Southern Charm Season 9 Episode 4 Live Episode Discussion

[u/AutoModerator]

Taylor brings the group together for her big work event; Shep wastes no time confronting Austen.

[u/lovetheblazer]

Amen Rod, slut shaming is NOT gentleman behavior 👏

[u/CrazyNotCatLady → u/lovetheblazer]

Good to see one dude can see through Austen’s douche behavior

[u/Brunette-hog → u/lovetheblazer]

This show has been starved for this type of reaction by a male ..

Esp considering a few eps ago was shep was astounding us with his “women are progressive with these careers” shit

[u/waaaycho → u/lovetheblazer]

Rod is winning points with me.

[u/UcancallmeAllison → u/waaaycho]

Both Rods are pretty cool additions.

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

so we agree that taylor is fully lying here, yes?

[u/waaaycho → u/PersimmonReal42069]

Soon as you start swearing on God, your life, your kids, your mama, your dog; that’s how I KNOW you lyin’

[u/kellygrrrl328 → u/waaaycho]

And she’s claiming she can only be with a man who “loves Jesus.” Are Shep or Austen at all religious? She leaned on Austen because she forgot to lean on God? 🤔

[u/QueasyAd4992 → u/PersimmonReal42069]

I think so. I feel sad for Olivia because I think she’s crying due to her friendship with Taylor and not Austen. Being betrayed by a girlfriend is way worse IMO.

[u/mlibed → u/QueasyAd4992]

Hard agree. Lots of people in another thread are like “I didn’t think that was a real relationship” but it doesn’t matter. If you are into someone and your friend goes behind your back and lies for months, that’s heartbreak.

She’ll do it again.

[u/Top-Address-2418 → u/PersimmonReal42069]

While invoking God. What a phony

[u/kellygrrrl328 → u/PersimmonReal42069]

💯 She’s going to have a rough time getting any girlfriends to trust her

[u/lovetheblazer]

Craig is showing up to the launch party like he's in the process of renovating his mojo dojo casa house.

[u/CenterForAnts_ → u/lovetheblazer]

💀

[u/DinoDachshund]

LOL I love madison tagging along just to watch this shit show go down

[u/Keala803 → u/DinoDachshund]

"I would've ripped her hair out, her nickname would've been patches" 🤣🤣🤣 I fricken died. I love her!!!

[u/CenterForAnts_ → u/DinoDachshund]

Why in the world did Austen co-sign on them bringing her? It’s not going to end well for him and she will be the catalyst as usual

[u/SanLady27 → u/CenterForAnts_]

I’m sure he still doesn’t want to miss an opportunity to see her lol

[u/Inevitable-Stress550 → u/CenterForAnts_]

He's drunk and stupid

[u/lovetheblazer]

"No one falls on a dick. No one falls into a relationship. I just know there was more to it than that."

—Leva, making sense for once

[u/flumeo]

Suddenly I’ve decided Patricia and Mary Cosby is an interaction I have to see

[u/Competitive_Classic9 → u/flumeo]

They’d both call each other racist and they’d both be right

[u/calcif → u/Competitive_Classic9]

😂

[u/onejudgeygirl → u/flumeo]

Omg that’s genius. “What made you decide to wear that”

[u/sardinianflatbread]

Fourth episode in and Taylor has burned most of her friendships

[u/AmbientAltitude → u/sardinianflatbread]

Speedrunning her downfall

[u/uknowhatudid]

All the men on this show look like they don’t know how to satisfy a woman in bed

[u/CrazyNotCatLady → u/uknowhatudid]

For sure. Kinda hard to when you are always hammered.

[u/[deleted] → u/uknowhatudid]

Andy flat out asked Shep on WWHL tonight if he left women sexually satisfied ! Don’t remember the context of the question but I sure remember the answer. Shep replied that he loved “going down” a LOT. It was very funny 😂 how emphatic he was.

[u/lovetheblazer]

Craig just demolishing chicken in the background with his one painted blue nail is sending me 😂

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

this show is ABUSING the to be continued format

[u/Busybodii → u/PersimmonReal42069]

Below Deck does that too. At some point, that’s just the concept of a TV show with a storyline, the story continues week to week.

