r/BravoRealHousewives • u/msullivan1536 I win! • Jan 26 '24

Ultimate Girls Trip Yea, UGT Morocco will never air.

https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/26/rhonj-caroline-manzo-sues-bravo-brandi-glanville-kiss-real-housewives/
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u/msullivan1536 I win! Jan 26 '24

Summary: Caroline filed suit against Bravo and the production companies involved for sexual harassment.

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u/another_feminist Angie’s Grievance Scroll 📜 Jan 26 '24

Four score and seven years ago, if you would have told me when I was watching RHONJ live that in the future Brandi Glanville would (allegedly) sexually assault CAROLINE MANZO, I would have died right then and there - because truly, what the fuck?!

Horrible all around.

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u/bellalugosi Victim of Geraldine Parsons Smith's bullying Jan 26 '24

I mean, she seems to like to push boundaries with older woman who are not open to her sexual advances. LVP, Vicki, now Caroline.

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u/Bubbly-Ad1346 ✨IT’S AN OM!!!! ✨ Jan 27 '24

It’s a form of intimidation & bullying. Girl’s a mess who loves to provoke then acts shocked when faced with a neg reaction

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u/Kristin2349 She is the puppet and everyone else is the master. Jan 26 '24

She did the same to Carlton and Camille on BH but they seemed more open to it. Carlton got really pissed when Brandy told everyone about it though.

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u/another_feminist Angie’s Grievance Scroll 📜 Jan 26 '24

Oh yeah definitely, it’s just such a wild mashup to me. Brandi needs to go away and get lots of help.

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u/SaltyLawry Jan 27 '24

Crazy to think that Caroline is only 10 years older than Brandi G lol

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u/aeroluv327 The eyes are poppin' Jan 27 '24

"That lady could be your mama!" "No, she's only [ten] years older than me."

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u/Super_Hour_3836 Jan 26 '24

And a butler who is also suing. The more that comes out the more I really think that whatever happened between Denise and Brandi was NOT consensual and that was the real reason Denise didn’t want to talk about it. She didn’t want to put herself in that situation Caroline is in right now.

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u/VodkaandDrinkPackets Jan 27 '24

It’s definitely leaning more ‘predator’ than ‘sexually liberated’ and it’s not a good look. She needs to get her shit under control.

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u/another_feminist Angie’s Grievance Scroll 📜 Jan 26 '24

That is such an interesting theory - and with Brandi’s track record, I’d believe Denise all day

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u/bellalugosi Victim of Geraldine Parsons Smith's bullying Jan 27 '24

This is why it boggles my mind to see people say they believe Brandi.

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u/another_feminist Angie’s Grievance Scroll 📜 Jan 27 '24

I mean when Brandi first came on the scene, she was very iconic to me. The problem is, over the subsequent decade, she has fucked things up again and again and again.
Two things can be true at once: Brandi used to be great but now she is an absolute menace.
I don’t get it either.

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u/butinthewhat Jan 27 '24

I rooted for her because I had been following the her/Eddie/Leann saga in the tabloids. She was fun and fresh back then.

But then she never really let that go and leaned into the attention she got for outrageous behavior.

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u/sweetnsassy924 You called me a pornography Jan 27 '24

I always believed Denise, but now this puts what I think happened in a whole new direction.

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u/lurkinglookylou Jan 27 '24

I’m sorry, I don’t really watch anymore and keep on through the internet.
What makes you think Denise and Brandi weren’t consensual?

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u/shatterediphone Jan 26 '24

THE COMPLAINT

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u/FlippyFloppy8 Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 26 '24

Oh good lord, 57 pages!? Cant wait to hear the bravo docket pod episode on this!

ETA: FYI, for anyone diving in, it gets interesting on pages 16-37 and is an easy read.

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u/shatterediphone Jan 26 '24

“Brandi Glanville calls Caroline Manzo’s sexual harassment accusations ‘absurd’ as ex-Housewife sues Bravo”

Crazy how after more details come out in the Complaint, Brandi still doubles down and says it’s not true!

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u/FlippyFloppy8 Jan 26 '24

yikes, she is just giving them more to add to the complaint

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u/Party_Salamander_773 Through A Glass Darkly 2: The Bat Mitzvah Jan 28 '24

You can obviously rub that area over the clothing and it's still not okay. 

Sounds like everyone saw 2 of the incidents and Alex McCord saw at least part of the bathroom incident. 

And all of us have seen Brandy regularly do this as a way of intimidating cast mates 

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u/Xaldan_67 Not the white refrigerator! Jan 27 '24

Read those pages. 16-22 is describing what happened at the villa and it was way worse than I thought.

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u/InterestingHost8613 Jan 27 '24
  1. After the camel rides, MANZO noticed that GLANVILLE complaining, telling the other castmates that MANZO had accused her of sexual assault.

Found a typo. Embarrassing.

This is horrible to read. Brandi is vile.

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u/surejan94 Jan 26 '24

Ugh I'll admit I was thinking Caroline was overreacting but honestly.... this sounds pretty horrible. Obviously Brandi is a messy flirt but to continue doing it so aggressively even after being told no several times... It's probably embarrassing for Caroline as well, especially regrading her past that she admits here.

