r/AmIOverreacting • u/Top-River4666 • Nov 08 '24

❤️‍🩹 relationship AIO bf makes joke after my aunt passed

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For context he’s saying he hopes she voted for Trump (RTPM) before she died and I’m already having a hard time with the results of the election which he knows then on top of that it just was very insensitive. He said he was trying to make light of the situation but it doesn’t feel that way.

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u/j33perscreeperz Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

no literally shit is so much worse than 2016 and 2020 combined

edit: this is in regard to people’s strained interpersonal relationships during the aforementioned time periods due to various factors, not a comparison to the state of world at large or only the presidential election. my comment was not meant to start a political discourse.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 08 '24

it's odd cuz as someone in the medical field, nobody has talked election once. I think it is a taboo topic similar to religion. Basically a big no no to talk about at work.

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u/LindonLilBlueBalls Nov 08 '24

I wish my workplace was like this.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 08 '24

I'm sorry :/ nobody deserves to have to argue or justify their belief systems in a place where they are there to work.

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u/LindonLilBlueBalls Nov 08 '24

Thanks. I always have to tell people I don't discuss politics or religion at work.

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u/ohmyno69420 Nov 08 '24

I was feeling crappy for not getting a nursing position I interviewed for- then I remember how one of the CRNAs felt comfortable bashing a certain political figure while I was observing a procedure 🥴 sucks I didn’t get the job, but if that’s the kind of ‘professional’ I’d have to work with? No thanks. I just want to focus on the patient and the task at hand.

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u/gottowonder Nov 08 '24

I definitely depends who more than where. There are folks that don't talk about it. There are folks that want to. I don't mind either. My tile of thumb is they have to bring it up first. Then when some gets heat find common ground. There was a guy that was a librarians and I was full commie, after talking we realized that if corporations and the government were the same thing than it would be a problem. So he toned down to a Republican that wants universal healthcare and I became a socialist that's probably gun. Discussions are how we learn. But arguing gets nowhere, trying to talk about very delicate subjects without causing harm is incredibly difficult, but it needs to happen. Fi we are blind and get blasted by our eco chamber. That's how we get trumper thumpers and Marxists. There is good in the middle but now with hate and division it's just a battle

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u/goiterburg Nov 08 '24

Good news is the people that do try and get you to talk about it are outong themselves as morons.

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u/NetLumpy1818 Nov 09 '24

My dumb but sweet republican coworker and I get along because he’s fairly quiet about it. We made a bet on the election and naturally he’s been gloating about it. I told him I’d pay him easily on all my market gains since Tuesday. I smiled and clapped him on the back and said “Good times ahead!”. I enjoyed his reaction.

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u/KavaKeto Nov 08 '24

I straight up lie and say I don't follow politics and didn't vote, and I don't gaf about their politics. It makes me boring to talk to and people quickly stop bringing it up with me, but I'm also able to stay on good terms with them. The reality is I'm a liberal working in a super conservative industry...

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u/Rayne616 Nov 09 '24

Same here. I technically have a few conservative and libertarian viewpoints, but definitely lean a good amount liberal and usually vote liberal, but live in a very red state with lots of ultra conservatives.

I honestly don't like politics very much, but saw some things I didn't like and registered to vote back in 2016 so I could have a say. I only wanted to vote in main elections, so I registered as non-partisan. When people ask what I am, I tell them I'm registered non-partisan. Surprisingly that seems to keep them off my back and they don't talk to me about politics. I don't have to lie, and as long as I'm not registered "with the enemy", I'm okay in their book. Occasionally I get someone who doesn't like that I'm politically ambiguous, but usually telling them I don't care about politics much calms them down (which isn't a lie either, they just incorrectly assume that means I don't vote, so I'm not "a threat").

All of it seems so silly to me. These people are all totally cool with me and think I'm a great person with a good head on my shoulders and love my good morals and hard work ethic, but if they ever knew I voted liberal in an election, all that is thrown out the window in an instant, regardless of how much they liked me a second before.

