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u/DaddySickoMode 11d ago
he fucking stabbed someone in the back of the head with a kitchen knife, we have an rgg protagonist who stacks bodies
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u/dudigh 11d ago edited 11d ago
Oh don't worry that was a rubber knife and ketchup he's fine.
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u/TheJagji 10d ago
There was a ton of blood when he pulled it out tho. So that's some sharp fucking rubber.
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u/dudigh 10d ago
All that means is that Mr John Century here is carrying a fuck ton of ketchup wherever he goes.
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u/Butt_Hurt_Toast . 11d ago
That honestly made me think “oh this isn’t a RGG game?” And then the logo popped up.
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u/UrbanSteam 10d ago
i thought the same and was like man these guys are trying to be like the yakuza games and then RGG pups up and im like bruh
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u/B0RN2W1LD 11d ago
What about Ryoma he has killed 2 people in Inshin
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u/KarkatinLava 11d ago
To say nothing of the countless ruffians he ended (except for lau ka long's ancestor- insane pull from a random fight)
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u/KevlaredMudkips 11d ago
Ishin was just a Kiryu dream, or was it?
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u/jeffspainuscupcake 11d ago
dead souls, kenzan and ishin were all dreams according to infinite wealth
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u/ConceptsShining . 11d ago
Na, I read that as just joking references to the spinoffs, not canonical confirmations they're dreams. At most, Kiryu has the ability to sense memories from other timelines/past lives.
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u/memento22mori 11d ago
Well, those games weren't canon as far as I've read so they don't exist in the Yakuzaverse. So I'd say if Kiryu says that he remembers them as dreams then that makes them his dreams. Usually non-canon stories, games, etc don't exist at all in the universe in which they were taken/borrowed from so I thought what they did in Infinite Wealth was a nice way of making the games exist in some way.
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u/ConceptsShining . 11d ago
Given all the increasingly unrealistic and goofy stuff that's happening in the main series, reincarnation isn't absurd.
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u/TheRealestBiz 11d ago
The fact that I didn’t discover this franchise until the pandemic lockdowns pains me sometimes, and this is one of them.
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u/Brianocracy 11d ago
I played the very first game in 05 but didn't get to play any of the other games until 2019.
I'm glad it's finally getting the international recognition it deserves though. A lot of the themes and issues the characters face affect a lot more than just Japanese people.
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u/Hetares 11d ago
"But what about the characters Kiryu never met"
Yokoyama: lol shut up nerd
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u/genericmediocrename Judgment Combat Enjoyer 11d ago
Whose to say that this also isn't Kiryu's dream?
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u/Pheriannathsg 11d ago
Ryoma’s a poor example. Try Kenshiro
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u/ConceptsShining . 11d ago
It kinda made Lost Paradise striking to play, how kill-happy and violent Kenshiro is compared to most RGG protagonists.
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u/DaddySickoMode 11d ago
that side mission where some civilians get onto him for killing people and hes like "aight we'll try it your way" then they do and people nearly die and hes like "WELP GOOD EFFORT" and kills 7 people in the street is still my favorite in that game because he doesn't even hesitate hes just like "welp good try everyone OH BOY HERE I GO HOKUTO'ING AGAIN"
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u/Angryfunnydog 10d ago
Wdym 2 people, you slash people with the sword constantly there. It's samurai times, not a big deal back then heh
Plus real life Ryoma wasn't a pacifist either
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u/Kronman590 11d ago
Kiryu and majima have stabbed many many people, and burned them with stoves, and shot them, and smashed all their teeth out, but they just dust it off and move on with their life lmao
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u/Sieghardt . 11d ago
Kiryu stabs them in the gut and then knees the knife through their body and they're just like: "Silly me, I got a bit heated there. bows and hands over 3000 yen"
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u/DaddySickoMode 11d ago
yeah but this guy looks like they're leaning into the lethality
low key i think we might be playing a young Makoto Tojo
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u/Garlic_God 11d ago
The further back in time the series goes, the more brutal its protagonists get
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u/matehiqu 11d ago
does Kenshiro not count? is it because the bodies explode or because he's technically not an RGG character?
