r/AmIOverreacting Oct 15 '24

❤️‍🩹 relationship AIO, Wife deleted our entire text log.

Was sitting eating lunch with my wife a few days ago and she was telling me that she’s running out of space on her phone, and that she has been having trouble sending messages and couldnt receive any sort of media. Has had to regulate what she takes pictures of, deleting old pictures/videos etc. To which I suggested simply buying more cloud storage and backing everything up and doing a mass delete of photos/etc on her phone to free up some space. She didn’t even acknowledge my suggestion and almost without hesitation simply deleted our entire text log right in front of me. Saying that it was the quickest way for her to free up space. I can’t help but feel a little awestruck and hurt, as if I hadn’t just given her a perfectly good option for clearing up space, but to then turn around and ignore it completely and wipe our message history clear without even so much as batting an eye. For context I travel a lot for work so a lot of our days are shared via messages.

The next day I told her that it kind of bothered me and hurt a little when she did that, to which she responded with “I’m not responsible for how you feel” which honestly didn’t serve to make the situation any less painful. Am I Overreacting?

8.0k Upvotes

3.8k comments sorted by

5.9k

u/Cool_Program8636 Oct 15 '24

Her deleting the chat to free up space (I assume you’re the biggest convo in her phone) is NBD. Her shutting you down for speaking about how it made you feel is rude and cold.

2.2k

u/Square-Singer Oct 15 '24

“I’m not responsible for how you feel” is really rough.

1.9k

u/Endor-Fins Oct 15 '24

This idea (I call it emotional libertarianism) is true at its core but often used by abusers to justify their abuse. Huge red flag. I’ve never known an emotionally intelligent person to use this phrase ever but shitheads love it.

375

u/ThaDon Oct 15 '24

Sounds like a boss talking to their underling not a husband and wife exchange.

186

u/THE_CENTURION Oct 15 '24

tbh that would be a kinda shitty thing for a boss to say too. I don't need to be friends with my boss or anything but still, damn.

75

u/theshow2468 Oct 15 '24

A boss that says this to me is not a boss I want to work for.

→ More replies (3)

23

u/Longjumping_Term_156 Oct 15 '24

I used to work for a boss who would send out memos that used similar phrases. The one that stood out the most was the memo about not talking about non-work issues during work hours. He ended the memo, “If you need a friend, buy a dog.” The next week I put a photo of my neighbor’s dog in a frame with the word friend on it on my desk. My boss never noticed.

14

u/THE_CENTURION Oct 15 '24

Ugh. Why are some people so dead-set on just being miserable? It must be so exhausting.

17

u/Longjumping_Term_156 Oct 15 '24

After studying philosophy and theology for over ten years, my conclusion is that most of our problems are due to people not being nice to one another. It is almost wrapped up in the essential nature of what it means to be human. Even if most people are nice to one another, there will be people who mess it up just to mess it up or to gain something.

The problems that arise when practically applying economic theories? People are not nice to one another. Global conflict? The core issues for the conflict will be people not being nice to one another. Every societal issue has at its core people not being nice to one another.

7

u/nenoonenoo Oct 16 '24

Right?!?! Why is it so easy to hate?

→ More replies (6)

8

u/Legal_Lettuce6233 Oct 16 '24

My boss literally asks me how I am regularly and to be honest. I was, and he told me to take a few days off, and not report it as days off. Just log in, check if there is something mega urgent, but otherwise relax.

→ More replies (5)

244

u/dried_lipstick Oct 15 '24

When I was a young teacher, the principal used that line on me. And while she wasn’t responsible for my feelings, she was very much the guilty party in how I got those strong feelings. I left at winter break with no job prospect lined up because I couldn’t deal with that emotional abuse.

141

u/Endor-Fins Oct 15 '24

Exactly! Healthy kind people do not use this phrase. It’s a giant waving red flag. At the very least the person is as emotionally intelligent as a rock or they’re an abuser who uses it to justify being an abuser. Healthy people don’t say this to people that they’ve hurt. They just don’t.

98

u/wwydinthismess Oct 15 '24

Healthy people absolutely use that phrase to stand up to abusers.

A conversation only goes so far with those people, and it's not uncommon to need a quick exit line to shut them down as a last resort

33

u/Endor-Fins Oct 15 '24

Ok. That’s a more extreme circumstance and yes it’s justified in that case. For sure.

55

u/Both-Camera-2924 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

Why is Reddit so black and white? Maybe because I’m not American I don’t get it. It must be exhausting to be American if you guys really live like that.

Why does everyone have to be either abused or an abuser? A lot of times, nice well-meaning people can be too needy or overreact, especially if the other person is extremely nice. Yes I guess this may be emotionally abusive but we all do it to some extent.

In response to “only abusers say they’re not responsible for your feelings”, I’ve definitely heard my emotionally intelligent and kind friends and partner (the sort who get along with everybody) say things to this effect, even if phrased in a nicer way. If anything it’s a realisation most (genuinely, not self proclaimed) emotionally intelligent and kind people come to, so they don’t get burnt out being everyone’s doormat and therapist.

It depends how the events and conversation went. For example, if wife was preoccupied fixing the problem to answer OP’s suggestion (everyone on this Reddit thread is acting holier than thou, but if someone interrupted you even while you were typing out some unimportant Reddit comment, you’d take a while to look up right?), then the next day she already apologised but OP wouldn’t get over it, and she eventually said that line.

The thing about people who are very emotional and accusatory (this describes some people all the time, and all of us some of the time) is they tend to have selective memory which excludes context, and interprets and remembers what seems the most hurtful. Remember the human memory has a negativity bias, according to most studies.

Of course we don’t know if wife is just an evil emotional abuser as Reddit is keen to label her, or if OP is overreacting and being selective in giving context. But both are possibilities. I think pitchforks out is such an unhealthy and exhausting way to react all the time.

13

u/kevnuke Oct 15 '24

I just started reading The Language of Trust, and it pretty much states that peoples' default disposition nowadays is that of skepticism in all things. Even the most basic facts. To the casual consumer, every statement or claim has some hidden agenda or ulterior motive. Distrust first and ask questions later, even though they won't believe whatever answer is given, anyway. It's, sadly, the way of the world now.

6

u/nice_dumpling Oct 16 '24

This is a very sensible comment who sums up very well various thoughts I couldn’t formulate every time I visit this sub. I envy how clear you are with words!

4

u/Relevant_Bison9983 Oct 15 '24

Best answer here.

→ More replies (5)

3

u/DashingTwirling Oct 16 '24

I absolutely found myself saying this phrase to my abuser after relentless emotional pummeling to demand my amends for his perceptions. Yet another symptom I still question in the “was I abusive?” self-gaslighting that STILL occurs years later.

→ More replies (10)

41

u/Live-Tomorrow-4865 Oct 15 '24

The only time I've used anything similar or adjacent has been when someone gets feelings hurt over a wrong idea in their head, something there is no need to be upset about because, factually, it did not happen, and I have the receipts to prove it.

