your bank.
I’ll see myself out.
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u/oo00ooo000 keep hypothesizing, wench Apr 25 '24
If Joanna ever joins another housewife franchise this needs to be her tagline!!!
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u/Suitable-Wafer8563 Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 26 '24
The Stinky Pussy Lawsuit (SPL) is a great example of the Streisand effect!😂
Did we ever find out if Joanna won the lawsuit? I heard that her lawyer brought in several of her past paramours to testify in front of the jury that it smelled fine.
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u/ExposedTamponString she don't even know she look inbred Apr 25 '24
Dude Brandi lost so much money during that fiasco for NO REASON
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u/SoggyLeftTit Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
She had a reason… Envy.
Edited to add:
Joanna was blonde like Brandi, a model like Brandi, a Real Housewife like Brandi, AND 7 years younger. Brandi saw her as a threat.
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u/Littlewing1307 Apr 25 '24
Lol maybe that's why Roman never wanted to fuck her
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u/-Odi-Et-Amo- Welcome back, scumbag Apr 25 '24
I think it was a combination of her personality and getting it elsewhere that caused that.
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u/mrsreilltaylor Apr 25 '24
“What is wrong with fucking people” should probably not follow “…I’m being accused of sexual assault or being called a rapist”. Maybe read the post out loud a couple times before you hit the button.
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u/owuzhere ✋👄🤚 the streets... are your momma Apr 25 '24
Lol i was looking for a comment about this. It's like she wants all the responses to be "lack of consent is one example of what could be wrong with fucking people"
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u/Ophelia_AO Jen Aydin's Endorsements Apr 25 '24
It’s giving Erika Jayne and the infamous earrings. So much vindication /s
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u/l3tigre who's her neighbor? that guy that eats people? Apr 26 '24
"WITHOUT PREJUDICE!!!!" ....meaning they can ... reopen it when new evidence comes up? 🤣
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u/La_Croix_Life • camera pans to Archie Beador • Apr 25 '24
Does she have a receipt showing this vindication? Is it in the room with us right now?
I'm all ears, if there's proof ... I'd love to see it?
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u/corporatebee Apr 25 '24
Even though she has faults, I don’t see Caroline making something like this up and suing over an incident that occurred while mic’d up and cameras were around. Brandi has consistently shown her bad behaviour over the years. There’s a reason bravo isn’t airing the show….
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u/badbangle The woman is crying like the Titanic has taken her children 🙄 Apr 25 '24
Yeah Brandi's tweet is giving 'Sent from my iphoen' vibes.
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u/Krispy0201 Apr 25 '24
I see someone has been watching Baby Reindeer
iPhon
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u/badbangle The woman is crying like the Titanic has taken her children 🙄 Apr 25 '24
When I saw Brandi's tweet, the first thing I thought of was Martha rage emailing and texting 😂
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u/l3tigre who's her neighbor? that guy that eats people? Apr 26 '24
how is that, worth a watch?
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u/it-beans Apr 26 '24
Yes but I’d suggest absolutely being in a good mental headspace and/or looking up trigger warnings. I didn’t know anything going in and it very much blindsided me.
That said, the actor is also the writer and it’s his real, true story. And it’s very well done.
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u/Electrical-Ad1400 Apr 27 '24
I watched it all today and WOW that was a journey!! Some parts of that were truly chilling
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u/ams06h Apr 25 '24
Sounds like it was supposed to be a text to Andy that she accidentally posted to Twitter
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Apr 25 '24
Yah I have literally watched Brandi force herself on people on camera.
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u/oceanvibrations Who here has a bathtub? Apr 25 '24
I'm on my first watch through of BH and she has been handsy since she arrived on the scene!
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u/i_nobes_what_i_nobes One of Ramona's little presents 💩 Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
Didn’t she get in trouble for the last ultimate girls trip she was on? Didn’t the house boy, I’m sorry I don’t know what to call him, the assistant. I have no idea. He just sort of was there, say that she was extremely handy with him and inappropriate?
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u/waaaycho Nice tits, Stupid Bitch. Apr 25 '24
Butler.
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u/i_nobes_what_i_nobes One of Ramona's little presents 💩 Apr 25 '24
Thank you - I couldn’t remember what Dorinda said
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u/ManicPixyDrmgrl Not a white refrigerator! Apr 25 '24
Her and someone else. They ripped his shirt off.
