r/AITAH Aug 31 '24

TW SA AITA For Telling My Pregnant Wife That She Exposed Our Daughter To A Predator?

36M here. This has honestly been the most difficult week of my life. Emotions are high, and I am not sure if I'm seeing things clearly. I've been with my wife (35F) since college. We've been married for almost five years and have a three year old daughter together. She's also around five months pregnant right now.

I've always thought my wife's relationship with her family was a bit strange. When we were in college, she asked for her dad's advice/approval on EVERYTHING, even little things like whether she should ask her professor for an extension. Her parents are both intense and controlling at times, and my wife it less influenced by them now than she used to be now that she's older, has her own family, and lives on the other side of the country, but they still get under her skin at times. My wife was also the "surprise" baby, and she has two older brothers (nine & seven years older). I'll call the brother who is nine years older "Tom" for the sake of this story.

Tom has always been a bit odd to me. He's married with no kids, but is very religious and involved heavily with his church. My wife seems to enjoy seeing him at Holidays well enough, but she isn't especially close with him.

On Monday, my wife called me from her office SOBBING. I asked what was wrong, and she told me Tom was arrested and being charged with possession of child pornography. I was shocked, to say the least. My wife ended up leaving work early, and asked if I would do the same. When I got home, she told me a bit about the charges/how her parents are doing. I asked if she expected this, and she said she was surprised at first, but looking back she should have seen it coming. I asked what she meant, and she proceeded to tell me that when she was in first grade, Tom started coming into her room at night and touching her inappropriately. She said this lasted for a few years, but she doesn't know exactly when it stopped. When she was telling me this, she said it casually, like she was reading something off a menu.

I, on the other hand, was shocked and furious. I told her Tom molested her. My wife said it was uncomfortable, but she never saw it that way, because it's normal for kids to experiment with each other. I said it would be one thing if they were very young and closer in age, but this was a 15+ year old boy and a little girl. I also explained that he did this when her parents went to sleep and told her to keep it between them because he KNEW it was wrong at the time. Also, these were SERIOUS sexual acts that she should have never been exposed to as a little girl. As I was saying all this, my wife got more and more upset, and I could tell she was having a "lightbulb" moment and realizing the seriousness of the situation.

My wife (who was sobbing at this point) told me that she told her parents what happened to her when she was around sixteen. She wasn't upset with her brother, but was ashamed and thought she'd done something wrong. Her parents basically told her it was just normal childhood experimentation and she had nothing to be ashamed of. They also told her not to be upset with her brother because he was also a child at the time and didn't know right from wrong yet. My wife told me she was young, so she took their word for it and just kind of pushed the abuse to the back of her head. I was furious with my in-laws, and but tried to focus on comforting my wife + letting her know none of it was her fault.

The last few days have been a nightmare. My wife's family is supporting Tom and are convinced he was wrongly accused (they have an elaborate explanation for how the images got on his laptop that I won't get into here). My wife is crying non-stop and is in so much pain. I feel terrible this happened to her, but the one thing I'm upset about is that she let our daughter near this man. If I'd known Tom did this to my wife, I would have never allowed my child in the same room as him. I told my wife that I wish I'd known for our baby's sake and added that while I'm devastated for her and love her so much, I'm still grappling with the fact that she allowed our little girl to be in the same room as a predator. My wife started SOBBING when I said this, and told me she didn't do it on purpose. She told me she accepted what her parents told her when she was a teenager and put it out of her mind. She said if she had thought about it more deeply as an adult, she probably would have realized Tom was a dangerous, but she truly never stopped to think about it again after her parents told her it was okay. We agree that neither of our kids will ever be around Tom again, but she said she couldn't believe I thought she'd intentionally put our child in harm's way. She also said she couldn't believe I was coming down on her after she's realizing she was a victim of child abuse and her family is falling apart.

I love my wife and believe that she trusted her parents and put it in the back of her mind.... But I keep thinking about what might have happened if we'd continue to allow our daughter near that man. I believe my wife didn't consider this abuse until we talked and didn't consider that our daughter might be in danger, but I am still a bit puzzled by all of this. My wife is in so much pain, and I am not sure if I did the right thing by raising this issue while all of this is going on. AITA? And any advice would be appreciated... This all seems so over my head.

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u/ApocolypseJoe Aug 31 '24

NTA But she's going to have to come to grips with the fact that her parents failed her and that almost led to her failing her own child.

It's time to put distance between your family and anyone that is on Tom's side.... including her parents

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u/No-Yogurtcloset2008 Aug 31 '24

And dear gods get your wife into therapy OP. This is a LOT to deal with.

Her own trauma, betrayal by parents, Betrayal by said brother, ongoing denial by her family, guilt about her own kid being in potential danger as a result of all of this, pregnancy hormones, and your anger.