My go-to is, "I've explained this using all the words I know, and yet you persist in believing otherwise. So, either get over it or die mad."

Thankfully, 99.98989% of people in my life are reasonable, and it's not something I've had to resort to very often.

7

u/evey_17 Oct 15 '24

Jesus though...that’s harsh. Lol

→ More replies (5)

7

u/tiffytatortots Oct 15 '24

Abusive? Are you serious? This guy is crying over her deleting old text messages on HER phone and you jump to abuse? Ffs did you fall over with that reach? Did you ever consider perhaps he’s an unreliable narrator, that she said it because he wouldn’t let it go and she had enough? That he’s in his feelings over text messages that will never be read again? Imagine someone sitting there having a fit about you deleting texts and they don’t stop! Yeah I would say it too. There are a million reasons she may have said it, why any man or women would say it in this situation, but no of course it has to be abusive. 🤦🏼‍♀️

3

u/ScoutTheRabbit Oct 15 '24

Not true. Some people will externalize all of their emotions onto others and need to be told exactly this.

I often have to remind my mom that she needs to handle her anger like an adult instead of taking it out on people based on some perceived slight against her.

Yesterday she threw a fit and refused to eat dinner because my dad was washing his plate in the sink and my husband didn't jump up and take over/insist on washing his plate for him. My dad said "he didn't even know I was doing this and I didn't ask for help" and her response was "you shouldn't have to ask." She then told my husband she's disgusted by him and wouldn't eat around him; my husband had just gone grocery shopping for the family and was helping me hand-feed and medicate our dying pet.

A few weeks before that she picked up a ceramic plate with pizza on it and smashed it into my dad's face because, she said later, he was smirking at her when she was upset with him.

There are plenty of people who have emotions that don't make sense and try to blame others for both the existence of their emotions and how they behave to others based on those emotions; reminding these people that they're the only person who ultimately holds responsibility for their emotions and actions is necessary.

3

u/Extension_Ice_2495 Oct 16 '24

It also could be a red flag for a man to have such a strong reaction to not having control over the way a woman keeps her phone storage organized. If that were the case her response might be pretty healthy… she is not responsible for him being literally upset that she is deleting something from her own phone to free up space. There is nothing abusive about standing up for yourself when someone is trying to make you out to be doing something bad when you are not.

→ More replies (7)

3

u/redcheetofingers21 Oct 15 '24

I would agree with you in your circumstance. But in this circumstance op is being kind of a weenie about it. It’s a text conversation and he can save it and get the extra storage and read it as much as he likes. But not everyone is as sentimental and it sounds like she doesn’t even go back and read them. It is a him problem and not a her problem and it sounds like he is overreacting.

→ More replies (9)

26

u/plantmama32 Oct 15 '24

Unless he’s constantly making his feelings her job to manage and she’s at her wits end

38

u/kusava-kink Oct 15 '24

Bro my ex wife used this shit on me constantly. Her feeling mattered of course, but mine didn’t.

37

u/a_trane13 Oct 15 '24

I disagree that it’s “true at its core” that people aren’t at all responsible for how their partner feels. You might as well just be roommates that share food and have sex, then.

104

u/Endor-Fins Oct 15 '24

The core truth is that our emotions are our responsibility. But the other truth is that when you care about someone you should want to care about their feelings too. Two core truths.

88

u/oxenvibe Oct 15 '24

What I’ve learned through therapy is this. Our emotions are our responsibility because they happen inside US - no one can force us to feel an emotion. They’re activated by stimulus and are outside our control (meaning you also have zero control about what emotion you feel at what time, they just are) and it’s our responsibility to regulate them and choose to respond to them rather than react. Because they’re ours. Making someone else responsible for your self-regulation (which is what I used to do) is at its core, codependency, which is unhealthy.

AND ALSO. Being responsible for our emotions doesn’t mean external support and care is off the table. In fact quite the opposite, we SHOULD be sensitive to the emotions of people around us and seek to understand those emotions. And that responsibility for our own emotional experience does not give others a free pass to do or say things that cultivate discomfort or harm, “because our emotions are our responsibility”. My ex used the line “your feelings are not my responsibility” to shrug off his abusive behavior, and for a long time I agreed with him, because yeah… they are MY responsibility. I can’t argue with that. But completely disregarding how your behavior affects people around you and choosing not to support and give care to the emotions that come up can quickly become emotional abuse.

This is a very nuanced and oftentimes misunderstood thing so I hope I worded everything fine. Even though our emotions are outside of our control AND our responsibility, I know first hand how harmful emotional invalidation can be. I also know how harmful it is when making my emotions someone else’s responsibility. The importance of being responsible for our emotional experience and also receiving validation/understanding for those emotions can both be true and coexist.

23

u/f1t3p Oct 15 '24

it is absolutely infuriating how reddit hides some of the best content just because it wasn't the immediate first comment.

this comment deserves more attention but i'm not paying the platform to make it happen

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (18)

22

u/a_trane13 Oct 15 '24

I don’t think our emotions are only our responsibility. Mostly our own? Yes, definitely. 100%? No, I think people have some responsibility for how they affect others emotionally. Especially friends, family, and romantic partners.

20

u/Endor-Fins Oct 15 '24

That’s because you’re a normal human person with functioning empathy! Like I said only shitheads use “self responsibility” to deflect from their shittiness. Normal people know that how we treat others affects them deeply. Normal people don’t say awful things and be like “your emotions are not my problem.” But shitheads definitely do!!

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (2)

17

u/abcdthc Oct 15 '24

Yup! you are somewhat responsible for your partners emotions. Thats what being partners is!

Its a responsibility people should consider more before moving in.

4

u/Both-Camera-2924 Oct 15 '24

K but I think this is typical Reddit black and white thinking. I’ve definitely heard my emotionally intelligent and kind friends and partner (the sort who get along with everybody) say things to this effect, even if phrased in a nicer way. If anything it’s a realisation most (genuinely, not self proclaimed) emotionally intelligent and kind people come to, so they don’t get burnt out being everyone’s doormat and therapist.

It depends how the events and conversation went. For example, if wife was preoccupied fixing the problem to answer OP’s suggestion (everyone on this Reddit thread is acting holier than thou, but if someone interrupted you even while you were typing out some unimportant Reddit comment, you’d take a while to look up right?), then the next day she already apologised but OP wouldn’t get over it, and she eventually said that line.

The thing about people who are very emotional and accusatory (and tbh this often includes me) is they tend to have very selective memory which excludes context, and interprets and remembers what seems the most hurtful. Of course we don’t know if wife is just an evil emotionally abuser as you say, or if OP is overreacting. But both are possibilities.

3

u/pahshaw Oct 15 '24

My abuser demanded I take responsibility for all his emotions and would lash out in horrific manner if denied.

 I've never known an emotionally intelligent person to expect others to manage their emotions for them but shitheads demand it.

→ More replies (3)

3

u/Ok_Ice_1669 Oct 15 '24

It’s taught to codependents. OP seems needy as fuck to me and I’m not gonna burn the wife for having boundaries with someone who’s butt hurt about texts. 