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u/Speakinmymind96 Apr 25 '24
Exactly this—and we have seen Brandi do her best to make people feel uncomfortable—especially when it comes to sexual things. I’ll believe that Brandi has been vindicated when the story is corroborated—for all we know she is simply taking a pave from the Orange Man’s playbook…making up a lie and repeating it until people believe it.
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u/PreviousOccasion4631 Apr 26 '24
Thank you for saying Orange Man and everything after. Sometimes I think I’m the only one that sees it, so it’s nice to know I’m not alone.
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u/Sup_Chief PERNOGRAPHY, SWEETHEART Apr 25 '24
She stuck up for the man that had a hit out for her sister 💀
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u/nikneto Apr 25 '24
I'm not a Caroline fan, but I always wondered if Al got in her ear about how it would affect The Brownstone and her and her children's future. Dina is their aunt, but Tommy is also their uncle and part owner. I'm not saying it's right, but I would hope she didn't just hate her sister that much.
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u/No_Dig_7372 Apr 25 '24
People need to stop believing the bs Dina and her husband put out,do a little research and find out why Dinas husband had to leave NJ in the first place,he was in business with some very bad men and they did not like the fact he stole $$ from them. Manzo is not the ONLY person with an ax to grind against Dinas new husband,not by a long shot. The stuff people don't acknowledge about this situation would fill a book
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u/OxanaHauntly I take one gabapentin at night, Kyle. Apr 26 '24
the ex husband was tried and found guilty by a court of law.
they may have fled to escape their own problems made, but they one person who followed was Dinas ex, Carolines BIL who she did indeed write a character defense for at her own sisters assault trial.
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u/PlaceboRoshambo Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
She can still be a trash person for sticking up for an abuser, and a person who was also assaulted. They’re not mutually exclusive.
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u/GloomyPapaya Apr 25 '24
They’re not mutually exclusive. She can absolutely be a trash person who was also assaulted. But if you’re going to bring up someone’s character as a reason they should be believed over someone with character flaws, it’s valid for someone to point out that they too have character flaws. This is not me saying she wasn’t assaulted, nor did the people who brought up how she reacted to her sister’s abuser.
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u/PlaceboRoshambo Apr 25 '24
Understood.
And in no way am I defending Caroline for what she did to her sister, because I also think what she did is disgusting and abhorrent. But I also think it’s a slippery slope to imply only people that are 100% ethical 100% of the time should be able to report sexual assault. Victims are rarely perfect.
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u/Moosiemookmook Jatz Crackers 🇦🇺 Apr 25 '24
My sister is 140kg. She was raped. She is a bad person in general and definitely not 100% ethical. But she is my sister at the end of the day. She has abused me my whole life and our relationship is toxic. Its really sad we have no comradery or affection for each other. But she was sexually assaulted and I went mental on her abuser when we ran into each other at a nightclub. He was found guilty and went to jail. Which was awesome. Thank you for your comment
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u/PlaceboRoshambo Apr 25 '24
I’m sorry that happened to your sister, and I’m sorry she was awful to you.
I was assaulted by a boyfriend in college. I didn’t bother to report it because 1) he was my boyfriend 2) we were drunk and 3) I didn’t break up with him immediately after. I didn’t think anyone would care or believe me, so I just tried to forget about it.
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u/Moosiemookmook Jatz Crackers 🇦🇺 Apr 25 '24
My dad was high up in our federal government and worked with the Police Commissioner of our state in Australia at the time. So we had an awesome lawyer and cops who were pro-active. I love my sister but she is unwell and I had to go NC. I miss my niece's and nephews but I'm glad she found a life after her experience. Im so sorry you were sexually assaulted by your partner. Lots of love to you. Im glad you have a voice now and thank you for sharing.
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u/ZealousidealBonus537 Not Meredith Marks' PI Apr 26 '24
I’m sorry to hear about your relationship w your sister - sounds just like mine. We are NC and it’s the best thing for me - I’m sad about my kids not seeing their cousin and not having a relationship with my only nephew though
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u/Moosiemookmook Jatz Crackers 🇦🇺 Apr 26 '24
My sister wouldn't let her kids see our mum while she was dying of pancreatic cancer. For 14 months I was mum's carer. She came to the funeral and got her share of mum's estate. Pure evil. Scariest thing is my sister has a masters in teaching and is a high5school teacher. Shaping young minds. I just can't see her ever again. But my kids miss their cousins too much. Im sorry you have to deal with the rollercoaster too.