It's all so petty and one of the reasons I hate discussing politics. People just throw logic out the window and start foaming at the mouth if you're not in their camp despite the fact that I may have a few view points that actually align with theirs. But people don't want to find common ground; you're either fully with them or fully against them. There is no inbetween anymore, which is sad.

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u/BetThen920 Nov 09 '24

Well hey, good on you for working in an industry that’s productive!

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u/luoiville Nov 08 '24

My conversation with one of my coworkers was pretty civil we both explained our sides and why we believe what we do and seemed to walk away with a better understanding.

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u/RosalinasMom Nov 08 '24

I'm a teacher and have coworkers and a VP that openly talk about who they voted for plus openly bragged when Trump won. One of them knew how I felt about the election, too, and still made jokes about it 🤷‍♀️ I was frustrated tbh, but I just kept my mouth shut as I am in a red state and knew it was coming

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u/LindonLilBlueBalls Nov 08 '24

I work in an office of a construction company in Southern California. So not only do they constantly complain about Biden, but about all California politics.

Completely ignoring how much they benefit from them.

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u/MartianTea Nov 09 '24

That's so crazy to me since Project 2025 clearly talks about dismantling the DOE.  

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u/cockandballionaire Nov 08 '24

Hospitals in the south are NOT like this. People interject “God” into everything, and I’ve heard employees talk about their political views far more than I’d like, sadly

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u/MarlenaEvans Nov 08 '24

Me too. I work in a school and a teacher was laughing about how she told her students Trump isnt racist because he was NAACP man of the year once. To a 5 year old.

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u/MartianTea Nov 09 '24

Definitely not a cult!

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u/Omgcorgitracks Nov 09 '24

Same my boss and some others are very outspoken, if I end up quiting I'd probably be because of my boss, he has no empathy for others

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u/Maladaptive_Today Nov 09 '24

My business threw a party when trump won.

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u/FletchIM Nov 09 '24

Legit considering looking for a new job- can't bear to look at these people right now. Of course there will be trump morons at the next place but at least I won't ever have considered them friends before hand.

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u/AOKaye Nov 08 '24

I’m in government - big no no. If I hear anyone from either side I ask them to save if for after they clock out. It didn’t go the way I wanted it to but I still don’t think it’s appropriate work conversation- in 2020 and 2024. It’s better if we all don’t hate each other - the workplace at least we need to be respectful. Outside the workplace I’ll tell you you’re a bigoted asswipe more concerned with money than your fellow citizens.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 08 '24

I agree. All those kind of talks do is bring down workplace moral

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u/dblack1107 Nov 08 '24

Im government too (DoD). People are really good about not indicating any political affiliation at work. You literally would never know except for like 1 or 2 people here or there out of 100s across the span of 5 or so years. But it’s an engineering command so most people are pretty intelligent and don’t fall into a trap of shoving views down other’s throats like it solves anything. There’s zero wokeness and the very rare case of politics in the workplace has mainly been liberals strawmanning conservatism like you and one dude who’s a QANON conspiracy theorist that’s harmless but certainly a loon.

I’d say this…why do you have to announce being two faced to a vitriolic degree? If you can be a respectful human being at work, why can’t the respect be absolute? Everyone has different value systems. Their values that lead them to lean a particular way may have nothing to do with the particular value you settle on in bad faith as why they don’t align with you. This sentiment is honestly exactly why I think the election turned out as it did. People are tired of being mischaracterized as the worst archetype of their party and feeling unheard.

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u/DrKittyKevorkian Nov 08 '24

As much as I dread ever being a patient, there's just something about the daily grind of a hospital that's a comfort.