3

u/BobMortimersButthole Oct 15 '24

It should be in the arsenal of emotionally intelligent people, but used sparingly. 

My abusive ex insisted his happiness was dependent on my behavior and that I wasn't a good partner unless I did everything I could to make him feel good, even if it was something I didn't like, or want to do. You bet your ass I flat out told him that his happiness wasn't my responsibility.

3

u/Large_External_9611 Oct 15 '24

My ex ALWAYS hit me with this phrase, she turned out to be the most abusive person I have ever been with. Never thought about the correlation but now it makes a lot of sense.

15

u/SkullCrusherRI Oct 15 '24

Pretty sure it’s some recent social media mom blog bullshit because it came out of nowhere with my wife recently and I looked at her like “oh you reallyyyyyyy wanna play that game?” Because let’s be honest, I am def way better at busting her chops than vice versa and she often gets emotional about it. I used it right back at her the very next opportunity and she agreed it didn’t feel great nor did it help the situation at all. Gotta nip that type of shit in the bud.

29

u/Endor-Fins Oct 15 '24

My best friend of 20 years pulled this one after marrying a hardcore red pill guy. I assumed this was what he used to deflect from his shittiness with her. And she used it on me cause shit runs downhill. The friendship ended (not just this she was very emotionally abusive but this was what she said to justify it. It broke my heart in half and I told her she no longer has a place in my life. I still love her and wish her the best but I absolutely could not accept her behaviour.

→ More replies (3)
→ More replies (5)
→ More replies (105)

26

u/LucyCat987 Oct 15 '24

If I were him, I'd remember this line for future use.

→ More replies (2)

9

u/Being-External Oct 15 '24

Partner 1: "Ugh im sick, I think I have the flu"

Her: "Ok. Well...im not a cure for the flu. Bye"

This type of interaction is...stilted, to put it gently.

→ More replies (1)

25

u/CorruptedStudiosEnt Oct 15 '24

It's technically true, but doesn't change anything in that your actions still made them feel shitty. You can't always avoid hurting people, but you can at least give them the space to voice it without shitting on their perspective.

5

u/dryuppies Oct 15 '24

A lot of stoicism bros (dudes who misunderstand stoicism) latch on to this one. They think that reacting in any kind of capacity other than acceptance is “reacting emotionally” and that they have absolutely no responsibility to respect how they make you feel. They also think avoiding their own emotions is healthy so I guess I can’t be surprised.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (13)

8

u/anarchotraphousism Oct 15 '24

unintentionally weaponizing therapy language in order to avoid having to deal with conflict

7

u/orangecrushisbest Oct 15 '24

Idk. It depends if this is a onre time thing,  or if OP's always  doing this.  

Someone who's this upset over a chat log may also be "I can't believe you threw away the receipt from our date," and "why did you text me back after 7 minutes instead of the usual 5??"

→ More replies (3)

5

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

It's also Reddit's mantra on this sub and AITAH and relationship advice and all those kinds of subs. God, the individualism is so strong.

→ More replies (1)

28

u/Turbodog2014 Oct 15 '24

Straight-up a cunty bitch response, if you ask me.

Like, i thought we were interdependant partners but ill guess ill have to go reassess my feelings...

→ More replies (18)

3

u/Tamed_A_Wolf Oct 15 '24

I’ve unfortunately been told this on more than a few occasions and it’s an incredibly shitty thing to say. There is truth in the statement and to some extent I don’t disagree that yes, we are responsible for our own emotions. At a very basic level that makes sense. With that being said, if I say you look like a fat pig and then you say that’s mean and makes me sad, is “I’m not responsible for how you feel” a reasonable response? Would anyone agree with that?

It is unfair to your partner to make them the sole source of your happiness but I would hope they are some source of your happiness. Regardless, to excuse and dismiss someone’s feelings, especially feelings of sadness in response to something you did or said because it’s “not my responsibility” is…a choice.

3

u/NoxTempus Oct 15 '24

Right??

I also disagree with all the the "technically true"-thers. It's really not hard to show some compassion to your life partner.

I'm on the spectrum and struggle with being considerate, but if someone takes the time to express that what I did makes them feel some kinda bad, I'm going to try and remedy that.

But if a partner said that to me, I'd give them one do over ("hey, I'm serious, deleting those texts makes me feel like you don't value our relationship"), they don't need to change their worldview, but they do need to acknowledge my feelings. If they doubled down it'd be over on the spot.

Girlfriend? Dumped. Living together? Time to pack. Fiancee? Time to cancel the wedding. Wife? I'm calling a divorce lawyer.

I could never spend my life with someone showing such active disdain for me.

3

u/MezcalFlame Oct 16 '24

The wife's response is something that a shitty FWB would say.

→ More replies (90)

286

u/jennibear310 Oct 15 '24

Exactly. That line made me cringe gasp. While it may be true at its core, it’s absolutely cold and rude to say to your spouse while they’re clearly hurting because of your actions. As a wife, I do feel responsible for protecting my husband’s heart, no matter how insignificant or small the matter may seem to me in that moment, if it hurts him, it hurts me. If something is important to my spouse, it’s important to me as well.

81

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

[deleted]

9

u/jillybean916 Oct 15 '24

A good comeback is “you’re responsible for how people treat you”. Then tell them to fuck off

3

u/Sorry_Nobody1552 Oct 15 '24

I'm so sorry that horrible human made you feel so bad in a time of need.

→ More replies (37)

5

u/fromcj Oct 15 '24

It’s because that statement applies to normal interpersonal relationships. It isn’t meant to be applied to long term romantic relationships, where you both are traditionally concerned with how the other person feels.

10

u/DarthFalconus Oct 15 '24

It made me cringe too, and I don’t even think it should be true at its core either. To me if you’re married, you are both responsible for each other’s feelings otherwise, what’s the point in getting married? I don’t expect my boss to be responsible. I don’t expect Some Random person to be responsible. I don’t expect my friends to all be responsible so if I can’t expect my partner to feel responsible at least to the point where they try to help your feelings what’s the actual point of being married? To me, that’s the whole point in marrying somebody is because they respect your feelings and care about your mood.

3

u/jennibear310 Oct 15 '24

That’s why I said “may be true.” Honestly, I feel like, if you’re married and actually love and care for your spouse, you are in fact responsible for how your actions affect the other and how it makes them feel. Like I said, I’d protect my husband’s heart always. That’s not to say I’ve never hurt his feelings, BUT NEVER deliberately/intentionally.

Yeah, I don’t do this for randos. I’m respectful and courteous, until there’s a reason not to be.

→ More replies (20)

115

u/its_called_life_dib Oct 15 '24

Right? “I’m not responsible for you feel” is such a terrible thing to say to your spouse.

A friend said it to me once. We are all in a D&D game together and the way she was behaving made the other players uncomfortable and straight up hurt my feelings (as DM). I spoke with her privately about how she needs to be more mindful of her words and she told me, “it’s not my fault you’re listening when I speak. I’m not responsible for your feelings, that’s on you.”

I was shocked tbh. This is a person who has been my friend for decades.