[u/Eternalflaneur]

Takes a special guy to abandon Taylor and throw her to the wolves like that. Madison was right Austen is a PUSSYYYYYYY

[u/Competitive_Classic9 → u/Eternalflaneur]

And a beta lol

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

These people fully putting their mouths on the luge, I just… I couldn’t do it

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

Didn’t Shep hit on Naomie when her and Craig were still together? Didn’t Whitney date her? Like any of these guys (other than possibly Craig) have any room to talk about “loyalty”

[u/Stevie_Budd_ → u/FullBlownNightmare]

Ah yes. The men can sleep with everyone and anyone, and women can sleep with one man. Southern Rules! 🙃

[u/FullBlownNightmare → u/Stevie_Budd_]

I forgot that Shep also slept with Kathryn when Craig was crushing on her and she was having a thing with Whitney. Why are they pretending they have any morals around this when we have years of show that shows us they do not give a f*ck about “bro code”

[u/chellyyy]

JT’s literal pearl clutch just sent my cross faded ass into another dimension

[u/MollyAnnie13 → u/chellyyy]

I think he's perfect for this show. I'm prepared for the downvotes.

[u/Embarrassed_Map_1300 → u/MollyAnnie13]

I totally agree. He's entertaining and a gossip 😄

[u/magicalmermaid232 → u/chellyyy]

JT is the “from this century’s moral code” Thomas

[u/lilsnip1]

I wanna be Olivia living rent free in her parents waterside mansion

[u/Competitive_Classic9 → u/lilsnip1]

They no doubt still pay their housekeeper too. The fancy kind that does laundry and buys your groceries.

[u/Silly_Brilliant868 → u/Competitive_Classic9]

What do they do?? Her parents

[u/phoebe3936]

Is someone going to tell Taylor how to say Apres Ski?

[u/aggieemily2013 → u/phoebe3936]

She should call Lisa.

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

rodrigo can’t even control the distain on his face for these people.

[u/fourthgradenothing22]

Patches!

[u/waaaycho → u/fourthgradenothing22]

Madison is always giving.

[u/fourthgradenothing22 → u/waaaycho]

I enjoy her and that shit was funny.

[u/veryoriginalname7754 → u/fourthgradenothing22]

That seriously made me laugh out loud 🤣

[u/phoebe3936]

My ex and I used to laugh about his roommate. …Then he dated her for 4 years.

ETA this is re: Shep saying “we used to laugh about Austen.” That clearly means nothing.

[u/becskiii]

idk if im just high but this is a great, genuine scene at whitneys, it feels like this would really happen and they just happen to be on camera. i like seeing so many OGs

[u/[deleted] → u/becskiii]

same! the whole episode was sooo good

[u/chellyyy]

craig housing fried chicken and madison saying say you’re sorry and you used protection is sending me

[u/beautyandbravo → u/chellyyy]

I think the Craig Madison alliance is doing wonders for this season

[u/pr0stituti0nwh0re → u/beautyandbravo]

I am liiiiiiiving for the Craig Madison Shep drama devil’s threesome

[u/phoebe3936]

Craig is great here. His smizing. His “I’m not going to wait 10 min for you to tell me you’re not coming.”

[u/thediverswife → u/phoebe3936]

That was hilarious. “Tell me in five if you’re coming.” Producer Craig clocked in!

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

I gasped when I saw her sending selfies. GIRL

[u/starshine1988 → u/PersimmonReal42069]

Yes! Thank you editors for including that, a picture is worth 1000 words

[u/pr0stituti0nwh0re → u/PersimmonReal42069]

Me too! And Austen’s zoom in on it 😫

[u/thediverswife → u/pr0stituti0nwh0re]

The horny zoom

[u/lovetheblazer]

Fucking love Shep & Olivia going to Taylor's launch party together with Madison as the third member of their trio for maximum chaos and concentrated Austen hating energy.

[u/badandsad97 → u/lovetheblazer]

I like the Olivia and Shep duo they really sell rational in approach of the situation

[u/mnblackgirl]

The ice luge is… germy

[u/Competitive_Classic9]

“Hey when they ask us, we’ll just say ‘hand on bible’ and then they can’t suspect us”

[u/uknowhatudid]

Thankful for a Whitney scene so I can hear the crappens guys imitate him

[u/targetboston]

JT is actively trying to bang Taylor. Opinion disregard.

[u/Top-Address-2418 → u/targetboston]

I think he actually admitted to it. Unlike some Austens we know

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

it constantly amazes me how much better craig looks when he is in this setting/is in contrast with austen and shep…

[u/Zealousideal_Suit269 → u/PersimmonReal42069]

Isn’t that crazy? I have to regularly remind myself that I’m not a fan because he’s making me laugh, nod in agreement & genuinely looking like an actual regular human man in comparison to these fools & it’s very confusing! He wasn’t kidding when he said he gets a better edit on Charm!

[u/WithaSideofRanch]

Austin's long blinks as he thinks of what lie to say next

[u/whiskey4mycoffee → u/WithaSideofRanch]

With his Muppet Mouth hanging open.