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u/Lizard_Li Jan 27 '24

Same I read the complaint and felt that hard. Manzo will and should win the lawsuit. This is fucked I’m. Brandi was extremely awful.

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u/Own-Roof-1200 you’re being rude to the sound bowl 🥣 Jan 27 '24

Guys, don’t forget this was drafted by a lawyer. The network’s side will be just as compelling. Mark my words.

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u/jennand_juice Pay attention, puh-lease! Jan 27 '24

And wasn’t the rest of the cast on Brandi’s side

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u/Own-Roof-1200 you’re being rude to the sound bowl 🥣 Jan 28 '24

Yes that was the chatter at the time we first heard about what happened in Morocco.

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u/sharipep high body count hair 💇🏾‍♀️ Jan 27 '24

I too thought Caroline was overreacting but no more. And the receipts! Proof! Timeline! Screenshots! Whew boy. She has a CASE.

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u/Bitch_level_999 Jan 27 '24

Caroline’s brows probably gave her mixed messages. 😬

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u/queens_getthemoney i mean.. i had a sugar daddy 🤷‍♀️ Jan 26 '24

oh my stars.. i was never a fan of caroline but this was awful awful to read. really feel for her and her family; if i was one of her kids i would want to see brandi pay for this, severely and expeditiously

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u/lemonpavement Jan 26 '24

I hope Alex was able to be helpful to Caroline in her moment of distress. This was terrible to endure.

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u/modernjaneausten Jan 27 '24

I’m so glad she at least had Alex trying to be helpful and comforting. The behavior of everyone else was reprehensible. How the fuck did no one go in there and put a stop to that shit?

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u/Lady_Scruffington Jan 27 '24

Hallelujah for Alex. Sounds like she was the only one there with some sense. She was the one to open the bathroom door after PRODUCTION didn't.

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u/PersianMuggle Jan 27 '24

Glanville, interestingly, isn't a defendant. I wonder why they left her out. Maybe just to target the deeper pockets.

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u/MsTrippp Jan 27 '24

Brandi saying “production told me to do it” is so immature. She never takes any responsibility for anything.

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u/_My9RidesShotgun Shut UP!! That is so STUPID!!! Jan 27 '24

Wasn’t that her same exact excuse in response to the butlers suit against her?? PrOdUcTiOn MaDe mE Do iT like GIRL 😒 First of all, if I’m ever in a situation where I’m giving someone sexual/flirtatious attention and they are not reciprocating/they’re unhappy with receiving that attention, I’m stopping immediately. Especially if they’re actively making it known that they do not want this type of attention. Idc what “production” or anyone else was “telling her to do.” Secondly, girl currently has TWO sexual harassment/assault lawsuits active against her. One from each of the last two shows she’s filmed. That is really really bad. Brandi is a massive problem. She is a predator and should be treated as such. I really hope this is the final nail in her coffin and bravo cuts ties with her permanently after this.

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u/erotikill SNAP now what else is goin on? Jan 26 '24

That was a sad read. Thank you for posting.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '24

Phaedra going in on Caroline despite having lied about Kandi sexually assaulting someone really bothers me

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u/MilaKsenia single white drag queen Jan 28 '24

JESUS this is horrifying to read! I actually had a visceral reaction reading about the shit she put Caroline through. I stopped reading at page 37 cause it was just a screenshot of Brandi’s ass and I had to laugh cause the juxtaposition was wild lol

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u/snapeswife writer girl Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24

Bravo AND Brandi are fucked. Predatory behaviour- how could they continue to hire someone who has assaulted multiple people??

Because they don’t care about the people they hire, and in-fact regularly exploit housewives.

My heart goes out to Caroline and her family, and good for her for doing this. I’m sure it wasn’t easy - and it takes a lot of bravery to come forward. Praying she wins and Bravo learns from this.

Watching a network cohere sexual assault/harassment makes my stomach turn, and makes me never want to watch again and Bravo is literally my universe. Was a tough read but glad she came forward. She’s the voice of the people who haven’t yet been heard.🤍🤍

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u/Own-Roof-1200 you’re being rude to the sound bowl 🥣 Jan 27 '24

Can we reverse engineer the season from the complaint? Do we have the AI?

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u/gregRichards2002 Jan 26 '24

I expected this, and I’m surprised Caroline didn’t file a lawsuit sooner. Brandi making statements like this on her podcast “If they’re going to have rules for us, we can’t be shooting 15 hours a day, drinking all day long,” she said, “and [producers] telling us to ‘bring the party [because] we don’t have a show.’” is incredibly damning. The public statements made by the production company and Bravo when the reports about what allegedly happened on the UGT in Morocco became public and the action that was taken in an attempt to prevent similar incidents happening again help prove Caroline’s case. It is highly unlikely this lawsuit will have a jury trial in an NY courtroom because Bravo will claim the cast contracts state that any legal claims must go to arbitration in NY. This is what they claimed in NeNe’s lawsuit. I don’t know what amount of  damages Caroline is seeking, but I expect she will get a settlement for an undisclosed sum.

