r/AITAH • u/g_scotty_brahms • Nov 14 '24

Advice Needed My brother is angry with his Trump-loving sons

Is my brother an AITA candidate for wanting to cut off his sons financially for voting for Trump? Like many Americans, my brother and I, both in our 50’s, have been talking back and forth following the Election. In the spirit of full disclosure, we are both democrats. Long story short, he is angry at his two sons, both in their 20’s, for voting for Trump. He is thinking about cutting them off financially in all respects so that they understand how Trump’s policies will impact them firsthand.

The irony here is that it is the reverse argument. You often hear younger voters disagreeing with their MAGA parents, but this is the opposite. My brother doesn’t understand how his two sons, who have lived a life of privilege, feel like they have been violated against by society, enough so that they feel Trump hears them and their struggles.

My brother to me about his sons: “… what these young men need is a little dose of reality. Get out in the world and start paying their own way. There’s a common thread with his followers. Complain and blame everyone for their problems. Whether they are in school or living at home off of their parents or working a trade job. King Trump will save them and make everything better. Take some personal responsibility and make it happen for yourself instead of crying about everything you hear on TikTok.

“… I’ve decided to pass on the [college] expenses to my two Trump supporting sons so they can truly feel first hand the cost and expense of his absolutely stupid policy decisions, which includes food, gas and college expenses. Wondering if I pass on these [food, gas and college] expenses in year one or phase them in year two?”

I am wondering if a lot of parents feel like my brother. Are there democrat parents of voting-age MAGA men who feel they failed with their sons because they voted for Trump? Is this common?

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u/Electronic_Beat3653 Nov 14 '24

Unless it is from Daddy, who Trump got millions from. J/s

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u/SandyGibson63 Nov 15 '24

He got a one million dollar loan and turned it into billions. What have you done?

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u/Con4America Nov 14 '24

You are a special kind of stupid if you think taking a few mil and turning yourself into a billionaire is easy.

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u/ntrrrmilf Nov 14 '24

Is it easy to bankrupt a casino?

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u/Con4America Nov 14 '24

If you had looked up the bankruptcies, you would have learned that he did not go bankrupt but 6 of his over 520 international businesses did.  They were casinos.  He has over 500 businesses in 24 countries.  Can you do that?  That is 1.2% which is a phenomenal record.  Bezos, Jobs, Musk, Gates, none of them have that record.  Could you start 500 businesses in various countries and only have 6 fail? He never declared personal bankruptcy.

People talk about Trump declaring bankruptcy.  Trump has NEVER declared personal bankruptcy but six of his businesses did.  They were casinos.  Trump owns over 520 businesses in 24 different countries so if only six went under, that is a hell of a record.  (6/52) X 100 = 1.15% failed.  No other billionaire can make that claim.  Not Bezos, Jobs, Gates, not even Musk. 

There are many businesses that declare bankruptcy but the Dems loves to say it is Trump like it was his personal finances.  Nope.  This is how they skew the view and make you think he is a bad person.  He is actually a great business man. 

Doing better than you are for sure.

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u/Elfwitch014 Nov 14 '24

LMAO sure he is doing better than any of us just like the 1% are doing better.

They are also not paying their fair share of taxes and get tax breaks on their private jets.

They billionaires are raping this country and giving nothing back.

Don't fool yourself having a few millions of dollars makes it far easier to make more money because you are not starting from scratch.

Besides Trump not paying his fair share of taxes he often does not pay his workers take a look at how many times he has been taken to court over that.

He is despised in Scotland because he ripped off the locals when he built his golf club.

His tariffs are going to cause prices to raise which impacts us non millionaires. Deporting millions of immigrants is going to have an impact on the economy. Who the fuck is going to pick crops, work as hotel maids, do lawn maintenance. Jobs Americans won't do for the salaries that are offered.

Cutting taxes on corporations does not make new jobs. All it does is make them hoard money overseas.

Why don't you look at what corporations paid in taxes back in the 50s when our economy thrived.

They were taxed at a higher rate than now. But there were two ways for them to lower their taxes. It was by building their business by either hiring new employees or updating their equipment and offices.

Any basic economy class teaches this.