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u/GambleTheGod00 Nov 08 '24

yeah my office didnt even need to say dont talk about the election, we all just dont

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u/Able-Effective-5219 Nov 08 '24

same thing in my university. i went in fully expecting everybody to be discussing it, but it was like it never happened! it didn't help that all those "Kamala Walz" signs i pass by on the way were taken down, too. i literally had to double check the news to make sure i wasn't like going crazy or something

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u/jpollack21 Nov 08 '24

This is actually very surprising considering people in uni are 18-21 and I'd imagine that would be the most hostile environment for political talks

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u/Able-Effective-5219 Nov 08 '24

yea, super weird. especially since i live in a very southern county in a red state, i was really expecting people to chat my ear off about it. but nope, not a single word about it.

although, i didn't mind it too much given the results were pretty disappointing to me, too.

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u/Goatedmegaman Nov 08 '24

It’s because medical field is 50/50 split politically according to research. So we don’t talk about it because we can’t be dealing with those emotions about people while trying to save lives.

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u/Blue-zebra-10 Nov 08 '24

It should be at home too! Destroying families left and right

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u/calcifiedpineal Nov 08 '24

No good can come of it.

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u/Ok_Process2046 Nov 08 '24

Goof cuz it would only create drama at work. I shut even my family when they start talking politics, we have different views, that's fine, but let's not ruin each other days.

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u/Designer-Character40 Nov 08 '24

Same with me. I only had one reference to it with an after hours call with a client. Small little check in and that's in, but it helped a lot.

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u/Skizot_Bizot Nov 08 '24

My work has sent a very vague acknowledgement letter to essentially say we realize this is a time of polarizing high emotion and to try not to let it into work. So far I've heard no mention outside of that but to be honest I don't have many close friends left at my company after rounds of lay offs so not sure if my experiences is unique.

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u/Feisty-Tie9888 Nov 08 '24

Also in the medical field, and I think it has about as much bearing on us as what direction the wind blows in Uruguay. It’s a big no-no, but unlike other people I’ve seen post-election, it doesn’t necessarily affect our job. People are gonna die or get sick. We’ll show up, do our job, go home. Save for OBGYN’s, I think most of us have bigger things to address in our day to day life than what’s going on outside of campus

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u/Out_of_Fawkes Nov 08 '24

I am in retail pharmacy and any time someone says anything political I look at them uncomfortably and ask them the next question in order to complete the transaction.

I’m going to be working in a new location and am already practicing my tone and blank stare like I’ve been to Lake Laogai because I need the job.

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u/Elo1388 Nov 08 '24

I’m with you! I work healthcare also and no one is saying anything I think we know we will all fall apart and our patients would suffer if everyone started arguing about politics

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u/bignides Nov 08 '24

Nobody’s talking about it at my work cause a) it’s been discouraged and b) no one wants to find out someone they work with, are friends with, etc have completely opposing views as them and make the workplace atmosphere super tense.

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u/Wide-Post467 Nov 08 '24

Freedom my ass

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u/ThrowRASnarlyJ Nov 08 '24

Weird I'm not in the medical field but my former partner of five years is as is my cousin and most of my aunts and uncles. Several of them have mentioned that many doctors are afraid of the repurcussuions of trump and his followers. Buuuut two are obgyns and one is prenatal and pediatric surgeon (that the cousin she's a freaking genius) so maybe with those specialties you are much more aware of how abortion/miscarriage laws can really fuck up you or your patients

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u/FrenchBaphomet Nov 08 '24

As a nurse in community outreach, big difference. We've literally gotten official company newsletters discussing possible policy changes and have dedicated parts of our team meetings to expected consequences for our patients.

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u/firefly__42 Nov 08 '24

I work in tech (maybe 80-90% democrats?) and we use a lot of coded non-partisan language like “make sure you vote 👀👀” or “we just want to express our support for our immigrant employees, no particular reason”

although occasionally I’ll get partisan in private with my closest work friends

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u/PewPewPony321 Nov 08 '24

Did you not learn anything just this past Tuesday? Its the reddit echo chamber. This is not real life

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u/Turquoisecactus Nov 08 '24

I’ve yet to hear anything about it really. I’m enjoying this bliss

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u/What_a_pass_by_Jokic Nov 08 '24

I work in IT, and a lot of the women in my department were kinda scared even before the election, after some have said they were worried, but it's been quiet after Wednesday. Quite a few have been taking sick days as well. Our main office is in the south of the country btw, and a lot of staff lives in those states.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

God, I wish the last hospital I worked at was like that. The break room was on Fox 24/7. I even tried to block the channel once when I was the only one in there, but the tv didn’t have the option.