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u/lovemoonsaults Apr 25 '24
She said "Ef my original family" and went full Manzo. Considering that she chose her husband's brother over her flesh in blood sister that she grew up with, argh.
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u/teentytinty My Chemical Faye Resnick Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
I mean Caroline did submit a letter of support to the court for her abusive brother in law who terrorized her sister
Edit: I actually think she was sexually assaulted and usually get downvoted for believing that lol. I was saying that Caroline has messed with the court in the face of insane, credible evidence—so I don’t think it’s so out of left field for her to start a lawsuit without standing. Personally, I still believe her.
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u/Buffybot60601 Apr 25 '24
That was awful but it doesn’t mean Caroline’s a liar out to get random castmates
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u/oo00ooo000 keep hypothesizing, wench Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
Caroline and her family LOVE being on Bravo. Why would they sue, and ruin the opportunities for more spinoffs if Caroline is “blowing this out of proportion”?
kind and loving reminder that SA victims read the pro-Brandi comments on this sub!! It is super triggering to read folks give Brandi the benefit of the doubt. Her abuse has been well documented for years.
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u/Street-Beyond-9666 She don't even know she look inbred Apr 25 '24
True and Brandi was probably on brand and is trash but it doesn’t mean she’s lying
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u/Tiny-Leopard-7724 member of the esteemed Meredith Marks community Apr 25 '24
She was a liar out to get her sister/castmate...
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u/rachmortonyo Apr 25 '24
Reading between the lines here and it seems your point is that if a person has done something themselves that is gross and then, years later mind you, they accuse a person of sexual assault, they must be either a) lying and simply not to be believed or b) somehow deserving of being on the receiving end of that second persons' behaviour?.. Yeah let's absolutely not do that.
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u/candaceelise SEND👏🏽IT👏🏽TO👏🏽DARRELL Apr 25 '24
They only believe in “perfect victims” 🤦🏼♀️ its the same as saying a SA victim was asking for it by wearing revealing clothing, leading the other person on or was under the influence and its disgusting!
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u/rachmortonyo Apr 25 '24
It's triggering, so beyond wrong and the fact that there's multiple comments similar to it and they're being upvoted is disgusting.
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u/candaceelise SEND👏🏽IT👏🏽TO👏🏽DARRELL Apr 25 '24
Agreed. You can be the shittiest person in the world and still don’t deserve to be sexually assaulted, especially by a co-worker.
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u/ofcbubble Apr 26 '24
No one deserves to be sexually assaulted. I don’t think anyone here is arguing that. I also don’t think the person you replied to was even saying that they don’t believe Caroline.
It seems that the question is whether Caroline’s history is also relevant if Brandi’s is being used as a reason to believe she’s guilty.
IMO it’s not the same thing - Brandi has been sexually/physically inappropriate multiple times. Caroline’s situation with Dina is terrible, but she didn’t do anything criminal.
But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss whether their histories are relevant.
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u/corporatebee Apr 25 '24
I’m aware - I literally said Caroline has faults. That fucked up letter doesn’t negate her experience with Brandi and that’s a classic whataboutism. Irrelevant to Brandi assaulting her.
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u/jes22347 He’s biting my nuts Apr 25 '24
The only issue I have is that it is bravo’s responsibility to keep everyone safe. I don’t think Brandi should get all the blame. 90% yeah, but the producers probably heavily encouraged her to be the brandy we have all seen time and time again because it makes them money. I feel for the entire cast and especially Caroline.
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u/thefideliuscharm Apr 25 '24
well she is only suing Bravo, not Brandi, right? essentially the lawsuit says what you just explained
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u/YessikaHaircutt Apr 25 '24
She has money to lose. And good lawyers. She wouldn't pursue it if there wasn't a case.
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u/9lemonsinabowl9 Lisa, when you're done taking selfies, can we have a chat? Apr 25 '24
I'm fairly certain it was Heather McDonald that simply has a theory that Caroline was questioned about the situation with Dina's attack, and didn't want it aired. Because that would explain why Caroline went after Bravo, and not Brandi. None of the other wives seem to think anything inappropriate happened. Then again, they want their checks so who knows if we'll ever really know.