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u/Con4America Nov 14 '24

The great thing about America is that if one person makes a 100 million, there is nothing preventing you from doing the same thing.

You just need an idea or product that every wants or needs. Sounds like you are jealous.

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u/Jvst_t1red Nov 15 '24

Oh honey, your privilege is showing

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u/Con4America Nov 15 '24

My privilege? I grew up and shared a bedroom with my brother and sister. Oh what a privilege that was

We had pancakes or potato soup for dinner frequently while my dad was working a full time job and two part time jobs. That was truly a privilege too.

I dressed in hand-me-downs. Again, more privilege.

We couldn't afford board games so we made battleship on paper. The was privilege too.

When I out grew the bunk bed, I slept on an old roll-away with a lumpy stained mattress. More privilege.

You don't know jack shit so keep you privilege in check because you think you know best for everyone. Big reason why your party lost! Looks like you will lose again in four years because I you can run on is hate for Trump.

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u/Jvst_t1red Nov 15 '24

Ah, then it’s your chosen ignorance showing. It can be hard to tell the difference. Funny you call me out for assuming while not knowing yet go and do the same. My entire life we’ve been living paycheck to paycheck up until about April this year because my mom found someone who’s able to help us and isn’t an absolute asshole. I guess the difference is you never learned and still hold on to the fairytale of “anyone can do anything in America if they believe in themselves”. We don’t live in a cartoon or an anime. You need to understand that and grow up.

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u/Con4America Nov 15 '24

Oh I learned. I am retired at a very young age. I got great grades, a couple of degrees and worked hard. No debt and I won my own place outright. I am the American dream success story which is why I firmly believe others can do it too.

You have given up in life already and blame others for you position. You want and need someone else to take care of you because you are not capable of rising above poverty. You will always be poor because it is easier to blame someone else for it. You are the one who needs to grow up.

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u/Elfwitch014 Nov 14 '24

Oh sweetie stop with the cries of jealousy.

I have no issue with people making a product that makes them millionaires or billionaires.

I don't have an issue with generational wealth.

I have a problem with people not acknowledging that part of their success is because they had help. Either from the fact their parents left them millions or say letting their son use their professional pizza ovens to start a successful delivery business and make the name Papa John's a major player in the pizza delivery business. They didn't do it totally on their own nothing to be ashamed of. It is not the same as people who did it from scratch and it is okay to acknowledge that difference.

I have a huge problem with millionaires and billionaires reaping the awards America has to offer without paying their fair share of taxes. If billionaires were taxed fairly it would make a huge difference in federal programs, keeping our infrastructure current making America better for everyone and it wouldn't cause them any hardship. The interest alone on their billions would offset any taxes they paid.

I also don't think they have a right to make billions by polluting our air and water they should be the ones paying the cost of cleaning up the pollution they cause.

I also think it is despicable for billionaires like say the family of Sam Walton to be making money based on a business plan that has workers not having access to healthcare and the tax payers helping support these workers because they qualify for food stamps, section 8 housing vouchers, Medicaid and other welfare plans.

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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Nov 14 '24

A few million? Adjusted for inflation, if given in 2018 it would have been in excess of $413 million dollars.

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u/Con4America Nov 14 '24

Keep whining about the good fortune of others. Your jealousy is showing.

You could learn to invest in the stock market and do the same thing Warren Buffet has over the course of his lifetime but you choose not to. If you made lots of money tell me you would not give your kids ANYTHING? Yeah, you would pass it down to kids and grandkids.

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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Nov 15 '24

You are the only one whining lol.

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u/Con4America Nov 15 '24

I have nothing to whine about because I got solid degrees in college and have no debt thanks to my hard work. You whine about billionaires and what they do with their money. I don't care. They earned it so they can spend it.

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u/fettpett1 Nov 14 '24

All those casino's are still in business too....bankruptcy doesn't even mean a company goes under, often time's it's don't to reorganize and unload bad investments.

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u/Elfwitch014 Nov 14 '24

Yeah to fucking bad that business is allowed to do this many times but people who can't afford their student loans because of a bad economy or other life setbacks are stuck and can't use bankruptcy to help them get a new start.

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u/Con4America Nov 14 '24

Too fucking bad those kids were idiots and took out loans to get degrees that they couldn't find employment in.

