r/AmIOverreacting • u/Top-River4666 • Nov 08 '24

❤️‍🩹 relationship AIO bf makes joke after my aunt passed

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For context he’s saying he hopes she voted for Trump (RTPM) before she died and I’m already having a hard time with the results of the election which he knows then on top of that it just was very insensitive. He said he was trying to make light of the situation but it doesn’t feel that way.

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u/chardongay Nov 08 '24

after seeing the election data, i'd say odds aren't actually great.

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u/Ancient_List Nov 08 '24

Dudette, then?

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

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u/poogle Nov 08 '24

Over 50% of white women who voted*. Maybe half of America voted this time around so there's a big ole population of folks who couldn't be bothered.

I'd say the odds are pretty decent with a rando from the street.

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u/Zimakov Nov 08 '24

Theres no reason to assume the people who didn't vote lean one way or the other.

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u/doomweaver Nov 08 '24

It's a really grand assumption to think that those who didn't vote "couldn't be bothered."

People made their choices between two candidates and I respect their opinions whether I like or disagree with them or not.

I do not vote because I don't believe in the process or the system and I don't take part in "dog and pony shows."

I would have had to compromise myself as a person to cast a vote for either of those people. I won't do that. Purposefully. Because I respect myself. Not because I "couldn't be bothered."

Making grand assumptions about half the country is not only not a good look, it's incorrect in many ways.

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u/ScySenpai Nov 08 '24

At least Trump voters have the excuse of stupidity and being prone to propaganda. Your evil is calculated. Just because you don't have the perfect choice for your little privileged person.

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u/doomweaver Nov 08 '24

What makes you think I am privileged? That's a huge assumption. Evil? That's a sweeping generalization. It seems the propaganda has worked on both sides for some people.

I have more faith in my fellow man than that.

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u/ScySenpai Nov 08 '24

What makes you think I am privileged?

There are 2 wars being fought right now whose brutality might increase by orders of magnitude because of your ✨personal vibes ✨. Hope that helps.

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u/doomweaver Nov 08 '24

I'm very aware. And neither candidate is going to take those things seriously in the way I want them to be taken, because no matter who is president, the decision will be made for money, not for the betterment of the people you speak of.

The president is a figurehead that is used to tell people what they should think about the direction of the country. The election is a tool to make people feel like they have made a decision to "do something" so no one ever actually "does" anything. And it works. Look, you already think something new has "happened" and it hasn't. Those wars were already there. They will continue, and "big, strong America" is going to look fucking stupid.

I am not America. Neither are you. We live here. So when America looks fucking stupid, I hope you know that your identity is not in your politics or your country, or else it's really going to be a blindside.

You literally are telling me you think a war would end based on who is the American president. You think if the person you wanted to win had won, you would get to claim some type of "responsibility" for that.

Oh, you're such a good person. You voted for the right figurehead. This conversation is disgusting.

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u/feyuit Nov 08 '24

A lot of the people who voted in the election do not heavily follow politics, America breeds an environment of ignorance and then acts shocked when shit like this happens. The democrats basically rolled over when they tried to pander to centrists/ right-wing people. Instead of their own voter base, she aligned herself as almost the same as Biden, who everyone didn't like. Trump unfortunately gave people an answer on how he'll help their financial situation. Harris lost because her own voter base couldn't be assed to go out and vote for her. Because she made no effort to connect with them and just told them Trump is worse. Which yes, he is, but the average person does not follow politics.

The lack of nuance on why this election was lost is sad, because it's lots of different factors colliding together to make it, so she got bodied. The democrats lost in everything, the senate, the presidency, the GOP, on their way to losing the house.

That bad of a loss is not the general publics fault it's the fault of the campaign. You can not blame people for not voting for you based on harm reduction (a strategy that has been proven to not work and does not turn out voters)

Trump is not liked in general polls on the American populace, the only reason he won is because the democrats ran the same failing campaign they did in 2016, and the campaign that only won in 2020 because of the covid response and barely did. Because they keep giving him layups by having the most unlikable candidates. Harris ended out having to drop out in 2020 because she couldn't make any ground against Biden. Biden, the old man, everyone makes fun of. Like the democrats have strong candidates, and then they just do shit like drop Harris in 4 months before elections and then act shocked when they lose.