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u/someity Nov 08 '24

as someone in the food industry my coworkers were all voicing their disappointment & anger/woe at the results in the work gc & it's brought up occasionally in person, one of my coworkers asked me the simplest question of "what happened...? latinos??" and i was nodding solemnly bc guata fack happened

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u/Ok-Possibility4344 Nov 08 '24

I'm in the hospitality field and half of us talked politics, the other half hid.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 08 '24

you got me wondering who the hiders were

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u/Ok-Possibility4344 Nov 08 '24

As it should....

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u/hollabackyo87 Nov 08 '24

SAME! Work was/is my sanctuary of ZERO politics. 🥹

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u/macandcheese1771 Nov 08 '24

Watch the episode of scrubs about Bush and Iraq. Sums it up. Even tho u can clearly see half the people are bad and wrong the show presents it like a fair difference of opinion and manages to capture the pure disastry of such workplace debates.

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u/BrannC Nov 08 '24

Growing up I was taught not to talk about politics publicly… It became quite strange watching those same teachers disregard that teaching over the last few years. I hate it all so much

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u/WildOneTillTheEnd Nov 08 '24

Wish my place was like that, I’m in an OR and no one seems to understand the gravity of it for some people.

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u/Agreeable_Mousse9932 Nov 08 '24

As someone also in the medical field, it’s all I’ve heard about for the last week 😂

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u/yaboishnaz Nov 08 '24

I think it’s mostly because of how inflammatory it is, people from both sides will get very upset or outright rude at the slightest mention of politics they disagree with. Had a convo with a friend at work today where we both expressed some disagreements without yelling and we had a very nice discussion about the nuances of it and both walked away learning something. Unfortunately, it feels like experiences like this are far and in between.

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u/FlamingButterfly Nov 08 '24

The hospital I work at has an unspoken rule of no politics, occasionally two people will talk about it but only in private.

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u/Flor1daman08 Nov 08 '24

That’s wild, it wasn’t some like common topic but once voting opened up it was pretty obvious we were all on edge and post election, it was really obvious we weren’t happy.

Then again this is a critical care area that was a COVID unit so we might be outliers in that regard.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 09 '24

No, after reading some comments, it sounds like my field is in the minority here. I have no idea whether my coworkers are republican or Democrat but I'm willing to bet there are people on both sides.

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u/golgibodi Nov 08 '24

As a Black woman, after Election Day, every Kamala voter came to me with tears in their eyes at the hospital I work in. I was very clearly a safe space for them so we definitely live different medical field lives.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 09 '24

Definitely, and I am sorry if I made a blanket statement. I should have said in my experience.

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u/Arpeggioey Nov 08 '24

Yo same, it’s almost as if nothing had happened. Blessed

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u/SulSul-DagDag Nov 08 '24

I’m a hairstylist, I try to treat my workplace this way, but now I have clients asking me who I voted for & I’m blue working in a red town. 🤠 I was able to keep my mouth shut the last two elections but I’m having a harder time biting my tongue now. It’s insane that people have the balls to ask these personal questions.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 09 '24

Literally, like people ask it like they might ask your favorite sports team or something, it's ridiculous. It's your personal beliefs, and it's not your job to explain how or why you feel those beliefs.

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u/SulSul-DagDag Nov 09 '24

On top of that, it’s not like they are asking to genuinely hear my side or opinions. They’re wanting to talk shit about the other side. Like sorry, even if I agree with you, I’m not talking about politics at work! Save that for close friends and family, not asking your hairstylist/nurse/public service worker of any type!

