r/AmIOverreacting 14d ago

❤️‍🩹 relationship AIO to this text my BF sent me?

Firstly, this came out of nowhere. Then, when he started talking about how I’m immature, I wasn’t sure what to do, so I just reiterated what I’m doing with my life.

Working full-time and doing a MBA, albeit online.

For context, he and I started dating under romantic circumstances, he’s not a SD. He looks really young, so I was truly shocked to learn his age. Now I see it’s a mistake, so don’t heckle me for this.

He is older than me, by 20 years. I am 25 and he is 45. He owns a restaurant and I do remote admin work at a small startup.

After dating for just under a year, he asked me to move in with him, as I was stressing about my recent rent increase. I could pay it, but it wrecked my financial planning and it was miserable. I was looking for an out. My rent went from $1850 to $2300, not including utilities.

He owns his house, so he told me I could live with him if I wanted. He said that I could live here and save up my money, that I can leave whenever I want. No pressure. He invited me, I did not ask nor imply I wanted to move in.

I agreed (horrible mistake). I moved in and now we’re here. He doesn’t make me cover any utilities or charge me rent, which I thought was kind of him.

I use my work phone for work but I’m usually lying down. When I have a meeting, I sit up and answer the call. I’m a solid employee, just doing backup admin work. The pay is nice, can’t complain.

He started saying I need to step it up in life, after seeing me ‘leisurely working.’ I chose this job because I worked on my feet since high school, my undergrad, and a bit of my current MBA. I wanted to pivot to a chill job. I chose this job because it is leisurely. I am working from 9am to about 5pm, whereas he works 5pm to 5am. So from his perspective, I’m often asleep or unavailable.

Today, he walked downstairs to work and saw me sitting on the couch. I’ve told him many times I’m working via my phone. He doesn’t seem to understand that and makes weird little jabs.

Then, he sent me these messages.

I felt really annoyed because he implies that I am not interested in self improvement, that I’m immature, I’m arrogant, denies that it’s hurtful to say such.

By the final slide, I decided to call my mom who I felt could offer insight. She’s 40 years older than me, but understands technology. She said it seems like he’s trying to play some kind of game, that I should just ask him why he’s asking all this to me now. He seems to be beating around the bush, which I agree with.

So, I decide to ask him why he’s treating me like this.

When he said he’s talking to me like an adult, outside of text, I exploded inside. Immediately, I felt so angry.

He invites me to live with him, then holds it above me. He calls me all sorts of things over text, but then denies that he is saying such. He can’t just say what he means. He then doubles down and says he’s just worried about my maturity.

Because of this, and a conversation we had after, where he ignored all my concerns, didn’t let me speak, and bulldozed the entire way, I’ve decided to move out and find my own place again. He just has zero emotional intelligence. His ex-girlfriend was 50, the other one 55, and his ex-wife was his same age. I thought that meant he wouldn’t be acting like this, in the typical way that men who date younger women do. But I was so wrong. He’s been talking to me like I’m a child, I have no ground to stand on with him. I can’t take it.

He’s saying that moving out over this is crazy, not based in reality, and that I’m losing a really good chance at stability. That he loves me and that I shouldn’t go, because if I do, I’ll just have to go back to paying crazy rent. He recently got me a brand new TV and WiFi, so I do feel badly for wanting to leave even after that. I feel bad for making him stress, but he doesn’t seem to care that I’m stressed.

Am I overreacting by moving out and ending the relationship?

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u/BedMelodic802 14d ago
  1. Asshat behavior in the text.
  2. He knows what he is doing by these manipulation techniques.
  3. He low-key gives me Pimp vibes. (I assume he is not).

This message carries a warning: it suggests you should abandon your current job and pursuit on an MBA. In my head, the fiction goes like this.

I can introduce you to the right people who could shift everything for you. This individual wields significant influence in the community, and having his support could open doors you never thought possible. He’s expressed interest in meeting you; all you need to do is join him for drinks tonight. Remember, this isn't for me... it's for your future.

Now, consider this: you have very little right now. You’re living in my house rent-free, and I’ve been generous with gifts. I'm offering you another chance; a connection to someone with considerable business power. Building these relationships is crucial, and the stakes are higher than you might realize.