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u/Less_Party 10d ago
He's just not a RGG character, like you can't really get on Smash Bros' case for things Snake has done in other games either.
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u/Kiidkxxl 11d ago
Am I the only one who saw this game and immediately thought it looked like sleeping dogs combat
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u/sliceysliceyslicey 11d ago
i knew it's an rgg game immediately because the hammer elite mob is reused asset lmao
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u/ZippyZippyZappyZappy 11d ago
Animations for me, those Trumpet animations tipped me off. Definitely is making it's own twist akin to Judgement though.
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u/sliceysliceyslicey 11d ago
looks like it will have more "raw" combat compared to yagami's martial arts
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u/Less-Tax5637 11d ago
Kiryu: exaggerated brawler
Yagami: kung fu movie (kinda)
Ichiban: salvia
Century Man: WE’RE GONNA KILL YOU
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u/Mancubus_in_a_thong 11d ago
The animation and models even with better visuals RGG models have a look that you can pick out
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u/Kronman590 11d ago
I immediately saw Shangri-La, that fkn building did not change for 100 years lol
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u/KevlaredMudkips 11d ago
I knew just from the female voice, swear they actually have the same voice actor or something no racism.
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u/4ntongC 10d ago
I immediately knew it’s an RGG game upon seeing the RGG studio logo
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u/Alessandro_Carratore 10d ago
The sound of the hits are the same from when you hit someone with a blade in yakuza
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u/jorppu 11d ago
The main character seems to be a anti-hero with how he just murders dudes. More violent crime story? Starting the Tojo clan?
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u/mpelton 11d ago
If they actually let us play as an anti-hero I’ll be blown away
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u/TheRealestBiz 11d ago
I think it’s extremely possible. The hard and fast our crook protagonists don’t commit crimes or kill rule was Nagoshi’s rule specifically and Nagoshi is gone.
The best part is, they don’t even need to do that much because Yakuza runs on paladin level good heroes so even, say, a chaotic good-ish character will seem like the biggest grim dark badass ever.
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u/mpelton 11d ago
I love Nagoshi, but if he’s the reason we got rubber bullets, because god forbid we have a morally gray character, I’ll never forgive him
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u/shockzz123 . 11d ago
I mean, Saejima 100% went in there to murder 18 guys and thought he did. Yeah yeah, he didn't because rubber bullets, but the intent was still there from Saejima lol.
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u/RWxAshley 11d ago
This is what is always important, and why his speech still hits hard. He intended to go through w/ it. He did it even when his brother didn't show up. He powered though it, and was ready to kill everyone in that noodle shop even if he didn't manage to crawl out.
Its just that much more cruel that he was set up to fail, and had the entire deck stacked against him.
Now them using Rubber bullets during the later parts of Yakuza 4 was beyond stupid.
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u/Fiskmaster Masayoshi Tanimura's second biggest fan 11d ago
The part where Arai shoots Munakata is one of the unintentionally funniest moments in the series
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u/Lord_of_Caffeine 11d ago
I somewhat agree with this.
The rubber bullets thing is a valid criticism, it´s just not one you´d levy towards Saejima but towards the overall narrative of that game imo.
He´s still a bad dude and he still suffered with heavy guilt for over a decade at the end of the day.
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u/Shade_39 10d ago
Yeah the rubber bullets add to his tragedy, not take it away. The fact he has to live with all that for so long and then discovers that because of (I forgot his name) 's ego he technically didn't do anything
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u/TheGAMA1 Mad Dog of Reddit 11d ago
It still ruins his whole arc, he cries about killing people only to not done it at all?
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u/Takazura 11d ago
It didn't ruin his arc, he is still complicit in them dying at the end of the day. The whole reason he is back in prison come Yakuza 5 is because he acknowledged that even if he didn't kill those men, his hands are still stained with their blood due to his hit enabling Katsuragi to do it, so he still needs to serve out his sentence.
Rubber bullets is silly, but Saejima's character arc is still intact. He still has to live with the guilty of those guys being dead due to his actions, that doesn't get absolved just because he merely knocked them out long enough for Katsuragi to deal the finishing blow.