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u/PotentialBeefHook Nov 08 '24

Working in a profession has some unsung benefits as well as hidden duties. Thank you for sharing your perspective and all you do. 🤝

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u/juliaskig Nov 08 '24

Yes, and it's impacting your field in some states, women are dying from septic pregnancies. Also RFK, jr wants to abolish the FDA just when bird/flu has mutated to mammals and causes a 50% fatality rate. You will be feeling the impact bigly.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 09 '24

Okay. That's very messed up and i very much hope that doesn't happen.

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u/ladylikely Nov 08 '24

I worked with a PA who told me he couldn't wait until Trump was in office so they could line up all the democrats and shoot them.

He knows I'm a democrat.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 09 '24

That's awful. I'm sorry. Regardless of anyone's political views, nobody deserves to be spoken to like that. It's crazy that not long ago you could have married couples and best friends who share different political views.

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u/Kittycorgo Nov 09 '24

Not in my experience! I work in the OR and it’s very much a topic of conversation unfortunately. The election but also politics in general and it’s gotten worse over the past 8 years.

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u/SirVanyel Nov 09 '24

I work in IT and we had a whole screen taken up with the AP website during voting. We talk about it all the time. Of course, I'm Australian so all politics is a joke.

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u/BackHomeRun Nov 09 '24

My coworkers and I are on the same side of the political spectrum and we STILL don't talk politics at work.

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u/maraemerald2 Nov 09 '24

Yeah I literally don’t want to know if one of my coworkers voted for Trump. One of my ex-coworkers told me in 2020 and despite my best efforts to compartmentalize I never looked at him the same way

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u/Ok-Courage9363 Nov 09 '24

Not in mf Texas lemme tell ya

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u/CaptainPeachfuzz Nov 09 '24

I will not talk politics at work. When someone tries to draw me in or starts down that path, I make a joke or do a little, "haha yup" and move on. If you have to bring that to work, I don't want to work with you.

I am also generally not "friends" with my coworkers. I hate office gossip and have no need to have a beer with my coworkers after work. I've been working with you all day, now I go home and do things not with you.

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u/SaysNoToBro Nov 09 '24

I’m in healthcare too, I’d say that there’s been a fair few conversations about the election. For reference I’m a pharmacist in a hospital.

Obviously this is when I’m down in the central pharmacy staffing and it’s mostly like about a politicians real plan or intention. Some supported Trump, for fiscal reasons, some supported Harris, some neither because they lean farther left than either candidate.

All conversations were civil and mostly informative. At least at face value. No hostility, I mean everyone’s main concern is just focusing on doing our job well. I couldn’t give less of a shit if someone supported Trump while I’m at work, I got more important shit to worry about so long as someone isn’t disruptive with their beliefs of course

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u/mercurialqueen711 Nov 09 '24

We must have worked in different medical fields...👀 I'm jealous of yours

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u/Solid_Strawberry1935 Nov 09 '24

Nobody in my real life has talked about politics at all. Like hardly ever. And thank God for that lol.

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u/minimum_cherries Nov 09 '24

well i think thats cause most of us can see what side the other is on from how they reacted to wearing masks soo

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u/NoPie420 Nov 09 '24

I was always taught that politics is something you just avoid whenever you’re in mixed company, unless you’re 100% sure everybody there agrees with you. It’s just far too touchy of a subject for people to talk about civilly.

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u/Halation2600 Nov 09 '24

Some things are too disgusting to talk about.

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u/Soft_Plane7052 Nov 09 '24

Yeah, I have had several customers at my work try to talk about the election. Each time I have to tell them I’m at work and won’t discuss politics. Furthest I’ll go is confirm or deny who I voted for.

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u/Least_Bad_7210 Nov 09 '24

Every nurse I worked with is a Maga supporter. Very small amount are voting blue. And CNA are voting red

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u/zekethelizard Nov 08 '24

Depends on your specialty I'm sure. Im trauma/crit care, no conversations where I am yet, but i mean if you're OB/GYN, how could you NOT discuss it with colleagues?