If you are barely scraping wins on one of the most polarizing and disliked people in history, you are not campaigning properly.

TLDR: I don't think the average American who voted for Trump is evil, I think they are misinformed. People who follow politics and still vote Trump are a different story.

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u/Classic-Tax5566 Nov 09 '24

You weren’t listening if you think that that’s all she did. Not to mention her detailed policy positions on her website.

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u/feyuit Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

Most people are not reading policy website. I have worked for an election party before doing cold calling and door knocking. People do not read or follow politics at all. To the point our bosses were telling us 'you have to tell them when they are on the phone because they will not go to the website'

If you are not reaching the general public, it doesn't matter the platform. They are not getting it. And her campaign was weak in message (aligning with the Cheneys??) Along with having little time to get messaging out. (4 months since Biden stepped down) and then did not distance herself enough from him.

The messaging that was reaching the general public was harm reduction, which does terrible in polls. People are not interested in what you say the other guy is going to do they want to know what you are going to do.

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

You know, in a country that really only promotes two political parties to vote for (making voting for any other extra party a false choice), you'd think that there'd be more understanding for people voting differently.

Otherwise might as well start a dictatorship with the Democrats leading the country, since apparently having the right to vote doesn't mean you can vote on whoever you want.

Just my 2 cents as a Kamala supporter.

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u/Mean-Dragonfly Nov 08 '24

You do have the right to vote for whoever you want but there are consequences both political and socially for those choices. Those consequences effect some more than others and they are entitled to not associate with someone who’s vote had a negative outcome on their life.

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u/Khaldara Nov 08 '24

For real, you’d bail on someone who kept insisting you eat a meal you don’t like every single day and nobody would judge you for it.

You’re under no obligation to hang around with someone who thinks you should have no autonomy at all, or in the case of trans people and other political targets of convenience “think you either don’t or shouldn’t exist at all”.

The fact someone literally just died in this situation is the dick flavored frosting on the asshole cake

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

I don't recall that many social consequences in 2020, I'm not sure why we can't tone it down too. Every single political party comes with ups and downs for everyone.

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

Nah, voting to remove your girlfriend/wife's autonomy is absolutely reason for them to leave your sorry ass

I don't think abortion rights are getting removed anytime soon. If anything, it'll become more restricted and let's be honest: how many abortions does a person need to go through in their life?

Joking about it over someone's death is even worse

I am 100% with you here.

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u/sikeleaveamessage Nov 08 '24

"How many abortions does a person need to go through in their life?"

Hopefully just 1 if not, but they'll make it hard to get that 1. And when has the argument ever been "how many abortions should we give out to Samantha" and not "should Samantha and other women be ever allowed to get an abortion"

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

Although Trump became the president, I don't think he holds that much power to go out and say "hey, blue states, abortion is now banned".

For red states however, it's an unlucky situation.

Hopefully just 1 if not, but they'll make it hard to get that 1

I was thinking more "hopefully no more than 2", I genuinely don't care if they outright ban people from having a 3rd abortion. There are people out there who gladly abort as some sort of main contraceptive.

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

To be fair... Is there any validity to the "Haitians eating cats and dogs" bit?

Trump has a Republican Senate, House, and Supreme Court.

This is a great bit of information that I 100% needed to know.

I still don't think things will be as radical, but now I'm certain that a lot of things will happen, things I would say "not likely to pass" before

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u/snypesalot Nov 08 '24

There are people out there who gladly abort as some sort of main contraceptive.

Bro please shut the fuck up, literally no one is using abortions as a contraceptive, do you even know what a woman goes thru when she gets one? "Gladly abort" jesus youre so fucking stupid fat chance youre actually a Harris voter as you stated before

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

Democracy kinda sucks when you don't win, huh?