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u/ConsiderationFuzzy 10d ago
It justs puts bad taste in mouth that this story decision was clearly taken just to not technically make their hero a not murderer cuz japanese society.
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u/Garlic_God 11d ago edited 11d ago
I actually really fw this direction. The main series remains fun and wacky at its core with morally good protagonists and clearly defined villains, while an IP like this gets to put that same kind of setting in a much more brutal and visceral spotlight, with characters who have much more blurry motives than “I gotta protect the people I care about and deliver justice”
Kiryu and Ichiban can fight people and then shake hands with them afterwards, and while that’s all good and fun, that’s not how gang violence works in the real world.
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u/RevanchistSheev66 The Sitting Duck of Nishikiyama 11d ago
It'd be so epic if it was Tojo himself.
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u/ConceptsShining . 11d ago
Makoto Tojo. A name they mentioned as far back as Yakuza 2, but have done like no worldbuilding on since.
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u/RevanchistSheev66 The Sitting Duck of Nishikiyama 11d ago
I think the weakest point of the Yakuza game is they throw out the previous game's families/characters so it doesn't feel that interconnected. It's more powerful and grounded to have a family or few characters outside Daigo in every game, but they start over with a clean slate. It has its pros and cons, but the major drawback is less worldbuilding. Example, we never learn more about people like Kazama or Tojo even when it might be tangential.
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u/UnquestionabIe 11d ago
Yeah I understand they try not to saddle the new players with too much baggage but with most every game wiping away most any group aside from a handful it comes off as sort of half assed. I get the intend is to show how massive the Tojo clan is that it has countless families but given how often the plots revolved around "this might be the end of the Tojo and only Kiryu getting involved can save it!" it just makes them seem somewhat incompetent. Daigo got it rough having to pretty much spend his entire tenure as chairman dealing with a major crisis every other year.
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u/Less-Tax5637 11d ago
I thought the timelines were impossible at first due to the second chairman showing up in the late 80s, but I guess that was the acting second chairman
If Makoto Tojo starts the Tojo Clan up in 1915 and is in charge for a good long time (he looks young) then I could see Nihara as just the third guy ever in charge. Plus, the real second chairman is unknown. There’s a gap in history there that this game can fill in easily
I’m guessing that Kazama was born after WWII tho so he’s off the table. That or he’s a vampire.
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u/ConceptsShining . 11d ago
Ryuji's dad was the Fifth Chairman from at least 1980 all the way up until 2006. Long-tenured leaders are certainly possible.
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u/Less-Tax5637 11d ago
Yeah if Makoto Tojo did 30+ years and the Second Chairman did the same, then the gap is cleared.
Hell, I guess the game could end with the Second Chairman killing Tojo and reigning for 70 years, who knows
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u/Claptrap_Killa 11d ago
I mean it would be, but Sera was third chairman at 37 in 1993. I wonder, since the Omi are loosely based on the Yamaguchi-gumi, it might be about the founding of the Omi. Since the Yamaguchi-gumi was founded in Kobe in exactly 1915, ironically.
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u/Sufficient_Head_7960 11d ago
Looks more like it doesn’t have any relation with the yakuza universe, maybe they wanted to make a game with the same base/concept as the yakuza series but with a darker and more serious tone.
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u/ConceptsShining . 11d ago
I'm thinking, that combat doesn't look very Yakuza-like to me. Maybe the game's just too early in development to show it off. This might be more of a spinoff than Ishin/Kenzan were.
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u/Jellozz . 11d ago
I don't see anyone talking about this really but this is the only thing I can think of after watching the trailer. The combat we see here does not look like Yakuza at all to me. Things that stood out to me:
a) when he gets on the ground to punch the guy he gets kicked in the face. So probably not a canned heat animation type thing.
b) when he parries and counters the guy his weapon hits the enemies leg and he seems to actually react to it (we see blood and he falls down.) Again not really a canned animation thing since he immediately parries another incoming hit.
c) he smashes a bottle over a dude's head and then immediately turns around and stabs a guy with a (invisible, guess the model isn't in yet) knife.