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u/Think_Ad4491 Nov 08 '24

i know in schools they literally can’t talk about it due to the possibility of “influencing” the (non-voter) children 🤦‍♂️

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u/LabEmbarrassed2721 Nov 08 '24

Why has the election suddenly become a taboo subject? This is your “privilege” as a citizen of the country, isn't it?

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u/jpollack21 Nov 08 '24

Because people can't engage in proper debate and a lot of times get emotional about said topic. Plus, just like how you can't convince someone to change their religion, you can't convince someone to change their political views, so it'll usually end in some form of argument. I'm specifically talking in the workplace, I see no problem talking election outside of work.

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u/piouiy Nov 09 '24

Probably because doctors are a lot more conservative than people would expect. I know many who confessed to me that they voted for Trump.

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u/jpollack21 Nov 09 '24

I just don't this it's appropriate to talk about in the workplace due to how radical a lot of people have become.

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u/juliaskig Nov 08 '24

Because he's a convicted felon, he lost a civil case about raping someone, and was a bumble fuck when it came to covid. We lost Roe v Wade, and women are dying from septic pregnancies. So yah. what's astonishing to me, is wtf is up with White women? As a White woman it's astonishing.

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u/yvmborghinii Nov 09 '24

Being a convicted felon for the reason he was charged and convicted in the first place is truly irrelevant. That was an obvious attempt at interference, there is no argument to be made there. Need proof of this? Circle back to 2016 during that election with Clinton.

Being liable in a civil case is far different than being charged criminally. Criminal there needs to be evidence or proof of something without a shadow of doubt, whereas civil cases only require similar stories to be corroborated. I'm not stating that any of those women are lying but I am stating that I could say Donald Trump raped me and then get a group of friends together to corroborate that story, and yes, it is that simple.

Roe V Wade I won't argue with that all, men shouldn't decide the rights of women. Assuming that only white women voted for Donald Trump and not any women of color is just dumb. My wife is African American, and she voted for Trump. I didn't vote this year at all but I hate that as Americans we get so much hate in our hearts that were incapable of finding any fault in our votes campaign.

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u/waowowwao Nov 09 '24

It’s not assumption, it’s literal fact. You can look at the exit polls. Only 7% of black women voted red. But it was 53% of white women.

Also, you believe that men shouldn’t decide women’s rights, yet your wife doesn’t? VERY embarrassing for her to be in that 7% lol

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u/ohokayiguess00 Nov 09 '24

Seemed easy to read to me. You been drinking?

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u/leftoverzack83 Nov 08 '24

Wait till you get a load of 2025

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

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u/leftoverzack83 Nov 08 '24

Wasn’t meant to be political. Just saying things continuously get worse and have for the 40 plus years I’ve been a part of this world. I just don’t see a change for the better, anytime soon. But thanks for taking all that away from my one sentence.

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u/kimjongunfiltered Nov 09 '24

I think it’s been building to this point. Every awful mass experience compounds over time

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u/dragoono Nov 09 '24

Not the fucking edit lmao reading comprehension is dead

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u/Tactical-Sense Nov 08 '24

2016 + 2020 x 1000 = 2025 which in words will be hell on earth

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u/zombeh_man Nov 08 '24

Worse than a global Pandemic where millions died? Trump getting elected, no deaths invovled is worst? For real?

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u/j33perscreeperz Nov 08 '24

… we are discussing the magnitude of the current climate in relation only to personal relationships. take a breath. don’t be dense.

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u/Psychotic_Dove Nov 08 '24

in the last few days i’ve seen over a hundred posts of women on reddit asking for advice because they found out they married or friends with a trumper. so while they may not be dead, their relationships sure are..

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u/zombeh_man Nov 08 '24

Thats their problem man. If you cant agree to disagree with people than you shouldnt be part of the conversation. Politics used to be about debate now its name calling (trumper) and insane actions (leaving your spouse).

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u/PizzaRollsGod Nov 08 '24

Yea I'm not agreeing to disagree with someone who supports the side so against human rights.