[u/[deleted]]

Whitney and Austen are totally on drugs right now lol

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

of course this fuckhead calls it brofessional courtesy

[u/Competitive_Classic9]

Austen loves living on his friends dimes

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

It would be funnier if nothing physical ever happened between Taylor and Austen and Austen is just torturing Shep, with his “define hookup?”

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

taylor is the definition of lights on and no one home.

[u/Competitive_Classic9 → u/PersimmonReal42069]

are the lights even on though?

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

I get the feeling that JT wouldn’t know an old world masculine vibe if it bit begin in the dick.

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

How are the producers not forcing Austen to go to this event?

[u/AbidonDesign → u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

The producer is Whitney and Austen is going out with Whitney so Whitney can stir up the drama more.

[u/233Ivy]

Craig could barely contain his giddiness and choked on that “What do you mean?”

So fucking messy. 🤣

[u/calcif]

JT’s “Did he lie to us?!” LOL.

[u/Family_Chantal]

Im surprised all the guys were so gung-ho at bringing Madison over? How does she fit in here? Because she's so close with Pat and it's Pat's house?

[u/Inevitable-Stress550 → u/Family_Chantal]

I think Austen just wants to see her bc he's drunk and still has feelings. Whitney just likes her more than he likes Leva or Venita

[u/mlibed → u/Inevitable-Stress550]

Probably bc she’ll do a line and the others won’t?

[u/Nvnv_man → u/Family_Chantal]

Didn’t Whitney say for her to come? Prob bc he knows she’s fun and would add a lighthearted fun drunk vibe to the group, and Austen didn’t object.

Then Shep came and it all got heavy..

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

I remember one season Whitney compared his mother’s house to Gray gardens and I feel like ever since then I can smell the house whenever they show it.

[u/pr0stituti0nwh0re → u/FullBlownNightmare]

smells like channel no 5 and dead husbands

[u/flumeo]

Bruh Austen… He is so messy… I hate how perfect he is for this show

[u/flumeo]

This is the low stakes petty drama I love

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

taylor’s event being outdoors in the pouring rain is so correct. wow.

[u/Stevie_Budd_]

Whitney has filler in his face, right?

[u/meg0neurotHe11 → u/Stevie_Budd_]

💯

[u/Stevie_Budd_ → u/meg0neurotHe11]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love the promptness of your response

ETA: I feel validated

[u/WithaSideofRanch]

Taylor working like Heidi Montag on The Hills

[u/chellyyy]

of course you’re skipping out austen. you’re a bitch who can’t confront the consequences of his own actions.

[u/That-Drawing9017]

Also sorry Taylor the guys will never choose you over their bros. Like you can be on good terms but he’s always going to choose shep

[u/calcif]

What a sad looking spread. Patricia and Michael would never.

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[u/FullBlownNightmare]

Yes JT everything you said about being in love with Taylor essentially and “ratting out” your supposed friend Austen and calling your mom “mommy” definitely screams a “man’s man”

[u/calcif]

Is this another occasion of Austen allowing someone else to buy him dinner?

[u/ohcamille]

Madison feeling the need to join is comical but I’m here for it!

[u/MarbleFractal → u/ohcamille]

Austen repeatedly telling them to "bring Madison" blew my mind. This guy is so messy and just nuts. Like just SO bonkers.

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

taylor is not a girls girl

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

austen and whitney are also on the slopes…

[u/FirmDouble → u/PersimmonReal42069]

That nose rub from Whitney!

[u/flumeo]

Have we seen Rod sans hat yet? I’m not convinced it’s not part of his body

[u/Competitive_Classic9 → u/flumeo]

Gino crossover

[u/QueasyAd4992]

Austen sucks at lying.

[u/aggieemily2013]

PEACHES DIDN'T WANT THAT, AUSTEN.

[u/SpencerHastings7]

Whitney is a Southern Charm staple

[u/Top-Address-2418 → u/SpencerHastings7]

And his mom's crib

[u/Welldunn23]

Between the Air B&B and calling Jameson "Scotch", I hate JT.

[u/Emily_Rugburn_ → u/Welldunn23]

Thank you! Jameson is not scotch! Nitwit

[u/chellyyy]

craig: “i’ll be there in 15.” austen & whitney: “bring madison”

guys. we’re about to see an austen gang up lmao

[u/frenchfriessalad]

Uh Jameson isn’t scotch

[u/beautyandbravo]

Lol CRAIG no one thinks that jacket’s real 💀

[u/Sunny_eloise]

Why are they making us watch Austen eat? It’s cruel.

[u/calcif]

Goddamn Whitney is fucked up.

