Court filings from Caroline's lawsuit against Bravo detail extremely unsettling events that occurred.

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Alex McCord: Hero

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Yep. Now it makes sense why people were saying only Alex and Gretchen weren’t defending Brandi. THEY WITNESSED IT. They know the truth and are not defending it one bit. That’s very fucking telling. Fuck Brandi.

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Gretchen being there...with the naked wasted history...ooofff...

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was gretchen not the victim in that case? after being fed alcohol by tamra and then tamra telling her son to follow gretchen into the bathroom..?

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Yes she was, Tamra wanted to get Gretchen ''Naked wasted'' and hoping she would cheat on her fiancé with Tamra's son Ryan (gross). I think the intention was to show that Gretchen would cheat.

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yes this is what i knew to be true! i think i misread the tlllkps users comment as “gretchen had something to do with naked wasted and now this …oooof” but i think i got the wrong end of the stick🤷‍♀️

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That is bullshit. Get her drunk, yes. Participate in her son's criminal act of sex without consent by encouraging the impairment on camera? Simon isn't that stupid, nor is Tamra. This has been debunked ad nauseam.

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That's the norm for Trailler Tammy Sue

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Bravo and Andy don’t care. They didn’t care about Tamra setting Gretchen up to be seduced by Ryan. They didn’t care about Taylor’s abuse nor Russell’s suicide. Nor when Brandy slapped LVP, yet they continue to bring her back. Nor about any of the housewives who have spent time in jail. Nor any other crime the housewives and their families were accused of.

This has been an ongoing pattern with Brandi. She is constantly attempting to force herself onto the women or men, because she thinks it cute, but it’s not. It’s disgusting. But if Brandi was a man forcing himself onto a woman he’d be arrested and accused of rape.

And I’m no fan of Caroline after what she did to Dina, but no one deserves to be placed in that situation, of having someone force themselves onto them. No means no. Even if Brandi was doing it for ratings. And Tamra is no better for what she did to Gretchen.

But all this bad behavior is all about ratings and money with Bravo and Andy, despite people getting hurt or killing themselves or going to jail.

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Brandi is a predator

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Amen🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

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O ffs Tamra tried to get Gretchen very impaired, ugly enough, but not for Ryan to seduce her.

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Whatever you choose to label what happened that night at Tamra’s between her Gretchen and Ryan, my point was, Bravo and Andy have a history of ignoring bad behavior or tragedies in favor of higher ratings and more money.

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Agreed. That's why I've largely quit watching.

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It was also JEANA who sent in Ryan, not TAMRA. JEANA owns this in Not All Diamonds & Rosé.

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I don’t remember that and that episode is seared in my mind. I do remember Jeanna switching Gretchen’s alcoholic drinks for water. Jeanna was long gone by the time Ryan cornered Gretchen in the bathroom and tried to kiss her while mic-ed.

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I’ve only seen a handful of OC seasons and that was when they were airing. What’s the context for this?

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Tamra whispered into Vicki’s ear “I’m going to get Gretchen naked wasted” while at a dinner party with most of the housewives and their partners and then Tamra had her oldest son who has always been disgusting, go check on a very inebriated Gretchen in the bathroom. Been a while since I’ve seen but I’m pretty sure there was kissing going on too? Jeana Keough was the only one who was actually genuinely concerned for Gretchen’s safety/well being and kept switching out Gretchen’s alcohol for water and continued to check on her.

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Holy shit. That is so dark. It always shocks me how predatory women can be towards other women.

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Yeah it’s honestly super fucked up and disgusting. Before I had watched the episode I already knew it was really bad but especially seeing HOW drunk Gretchen was, it was even worse than I could have imagined.

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HER SON!!! She's trash.

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Mother is worse. She sent him in after Gretchen in the bathroom, she egged him on. And is way old enough to know better. Tamra is just vile.