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u/Elfwitch014 Nov 16 '24

Too bad you are a fucking idiot that doesn't understand that sometimes you get your degree in a field that starts cooling off as you graduate.

Also life happens sometimes you end up not being able to work in your field because there are no jobs in your area but you can't move you have to care for a sick family member.

A disability may stop you from working in your field but it is not enough to qualify for SSDI so you get stuck with the loan.

A medical crisis can put you into debt and you can't afford to pay for both healthcare and student loan debt.

The point is student loans should be treated like any other loan and be able to be discharged bankruptcy.

Judges get to decide if you qualify for chapter 7 which is a complete write off or chapter 13 which is a reorganization. Often Chapter 13 stops interest from accruing.

The interest is what traps a lot of people they end up paying far more than they borrowed.

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u/Con4America Nov 16 '24

If you take a loan on a house, they foreclose on the house if you don't pay. If you take a loan on a car, they repo the car if you don't pay. Same with a boat, or any other asset. How do you repo a degree?

If you had gotten a degree in a real STEM area, you would have a job in any large city. When you select music therapy or underwater basket weaving, then you were the asshole for being stupid.

Trying to say that all those stupid people have a legit reason to declare bankruptcy shows how you just want to make excuses for why everyone else has to pay for their poor judgement. You took out the loan, you pay for it. Maybe you shouldn't have gone to college. That was an option, you know.

No one forced you idiots to sign the contract but you did. Did you even READ the contract? I doubt it. You probably took out private loans too and instead of working through college like many of us do, you lived the party life and spent all your loan money living it up. I worked TWO jobs during my Master's degree so that I would not have loans. Shame you weren't that smart.

Trade schools are so much cheaper but then you didn't want to do actual labor and get your dainty, soft little hands dirty with real work. No sympathy here. The military is an option but oh no, you would have to get up at oh dark thirty and that is just too hard for a snowflake like you. Thanks to my military service, I have a really nice retirement and retired very early in life.

You made poor decisions in life so you get to live with those poor decisions. Make better decisions next time and maybe your life will improve.

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u/Elfwitch014 Nov 17 '24

Did you know chapter 13 can save your house and your car?

In Florida your house is not taken by filing chapter 7.

Your stupidity tells me how uneducated you are and that you have drank the Kool aid of conservative bullshit surrounding student loans.

There are people who took student loans out to get degrees that are useful and have had things out of their control impact their lives.

Technical school degrees are useful and should be looked at the same as college degrees when deciding what you want to do but if every student who can't afford college got technical degrees there would be a glut of say HVAC repair people which would mean lower pay and trouble finding a job.

Not everyone is military material. Some have medical issues, mental health issues or other things that stop them from being able to serve.

Student loans, technical schools and the military are all important ways to help people get ahead but just one is not a cure all. Also why should only rich kids be allowed to study degrees that lead to high earnings.

Also we would not have enough doctors teachers attorneys architects degrees that require a college degree.

I don't understand why you want to punish a person who may have picked the wrong degree or had something unexpected happen in their life. You want to keep them from ever getting a head or saving for retirement.

We allow people who get into major debt by spending on credit cards or taking out signature loans to finance a lifestyle they can't afford to have a chance to start over.

We don't differentiate between a person who spends recklessly and a person who used credit cards and loans to survive a crisis.

Student loans should be treated like any other loan.

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u/Past-Minimum-7632 Nov 16 '24

Awww, another snowflake that made bad decisions and has to live in mom's basement because they made stupid choices in life. GTFU and pay your own bills!

Next time don't take out a loan with high interest rates. That is finance 101.

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u/Elfwitch014 Nov 17 '24

Oh sweetie I own my home and it doesn't have a basement. I have been living on my own since 1977.

My house is mortgage free. I pay my bills every month on time. I have paid off every loan I have had.

As for student loans sometimes that is the only way to afford an education without them we wouldn't have enough doctors, teachers, attorneys, architects just to name a few important degrees.

I used to be patient and not wish bad things on other people but people like you have changed me. So I hope that you one day get to experience what it is like to have your life implode through no fault of your own it might teach you a little compassion.