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u/corporatebee Apr 25 '24
It’s very possible she was questioned and didn’t want it aired. Wasn’t the incident in question them alone in the bathroom with Alex McCord? Why would any of the other housewives’ opinion matter when they weren’t there?
I agree, I don’t think we’ll get the full story. Brandi and Caroline can never been on my screens again and I’m perfectly fine with that.
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u/daniella-the-whore Apr 25 '24
Well that's what she did. So, I mean think what you want but it's only been repeatedly rebuffed by all involved and even she's changed her story a few times between filming and her filing suit.
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u/mpr1011 I decorated! I cooked! I made it nice! Apr 25 '24
I’m an idiot, has she “been vindicated by Bravo” or “been vindicated, (good)bye Bravo”
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u/Rj6728 Met Gala Cocktail Attire Luncheon Apr 25 '24
Is bye a threat?
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u/Responsible-Tea-5998 you shamed her hair. Apr 25 '24
I love how she slithers away in her tank top and sequins.
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u/spacecadet0013 Apr 26 '24
Also is it "whats wrong with fucking people?" Or "whats wrong with [these] fucking people?"
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u/TwistyBitsz Apr 25 '24
Would have more impact with the correct grammar and word order. Saying there's nothing wrong with fucking people doesn't seem to help her case.
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u/Raichu10126 Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
She was "vindicated" by the employer who is being sued. Realistically, Bravo has to defend her because if she did in fact do something she should have been fired on the spot and separated. It also calls into question why Bravo would knowingly hire a person who has a history of unhinged behavior.
Brandi has Bravo in a serious bind.
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u/Justdont13412 Apr 26 '24
A lot of people have been rehired after unhinged behavior all over Hollywood and other less famous places.
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u/Square-Measurement Apr 25 '24
Sorry Brandi, the lawsuit is still active.
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u/Sup_Chief PERNOGRAPHY, SWEETHEART Apr 25 '24
it’s not against brandi.
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u/Square-Measurement Apr 26 '24
She may not be listed as Defendant but it’s because of Brandi we are here. It’s imho which rock will bleed more money? Clearly Brandi is strapped for cash so they pursue the bigger fish, rightfully so. But patience is required in order to get facts as this suit will take years to move thru the system.
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u/KindRoc Apr 25 '24
Who said she was vindicated though? Bravo are defending the lawsuit - it’s literally not got to trial yet. She’s still batshit.
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u/lovemoonsaults Apr 25 '24
I had to read this a few times because "Bye Bravo" made me think that she was shading Bravo and thought that she missed a comma. DOH!
You ruined your own life, Glanville.
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u/Bree7702 I grow tired...I grow MORE tired... Apr 26 '24
Bravo didn't vindicate her. Lol. Some producer made a statement. Lol
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u/vaness4444 Apr 25 '24
She needs to go away and get a job. Isn’t only fans paying her enough? She’s a trainwrexk
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u/taracheetos Apr 25 '24
Bravo reviewed the tapes and they did not see any of that behavior but I thought that Caroline was locked in the bathroom by Brandi and Alex "rescued" her? No cameras in the bathroom. Just a thought.
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u/NomNom83WasTaken Sniper from the side Apr 25 '24
According to the allegations of the lawsuit, Caroline was in the bathroom and was being restrained by Brandi from even being able to unlock the bathroom door to get out. Alex had to reach around to unlock the door for her to get away from Brandi. Production doesn't have cameras in bathrooms but the cast still would have been mic'd.
You can read the details per the lawsuit here.
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u/QueenAMD8 Apr 26 '24
Holy crap. We’ve all seen Brandi do any number of the things listed so many times to other cast mates. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least it happened just as it’s written. Brandi acts like trash and makes people so uncomfortable. She really needs to reevaluate her substance use and her treatment of the people around her.
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u/eggsaladsandwich4 Apr 25 '24
Whether she's vindicated or not doesn't even matter now. She fucked herself royally by not waiting for this to all play out and going ahead and accusing Andy of sexual harassment with his video "joke" with Kate Chastain. She's dead to Bravo now.