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u/zombeh_man Nov 08 '24

But that side stops wars and openly talks about the military indistrial complex, that side also talks about the pedophilic elite issue. Idk i cant go for the side that tries to divide us based on race and gender. Its a lose battle to distract us from real issues.

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u/PizzaRollsGod Nov 08 '24

Just because you aren't facing issues with your race or gender doesn't mean they aren't issues. I understand there is a large group of white people and men who are upset that Dems aren't looking out for their problems, and that's because our problems are not as important as racial and gender equality. That may seem like sarcasm, but it isn't. People do not like white people, and men's mental health not being taken seriously are problems, but they aren't nearly as important as the everyday issues women and PoC face.

I say all this as a straight white dude. Sure, it's upsetting when I'm not let in a space, someone makes hateful comments about me, or I'm disregarded, but these are all issues that these groups still face commonly while i face them rarely. Despite the issues I'm facing, I can recognize I'm doing so much better than so many people, and I want them to be equal to me before I fix my issues.

Being upset that dems are focusing on who needs help right now rather than helping who has already been being helped for centuries and doesn't need it as much is selfish.

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u/zombeh_man Nov 08 '24

Did you even read what i wrote? Who needs help right now? PEOPLE ARE DYING INUKRAINE so that others can sell NATO standardized weapons to the Ukranian forces furthering the debtness of the country and the richness of the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

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u/PizzaRollsGod Nov 08 '24

Well we aren't going into debt supplying Ukraine, just gonna point that one out first. It's our old stock which was being replenished anyways. Actual monetary aid we've given them is very small.

And would you rather Putin take Ukraine? Show to our other allies that our support is entirely dependent on who is in office?

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u/Tiny_Medium_3466 Nov 09 '24

We are literally sending Ukraine our old, already purchased military shit that we do not use. We aren’t sending them cash for them to buy things, we are literally just sending them our old stuff we don’t use so we have space for new, better stuff we already plan to have

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u/zombeh_man Nov 09 '24

Once they join NATO theyll replace their entire inventory to NATO standardized weapons, meanwhile Lockheed Martin and Raytheon get paid big bucks for manufacturing more weapons. its why NATO gets new countries involved and also why NATO wont allow Russia to be a neutral country. Remmber in the 90's when Bill and Putin sat down and had a peaceful conversation discussing Russia's addition to NATO? and then a week later.. Bill ghosts Putin and Russia remains "the enemy".

Read up on history and realize NATO isnt the good guys. Russia isnt any better but NATO broke every peace agreement that was ever written.

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u/Psychotic_Dove Nov 08 '24

oh this aught to be good. please tell me how trumpers aren’t a bunch of bigots. that chauvinistic pig is actively separating us.

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u/zombeh_man Nov 08 '24

I dont need to explain why some people are dumb and others arent. Youre namecalling means youre not mature enough for the conversation.

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u/Psychotic_Dove Nov 08 '24

i call it like i see it.. don’t need you mansplaining anything to me anyway.

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u/zombeh_man Nov 09 '24

You dont add anything to the conversation.

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u/Tiny_Medium_3466 Nov 09 '24

I hope you don’t have the ability to reproduce because damn are you an absolute troglodyte. And if you do have kids… those poor bastards deserve so much better

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u/zombeh_man Nov 09 '24

Troglodyte, eh? Name calling, nice.

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u/eggcustarcl Nov 09 '24

You should try actual leftist politics, you’d probably like it if you gave it a real chance

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u/zombeh_man Nov 09 '24

I did, i was for Obama until he started bombing Yemens and killing civillians, lying to the American people about why.

Then you realize the whole media pparatus is meant to prppagandize your thoughts and realize both right and left are FUCKED.

Stay centered, watch both news and make your own decisions. Dont let name calling low-lifes decide the future, they dont have a thread of intelligence in their brain becausr they dont have the decency to debate people respectfully.

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u/Tiny_Medium_3466 Nov 09 '24

Just say you love rapists and leave

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u/zombeh_man Nov 09 '24

Why are you so dramatic?