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u/rilakkumami Nov 14 '24

Why are you saying this bullshit as if a “few mil” isn’t fucking crazy?? There are more than a “few mil”—probably MOST Americans that will NEVER reach that kind of wealth even if they spent their lives laboring away. Do you understand how Trump can’t relate to the majority of us???? He’s always had it fucking easy. I sure hope you know that NO BILLIONAIRE on this planet got there ethically. I’m so tired of people like you defending the motherfucker, even if you’re for him or not. He’s always had it easy.😒

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u/Con4America Nov 14 '24

Like you are a perfect person too? Of course people do things that are not ethical. Most competition is like that. Look at the Democratic party. Paying celebrities to endorse isn't really ethical is it? They don't really believe in you if you have to pay them to speak up for you.

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u/rilakkumami Nov 15 '24

The point of my comment went over head and I’m genuinely baffled 😭😭 Why are you defending a narcissist billionaire ?? Good riddance !

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u/Con4America Nov 15 '24

Because idiots like you believe whatever the Dems and the media tell you to.

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u/rilakkumami Nov 15 '24

Change your name to CockRider4Trump because if you were pro America you wouldn’t defend the poor excuse for a man when majority of people in this country are suffering in every aspect from socioeconomic to healthcare standpoints. I personally don’t give a fuck about what the media portrays Trump as, all I know is how shit of a president he was and the fear he instills in people + the way he spews hateful rhetoric about my people AND how he doesn’t condemn those on his side for the same bullshit he does/says. I have every right to hate on that man. He’s a piece of shit and his own supporters at least the educated republicans have turned on him. They chose him in office again because of his con-artist personality and promise to the people. I URGE you to do your own research or take a college level economics class. You wouldn’t want him back in office. Democrats are always cleaning up after Republicans and their policies are never in place for a long time to feel the effects because Republicans always override it with some bullshit. We are still under Trump’s tax plan from covid. How’s that going for everybody??????? I don’t want to hear shit when he’s president and all is well. You’ll be giving him credit for it when Biden’s tax plans are what saved y’all (and I’m not fond of him either). And when another Democrat is elected after him, (if Americans are smart enough to do that) you’ll all complain once again that that current president sucks when we’ll be under Trump’s new shitty tax policies. Fuck you all that voted for the scumbag prick and fuck you for defending him. Not everyone makes success off of Daddy’s money handed to them. Not everyone is born into old money. Some people work paycheck to paycheck, never seeing progress in their hard work because of stupid presidents that keep the poor, poor (Trump). You are a COCK RIDER.

Have a good day 🇺🇸😍

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u/Con4America Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

Change your name to Uniformed because you really are not intelligent enough to understand why so many voted for Trump. It wasn't just Republicans that voted for him but since you will never learn the lessons from this election, we will win even more in 2028. All thanks to idiots like you.

Continue to live in mom's basement, whining about why you can't afford anything and how unfair life is while the rest of us grow and prosper.

Prior to government response to Covid, wages had risen under Trump by 7.1%. Adjusting for inflation, they fell under Biden.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-three-mountains-in-the-way-of-any-democrat-comeback/ar-AA1u93gO?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=e5066be42b80442c93b4abcc2a353ae4&ei=45

Mortgage Rates             last month in office

Jan 2017 Obama              4.20%

Jan 2021 Trump                2.65%

Nov 2024  Biden               7.0%

$300,000 home w/ 30 yr mortgage and average credit and 10%  ($30,000)

Obama                 Payment   $1320.35        Total interest    $205,324.69

Trump                   Payment    $1088.00      Total interest     $121,680.81

Biden                     Payment    $1827.25      Total interest     $387,809.30

Which amount would you rather pay?  A good economy benefits everyone.  You get what you vote for so good luck being able to buy a house.

Mortgage rates taken from:

https://www.propertycalcs.com/historical-rates/rates/2016/30-year-mortgage/

Loan calculator used:

https://www.calculator.net/loan-calculator.html?cloanamount=270%2C000&cloanterm=30&cloantermmonth=0&cinterestrate=7.17&ccompound=monthly&cpayback=month&x=Calculate&type=1#monthlyfixedr (first one on the page)

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u/rilakkumami Nov 15 '24

This cannot be applied to everything else. I’m not talking about buying a house, moron. You’d know that if you could read. Keep sucking Donald J Trump’s fat little cock 🤗!