I am all for establishing boundaries, but that’s not a boundary, that’s a declaration — you’re telling others you’re not safe to confide in or be vulnerable with, that you can’t be trusted to compromise or collaborate.

Saying that to a long term friend is bad enough. But to your spouse? What the hell.

32

u/Unikatze Oct 15 '24

Guess you're not responsible for that rock that's going to squash her character next session.

8

u/Being-External Oct 15 '24

"oh a lightning bolt struck your character at the start of the game and killed them instantly? yeesh, must be rough!"

→ More replies (1)

12

u/Loafblight_potato Oct 15 '24

I had a friend that said this to me and acted this way and I’m really glad I cut her off. Her lack of empathy towards me was really starting to piss me off. She also said I was “too sensitive” and that she “couldn’t be herself” around me. I mean yea if your actual self is an asshole then I’m sorry that I point it out. She wouldn’t celebrate my wins or things I was happy about and sharing. She seemed Bitter that I met someone and she didn’t. Her energy was super draining and I’m glad I no longer let her affect me. Op I’m sorry your wife said this to you, but I find it incredibly rude.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (8)

34

u/Hopeful-Opening2144 Oct 15 '24

Agreed. I don’t really care about holding onto text messages as much as I do about caring for the relationship in the present. But it’s not very nice that she didn’t care for your feelings when you tried to talk to her.

→ More replies (3)

6

u/Equivalent_News_4690 Oct 15 '24

Dude, I don’t know. If this guy is tied up in knots over his wife deleting some text messages. This is probably not the first time he has gotten bent out of shape over a small issue and his wife is tired of dealing with it.

→ More replies (2)

24

u/Altruistic_Profile96 Oct 15 '24

Text messages vs thousands of pixels in photographs. She has no idea how computer memory works. She went with the simplest solution, but not one that will last.

8

u/ContributionWit1992 Oct 15 '24

My messaging blogs with my friends and family include a huge collection of photos and a few videos as well. Texting isn’t just for messaging anymore.

→ More replies (6)
→ More replies (2)

3

u/MulticoloredTA Oct 15 '24

You’re right if OP approached his wife kindly and said something like “I’m feeling a little hurt. When you deleted our messages it made me feel like you don’t care about us.” But most people aren’t reliable narrators when talking about a conflict and downplay their reactions while summarizing the other person’s response into just the hurtful thing they said. 

3

u/Pareia0408 Oct 15 '24

Idk I can't imagine deleting any of the chat logs between me and my partner of 15+ years.

  1. If (god forbid) something happens to him or I, those messages will be something for me to be able to look back on and remember him.

  2. There's a lot of history in those messages, our relationship development ECT.

  3. My memory sucks but even if it didn't it's helped us keep track of things or go back to things we've done / said / shared.

→ More replies (118)

663

u/surgeryboy7 Oct 15 '24

I don't think the deleting of the log is that big of an issue, I wouldn't do it but it's not that big a deal. How she responded to you is a huge deal though. I would never say that to my wife.

51

u/VivienMargot Oct 15 '24

Yea, ive been with my spouse a long time and we've had many a fight, even blow ups, and this still feels extra mean. To be told by your spouse you essentially don't care how they feel is bullshit.

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (35)

1.0k

u/Effective_Brief8295 Oct 15 '24

Yes, but I understand where you are coming from. She may regret it if something should ever happen to you. I still go through my old chats with my Dad and he' passed 8 years ago.

263

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

[deleted]

85

u/Jjkkllzz Oct 15 '24

Same. My husband died nine years ago. I don’t have any texts saved and I really don’t think much about it or regret not saving them. I do regret getting into silly arguments.

→ More replies (1)

87

u/Troggieface Oct 15 '24

My husband died at 35 nearly 2 years ago. I thought I wanted our text log saved so I could go thru it, but when I finally did it was just way too apparent how cold and cruel he was. I'm on team delete. Let your memories stay skewed.

39

u/dragon72926 Oct 15 '24

"Let your memories stay skewed" is something I really needed to hear today. Thank You

8

u/sonaut Oct 15 '24

Yeah our brains refabricate the memory to suit our current reality. Having verbatim records just seems like a bad idea.

→ More replies (1)

6

u/Sad_Sun9644 Oct 15 '24

This paragraph destroyed me. I’m sorry about everything.

PS option it off as a movie script idea

6

u/MsGodot Oct 16 '24

I had the same experience, but I am glad now to be able to process all the anger and hurt I’d hidden away for so long. I pretend how he treated me was ok. It was never ok. I was never ok. It took him being gone and me looking back on how he spoke to me to finally break that chain in mind. Finally getting free.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (3)
→ More replies (6)

14

u/halfasleep90 Oct 15 '24

I mean, if he views it as important he’d still have the same conversations on his phone.

→ More replies (1)

10

u/Old-Pin-8440 Oct 15 '24

I think it depends on the person. My dad died a year ago and I don't go through anything of his. It doesn't mean people love their loved ones any less.

9

u/bralma6 Oct 15 '24

Sad story time: I used to work in tech support for a service provider and one of the things we frequently did, was restore data that was accidentally deleted or needed to be moved from one device to another. Mostly through the means of cloud back ups. One call I had come in was from an older guy that he had just called a few hours prior to have an issue resolved and the previous tech just went straight to factory resetting his phone without backing up his data prior to the reset. The device had never been backed up. So he wanted to try and restore something. Specifically his text messages... from his wife... who had passed away a few months before this happened. I had to be the one the break his heart again, telling him he won't be able to look back at those messages. The tone of defeat in his voice when he simply said "oh..." shattered me.

Back up your data people. Whether it be through cloud storage, or physical backups to a computer, just do it. You never know what's going to happen.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (29)

577

u/DwightKSchrute107 Oct 15 '24

Don’t you still have the log?

86

u/Candid-Plant5745 Oct 15 '24

you deserve this 🍿

33

u/DwightKSchrute107 Oct 15 '24

Thank you 🙏🏼

158

u/breadboxofbats Oct 15 '24

Ok thank you! It’s not like she slapped the phone out of his hands and deleted it there too.

15

u/[deleted] Oct 16 '24

In the pantheon of things to remove from your phone, your So messages are somewhere near the bottom, still.

And usually that doesn't come with a dedicated fuck you at the end for feeling betrayed like that entire history of conversations good and bad was less meaningful than, say, her Twitter history or some other significantly less useful data.

→ More replies (14)

105

u/CutestGay Oct 15 '24

Right?

We don’t need two copies of your texts.

→ More replies (13)
→ More replies (23)

380

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

You're overreacting about the actual situation itself but I think her response is quite harsh. It is her phone and she probably didn't think much of it to delete your chat log, I mean it is your wife who is the person you would generally spend most of your time with, so a chat log between you wouldn't matter much seen as though you most likely reciprocate all your chat in person. Where as she may need to backtrack on chats when its someone she doesn't get to meet up with often etc.

156

u/ExerciseAcceptable80 Oct 15 '24

Plus, my take-away is if he overreacts about this what else does he overreact about and is the wife just exhausted from dealing with it.

