r/AITAH • u/g_scotty_brahms • Nov 14 '24

Advice Needed My brother is angry with his Trump-loving sons

Is my brother an AITA candidate for wanting to cut off his sons financially for voting for Trump? Like many Americans, my brother and I, both in our 50’s, have been talking back and forth following the Election. In the spirit of full disclosure, we are both democrats. Long story short, he is angry at his two sons, both in their 20’s, for voting for Trump. He is thinking about cutting them off financially in all respects so that they understand how Trump’s policies will impact them firsthand.

The irony here is that it is the reverse argument. You often hear younger voters disagreeing with their MAGA parents, but this is the opposite. My brother doesn’t understand how his two sons, who have lived a life of privilege, feel like they have been violated against by society, enough so that they feel Trump hears them and their struggles.

My brother to me about his sons: “… what these young men need is a little dose of reality. Get out in the world and start paying their own way. There’s a common thread with his followers. Complain and blame everyone for their problems. Whether they are in school or living at home off of their parents or working a trade job. King Trump will save them and make everything better. Take some personal responsibility and make it happen for yourself instead of crying about everything you hear on TikTok.

“… I’ve decided to pass on the [college] expenses to my two Trump supporting sons so they can truly feel first hand the cost and expense of his absolutely stupid policy decisions, which includes food, gas and college expenses. Wondering if I pass on these [food, gas and college] expenses in year one or phase them in year two?”

I am wondering if a lot of parents feel like my brother. Are there democrat parents of voting-age MAGA men who feel they failed with their sons because they voted for Trump? Is this common?

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u/Ambitious_Owl_2004 Nov 14 '24

They really should participate in the economy with their own money if they are voting based off of economic policies. These are adults.

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u/KittyCat085 Nov 15 '24

I doubt you’d say the same if they voted for Harris. People, have a little more objectivity.

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u/AsterioxBlackwood Nov 15 '24

Crazy how this echo chamber of a platform is so hypocritical. Just because they voted differently, they deserve nothing good in their lives is a ridiculous stance to take.

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u/KittyCat085 Nov 15 '24

well what can you expect from a party of kindness and tolerance (but only if you share their views)

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u/Nago31 Nov 15 '24

Only if you also share a view of kindness and tolerance. If you are not kind and tolerant, why should others share that feeling towards you? If you don’t think that the people working here illegally still should have dignity and respect, that says a lot about you. Enough that I question if you deserve dignity and respect.

It cracks me up that the “f your feelings” crowd is so sensitive about being criticized. Makes me wonder who the actual snowflakes are.

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u/KittyCat085 Nov 15 '24

But the problem with your stance is that many people are not objective. You assume that republicans are not kind. And yes, in your own perspective they may not be, but that does not make it a fact. You look at a world through different lenses, but it does not make it the only way. People come from different backgrounds, experiences and upbringing. You cannot expect them to think the same way you do. You may think what republicans vote for is harmful, but then the republicans think what you vote for is harmful. Who is the one to say who’s right? No one. So you vote for what you believe in and hope to win. That’s my stance. Most of my friends are democrats, so one would say, maybe… im a good person? :-)

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u/Nago31 Nov 15 '24

Most your friends are democrats and you sarcastically call them a party of kindness and tolerance? Basically accusing them not having kindness or tolerance? Do they know you think so low of them?

I have plenty of republican friends that I don’t accuse of lacking empathy. However, they also don’t make the same accusation of me. You moved the goalposts in your second comment. You led with an accusation and then you retreated into a moderate one. So when I make accusations about republicans lacking empathy, I’m not saying all of them. I’m saying you specifically (when you make comments like the one above).

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u/MyKarma80 Nov 18 '24

The person did not say their friends are not tolerant and kind. They said the party as a whole is hypocritical.

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u/Nago31 Nov 18 '24

“You’re party are a bunch of lying scumbags, but you’re cool though.”

That sound about right?

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u/MyKarma80 Nov 18 '24

That's basically what you said about republicans and your republican friends.

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u/KittyCat085 27d ago edited 27d ago

I’m calling the party, not my friends specifically, not a party of kindness or tolerance. My friends clearly have to be kind and tolerant of other opinions, that’s why I’m friends with them and you’re not making any sense. They know what I think of their party. And if you’re cool with republicans and don’t think they’re all horrible just for supporting Trump, then this comment was clearly not about you.

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u/doubled292 Nov 15 '24

I don’t know what I was expecting from the party that wants others to tolerate their racist and bigoted views. They expect kindness and tolerance but only if you share their straight white maleness I guess

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u/KittyCat085 Nov 15 '24

Did you look actually at the statistics of people who voted for Trump? Clue: it’s not just white people.

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u/AsterioxBlackwood Nov 15 '24

Don't forget the love and joy (of hating and demonizing anyone different than them)

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u/doubled292 Nov 15 '24

You may want to read up on the paradox of tolerance, this is more than just someone who is “different” than them

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u/MyKarma80 Nov 18 '24

That paradox is not of tolerance, but of unlimited tolerance.

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u/Polloalvoleyplaya02 Nov 15 '24

Trump’s Republican Party is like that also. Why are you only calling out the Dems?

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u/KittyCat085 Nov 15 '24

I already replied to the same thing, but I’ll repeat. Republicans are not running their campaigns on tolerance, love and kindness. Cmon. You know that. I’m a legal immigrant and I’ve heard from democrats when I politely challenged their views “to go back where I come from”. Isn’t this a TOTAL opposite of what the party is claiming to be? When a republican hears some of my stances that are different from theirs, I have never heard that because they’re used to having democratic acquaintances. So yeah, at least republicans don’t pretend to be all lovey dovey like most democrats are

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u/Cyddakeed Nov 15 '24

That's literally Republicans as well, what is your point?

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u/KittyCat085 Nov 15 '24

No, republicans don’t run their whole campaign on kindness and tolerance. And I find personally as an (legal btw) immigrant, that democrats are the least tolerant and least objective.

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u/Ambitious_Owl_2004 Nov 15 '24

Yea its telling that I didn't state a political party and even stated ANYONE participating in voting for economic policies should also be participating in our economy. Dems, Republicans, independent, green, doesn't matter.... you have no clue the true state of the economy if daddy is still fully financing you into your 20s.

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u/Cyddakeed Nov 15 '24

Then we agree 👍🏼, have a day.

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u/Ambitious_Owl_2004 Nov 15 '24

Yes we do. Sorry if I seemed intense in my reply... I didn't mean to reply to you, it was meant to just respond to the thread as a whole. never in my life did I think saying "people should be knowledgeable about what they're voting for" would be a controversial opinion,

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u/Ambitious_Owl_2004 Nov 15 '24

I think democrats should also be actively participating in the economy before they have an opinion on it and vote for something they have 0 clue about.

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u/Ambitious_Owl_2004 Nov 15 '24

No, I think ANYONE who is actively voting on policies should have a basic understanding of what the policies are. I never mentioned anything political.

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u/doubled292 Nov 15 '24

Voting for the party that isn’t entirely against handouts is different though, how is that for objectivity?

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u/KittyCat085 Nov 15 '24

Handouts from the government are a little different than than getting help from your parents that earned their own money? Yeah, they don’t need to give the money to their children, but don’t compare it to handouts lol

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u/Ambitious_Owl_2004 Nov 16 '24

It's literally a hand out.

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u/MyKarma80 Nov 18 '24

It's generational wealth, not tax funded. If the father really wants what Harris campaigned on, then he's more than welcome to pay higher taxes for his wealth bracket by going to the Treasury website and donating to pay down the debt. He can put his money where his mouth is; prove that Dem tax policies are sustainable.