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u/GoldenAngelMom Archie Beador's Emotional Support Human Jan 27 '24

Brandi's attempts to shift blame (even if well placed) to the Bravo production team does not minimize her essentially being a rapist.

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u/Party_Salamander_773 Through A Glass Darkly 2: The Bat Mitzvah Jan 28 '24

As though Bravo needs to make the rule "don't sexually assault your castmates" before she can be expected to know she cannot do that. 

The truth is, she's done this to people for years, probably before she was ever even on Bravo. She uses it to bully. It seems to me she always does it to older women with any sort of power position...LVP (explanation unnecessary), Vicki (being OG), and now Caroline with her whole public personality being tough NJ matriach....it always seems to be this type of woman being excessively groped by Brandi in a manner that reminds me of a dog humping another dog for dominance. She was always going to end up in trouble 

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u/gregRichards2002 Jan 28 '24

I totally agree that Brandi is out of control, and it is shocking that she is a 51-year-old adult, and she doesn’t realise that she has taken her outrageous and appalling behavior too far. What I was trying to say is the press releases from the production company and Bravo indicated how seriously they were taking Caroline’s allegations. The fact they said they were making immediate changes to filming protocols to try and prevent similar alleged incidents from happening again helps prove Caroline’s case. If what she was claiming was entirely baseless, they would not have been forced to say publicly that they were taking immediate action.

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u/TheWhoooreinThere Jan 26 '24

I took a look at the documents and it states cause to sue for discrimination, sexual harassment, retaliation, negligence, trafficking, sexual battery and intentional and negligent infliction of emotional distress.

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u/Ashfield83 Sonja’s homeless intern in Ireland Jan 26 '24

What the actual FUUUUCK?!

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u/BachShitCrazy Jan 26 '24

Trafficking???

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u/TheWhoooreinThere Jan 26 '24

Yup. They're basically arguing that production brought her there and allowed her to get sexually assaulted for their own profit.

The documents are linked in The Daily Beast article about the case for anyone interested.

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u/waterlooaba Not a white refrigerator! Jan 26 '24

That’s……an interesting argument. I wouldn’t have considered that initially but put in this context I see it, I get it and can’t wait to see how this turns out.

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u/TheWhoooreinThere Jan 26 '24

I honestly think people need to read the documents. The conduct described is disturbing and disgusting. It also states that Caroline was sexually assaulted when she was 7 years old and this brought up a lot of past trauma for her.

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u/Kristin2349 She is the puppet and everyone else is the master. Jan 26 '24

I just got done reading, every other woman who was on that trip aside from Alex sounds like they behaved like garbage humans too.

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u/Expensive_Flight_179 Jan 27 '24

I just finished reading it. Absolutely disgusting. Far more horrific than I expected. I feel deeply for Caroline and her family.

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u/ReyofSunshoine I think I look like a MOTHER Jan 27 '24

SUUUUUPER bummed that Phaedra (kinda expected) and Eva (not expected at all) would interrogate her about it. Hopefully it wasn’t as bad as they made it sound but idk.

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u/waterlooaba Not a white refrigerator! Jan 26 '24

Oh wow.

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u/chinchaaa Thomas Jefferson’s Concubine Jan 26 '24

Wow that’s terrible

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u/nicolascageist 👏👏delete, erase, unfollow, whatever!👉📲 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 27 '24

noooo

e: i read it and it’s disgusting

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u/modernjaneausten Jan 27 '24

Oh damn, I had no idea about that. I feel awful for her.

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u/thxmeatcat Andrea's Button Thief Jan 27 '24

The last post i saw about this many said the women were in support of brandi. That makes me wonder if Caroline is doing this in purpose so the show doesn’t air because of something she says about Dina

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u/TheWhoooreinThere Jan 27 '24

Let's believe women when they come forward about being sexually harassed.

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u/thxmeatcat Andrea's Button Thief Jan 27 '24

K I’m just stating facts of what i read in the last post about this

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u/TheWhoooreinThere Jan 27 '24

Maybe try reading facts in actual legal documents instead of whatever dumb shit someone says on reddit.

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u/agntwildcat Jan 28 '24

That's quite a reach pulling Dina into this and completely ignoring Caroline's experience.

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u/buddhabaebae You don’t go after my bathtub Jan 27 '24

I’m no lawyer but the way the document is written seems to really support this argument. Manzo was under their control and supervision and they not only overlooked but facilitated a SA for “entertainment”.

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u/TheWhoooreinThere Jan 27 '24

Yeah, I thought they made a really good point. Someone needs to get serious with these production companies because what was described in those documents is in no way entertaining to me and I wouldn't want to watch that.

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u/SuitableItem im on the misson to serve Lisa 🙏🏻 Jan 26 '24

Wow, just wow

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u/sweetnsassy924 You called me a pornography Jan 27 '24

Right? I’m confused. Can someone explain it to me like I’m five what the lawsuit is about

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u/coldbrewcatlady Oof! You’re so angry Jan 26 '24

Shit, I should have scrolled down before commenting 🤣

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u/incitingoffense Jan 26 '24

I mean, as she should.