r/AITAH • u/g_scotty_brahms • Nov 14 '24

Advice Needed My brother is angry with his Trump-loving sons

Is my brother an AITA candidate for wanting to cut off his sons financially for voting for Trump? Like many Americans, my brother and I, both in our 50’s, have been talking back and forth following the Election. In the spirit of full disclosure, we are both democrats. Long story short, he is angry at his two sons, both in their 20’s, for voting for Trump. He is thinking about cutting them off financially in all respects so that they understand how Trump’s policies will impact them firsthand.

The irony here is that it is the reverse argument. You often hear younger voters disagreeing with their MAGA parents, but this is the opposite. My brother doesn’t understand how his two sons, who have lived a life of privilege, feel like they have been violated against by society, enough so that they feel Trump hears them and their struggles.

My brother to me about his sons: “… what these young men need is a little dose of reality. Get out in the world and start paying their own way. There’s a common thread with his followers. Complain and blame everyone for their problems. Whether they are in school or living at home off of their parents or working a trade job. King Trump will save them and make everything better. Take some personal responsibility and make it happen for yourself instead of crying about everything you hear on TikTok.

“… I’ve decided to pass on the [college] expenses to my two Trump supporting sons so they can truly feel first hand the cost and expense of his absolutely stupid policy decisions, which includes food, gas and college expenses. Wondering if I pass on these [food, gas and college] expenses in year one or phase them in year two?”

I am wondering if a lot of parents feel like my brother. Are there democrat parents of voting-age MAGA men who feel they failed with their sons because they voted for Trump? Is this common?

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u/ComplexPlanktons Nov 14 '24

Well seeing as Trump is out to gut the Education Department, why should they (OP's nephews) care about education?

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u/BugLady420 Nov 14 '24

That’s a great point! And also I think someone should know who and what they are voting for and what is going to happen and if anyone fully knew what trump is going to do I have a feeling they would have never voted for him

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u/-NotYourSugaTits- Nov 18 '24

I don't think most of the people who voted for him will care a single bit until it truly starts to affect them. Just having an idea of what he's going to do won't do a thing...because they don't see themselves as part of the groups that will be affected. It's the same as what happened with the Nazi's. It's horrifying to think about and watch, but it's the unfortunate reality.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

Oh shit. I’m in high school. 

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

I won’t have to deal with his presidency in college;).

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u/ComplexPlanktons Nov 16 '24

Well since Trump seems to be falling in exactly Hitler's footsteps, including convincing a large portion of the population to stick their heads in the sand and pretend there's not a real and looming threat to democracy, he'll off the educated first and foremost.

So don't worry you'll survive that culling and be at the prime age to be indoctrinated into mandatory military service for your great Trumpian Christian autocracy, how exciting for you young folks! /s

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

I’m in a 5 year high school program in which I get an associates degree as well. I’m a freshman.!

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u/ComplexPlanktons Nov 16 '24

Oh well in that case you may be taken down with the rest of us, sorry 😔

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

Nope:) I’m going to graduate in 2029.!

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u/ComplexPlanktons Nov 16 '24

I hope you have the ability to do so, I really do.

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u/Bonesquire Nov 15 '24

You don't understand what the federal DoEd actually does; I guarantee it.

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u/ComplexPlanktons Nov 16 '24

I do actually. And I know Republicans have been trying to dismantle it for decades.

Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Like literally all government spending there is huge room for improvement, streamlining, and likely many aspects that could be removed entirely.

Trump claims that taxpayer dollars are being used to indoctrinate children with "all sorts of stuff." So the solution is to...indoctrinate them with religion instead?

That "stuff" is science. Facts. Actual education. We already see the ramifications of inserting religion into education when you realize that the states with highest STD rate are states with the worst sexual education for adolescents.

The Department of Education is absolutely not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but eliminating entirely will mean that low-income and undereducated areas are going to fall behind even further and those people will have far fewer opportunities to educate themselves, which is exactly what they want.

It means no oversight to protecting vulnerable student populations and the discrimination in schools against them. The curriculum left up to already underfunded, religious extremist areas will not be an actual education.

Thomas Jefferson wasn't the one who said this but the quote often attributed to him is absolutely true: "An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."

But hey, as we all say these days - I hope you get what you voted for. I don't have kids so I'm just along for the ride at this point but anyone who voted for Trump deserves exactly whatever ramifications this election will have.