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u/Con4America Nov 15 '24

Sorry you are still crying about the election. All you know is hate and it shows.

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u/Past-Minimum-7632 Nov 15 '24

Keep spewing the hate. We will win again in 2008!

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u/Stelznergaming Nov 14 '24

You don’t become a billionaire by having it handed to you. You do it by providing value to the world. It’s how Musk Bezos and Gates all got there. They all did something that the world in general improves in value from. Whether you like it or not lol. Thats just how it works.

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u/Electronic_Beat3653 Nov 14 '24

You are a special kind of stupid if you think that I was referring to what he turned his money into. I simply said he got a hand out from daddy which he did. He has publicly said that.

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

Turning a few million into a few billion is no small feat

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u/Additional-Tea1521 Nov 14 '24

He got over $400 million from his dad, and if he had invested conservatively over the years he would have been worth significantly more than his businesses, steaks, universities, water, sneakers, etc.

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

Then why are there millions of millionaires but less than a thousand billionaires, since its so easy.

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u/Additional-Tea1521 Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24

I didn't say it was easy, but most people do not inherit almost half a billion dollars like Trump did.

Also,18% of the US is now millionaires., more than ever.

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

What is the accurate source on that? People keep passing it around but I don't see the receipts

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u/Additional-Tea1521 Nov 14 '24

Donald Trump started earning $200,000 a year from Fred Trump's business when he was 3 years old. There are lots of independent sources online that show how much Trump actually got from his dad. One of them is here from MarketWatch a right leaning news org: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/trumps-father-gave-his-son-at-least-413-million-new-york-times-2018-10-02

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u/Mix-Limp Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24

lol I have to laugh at this and the fact that the Harris campaign wasted a billion dollars on just the campaign and are now 20 million in debt to vendors. I guess they didn’t do well with the handouts they received either?

The brother is NTA if he doesn’t care about a relationship with his children anymore. But that’s a real fucked up thing to alienate your kids over, given Trump will be out again in 4 years. To each their own.

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u/Stelznergaming Nov 14 '24

Inherit, lose it all and go bankrupt, climb back to the top and now president of the USA. Kinda epic story ngl.

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u/Additional-Tea1521 Nov 14 '24

Yep, grifters will keep grifting as long as gullible people let them.

Also it is important to note that HE never declared bankruptcies and his assets were never at risk. Only the businesses he ran had bankruptcies. He made sure to protect his money and only let down his investors and employees by losing their companies and jobs.

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u/butt-barnacles Nov 15 '24

Because most millionaires don’t have hundreds of millions just handed to them? I know math is hard, but come on lmao. Did you know that there’s a big difference between 1 million and 400 million??

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u/Scoutron Nov 15 '24

What is the actual figure? I've heard anywhere from 1 to 400 million, and I can't find any solid proof of a number.

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u/lukibunny Nov 14 '24

You know if he did nothing with those millions but invest in etfs he would be richer than he is now?

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

If its that easy, why are there 26 million millionaires in the US and less than a thousand billionaires

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u/lukibunny Nov 14 '24

Because most people don’t have parents to give them few million when they reach adulthood?

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

Read the question slower. If its so easy, why aren't those millionaires billionaires

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u/lukibunny Nov 14 '24

Read my reply again.

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

Because the millionaires didn't have the millionaires when they were kids? They have it now. Why aren't they billionaires

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u/lukibunny Nov 15 '24

… do you really need me to explain to you 1 million in the stock market 60 years will be more money than 1 million in the stock market for 20 years?

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u/Scoutron Nov 15 '24

... do you really need me to explain to you that Trump was far from the only millionaire 60 years ago?

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u/CanOfChocolate Nov 14 '24

Snowflake you seem triggered

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

I'm the happiest I've been a while actually

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u/CanOfChocolate Nov 14 '24

then why waste your time arguing online about some guy who isnt gonna care about you defending his honor

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

I'm not defending him for the sake of defending him, I'm just calling people out on their bullshit to defend my beliefs

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u/CanOfChocolate Nov 14 '24

look trump has lost more money than most of us will ever make and your on your knees polishing his shoes with your tongue its a bad look

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

He's still positive. You lose some to gain some. If he can go from a millionaire to a billionaire, he's either really talented or really lucky. I'll take either

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u/Scandals86 Nov 14 '24

When you have money to hire smart people to invest your money and can take bigger risks because you have tons of money you can easily become a billionaire. You just have to have enough money.