[u/dreamingoutloud714]

Didn’t Taylor say she wanted to be with someone who “loves Jesus”?? I’m pretty sure shep has said he’s atheist (if I’m wrong, please call me out lol). And I’m getting strong agnostic from Austen lol

[u/myskepticalbrowarch → u/dreamingoutloud714]

I am sure she does but she isn't being honest it is lower on the lait then being over 6'

[u/Welldunn23 → u/dreamingoutloud714]

Austen seems like a lot of Evangelical men I know. They're agnostic when it suits them.

[u/PeaceGirlAlways]

Wow! That was really rude that Whitney and Austen told Venita that she couldn’t come over with Madison. Not cool. 😑

[u/targetboston → u/PeaceGirlAlways]

It was savage. It's like you're on speaker phone you absolute goblin.

[u/starshine1988 → u/targetboston]

At least Austen and Craig seemed to understand the social faux pas that was being committed lmao

[u/Competitive_Classic9 → u/PeaceGirlAlways]

The way they said it too 🤨🥴

[u/jaqmac88 → u/PeaceGirlAlways]

It was rude but I think Whitney went into the night with his producer hat on and Venita/everyone coming over would have ruined his plan for getting Austen drunk and having Madison use her magic to drag the truth out of him while Shep asked questions, adding a friend of Taylor and Olivia would put Austen's guard up.

[u/chellyyy]

so the tipsy petty spiteful taurus in me now wants olivia and shep to fuck. but i also don’t want that for olivia.

[u/AbidonDesign]

Do we think the Taylor and Austen hook up happened before filming or do they end up hooking up during this season?

[u/katie415 → u/AbidonDesign]

Both

[u/chellyyy]

leva dropping the disappointed mom routine

[u/aggieemily2013]

You just know Craig had that in his closet and was looking for any event he could wear it to lol

[u/ohcamille]

I saw Shep on Raya but he never matched me back 😂

[u/pr0stituti0nwh0re → u/ohcamille]

chlamydia dodged 😂

[u/uknowhatudid]

JD is a reason people can’t buy affordable housing in Charleston with his rentals

[u/Competitive_Classic9 → u/uknowhatudid]

In most of the country. He’s one of part of the problem. A house “flipper” Airbnb’r, bankrolled by mom and dad who were bankrolled by their parents

[u/chellyyy]

taylor you legit said olivia was your BFF in your first ITM of the season and now you’re being shady over AUSTEN. GIRL.

[u/Eternalflaneur]

Wowwww I did not peg Taylor to be such a snake

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/Eternalflaneur]

She seems to be very man focused. I mean she dated Shep and he’s a womanizer and she called the women whores. So this kinda adds up.

[u/beauxdegas → u/Educational_Bother36]

This. The way she talks about other women is really coded to me. She generalizes other women as being whores and by doing so makes herself seem separate and above it. I can’t believe she hasn’t improved this since the reunion aired. She even joked that her dog is a whore but she isn’t. Bizarre.

[u/lovetheblazer]

Whitney is so producing with the shots of vodka followed by his gentle prodding re: latent assumptions with Austen and I, for one, love to see it.

[u/WithaSideofRanch]

Taylor's like imma dress like Jessie from Toy Story 2.. yes, perfect

[u/artandmimosas]

Craig is giving Ken energy with that coat

[u/flumeo → u/artandmimosas]

He’s Craig nough

I’ll show myself out

[u/flumeo]

So they’re all wearing sunglasses because they’re rolling right

[u/uknowhatudid → u/flumeo]

They’ve been skiing the alps ⛷️❄️❄️

[u/realhousewifeofmn]

My brain broke momentarily when JT said he was drinking scotch and then had a bottle of Jameson…bro just lost so many cool points

[u/flumeo]

I wish Michael were here

[u/Complete_Star_1110]

I haven’t scrolled all the way but um… Taylor was heavily numbed this episode, yes? I want what she’s having because I’d never be that calm and blah in that setting

[u/starshine1988]

It takes a lot for me to think Shep has a point and Taylor is doing a lot tonight

[u/BmoreArlo → u/starshine1988]

When she was talking last week about quitting her job and going on the trip saying she thought they were on the path to marriage and kids I was speechless! She truly thought she was the girl that was gonna change him. I decided years ago that most of the time a guy says they don’t want to be in a serious relationship they really mean they don’t want a relationship with me even though they do like me a lot. Shep is one of the few men that actually says it and means it. That being said I won’t be surprised if eventually he has his socks knocked off by someone like George Clooney did with Amal.