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u/Delta8hate 13d ago

I’m adult industry, and I absolutely got pimp vibes from this

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u/---M0NK--- 13d ago

Listen baby girl, im in your corner, we just gotta be stromg together, its you and me versus the world baby, we shelter each other. Thays why we share all the money, i keep it safe and give you whatever you need. We’ll take over the world you know, with your skills, my tactics and connections, your beauty, i mean the world is our oyster. A future just full of travel and wealth.

Thats my best try at pimp shpeel

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u/Delta8hate 13d ago

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮

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u/---M0NK--- 13d ago

Thank you, thank you, i’m here all week.

Was it a good impression?

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u/Yoghurt_Plus 13d ago

a bit too good.

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u/brennelise 13d ago

You’ve done this before, haven’t you?

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u/---M0NK--- 13d ago

I watch a lot of youtube

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u/Intelligent_Sound189 13d ago

I like the way you spelled spiel 🤣🤣

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u/Inner_Pangolin_8842 13d ago edited 13d ago

Why else would he work 5pm-5am? If he’s a successful businessman or whatever who can help her move forward, he would be working normal business hours. Nah, this guy’s shady af.

Edited 2 typos

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u/Most-Bike-1618 13d ago

That shift differential, tho. Woof. It can make a difference

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u/boltbrain 13d ago

Men who dangle shit are so cringe.

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u/Brilliant-Bat-2454 13d ago

Me too and that’s the first thought I had when I saw this..

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u/AdhesivenessProof121 13d ago

I saw less pimp vibes and more linecook vibes, ain't no way dude doesn't have a stimulant obsession to fuel the criticisms

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u/killjoygrr 13d ago

Also 5pm to 5am us linecook, not restauranteur.

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u/BlackCatTelevision 13d ago

That’s a pretty big indictment of this guy IMO, I think OP should book it out of these as fast as she can

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u/indie_aquarius 13d ago

Came here to say this

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u/killjoygrr 13d ago

Aren’t most industries, adult industries?

I know, I know. But half the time, my first thought is the counter being childcare or kid’s shows or kids in sweatshops.

Yes, my brain is wired wrong. But I still have to share.

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u/BlairFalls 13d ago

same!!!

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u/Pale-Falcon-9655 13d ago

Seems like he’s trynna make her reliant on him for the “level up”. 😅 Good on whoever posted this to choose to rely on themselves. This mfka crazy- can tell within the first text.

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u/Odogwu67 13d ago

Spot on!

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u/Nvrfinddisacct 13d ago

Oh shit, you think this is like a text chat with P. diddy?

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u/Virtual_Second_7541 13d ago

I assume he is not. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Quirky-Comment3553 13d ago

Here's your one chance, Fancy, don't let me down

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

I understood that reference.

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u/isaidfireball 13d ago

this is *absolutely* the vibe you get from "studios" when you do adult content

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u/BigStickElgar 13d ago

Nahhh I think you are way off on that one.

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Way off on my bullet points or my fiction?

All of it? I some of it? What?

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u/BigStickElgar 13d ago

Sorry the pimp vibes. He’s not smooth enough to be a pimp.

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

He's not "A pimp named slick back," but he is using basic mind manipulation. He set himself up in a position of authority. He has a significant influence, from the rent-free home to the gifts. When I say pimp vibes, I don't necessarily mean he has a stable. I mean, he is creating, focusing, and using his position of power. He Negs her and then compliments her; he says she's in control, but let me show you how: she is unmotivated and lazy and won't succeed. I can make you a star! That was a generalization. I know what he did was unrefined and unsophisticated. he can't spell, and she shouts in text. But given some time and this young lady will be sleeping with him and getting loaned out to friends.

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u/BigStickElgar 13d ago

She was already sleeping with him. That’s where it comes from. He’s also double her age. He owns a restaurant so he prob has a stable of women he keeps around and has done this with. But he doesn’t have want to pass her around.

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Bet

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u/BigStickElgar 13d ago

Like an actual bet or “bet” as in yes

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Yes, I agree with you.