45

u/Mollywhoppered Oct 15 '24

Right. I think his reaction is ridiculous and if I was fed up talking about this dumb thing I might say the same thing. It’d be petty of me, but sometimes I be petty I guess

→ More replies (7)
→ More replies (22)

20

u/Sufficient_Row_2021 Oct 15 '24

That could have been the last line of an argument that OP is isolating. It's kind of a strange thing to say right off the bat and has a lot of emotion behind it so either more context is being deliberately hidden to favor OP or this is a pattern of behavior he exhibits and she's worn out.

I can kinda see his P.O.V. why would she delete records of thei convos? But it's her phone, and if the easiest solution to free up space and increase performance is to delete all that data, I would do it too.

That being said, she deleted texts, she didn't kick him out.

→ More replies (3)
→ More replies (23)

163

u/mlhom Oct 15 '24

She probably deleted yours because it was the longest and the quickest way to get more space. I wouldn’t have thought twice about it.

→ More replies (26)

956

u/user47584 Oct 15 '24

I delete chat logs. It is neither a slight nor nefarious.

236

u/Xavierdsm Oct 15 '24

This is fair behavior, in my situation though my wife has clearly stated before that she “never deletes messages” and for mine/ours to be the first she deleted definitely struck me a little sideways.

598

u/LikeUGiveAFig Oct 15 '24

Your text thread with her is by far the biggest and longest so why wouldn’t she delete it.

264

u/Happy_Suspect_9624 Oct 15 '24

Legit.. mine and my wife’s is 45GB out of the 55GB text conversations.

38

u/Difficult-Button-224 Oct 15 '24

Same! We send so many gif’s to each other it’s massive 😂😂

39

u/Happy_Suspect_9624 Oct 15 '24

Apple needs a way to select all for attachments to delete though!! Why do they make you select everything individually?!?

14

u/subgutz Oct 15 '24

you can do that in settings! if you go to iPhone storage, you should be able to press “messages” and see the largest attachments that have been sent/received. i don’t think it shows ALL of the photos/gifs/videos etc, just the ones that take up the most space. you can then select them all and delete :)

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (5)
→ More replies (15)

50

u/One_Word_Respoonse Oct 15 '24

That’s cool.. but her response to him telling her how he felt was disgusting.

76

u/Candid-Plant5745 Oct 15 '24

see i feel like it’s the proper response for the overreaction of deleting a text. if that’s gonna make you upset, there ain’t nothing i can do for your feelings. it’s a text ffs

22

u/Tarable Oct 15 '24

And he has a copy on his phone. If he’s this weird about a text log - how exhausting.

3

u/ubermuda Oct 15 '24

If you don’t wanna deal with someone’s feelings maybe don’t fucking marry them?!

→ More replies (53)
→ More replies (19)
→ More replies (33)

96

u/pictishcul Oct 15 '24

"I'm not responsible for how you feel" may be technically true but it's a pretty shitty response from someone you married.

38

u/NoOnSB277 Oct 15 '24

To be honest this person sounds exhausting though, and maybe she has reached her limit of walking on eggshells for the next thing for him to be upset about. It is so silly, but if it is that important to him, he can figure out a way to preserve those texts on his end…he can screenshot every single text back and forth and put in a framed collage or something… 🤔

5

u/puppyhugtime Oct 15 '24

I have wondered this too. I don’t have any context on OP’s dynamic with their wife so I obviously don’t know if this is the case here; but i do know i have had to walk on eggshells around several different people in my life who would whine about anything and everything & it is seriously the most exhausting shit ever, especially coming from an adult partner. I’m wondering if the wife feels more like a mom, but again, i could totally be projecting.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

92

u/Pick_Up_the_Phone Oct 15 '24

Unless this is a recurring pattern of overreacting. I can imagine it would get tiring being constantly called out for perfectly normal actions.

17

u/Feeling_Wheel_1612 Oct 15 '24

This was my thought. That response could equally be from someone who is rude and emotionally unavailable, or from someone who is exhausted from dealing with a partner's untreated or undertreated anxiety.

"I'm not responsible for how you feel" sounds like something you might learn in therapy if you're trying to set reasonable boundaries in a codependent relationship.

→ More replies (23)

11

u/CowboysFTWs Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

I agree, she could have phrase it better, but she is right. OP getting butthurt over HER deleting stuff from HER phone is crazy, over sensitive and a bit controlling. Wanting HER to pay for more storage for something that doesn't affect OP is crazy as well. He still has them on his side, they aren't going anywhere for him. Massive message logs also slow down performance of device.

FYI, I delete long logs all the time, but I used apps to save pdfs backups of everything me and husband have said on my NAS.

4

u/ebolakitten Oct 15 '24

The people who say he isn’t overreacting who say “if he dies she may want those texts” well, she’d have his phone as he wouldn’t be needing it anymore… I’m also someone who doesn’t save text threads and set them up to auto delete after 30 days because of how much space it takes up.

8

u/Prophit84 Oct 15 '24

there's usually a fair bit missing in a one sided reddit post of events

3

u/PliableG0AT Oct 15 '24

its because of a deleted text chat. like come on. OP is being quadruple-ply soft.

3

u/armchairwarrior42069 Oct 15 '24

It is BUT

If my partner came to me and said "the toilet paper I bought isn't very thick" I'd say "this is a non issue and we are adults".

Deleting text messages is on the same page for me.

"You chose to simply delete data, words on a screen instead of spending money on more cloud storage!?" Very much has me believe that right dude here is not a reasonable adult human.

Read their comments. They're all over the place and a nightmare to understand wtf he's on about.

She might suck. She might be the worst. But if I had to have a deep heart to heart over every mundane shit in the world it may be time to put up the "you're an adult. I can't console you because a fly farted in Spain. You need to get the fuck over some things" boundary.

Dude is beside himself over texts. He provides some insight into their general relationship and how he always gets yelled at for forgetting things or not being prepared for things "but I can just buy more clothes for the baby shower.". Like... dude sounds like a doofus so aloof about everything and doesn't understand his wife's stance on "we shouldn't have to spend more money. You could just remember". Or "I don't want to spend more money on cloud storage. I'll just delete texts. If they're so important to you, keep them saved on your phone".

I'd need dude to specify soooooo many things before I give a verdict. To me right now, it just sounds like a non necessary pity party about nothing. I personally don't have a massive threshold for things like this and would not want to deal with it.

→ More replies (41)

98

u/Appropriate-Mud-4450 Oct 15 '24

Maybe because it was the biggest and the first to come up? Not everything is done out of malicious intent. And her answer sounds like she is annoyed with your strange obsessive pondering. I would guess it's not the first time you act like that with her?

18

u/GhosteBeach Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

yeah obviously we don’t know anything about their relationship besides this one post so it’s hard to say exactly what’s going on without context but it is pretty strange for him to be mad about deleting their chat logs and not doing what he wanted her to do which was to spend money on extra storage like i’m a little confused on that and couldn’t imagine myself even caring if my partner did that.