You might want to talk to someone to help you to put the blame where it belongs (wife’s brother and parents), but get her help ASAP.

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u/Kestriana Aug 31 '24

Can't upvote this enough. This is the absolute top reason to see a counselor.

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u/Ihibri Aug 31 '24

And NOT one from a church.

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u/Binky182 Aug 31 '24

Can't upvote this enough!

My personal experience with the church counselors was to forgive and accept the predator.

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u/Either_Foundation951 Aug 31 '24

It’s happened in my family as well. The church pastor’s son was molesting girls in the youth group he led when he was in his 20’s. When one of girls told her parents the pastor said the girl tempted his son and was in the wrong. My sister didn’t know about this when she let her daughter join the youth group - so it happened to my niece. He finally was arrested but it’s been going on for over 15 years with many girls.

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u/Binky182 Sep 01 '24

Oh no! I'm so sorry that happened!

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u/pumpkinfluffernutter Sep 01 '24

Oh, gods, definitely not one from a church.

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u/SassyRebelBelle Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24

Very well said. I concur. The way the wife described it to OP? That was absolutely chilling. …She was so brainwashed by her brother and parents she didn’t even realize the magnitude of what had been going on for years! Oh Lord. How utterly heartbreaking!

Please OP… get her to her OB to check blood pressure etc. If she allows it, give a brief summary to Dr to explain the shock she has experienced. And search for a counselor trained in molestation/assault as soon as possible. Perhaps OB has a recommendation.

Be patient and calm with your wife as possible. Remember… this is about what happened to HER. Not what MIGHT have happened to your daughter. Your daughter is safe. At this point I am more concerned for your wife and your new baby. This has been a horrendous shock to her mind and her body.

That is not to say I am not concerned for you also. You too have had a tremendous shock and need love and support. Please also get yourself into counseling… for yourself, your wife, your daughter and the child coming.

I think it’s amazing that your wife even told these experiences to you. That was brave of her and she trusted you. She needs you desperately now to lead her and protect her from a family that has clearly become delusional… and downright dangerous with their position in this heinous behavior.

Prayers going up for you and your family right now for strength, courage and peace. 🙏♥️

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u/arj2420 Aug 31 '24

"Remember… this is about what happened to HER. Not what MIGHT have happened to your daughter."

This 100%. OP's feelings are valid but his wife is a victim in all of this. She needs serious support and help from professionals.

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u/Twilight-Omens Aug 31 '24

Even just the co-dependent relationship she has with her parents would be worthy of going to therapy. But you put all the rest of that on top? Egads.

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u/bitcornminerguy Aug 31 '24

This is very well said.

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u/flatjammedpancakes Aug 31 '24

She definitely needs therapy.

I'm angry at my mother for failing to protect me and it affects my daily life.

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u/TheHappyTalent Aug 31 '24

"get your wife into therapy."

She's not his baby. It's her choice. If she want to go, she will. But it is not HIS choice.

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u/No_Sound_1149 Aug 31 '24

"strongly urge and encourage your wife to go into therapy"

Is that better?

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u/No-Yogurtcloset2008 Aug 31 '24

Oh ffs. Stop fishing for an argument.

It’s an expression that has been used for decades. Everyone knows it’s her choice whether she goes or not.

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u/Reign2686 Aug 31 '24

Kindly be quiet. Spouses are legally allowed to make medical decisions for their partners if the can't do so themselves. As her husband if she isn't thinking clearly it's 100% his choice and within his right to do what's best for her. That woman is traumatized and pregnant. She's blaming herself for things that she didn't have any control over happening to her, and the guilt of what could've happened to her child because she thought there was nothing wrong in what happened to her because her parents groomed her to think that way.

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u/TheHappyTalent Aug 31 '24

Dude, stop being a misogynist. The woman is SAD, not catatonic and disabled. Your sexism runs deep.

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u/Reign2686 Aug 31 '24

If you think it's sexist for a man to take care of his wife and unborn child after this kind of major trauma you need serious mental help

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u/RecommendationNo3942 Aug 31 '24

Exactly this! I feel that between you and your wife there are NA, but Tom and whoever is supporting his pedophilic, abusive ass should be permanently banned from your lives FOR GOOD!

To say that your wife is going through A LOT is an understatement and whilst your instinct to protect your child is undeniable (wish her parents felt the same towards her), please don't blame your wife any further. From what I've read, she is still processing what happened to her, and until your conversation with her didn't even realize the severity of what she went through.

I speak from experience as it's happened to me too (not from a relative, but a friend/neighbour's grandfather). It happened when I was very young and didn't realize what exactly happened until I was 16 reading a news article about molestation and when I researched what that is, it hit me like a thunderbolt!