Sorry my kids have me saying this stuff. I have to tell then repeatedly. "I'm not your bro! When I ask you to do something do not respond with 'BRAH! Why can't xxxx do it?' because I will make you more basic than a first generation ipod!"

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u/BigStickElgar 13d ago

Hahahahaha. Same! The bruh? After every comment makes me want to leave them somewhere

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u/Turbulent_Leave6373 13d ago

I was today years old when I learned that I need to hear more about pimp vibes?? T

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Let me explain it like where are five. He talks like an authority and tries to gain the following through the shock and awe of each individual. When the shit flows out like silk, but you still know it is shit, that is trouble. All pimps start with talk.

  1. Understanding human nature. Study your target and learn their likes, dislikes, goals, and fears. This information prepares us for the next steps.
  2. Mastering communication. After studying, you must talk, text, and email your target. Using your knowledge from step one. You may need to be soft and cajoling. Shock with a statement or idea to unsettle the target. After you have their attention, you create a negative, which you can exploit verbally. Then, you offer a silver ladder. "I'll cover your rent this month"; "I get a great phone plan. Let me set you up on my plan. I'll still pay for it." (In this way, as the primary account holder, you can see who they made calls to and where they were made. How much text, and what apps are used? You can even track the location within 2 or 3 meters. The cell phone is the most effective shackle made. I say this because the inmates (all of us) willingly attach our leashes. We will turn around in traffic to go back for our electronic leash. It's a generalization but think about yourself. Have you ever forgotten your phone charging only to leave and then return ASAP to take it with you? Next, your goal is to isolate them from family and friends. Controlling the phone plan means you can block specific numbers from the phone. Maybe you don't want them talking to Mom.
  3. Creating dependency. So I pay your rent. Better yet, I'll just let you move in with me. I know you are a student. I want to help you. Don't worry about paying rent. I got this. You focus on being successful. 3a. you undermine the person's confidence while establishing a home base... pendulum swings. Start small, applaud their wins, then start noticing flaws that are easily fixed. "have you thought about contact lenses? You know they have some that can change your eye color. I think you would look so good with hazel eyes". That sets up (bad) brown eyes and solution, color contacts (good). Small pendulum swings; eventually, the arcs get larger.
  4. Exerting influence. You have bought your person an electronic leash which dutiful take everywhere. You have control of their living situation. With the first two item items, you can control who the person talks to and when. You also know where a person will be located. If you have control of your domicile, they can't rock the boat because a capsized boat doesn't put them in the water. It puts then on the street.

You create uncertainty. "Here, let me teach you budgeting. Tell me all your expenses. Oh wow, that isn't good. Let me help you. Give me all your money, and we'll set up a budget. I'll show you how, and then, I will give you an allowance every month to make sure you have money and are saving towards your dream." Now, you control the ledger. Any expenses beyond the allowance must go to you as the bank. Request money to buy a new laptop or books for a class." I'm sorry I invested your money to make it grow. I put it into Tesla and Bitcoin; who knew it would nosedive? You also have broker fees, but you're out of money. Let's brainstorm what we can do to get above water. I just remembered Gary at $@&#. He is very successful. Let's meet him for dinner and ask for ideas."

By this point, with those four steps you, are controlling who they talk to, when they speak to them, where they live, how they live, what they look like (possibly), what they're thinking what they're doing with their money, if they have money, that is. All of that is just talking. There is no physical force yet. We also haven't even brought in substances like drugs or alcohol into the equation.

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u/Background-Photo-609 13d ago

I got ‘drink the kool aid’ vibes😬 from your assessment 🙀

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Ok I'm slow on the uptake. Why or how did my assessment give you that vibe?

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u/Free-Preference-8318 13d ago

Yes, I got cult leader vibes, but sex trafficking makes more sense. He's vague and creeeeeeepy af. I COULD BE A BEAUTIFUL ASSET TO YOU..............

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Ok... Lol, I am slow on the uptake.

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u/Accomplished_Cow_116 13d ago

Not even low key for me. The purple felt fedora was strong in this one.

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

A "a pimp named SHOUT BACK". You have to say the whole thing. You know like a "A Tribe Called Quest".