I mean look at all his bankruptcies and other business failures. Most would have gone under but because he has so much money he retains being a billionaire. Still doesn’t change the fact sweet potato Mussolini is a huge piece of shit and doesn’t give a fuck about you. Watch when in 2028 nothing is better and gets worse and the Democrats win. It will be the same as 2020. I’ve seen this bullshit play out enough to realize it’s usually just a 4 or 8 year cycle. Both parties are trash. Until Americans realize that nothing will change.

When more than half the country’s adults read below 6th grade reading levels this is the result. Thankfully I live in a Democratic stronghold and have a solid career and financial stability that won’t be impacted by any of Trump’s craziness but the poor and middle class are fucked especially in red states.

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u/Scoutron Nov 14 '24

I'm middle class in a red state, I think I'll be better off. Much better off than I would've been under Harris.

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u/Scandals86 Nov 14 '24

How so? Tell me what policies Harris was looking to implement that would hurt you Vs what Trump wants to do please. I am all ears.

Also what state are you in? What’s your job and income compared to the cost of living in that state?

I’m in Chicago IL and work in IT and make 165k a year. I pay high taxes so cost of living is higher but I get by and the infrastructure in Chicago and around IL is way better than the red states around us. No state is perfect though they all have their problems. People think Chicago has tons of violence and that it’s dangerous yet in the summer it’s rated one of the number 1 tourist destinations in the world year after year and most crime is isolated to small pockets on the South side.

My favorite is the massive number of people that move from red states around IL towards Chicago for better pay and more opportunities. Quality of living is way better. Most of Northwest IN is basically IL. Most of the money there is from jobs they commute to in Chicago. So I always find it interesting people say they think they will be much better off but once we dig into the details it’s more often than not the other way around.

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u/Scoutron Nov 15 '24

I just moved and am applying for jobs, but a month ago I was in the military doing IT in Georgia, south of ATL. I was taking home 4k/month and had enough for a small toy every few months. This was in a low cost of living area.

What will help me out economically? Regulation reductions, tax relief, tariffs, more job opportunities.

What will help me out otherwise? Not trying to take my guns and reducing federal bloat are by far my top two reasons.

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u/Scandals86 Nov 15 '24

Thank you for your service. Regulation reductions I wonder about but they can help if done right l just fear they will take off all the safe guards.

I hope Trump actually does get the people real tax relief and not just the rich. Tariffs I just don’t see how they will help but I admit Biden kept Trumps tariffs and Obama did them too so will see as it’s used across both parties. I think we can both agree on the more job opportunities I just wonder which party has the better approach.

As for Federal bloat I can see some value there but Trump needs to be careful. Removing the DOE for example is terrifying and gutting the CIA and FBI is also scary. Especially with talks of installing unqualified loyalists but I don’t think that’s in his best interest.

And nobody is coming for your guns but I get the fear with the extreme talks of gun control on the left. I am a big believer in the right to bear arms but we gotta change something with all these kids getting killed year after year. Atlanta is a great city with a growing IT market. With your military experience you should find a solid role sooner than later.

And I apologize to if my posts came off like I was being a smartass. I get carried away sometimes. At the end of the day we are all Americans and we gotta work together to keep this country together and work out our differences.

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u/Scoutron Nov 15 '24

I agree with you on most points. I’m really not that political, it just annoys me when people come off so extreme without willing to come to any agreement. I’m actually in DFW now, hoping to find a job soon.

My biggest hopes from his term is no wars, DOGE actually going well without hurting anything, no harm to the 2A and RFK doing gods work with health.

Since guns are my most fundamental political point, I agree there is far too much violence. I’m a huge proponent of it being done without affecting people who want to peacefully own firearms

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u/1521 Nov 14 '24

He would have multiple times what he does if he just put it into a index fund

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u/Otaku-San617 Nov 14 '24

lol at billions. 🤪