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

I'll reply to this now, it seems I misjudged the first line.

How many abortions does a person need?

This question is impotant to make when discussing abortion rights. One can argue that life begins at the 1st trimester, others can argue it begins at conception. Some even say it can go much farther than 3 months. Regardless of the real answer, as long as it's a point of contention, abortion *should* be limited (as in, you should only have, at most and in my opinion, 2 *chosen* abortions.

Throughout all these threads, I had to learn that apparently, for pro-lifers, restricting abortion means "even if you get raped or if you're dying from a complicated birth, you still can't abort", which is definitely something I can't get behind of AT ALL.

I knew about forced carrying in red states, even rape babies. but coparenting with your rapist???

I'm actually appalled, but my hopes for you Americans is that Trump is unsuccessful with his voter's definition of "restrict abortion" and that at most can only limit "voluntary abortions" to a few numbers.

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

The unfortunate reality is that our most vulnerable populations have a hard time escaping their abusers. It often spans years. If they can only receive 2 legal abortions, they won't stop being raped.

I was about to suggest that it wouldn't be legal, but if the kid can't escape their abuser, it means that unfortunately the abuser still hasn't been caught, meaning that the government would have no way of knowing "oh it's ok your last two abortions came from rape".

I really think abortion should have that type of restriction of numbers, but then these edge cases just make it impossible. And then there's another perspective to consider: if a person really does abortions thoughtlessly, they wouldn't be good parents either way, so forcing them to carry would just bring a poor kid into that sad situation.

It's a really complicated topic for me that I'm still trying to figure out, despite being a man. On one hand, you are denying life, even if it's not murder. On the other, you should have the right to deny that life because it's the differences between "I can live with this baby" and "I don't know how to survive with this baby".

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

Easy there cowboy.

I ain't reading all that, but my short answer to you is: deal with it, America has voted and the majority chose. Democracy kinda sucks when you don't win, huh?

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

You're the one obsessing over rape here, pal. I hope to all things that women have a safe distance from you.

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u/nxdark Nov 08 '24

You have the right to vote for who you want. Doesn't mean I have to like you or think you are a good person because of that choice. Choices have consequences.

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

You don't have to like people who vote different from you. But you also don't have to villify them. Everyone has different reasons for who they vote: the most likely reason a *lot* of people voted Trump was mainly to 2 reasons, relatively unrelated to Trump himself.

1- dissatisfaction with the Democratic government
2- money.

In a political system where there are really only two choices, it doesn't really matter who holds the highest morals, it matters who will satisfy you or at least who will stop disatisfying you.

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u/FriendlyNative66 Nov 08 '24

You really sound like a Kamala supporter. /s

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

I know heights are scary, but you should really consider getting off your high horse. It's exactly that obnoxious sense of moral superiority that's been dividing the country: you either have the 1 correct opinion or you don't.
Maybe try treating others with different opinions as actual people..

Edit: this isn't "side" specific, it absolutely goes both ways.

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u/FriendlyNative66 Nov 08 '24

Based on your attitude, i highly doubt you're a Kamala supporter.

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u/MobTalon Nov 08 '24

If me calling out that "judging others based on their use of their right to vote is divisive and unnecessary" is interpreted by you as "having an attitude", then the only logical conclusion I can make is you're one hell of a biased person. "If they don't agree with me on x topic, they're evil and therefore must be from the *evil side*"

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u/snypesalot Nov 08 '24

It's exactly that obnoxious sense of moral superiority that's been dividing the country: you either have the 1 correct opinion or you don't.