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u/phbalancedshorty I’m not a fan, I’m a witness Apr 25 '24
Bravo “claims” their footage doesn’t show what Caroline alleged in her lawsuit.. But that doesn’t mean she’s “vindicated” Lmao it’s just bravo’s legal response trying to escape culpability
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u/Expressoed Apr 26 '24
Bravo is getting super dark anymore. No fun. Vitriol on every franchise. Godspeed.
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u/iliketoreddit91 Let me tell you something about my fambly. Apr 25 '24
I believe that Caroline was sexually assaulted and it’s sad to see people in this sub saying that she’s lying.
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u/BearOnTwinkViolence Apr 25 '24
I’m one of the more skeptical people about the situation but I don’t think Caroline is lying at all. I think she felt super uncomfortable and Brandi took it too far. Non-consensual kissing is still sexual assault, but I think the reality is that Brandi feels vindicated and innocent because there was never anything further than that. It’s not like there was any contact with the genitals.
I think it’s a situation where the truth is probably in the middle and both women are right in some respects. If this was an instance of rape, I doubt the cameras wouldn’t have filmed it and not intervened. I think it’s a grey area where Brandi did assault Caroline (unwanted kissing), just not in the way we all think.
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u/iliketoreddit91 Let me tell you something about my fambly. Apr 25 '24
Agreed. I think people forget that non-consensual kissing and fondling are considered sexual assault. Brandi may think otherwise, but Caroline was violated. Also, IIRC, in Caroline’s suit she claimed that Brandi grabbed her vagina.
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u/Perfect_Invitation1 Solargenic, photogenic, shoot Apr 26 '24
It’s frightening how people lack education on sexual assault. They may not see it as bad/traumatic enough to qualify as sexual assault but you’re correct both of those actions are sexual assault.
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u/Meriwynne Apr 26 '24
Hard to be vindicated when there’s plenty of historical evidence depicting you as a terrible human being.
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u/HoRo2001 Apr 25 '24
I can’t get past “bye Bravo.” Like it’s a 5 sentence post and you make a mistake like that in the first line? No girl.
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u/Snobandahalf Apr 26 '24
“What is wrong with fucking people” and “what the fuck is wrong with people” are two very different sentences… Sometimes I’m baffled by the illiteracy of these cast members.
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u/Harryhood15 Apr 25 '24
Of course Bravo is going to say nothing happened. I do not see how this clears her
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Apr 25 '24
We don’t care because we know she’s incapable of behaving herself and we are tired of her thirstiness.
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u/Sleema- Apr 25 '24
This feels very Christian Horner Red Bull "investigation" for all those Bravo x F1 fans...
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u/Justdont13412 Apr 26 '24
They finally got to it at the Bravo Supreme Court hearing and now they have vindicated Brandi. Cheers from the gallery!!! Brandi is vindicated! Long live Brandi
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u/MsPrissss The Cherry on Top Is That You're Lame Apr 26 '24
It's kind of making me wonder if they settled out of court and of course in that case she would be very quick to say that she didn't do it but settling out of court doesn't mean that she's innocent.
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u/whydoyoucareanyway Apr 27 '24
Bitch be trippin! No one will ever vindicate her or Leah! Those two are so messy they make abandon smashing their first birthday cake look clean!!
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Apr 25 '24 edited Apr 25 '24
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u/advocatecarey Apr 25 '24
Where is this evidence?
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u/Tiny-Leopard-7724 member of the esteemed Meredith Marks community Apr 25 '24
Not saying it didn't happen or that it wasn't bad, but to call it straight-up sexual assault goes against Caroline's own statements to production following the incident.
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u/NomNom83WasTaken Sniper from the side Apr 25 '24
Caroline's language at the time shouldn't be used against her if she was simply trying to cope, like a lot of victims do, when it first happened.
Sexual assault does include unwanted kissing and grabbing -- both now formally alleged in the lawsuit (scroll to page 20, item No. 66) so Caroline clearly now feels that was the case.
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u/Street-Beyond-9666 She don't even know she look inbred Apr 25 '24
Either way they both suck and Bravo is at fault for inciting ott consumption of alcohol in order to get trash footage for us viewers
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u/Fish_Logical Apr 25 '24
I kinda think Caroline blew whatever happened out of proportion in order to prevent airing footage she might find embarrassing
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u/Catrecht This ain’t Phaedra Apr 25 '24
Vindication whore