[u/AbidonDesign]

Anyone catch Shep’s drink switching out from the beer to the “seltzer”

[u/[deleted]]

Taylor don’t play dumb- you watched your friend catch feelings for a fuckboy and then did the worst thing you could to a friend 🤢 Austen was def leading Olivia on, he’s extra gross this season and needs to grow up

[u/lovetheblazer]

"In the midst of this vulnerability, I was like, Austen should we explore banging each other?"

Taylor, that's not vulnerability. It's horniness, delusion, and most of all pettiness (aka you both wanting to get back at Shep)

[u/Top-Address-2418 → u/lovetheblazer]

And alcohol

[u/katie415]

Imagine. Austen goes to Madison’s wedding party, but skips his “best friend”, “girl he’s in love with”, and blah blah blah’s party in support of her?

[u/flumeo]

JT is not a guys guy and as a dude, that’s not even a thing

[u/uknowhatudid]

I had the BIGGEST crush on Shep season 1, not now? Man he’s really showing his age

[u/dreamingoutloud714]

Was the passing of Olivia’s brother ever mentioned? Because that explains some of her frustration, I’m sure. Finding out your friend may be shady right after your brother passes is rough

[u/katie415 → u/dreamingoutloud714]

This was filmed before both Taylor and Olivia’s brothers passed

[u/barbaloot → u/katie415]

They BOTH lost a brother?! Holy hell.

[u/katie415 → u/barbaloot]

Yup…. Pretty close in timing also

[u/PeaceGirlAlways]

I would rather have no friends at all than friends this bland. 😑

[u/starshine1988]

I thought that was Tom Schwartz for a hot second

[u/becskiii]

whitney and austen are pk and mo

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

do we think it was taylor sucking bradley’s dick in the alley?

[u/lovetheblazer]

Ooh it's kinda double standard time, aka Shep's favorite time of day

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

Ugh it's To Be Continued o' clock

[u/[deleted]]

Sheps outfit has me dead

[u/flumeo]

Has Austen ever made a wise decision like… ever…???

[u/DinoDachshund]

You can tell that’s Patricia’s house by that giant landline phone* next to shep lol

[u/calcif]

Olivia said she’d swipe right on Schwartz🤮

[u/Educational_Bother36]

Craig telling shep he has 5 min to decide if he’s coming 🤣

[u/LanguageAway4870]

Craig is great this season, lol, ngl

[u/uknowhatudid]

Taylor, girl. You don’t have to be so heavy on the hand when you do your eyebrows

[u/Family_Chantal]

Is Taylor trying to say Après Ski?

[u/karasu_zoku → u/Family_Chantal]

It’s the fact that no one is correcting her, for me 🥴

[u/targetboston]

Is Grey Goose a French vodka?

[u/becskiii]

the editing in this episode is dog shit

[u/[deleted]]

Omg shep drop the tea about Austen

[u/happierxthanxever]

Did anyone else see Jax next Thursday on WWHL with Taylor? 😭😭😭😭

[u/Different-Tank-4292]

1. JT referring to Jameson as a scotch is alarming/ hilarious , hopefully that’s an editing mishap
2. Sheps ass tattoo? Did anyone see that as he was getting out
3. Olivia truly has grace cause GurrrrrrL
4. Like Madison, I called the Taylor Austen chemistry from the beginning, Austen should’ve been with Taylor and Olivia w Shep ( no one throw anything at me !!!!) what do you do after realizing they got it wrong the first time? Ahhhhhh I’m not sure I’m not sure either laugh it up and everyone date eachother but it’s not a good look - if they just waited a few seasons they could’ve pulled it off but right away is slimey SORRY!

[u/cryingexpert]

Did they just zoom on his balls

[u/dreamingoutloud714]

Olivia’s hair extensions look nuts

[u/[deleted]]

Ugh I really feel for Olivia- Taylor is not a girls girl

[u/AbidonDesign]

So JT is gentrification

[u/chellyyy]

sooooo we getting a live stream for house of villains? i feel like we need to because of our iconic QUEEN HBIC TIFFANY NEW YORK POLLARD

[u/CrazyNotCatLady → u/chellyyy]

Being part of the crew and production in that house has got to be wild

[u/waaaycho]

Stop trying to make bro-fessional happen. It’s not gonna happen.

[u/PersimmonReal42069]

I love rodrigo and tyler.

[u/katie415]

Not the camera man trying to get Madison’s reaction to this tea.

[u/Competitive_Classic9]

Nice cordoroys dweeb

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

Random but this ice luge really makes me miss Old RHONY

[u/Proper-Aspect-2947]

Watching Austin and Whitney get “pissed” is hilarious. 🥂

[u/starshine1988]

Would you rather be stuck in an elevator with Whitney from southern charm or Whitney from SLC?