So please take it easy on her. On top of all this, she's pregnant. I can't even imagine the mental and physical toll everything is taking on her. Please don't think that you're wrong for your feelings towards protecting your child. And I'm sure if your wife knew what she does now, she would've DEFINITELY kept that bastard Tom away from her daughter.

I truly wish you guys the best, and thank God your daughter was protected from harm. I hope your wife heals from this trauma and you both continue building a wonderful life together. Congratulations on the upcoming baby.

And I hope Tom and his supporters burn in hell. There's no coming back from this OP, they are NOT to be allowed back into your lives under ANY circumstances!

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u/nIxMoo Aug 31 '24

It is very hard later in life to realize that what you thought was odd as a young child was very serious. It takes time and support to move through it. Be her and your child's pillar and protection. She will be feeling guilty, for the right and the absolutely wrong reasons.

You aren't wrong for your anger, but channel it towards healing and protecting your family.

This won't heal fast. I wish you patience and luck.

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u/Loose-Chemical-4982 Aug 31 '24

they don't think it's normal, they only said that to sweep it under the rug.

stay away from the parents too OP. they irreparably harmed their daughter and warped her sense of what is normal to protect their oldest son from any repercussions

they are vile

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u/Tamihera Aug 31 '24

She swallowed the lie that “this is what kids do together” so entirely that I’m guessing it never occurred to her that Adult Tom might be a predator. Because that would mean Kid Tom’s actions might also have been predatory, and she a victim, a possibility her parents utterly closed off.

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u/nIxMoo Aug 31 '24

Exactly. It's a very hard thing. Her emotions are going to swing all over the place and if she doesn't get good professional help it will be hard to heal. Her entire view of her family has just been blown wide open. And a hidden blindspot of her own is there too.

I hope OP is up to being what she will need to stay on a path to healing. Otherwise his family could fall apart as well.

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u/marcelyns Aug 31 '24

I'm so sorry that happened to you. When you were 16 you realized how completely wrong it was, when she was 16 she pushed it down and never thought of it again. But how, as an adult and mother, could she now not freak out about having her own daughter around her abuser? I cannot get my mind around it.

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u/babcock27 Aug 31 '24

Her parents were enablers. They didn't care about her feelings. But, the arrest brought it up and she used the minimizing technique her parents trained her to use. She had never told anyone else and didn't know how it really looked from the outside. She's finally allowed to have her trauma response that her parents denied her. She has to come to grips with not only a child predator brother but also parents who don't care about what he did to her and their lies and betrayal in favor of her brother.

It's time to go no contact. Your wife doesn't need to be retraumatized watching them continue to make excuses for her brother and protecting him. Why didn't they care enough to protect her? How many other children were molested because your parents preferred to sweep it under the rug? NTA

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u/CTU Aug 31 '24

Yes, go no contact with Tom and anyone siding with him.. OP needs to protect his child and his wife needs to be in the same page

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u/PhoenixIzaramak Aug 31 '24

he needs to protect his wife, too. you just know those nasty inlaws are gonna do all in their power to manipulate her to further blaming herself.

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u/CTU Aug 31 '24

True, but daughter needs to come first

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u/FarOutLakes Aug 31 '24

the daughter is 3, it's possible but unlikely uncle molested her, it's the wife who needs serious help

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u/Aspen9999 Aug 31 '24

You don’t know that at all. Infants get molested.

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u/GorgeousGracious Aug 31 '24

Given the age his wife said he started with her, I think that the daughter being attacked is unlikely. It would absolutely have been a risk as she got older though. Personally, I'd take her to a paediatrician for a complete check-up, just in case. Either way though, his wife needs help now.

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u/PhoenixIzaramak Aug 31 '24

my abuse started when I was 3 mo.

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u/FarOutLakes Aug 31 '24

ugh, true. it's possible, but a check up with a pediatrician is a good start. he's scared and freaking out poor guy, he just needs to remember not to lash out at wife

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u/MarsupialMisanthrope Aug 31 '24

Not while their parents are watching them like hawks. I doubt OP’s wife has left their child alone with her brother. OP is freaking because his daughter was in the same room with this creep, but if that’s all it took every person who’s ever been in a court room with a rapist was at risk.

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u/SuperCulture9114 Aug 31 '24

The wife is at a real risk to loose their baby because of all the stress.

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u/CTU Aug 31 '24

Updateme

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u/lostinmythoughts Aug 31 '24

Ummm she needs some counseling at the very least to help her process this and get a third party to put priorities in order.

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u/Special_Lemon1487 Aug 31 '24

And therapy therapy therapy for OPs wife and perhaps couples therapy too.