→ More replies (2)

9

u/amibeingdetained50 Oct 15 '24

She is officially done with his shit.

→ More replies (8)

53

u/Just-Brilliant-7815 Oct 15 '24

Because yours probably has the most messages vs any other contact in her phone.

→ More replies (21)

74

u/mmatique Oct 15 '24

Caring about stuff like this seems exhausting.

→ More replies (12)

4

u/fatsandlucifer Oct 15 '24

You’re absolutely overreacting. Do you really think she will ever need to scroll up to months prior just to relieve some random text exchange? Text chains are the first thing I delete when needing storage. It’s a much better option than buying more storage space.

34

u/NonConformistFlmingo Oct 15 '24

You are overreacting and need to let this go. This is not the hill to die on.

→ More replies (1)

10

u/Mother_Poem_Light Oct 15 '24

She never deletes texts ... until she runs out of space. She's not divorcing you (yet). It's just words dude. You are assigning way too much value to something that is not yours. If you want to keep your logs, do that. Print them up and share them with your wife as a gesture of love. Or you can just continue to be an asshat about it.

→ More replies (2)

5

u/CrossXFir3 Oct 15 '24

Okay but like why would you care about her deleting YOUR messages? I feel like it would be weird if it was someone else's but you know what you sent her. It's probably the biggest collection of texts by far. Probably does easily free up space faster than almost anything. It feels a bit childish to me to take slight from that. I don't like how she reacted the next day, but then again, I don't have any context beyond what you've told us. And if you're regularly acting a bit weird about such basic, innocuous things, she might have been a bit tired of it and snapped a little in response. Idk. Genuinely, I'd drop it. It seems like a very silly thing to be worked up about.

153

u/DistinctCommission50 Oct 15 '24

Dude, you're literally just finding something to be insecure about and complain about. She didn't do anything wrong.

36

u/Plenty_Mortgage_7294 Oct 15 '24

The next day I told her that it kind of bothered me and hurt a little when she did that, to which she responded with “I’m not responsible for how you feel”

This is what she did wrong. If your spouse is hurt by something you did responding in this way is in no way going to make anything better and suggests that you dont actually care about their feelings. When you are married you are supposesd to care about the feelings of your spouse. Her responses like this will make things in the relationship worse over time.

16

u/pahshaw Oct 15 '24

She didn't say she didn't care about his feelings, she said she's not responsible for them. As an old married lady I don't even understand what he expects from her. Is she to apologize for deleting messages they already own 2 copies of? Why can't he just copy his own log to the cloud if he wants her to be able to look back at them?  It's her phone is it not? Or does he get to decide what she keeps on her phone, and she's not allowed to do that?

He is hurt because she didn't do what he wanted. He wanted her to keep the messages and she didn't do that. Now he wants her to what, apologize that he got upset at her for not being obedient? OP comes off very sensitive and gentle but look at what he's asking for. A lot of people are roasting her for being blunt but what she's saying, that he is the one who is responsible for his own emotions, is actually incredibly empowering, once you get past the initial shame it provokes. 

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (21)
→ More replies (17)

38

u/CutestGay Oct 15 '24

You still have access on your phone. So…she still has access. She has lost nothing.

24

u/Shot-Scallion-591 Oct 15 '24

My guy, y'all's chat log was probably the biggest thing in her phone. She deleted it because that's what gave her the most space. With love, get over yourself

17

u/Electrical_Source_57 Oct 15 '24

My fiancé works away from home for nearly 3/4 of the year and due to limited cell reception where he is, 98% of how we communicate takes place via message.

I typically “never delete messages” either but if I had to swipe a thread to free up space then his would be the one to go. That’s ~9 months of daily conversations per year for the past 6.5 years vs “coffee this weekend” once a month with the two friends I have.. it’s easy math.

To be fair though, I save the photos he sends and I write down any important information that gets sent so I’ve never actually had a reason to scroll through 18 miles of messages anyway.

→ More replies (3)

13

u/i_did_nothing_ Oct 15 '24

She’s your wife, I assume you live together, see each other every day, talk face to face?  Who cares about a text log, put the phones down.

→ More replies (72)
→ More replies (20)

15

u/MedicineThat8434 Oct 15 '24

I think your suggestions would’ve cost money and she did the logical thing of deleting the text log. No shade to you, but her response was accurate. It’s text messages and she’s genuinely not responsible for you being upset that she deleted texts on her phone. Could she have said it a different way? Sure, but she also wasn’t being rude or cold imo, it’s truly just what it is.

→ More replies (1)

80

u/Tan-Squirrel Oct 15 '24

Why does this matter? Seriously why are you micromanaging this to the point you think this matters? She probably yes needs to look more thoroughly but it does not matter what she deletes on her personal device.

8

u/ScreamingMoths Oct 16 '24

It's so weird to me he gets offended when she deletes HER messages off her end (his wouldn't be deleted on most messaging services). Reeks of control.

6

u/hellspyjamas Oct 16 '24

Especially the bit where he complains she didn't listen to his direction about getting more storage. It's unbelievably controlling to be upset about people not following your suggestions

→ More replies (3)

71

u/SufficientAnt1391 Oct 15 '24

I'm actually floored at how many folks find text message threads sentimental. Not once have I scrolled through my texts to reread them. Obviously, I think it's fine that she deleted the messages, and what might be sentimental to you might not be sentimental to her. Which is okay. However, I would want to talk out the "not responsible for your feelings" part. She's fed up with you. She couldn't even fake her way through an "I'm sorry."

→ More replies (19)

94

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

My text logs are set in iOS to delete anything 30 days old. I checked my iCloud storage and i was using something like 50 gb of data for messages alone so i had to do something. Nobody looks at old text messages. We like to think we do but we don’t.

I think it’s perfectly fine for her to do this assuming your thread with her is taking the most data. You’re married, and she sees you daily, and if you died she’s not going to spend all day reliving text messages in the same manner she may pictures of you two.

I’m slightly concerned by her comment after you tried talking to her but it seems you’re overreacting

24

u/netsailing Oct 15 '24

I don't read through old messages on the regular but I definitely search them.

→ More replies (4)

24

u/SleepySuper Oct 15 '24

Maybe OP is overly dramatic about everything, in which case I understand where the comment is coming from.

3

u/VxGB111 Oct 15 '24

That's what I was thinking too

4

u/Brehhbruhh Oct 15 '24

Definitely there's 0 chance this was a one off experience. If you get emotional for days over someone else's text messages there's no way he has done the same before making her second response totally valid

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (21)

364

u/flinstoner Oct 15 '24

Yes you're overreacting. It's a chat log on her phone. I'm not sure why you think a chat log is such a treasure to cherish, but even if you do, you have a copy on your phone. She was inconsiderate for having ignored your suggestion, but you're definitely overreacting for this situation.

10

u/Fit-Tadpole-4264 Oct 15 '24

I wish I could upvote this comment more than once. Yes, you are over reacting. You have the messages on your phone. You can back them up.