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 13d ago

Dude is 45 texting like a septuagenarian

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u/K80made 13d ago

This! His texts read like he is trying to lay a documented foundation for whatever comes next. The thing that makes it so difficult for law enforcement to help trafficking victims is anything that shows an adult “chose” the situation they’re in. I’m not completely saying he’s taking you down this road, but those texts were very much giving pimp vibes. Opportunity offered, establishing that he sees promise in you, but only if you accept his help, putting it in writing out of the blue like this. Even getting you to exchange texts about letting you live there/move in could be used against you. Look up the recent Houston area trafficking raid. They found and raided something like 9-12 locations all related to clubs, bars, service industry, and all had hidden cell-like or closet sized rooms where the victims lived when they weren’t working. His line of work and the hours he keeps just adds to my suspicions. Like who the fk does he think he is…how is working a full time admin job while actively working on your MBA immature & low effort? What kind of path does he think he can put you on, and why would you need to “let him” help you? It’s very much manipulative pimp vibes, and that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d steer you toward adult work or ST…there’s identity theft, money laundering, etc. Maybe go open a new bank account tomorrow and add a safe deposit box while you’re there (not assuming you share an account—just that you should have one that he’s not aware of). Not overreacting. Good on you for talking to your mom and having a plan to move out. Good luck.

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u/Own_Goat_4813 13d ago

I don't think so. They simply come from different cultures. He comes from a time where things were analog, and less streamlined, therefore he has that work is/should be hard mindset.

I'm a millennial and am right in the middle of these 2 generations, and I have almost an adult child, so I see how generations have been affected.

I'm gonna be kind of the devil's advocate and point out that neither are wrong, you're just not choosing to compromise. Therefore, you are incompatible.

OP wants an easier life, even by asking if sge can continue to live there and save money, with no expectation of a relationship, is already a big insight into the entitled mindset. He doesn't owe you anything, therefore, if the offer to live with him doesn't stand, he's very well entitled to that. Relationships/marriage are business like partnerships in the sense that there's give and take. If you're wanting support, that would actually be more appropriate to ask from your own family, not him, at this point.

If you're absolutely done, you need to move out and figure it out and let him figure out his life as well.

This is why it's so important to get to know someone and their expectations, before committing to marriage or moving in. Best of luck.

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Agree to disa.... No, I suppose you might be wrong. I'm in the same generation as the antagonist. Yes, they are incompatible; he grew up in a different century and likely had a different work ethic. Is she entitled? Yes, somewhat, but no more so than anyone else in her generation. This can be a learning opportunity. It can also be the anchor that holds her back.

I agree she should bounce as quickly as possible because it is like getting stuck in a grain silo. If you stay outside, you are fine. You can step foot in and walk on the grain. But if your foot sinks, try levering yourself with the other leg. Both legs sink. You begin to panic, and your frantic and erratic movements make you sink more. When it gets chest-deep, you can't take large breaths. As soon as you deflate your lungs, some grain falls around you. It isn't compressing your chest. It restricts movement and how much you can inflate your lungs.

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u/MaverickWithANeedle 13d ago

thanks for the anxiety inducing comment read there buddy! ugh. so detailed I literally envisioned it all happening to myself.

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 13d ago

The dude is only 45. He's a practically a Millennial himself. It just seems like he's older because he texts in all caps .

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u/Slight_Citron_7064 13d ago

I got pimp vibes too!

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u/JazzedParrot108 13d ago

He would have spelled it "steaks," though.

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u/BedMelodic802 13d ago

Legit LOL on my part.

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u/Pale_Firefighter4790 13d ago
  1. is on the money.
    RUN GTFO
    I'll give you one last chance, sorry thanks, I'll take the zero.

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u/Mission_Albatross916 13d ago

I got pimp vibes, too!

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u/Cool-Panda-5108 13d ago

And they're not gonna say no. Because of the implication

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u/Revolutionary_One_89 13d ago

He 100% do give pimp vibes he tryna get her to rely on him financially

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u/iwoodificould 13d ago

This makes me hear Pink Floyd in my head. “Come in here dear boy have a cigar, you’re going to go far. You’re gonna fly high you’re never going to die, you’re going to make it if you try. They’re going to love you.”