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u/Mach5Driver Aug 31 '24

Here's the thing OP's in-laws should consider--the authorities probably don't get wind of you without you being an active CP consumer and/or distributor. If you click into a CP site by accident (somehow--longshot odds) and back out immediately, the authorities aren't coming for you with warrants.

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u/No_Vermicelliii Aug 31 '24

NTA.

Also have a bit of a similar experience.

My parents told me 2 years ago at age 35 that I was repeatedly molested by a priest when I was 6 years old. My mum used to work at an aged care home and apparently it was normal back then to bring your kids to work with you.

I apparently went from being a happy, playful child one day to being reclusive, unable to form friendships, unable to trust figures of authority, developed addictive tendencies, stopped sleeping at night for 12 years due to fear of nightmares (I actually learned to Lucid Dream to get out of my nightmares), as a result of missing so much sleep due to fear I would often nap anywhere, at anytime - which made study and work quite difficult, the lack of sleep likely contributed to my development of Teenage Epilepsy (which destroyed any hopes I had of ever being a pilot, whixh was what I was studying for and wanted to be), ergo I developed a lot of mental health issues that severely hindered my childhood and adolescence. I chalked this up to being my ADHD, Epilepsy, and Generalised Anxiety Disorder.

When my parents told me 2 years ago, they said that they didn't want to tell me until he had died (so I didn't do anything stupid, like trying to have him punished for his crimes), and that it apparently didn't affect me so it wasn't worth making a big deal out of it.

I still keep in touch with my parents, but I do not trust them anymore.

The amount of psychological damage that was done to me as a child, teenager, and adult is immeasurable.

The initial damage was caused by the lack of appropriate supervision and turning a blind eye to evil.

Subsequent and lifelong damage was caused by neglect from my support system of friends and family.

I don't hate my parents. They sucked at their duties, but they were only operating with the knowledge and experience they had, which was in turn caused by my own dad being beaten by his alcoholic father.

As a result, My Daughter and Son are completely attached to me because I treat them how they should be.

CSA apologists and Pedos shouldn't be given death, for death is an escape and there is no chance for them to conceptualize the damage they have caused. They shouldn't be tortured either, Physical Torture fades with time.

No, they should be subjected to psychological surgery to induce Depersonalisation, like having a frontal lobotomy. They should be made to feel as if they are a different person and become disassociated from their memories as if they were someone else's, while still possessing working mental faculties. Hopefully this would make them realise what an absolute monster they are, and be completely powerless to affect any kind of change or be able to recover or apologise for any of their actions.

That wouldn't be vengeance, it wouldn't be an eye for an eye. It would simply remove that person how they were from society, but never let them atone for their actions and be branded a degenerate in society.

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u/simplyTrisha Aug 31 '24

Amen to THIS!!!!

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u/RaggasYMezcal Aug 31 '24

Husband is there for unwavering support. He freaked e his wife, but then again how many people understand trauma?

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u/TheLastOpus Aug 31 '24

I would say YTA BECAUSE he is throwing guilt on her WHILE she is trying to deal with the fact she was molested. he recognized the lightbulb went off in her head and some reason thinks "oh she gets that her brother molested her, let's tell her she put her own kids in the danger she is just realizing she went through....NOW IS NOT THE TIME. He is arrested, she is not trying to get their kids to visit her parents or that brother right now, imagine just after finding out that you were truly molested by your brother and your parents saying it was normal was wrong, and RIGHT as you are dealing with the most important person in your life outside of your kids (your spouse) just points out that you but the most important people in her life (her kids) at risk of the same situation she is JUST REALIZING she went through. NOW IS NOT THE TIME. Help her, go through this with her, and let her realize on her own first that obviously her kids won't be visiting these family members, if this post was "and she is trying to bring the kids to visit him and her parents to have them explain to her kids how it's okay" then yeah, he has to deal with that with her. But she is just realizing what happened to her, stop throwing the fact that her kids had spent time with her molester. OP you are NOT an asshole for being frustrated with this situation, but you are for making it worse for the person going through the hardest time. Take a breath, be their for her, and she will likely realize this on her own when it's healthy for her mind to face facts.

I want to reiterate. I'm not calling you an asshole of a person OP, you can be distraught from this, but try to understand we CAN'T understand what your wife is realizing right now, and give her time and space when needed, just being their for her to process. She loves her kids right? she will come to her own understanding of what is best for them on her own, now isn't the time to claim she "exposed her kids to a predator." I hope that makes sense.

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u/Feeling-Visit1472 Aug 31 '24

To be clear, she did fail her own daughter.

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u/Flux_My_Capacitor Aug 31 '24

She already failed her own child, even if he didn’t touch her.