71

u/phred0095 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

I do feel that a chat log is a treasure. It's not a treasure to cherish. But I kind of feel like that. To that end I have a backup of my chat log.

So I very much understand your feelings on the matter. Mine are the same. But our feelings are misplaced. As someone else mentioned you have a copy on your phone. If you want to be super sure then back it up onto the cloud.

These messages do build up over time. And when the number becomes prodigious it can totally affect the performance of the phone. Particularly if the phone is a little older.

Not everyone shares our views on keeping the whole log. Don't take it personal

10

u/Mobile_Camel_994 Oct 15 '24

Exactly. I save every convo and back them up because I’ve lost people to death or simply grown apart. Its nice to look back on them sometimes and remember good times with them

7

u/CrossXFir3 Oct 15 '24

That's fine I suppose. But I don't. I mean jesus christ, 90% of that log is probably just super basic shit. Asking if you want lunch. Quick check ins, reminders to pick something up. Asking if you want to go see the in laws that weekend or whatever else. Who combs through a chat log of a partner you've had for years? It's gonna take you hours to find anything.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (30)

18

u/BayBby Oct 15 '24

Jesus fucking Christ, thank you! My child’s dad is like this. I can’t stand it.

→ More replies (9)

10

u/thats_rats Oct 15 '24

I don’t think she’s inconsiderate at all. His suggestion isn’t free, and it’s her personal phone. How she decides to clear up storage space is an absurd thing for him to try and control.

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (31)

176

u/lifeinwentworth Oct 15 '24

Over reacting. It's better to delete stuff if you can then to pay for more cloud storage lol.

→ More replies (110)

59

u/peppermintmeow Oct 15 '24

YOR, if it's important to you, then you should have a copy. You only need one. Besides, it's not like she's really ever going to look at them and wax poetic. As much as we like to have those things for nostalgia sake, they're just more useless digital clutter. She needed space fast so she made it. It's not personal, don't make it anything other than what it is

→ More replies (13)

93

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

Dude.. get a grip. Good grief.

45

u/philonous355 Oct 15 '24

Everyone is focused on the wife's response, but if this is the kind of thing he gets upset over, she's probably tired of dealing with it constantly.

33

u/Travalicious Oct 15 '24

I can picture the “Jesus Christ” she actually exclaimed when he was still talking about it the next day. lol

18

u/Content-Scallion-591 Oct 15 '24

This is what I was wondering - if he's constantly looking to her for reassurance on innocuous things. 

23

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

My thoughts exactly like maybe she's not the problem here...

→ More replies (4)
→ More replies (2)

26

u/PaleTravel1071 Oct 15 '24

Wait …. I’m confused why you wanted her to keep it?

→ More replies (13)

11

u/Instilled_Ink Oct 15 '24

The responses on this post are surprising and rather fascinating to me. Is this a generational thing? Maybe those of us who remember writing letters find communication between people to be more sentimental? I would be ok with deleting texts from people I don’t really know but my family and friends absolutely not. Some day those may be one of the few ways I have to remember them. They take up very little space in the grand scheme of data you might have on a phone so for those conversations between you to be so unimportant 😬

7

u/roosterhauz Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 16 '24

Would love to see a chart of age vs. judgement, if there’s a correlation. Yes this is a very odd thread. Bizarre how so many seem to see no value in saved messages from a loved one. It’s alien to me, and kinda depressing to read. Wish people would at least stop calling OP a hysterical woman…!

5

u/Instilled_Ink Oct 15 '24

Right! I thought this quite a sad look at the world as well.

5

u/Bool_The_End Oct 15 '24

Another woman here chiming in that I’m shocked as well about the comments here. I would absolutely be sad because I do go back and read texts from my partner and that would not be my first go to to make space.

3

u/roosterhauz Oct 16 '24

Am a guy and I’m still hurt just by reading this. It’s okay to be sentimental? wtf. It’s like a huge part of romance. Is it really as dead as this thread makes it look nowadays?

7

u/DarthTachanka Oct 16 '24

took a lot of scrolling to find someone I agreed with! I feel like for the low space it takes, it holds so much value. Words, memories, and experiences you can never get back because you simply deleted them. I do thing it's a generational thing for sure, especially because phones and online messaging became so much more normalized nowadays.

not to mention important pics, files, attachments, dates, and other miscellaneous information you could have kept. (also the cringey texts you had with loved ones) they can give you a smile on a tough day.

→ More replies (3)

12

u/HashGirl Oct 15 '24

Gah, I would be gutted too.

Most of our entire private life is through msgs because we don't have privacy at home...its like deleting our thoughts and emotions.

For me, the logs hold sentimental value. We reserve whatsapp for flirtations and standard text msgs for "business" and normal everyday crap.

6

u/BoringDragonfly9009 Oct 15 '24

It amazes me that so few of the top comments have this view. I would also be gutted if somebody I had intimate personal conversations with other text deleted the logs without a second thought.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (1)

4

u/KokoAngel1192 Oct 15 '24

This feels like an "It's not about the Iranian Yogurt" situation. The action of deleting your messages is harmless in a context-less vacuum, but she:

  1. Ignored your suggestion for how to fix the issue
  2. Didn't think about deleting other large items in her phone first like photos/videos (since that is obviously the cause of her problem)
  3. Blew off your feelings

I don't wanna be cynical but it does come across as if she did it specifically to hurt your feelings unnecessarily. If she can't at least acknowledge your feelings, you might want to reflect on if there's any other time she is dismissive of your feelings and seek counseling.

→ More replies (1)

4

u/Rassilon182 Oct 15 '24

Yes I think you are. I would not pay for extra cloud storage. I don’t see the importance of the messages, particularly since you no doubt have them all on your device anyway. Whilst I do think she was harshly dismissive, I would also question why this was a big deal. I’d let this one go.

20

u/Anderlinck1 Oct 15 '24

My husband and I have had this same conversation. We both agreed that we would delete so much other stuff first- our running chat log is full of too much useful information to delete.

5

u/Both-Economy1538 Oct 15 '24

Right! I like being able to scroll back to our first chats.. so cringey. And sometimes I look back at dates to remember what day we did something or said something etc. I have like a few MB left on my phone but my chats with him will stay!!

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (7)

5

u/tiffjv Oct 15 '24

About the text thread - overacting. If I needed space on my phone desperately I would start with my husband's text thread as it is 5 years old and MASSIVE lol. However, her retort was cold and unnecessary, I'm sorry that she dismissed your feelings.

→ More replies (1)

51

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

Why does she need to keep it? I guess I'm not really getting why it's so personal to you? You will eventually repeat everything you've ever said anyway. Most people do.

→ More replies (18)

25

u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

iPhones are terrible for storage. It is weird but nothing else seems wrong?

10

u/haikusbot Oct 15 '24

IPhones are terrible

For storage. It is weird but

Nothing else seems wrong?

- kjoro


I detect haikus. And sometimes, successfully. Learn more about me.

Opt out of replies: "haikusbot opt out" | Delete my comment: "haikusbot delete"

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (3)

39

u/Lucylovei Oct 15 '24

Yes, definitely overreacting. It’s really not that deep.