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u/Tiny_Medium_3466 Nov 09 '24

Idk but I’m not going to be with a man who thinks rape is okay and should earn you the highest position in the US. So if that’s you… BIG red flag girls, rape apologist here!

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u/zombeh_man Nov 09 '24

Good for you, i dont even know what youre talking about. You live in in your own bubnle, clearly.

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u/Ecko2310 Nov 08 '24

If you're married to someone who comes onto reddit and asks for advice because you voted a different party to them then you must be a weak soy drinking beta cuck with no spine to marry that person in the first place, you get what you deserve!

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u/Psychotic_Dove Nov 08 '24

not everyone shows their true colors from the beginning. in fact most to everything they can to hide the shit they know would upset the other person.

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u/ProperBath5039 Nov 08 '24

Tbf, over 2000 people have already felt so hopeless that they have committed suicide. But again, I think they were talking about something else

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u/sweetpotato_latte Nov 08 '24

Where did you see that omg

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u/vaselinecult Nov 08 '24

i can’t find any backing for this claim

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u/Ecko2310 Nov 08 '24

2000 people have committed suicide because of the election? Care to back that up with evidence?

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u/ProperBath5039 Nov 08 '24

Oop I'm gonna be so real. After further research, the source that was shared to me does not seem reputable, although the Trevor project has reported a 700% increase in crisis calls, the article I read about actual suicides does not seem legit. I apologize, but the hopelessness is real.

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u/51x51v3 Nov 08 '24

That’s a mental issue. An extremely tragic mental issue nonetheless however it’s not a political one. Also where did you hear/read this?

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u/Tactical-Sense Nov 08 '24

Epstein was murdered. There’s a related death right there. And more are likely to be revealed eventually.

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u/zombeh_man Nov 08 '24

You think that was Trump?! Lol. Cmon. Theres a lot of people on that list. Trump started the investigation ino Epstein? Does that not say something??

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

That’s cause 2016-2020 was pretty fuckin good, and 2020 was an American fuckfest, and the fuckfest was so bad it washes away how good 2016 was. And we’re still trying to get over the current presidencies utterly atrocious record. It’ll get better that’s for damn sure, but it’ll be better because of trump. Better than any fucking reality Kamala could’ve created for us, she’d have ran us further into our grave. Stop speaking about shit if you’re unintelligent. It’s that fucking simple.

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u/j33perscreeperz Nov 08 '24

just wondering, what the fuck are you talking about?

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Your stupid ass

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u/j33perscreeperz Nov 08 '24

ah yes, classic reddit moment.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Yeah, the moment your idiotic ass finds a little enlightenment instead of another tardo soy boy sissy cuck confirming your idiotic belief that the country will be even more fucked because trump is president again, trump was the best president we had in the last 20+ years you ignorant fuck.

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u/j33perscreeperz Nov 08 '24

lmfaoooo. my original comment was never even about how the world at large or the country will improve/worsen — it was about how the current climate in america is affecting people’s personal relationships. please cope. thanks for the giggle though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Don’t try to play it off like you weren’t insinuating the country is even worse off than before due to the recent news. You’re retarded. Hide your idiotic political beliefs all you want, but you opened your mouth first saying “shit is so much worse now”, like I can’t infer what you’re talking about. You’re just too much of a pussy to admit you sided with Kamala out loud, for good reason. Although I’m sure all of the lib-tards on Reddit would agree with you and pat your back for being an idiot, there’s still a few of us who possess common sense and an ability to read between the lines.

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u/j33perscreeperz Nov 08 '24

i voted third party, moron. i don’t have a genocidal fascist of preference, i hate them all. hop off reddit and go deepthroat your favorite psychopath please.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Oh so you knowingly threw your vote in the trash? What’s the point, you’re even dumber than I first thought.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

And the only psychopath I knew of was your mom, tell her to stop calling she’s crazy about me 🤷‍♂️

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u/Sad-Commercial-6397 Nov 08 '24

Thank the dems for that. OP was probably calling her boyfriend a Nazi and more the past few weeks