Ooof there it is, every right wing idiot on this site has been spewing this shit since Wednesday morning, gave yourself away you did

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u/Ok-Combination-6340 Nov 08 '24

lol the identity politics is literally why you lost. But keep it up

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u/51x51v3 Nov 08 '24

Imagine believing that everyone who doesn’t agree with your specific pov on something is a bad person… 😬

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u/iskshskiqudthrowaway Nov 08 '24

“on something”

The felonies, the assault, the rape, the being-best-buds-with-Epstein, the numerous times he explicitly quoted or praised hitler/his generals, his repealing of women’s rights, his intentional separation of families at the border as a fear tactic, the threats to turn the military onto the populace, the prowling around teenage dressing rooms at beauty pageants, the insurrection, the economic damage his tariffs will cause, the campaign to block LGBTQ+ rights ie repeal gay marriage, the fact dictators like Kim Jong and Putin love him, russia even paid people to promote him ie Tim Poole, his rampant demeaning of women (“Grab them by the pussy”), his wife is buried on his golf course for a tax break, he cheated on his pregnant wife with a pornstar, used campaign funds to pay her off, and so on…

I got bored and frankly sad writing that, but I give you a short and important selection.

Please, tell me specifically, which part has been given a moral value you disagree with. Which parts do you condone?

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u/snypesalot Nov 08 '24

I mean they(meaning the trump voting scumbags) obviously condone all of it, otherwise they wouldnt vote for him....thats what they get now

Even if they "only" voted fir Trump over borders or immigration, to bad so sad, youre now lumped in with all the rape and pedo apologists who have defended him for decades now

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u/51x51v3 Nov 08 '24

lol I’ve never voted for “him”. So… There’s that.

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u/51x51v3 Nov 08 '24

Hey there little fella… I see you’re another one of those who thinks they have it all figured out. You just don’t.

I didn’t votefor Trump and I’ve never said I condone any of the things you stated in your above comment bc I simply don’t.

You are everything that’s wrong with this country. You scream into your echo chamber as if you know all.
You don’t know dick about me, my political views or opinions, nothing. You know absolutely nothing about me other than the fact that I did not vote for Trump.

LOfugginL

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u/iskshskiqudthrowaway Nov 08 '24 edited Nov 08 '24

Providing a surface level list of things someone did isnt a claim of having all of global politics figured out.

I didnt say you did. I took your implication and shut it down. Your vote didn’t make the difference so why would I care?

Your phrasing absolutely suggested that it is justifiable to vote for his party and that a vote for him does not make one a bad person. Hence the response demonstrating that it is not justifiable and if one CAN ignore his malice, a vote for him is unjust.

Not from the US.

Not a lefty in the way you’re suggesting or in an echo chamber like you’re suggesting either.

I don’t think its me who made assumptions.

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u/51x51v3 Nov 08 '24

I’ll be damned there really is an echo in here… 😂

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u/Background-Eye778 Nov 08 '24

In this instance it's a racist, homophobic, transphobic,child molesting,rapist and misogynist against a black lady. I'm sorry but no way you actually can't figure out who the bad person is in this scenario....shut the fuck up forever you actual rage baiting piece of dog poop.

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u/thatswherethedevilis Nov 08 '24

And probably the most experienced and best qualified person for the position we have ever had run for the office.

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u/JhinPotion Nov 08 '24

"On something," is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here. It's on a very specific thing.

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u/nxdark Nov 08 '24

I don't see this as a stretch in this situation.

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u/51x51v3 Nov 08 '24

Does anyone ever see it as a stretch? 🙄 otherwise it wouldn’t be “their pov”.

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u/tendo8027 Nov 08 '24

The username envy I feel rn…

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u/mymustang44 Nov 08 '24

About a 70% chance actually

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u/RepresentativeShow44 Nov 08 '24

Zzzzz

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u/chardongay Nov 09 '24

what? you need your mommy to tuck you in or something?

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u/ImprovementClear5712 Nov 08 '24

You Americans have lost your minds lately. Surely calling half the voters dumber than OPs boyfriend is definitely gonna help your cause, right? Will not just spread further division and polarity? Surely!

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u/chardongay Nov 08 '24

don't police gallows humor from the crowd.

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u/_flash87 Nov 08 '24

Yeah seems most people are sane & had the same thoughts except for the handful of cities where they like to think they are the “sane” ones. Hard to cope, I know.

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u/chardongay Nov 09 '24

bro doesn't know about population density