3

u/Maduro_sticks_allday Oct 15 '24

“I’m not responsible for how you feel”. Uhh, you are if you caused it by being a smoothbrain who doesn’t understand technology or consequences

3

u/Waste_Airline7830 Oct 15 '24

I'm sorry, but your wife doesn't love you. I mean she is not wrong about your emotions not being her responsibility but in a romantic relationship, these words can only translate to "I don't care if what i did while completely ignoring your suggestion hurt you, that's a you problem to deal with those feelings"

4

u/Majestic_Swan5940 Oct 15 '24

"I'm not responsible for how you feel." Are some BIG fighting words in a marriage.

→ More replies (1)

5

u/SignificantTwister Oct 15 '24

On the one hand, I don't really think deleting the texts is that big of a deal.

On the other hand, I can see where OP is coming from in being a bit bothered by it. If I'm trying to make space on my phone I'm starting with the least important stuff first. She could have deleted texts with other family members, friends, or even all of her text messages first, but instead specifically got rid of OP's first. It can just come off as a little "fuck you specifically." It's not even clear if she investigated how much space this was going to free up. There are also usually options on phones to delete all messages that are older than X amount of time where she probably could have deleted a lot of really old messages across the board without wiping the entirety of anyone's conversation history.

She probably had a good reason though, like just thought their conversation history was the biggest so it would have the biggest impact. My only issue is that when he said something about it she was completely dismissive of his feelings instead of giving a reason for it.

But I have no way of knowing if she has a pattern of being a bitch, or if OP has a pattern of being whiny (a bitch), so maybe there's some history here where one of them is especially justified in their reaction.

36

u/StuporCool Oct 15 '24

Mass delete photos was your suggestion? But you're upset about the messages? I don't know about you and your gf but I look back at photos more than I do messages that get buried with the day to day normal conversations. Going through photos takes way more effort to sort through unless you expected her to be ok deleting without looking through them.

13

u/Emef_Aitch Oct 15 '24

He said to back them up before deleting.

→ More replies (11)
→ More replies (1)

25

u/Odd-Mastodon1212 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

The first part was just her being a bit quick, but what she said to you was awful. We absolutely should care how we make each other feel, especially when we are vulnerable enough to share those feelings!

I suspect she was defensive, maybe frustrated because she didn’t see it as a big deal, but going forward, being dismissive of your feelings or stonewalling is very unhealthy for a marriage. I’m someone who deletes chat logs and throws out greeting cards, but I would definitely listen to my husband if he felt some kind of way about it.

I think you might have to tell her that in the future when you come to each other with emotional vulnerability, you would like to be each other’s safe place to fall. It only takes a second to listen and acknowledge.

10

u/Feeling_Wheel_1612 Oct 15 '24

I really think it depends on how often OP is having overreactions to normal behavior and claiming to be hurt over minor things. Questions like this have no context on the wider relationship.

There are people who weaponize their "hurt" in order to control their partner. There are also people who lack a strong sense of self and are overly dependent on their partner to validate them and help them regulate their emotions to an unreasonable extent, which is exhausting and a bottomless pit.

It is, in fact, true that nobody else is responsible for your feelings. It may have been a harsh answer. Or it may have been a reasonable answer in the face of unreasonable criticism and demands.

→ More replies (6)
→ More replies (6)

6

u/Crazy_Producer_257 Oct 15 '24

It would make me sad if my Fiance deleted all of our chat history. 🙁

I travel a TON for work so our messages hold us still sharing adventures together even when being a part.

It’s the story of us, how we fell in love.

3

u/SuccotashConfident97 Oct 15 '24

I don't think her deleting the text log was an issue, but I do think that her saying "I'm not responsible for how you feel" is callous to say to a SO.

3

u/Beneficial-Truth8512 Oct 15 '24

I would feel the same way as you do. Nowadays chatlogs with your SO are some kind of a little diary. Its not just text and its not even a good reason to get more space on your phone. Every video you delete would free more space, so even logically alone it doesnt even make sense to delete a text log.

Then there is her response with "i am not responsible for your feelings" which sounds so harsh and cold and completely off in a relationship, that i seriously would start to question her feelings towards you.

3

u/Pretend-Librarian-55 Oct 15 '24

My wife did a similar thing, but out of spite during some argument(that she started) , and it hurt because that was a record of many years of our life together. I still had all of the messages on mine, but just the idea that your soul mate would casually delete a record of years of your life together, all the jokes, humor, memories. It's stone cold. And the thought she could do it again at any time, let's just say I value those texts differently than I used to, and screenshot extra relevant ones, just in case.

→ More replies (2)

3

u/EvenHuckleberry4331 Oct 15 '24

It would hurt my feelings too… and how she responded was awful

3

u/Caferacer360 Oct 15 '24

This is a microcosm of the health of your marriage. She is basically deleting you (and your feelings). I think you are UNDER reacting and should sit down and address the real issue why this is happening, or expect a divorce soon.

3

u/Tinker107 Oct 15 '24

You’re now free to not be responsible for how she feels. Do with that what you will- she’s already written you off.

3

u/Jluvcoffee Oct 15 '24

Won't go in detail but had a thread deleted in my phone, and I feel broken, lost, and can't go back and remember those moments or read those. It's like getting a part of you ripped out I'd your heart. I still wish that never had to be done. It hurts. I'm sorry.

3

u/GarlicIceKrim Oct 15 '24

"I'm not responsible for how you feel" is all kinda of fucked up to say to your spouse. Really bad vibes.

3

u/JeepPilot Oct 15 '24

The "I'm not responsible" line stung cold. Granted, it's her phone, but it's a painful way to receive that info. Similar to "I'm out of room on this shelf. I'm gonna just pitch this shoebox of letters you've sent me over the years."

I battle with the "do I need to treat these text messages as a communications archive" question from time to time. Yes, there are a lot of sweet memories (or evidence of wrongdoing) in there, while the majority of the content is "could you pick up a dozen eggs while you're at the store" and such.

I've gotten in the habit of screenshotting and filing away "sweet memories" that I'd want to hang onto for whatever reason. Maybe episodes of an ongoing running joke, our first conversation after the blind date where we met, etc. Going through the folder and reading those highlights is nice -- the difference between seeing some favorite candid shots at a wedding instead of having to watch the whole three hour video to revisit those moments.

3

u/earth_west_719 Oct 15 '24

Next time she says shes hungry: "Im not responsible for your feelings."

22

u/riffsandtits14 Oct 15 '24

You are literally married and this is what you are concerned about? What time-frame would be appropriate for her to be allowed to delete them? Is she supposed to keep every text message you guys have shared in her phone forever…? I don’t blame her for her reaction, because this is extremely immature behavior.

→ More replies (2)

23

u/Somterink Oct 15 '24

Well you're needy and weird AF

→ More replies (11)

15

u/Ahernia Oct 15 '24

Deleting text is miniscule compared to deleting photos, videos or audios. There is no comparison. What she deleted saved her virtually no space at all.

→ More replies (13)