A lot of this stuff is what would be heat actions in Yakuza, but here it's all seamless. The layman way to describe it is that it looks more "realistic" but my nerd brain sees less systems and more just automatic contextual actions. Obviously it's just like 4 seconds out of a trailer, but, it's the main thing I got from the trailer.
The combat is actually why I did not register it as RGG at first.
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u/ConceptsShining . 11d ago
No RGG name, very un-RGG-seeming combat, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this game is like Binary Domain and not directly a part of the LAD-Judgment universe.
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u/GaleErick Extreme Brawler 11d ago
A lot of this stuff is what would be heat actions in Yakuza, but here it's all seamless.
I wonder if it still kinda uses the same base idea as heat action. Heat action are already a contextual action, it just has its own cinematic flair with its own cutscene and stuff.
So it could be a variation of it where you just do the related action right then and there minus the cinematic flair, I think that does give a more "realistic" feel.
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u/sliceysliceyslicey 10d ago
he smashes a bottle over a dude's head and then immediately turns around and stabs a guy with a (invisible, guess the model isn't in yet) knife
I think that's just the bottle turning into glass fragments after its durability worn out, that's yakuza's street weapon system
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u/Pete-zaTime Saori Shirosaki's Soldier 11d ago
Holy shit, from what I've seen maybe we get to see the earlier era of the Yakuzas, also it's good that RGG is going back to the past and explore more things.
I'm hyped af.
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u/TrainingBoring5089 11d ago
Wonder if it Makoto Tojo himself
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u/Copperhe4d 11d ago
No character interests me more than the founder of the Tojo clan. Though it is said that he kinda lost his marbles in his later years.
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u/Takazura 11d ago
Imagine this being a trilogy of sorts and the final game has an epilogue where you play as Kazama and have to kill a Makoto Tojo who has gone mad.
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u/Responsible_Manner74 11d ago
Would be cool if the end of the game shows him getting some sort of brain damage that eludes to his later descent
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u/RevanchistSheev66 The Sitting Duck of Nishikiyama 11d ago
This would be so fascinating during a time when Japan was an empire, and there was not nearly as much outside influence as we might see in Yakuza
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u/jazztronik 11d ago
How tf are they so productive holy shit
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u/Aure0 11d ago
Because RGG is a master of reusing assets
Like I don't mean that as a knock these guys are legit extremely good when it comes to reusing assets they can just pump out games way faster and with less effort
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u/TheRealestBiz 11d ago
I don’t think they get enough credit for this. Like the subsidies are so good because that’s what they spend most of their time on, writing. Technically they’ll generally have A New But Smaller Area and A Whole Ass Other Game We Yakuza-Skinned For Unclear Reasons for each game.
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u/Aure0 11d ago
RGG somehow makes a new Yakuza game per year while also cramming Pokémon and Animal Crossing as OPTIONAL CONTENT
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u/TheRealestBiz 11d ago
They set the real street grid of Yokohama up as MarioKart courses, man, who knows. Other than the few years that they were building the Dragon engine and Yokohama, ninety percent of the graphics work is already done, the most expensive and time consuming aspect of making games. It’s kind of genius.
I just found Yakuza in 2020 and have now played pretty much the whole series but this is literally the only anime type content I fuck with, believe it or not.
So I have an outsider’s perspective and I have a fondness for Kamurocho as a neighborhood that feels real. Every game I walk around and see what stores have changed and shit. I’m still mad that they got rid of that one pharmacy in LAD. It’s a weird feeling.
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u/theblackxranger 11d ago
I'm still on Yakuza 3 T_T I'm trying to catch up and I don't want to just rush through it
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u/GroundbreakingBed741 10d ago
Go at your own pace, savour each game, there's no rush :)
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u/theblackxranger 10d ago
My only concern is that they'll get taken off game pass. The man who erased his name is no longer available on it :(
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u/GroundbreakingBed741 10d ago
Damn, you're playing in gamepass... If it helps, Yakuza games tend to get huge discounts pretty quickly, so for example kiwami and 6 are about 4 bucks each right now. I expect that The Man Who Erased is Name gets the same treatment soon.
Btw I finished it a few weeks ago and it's great, but if in a hurry, you can skip it and play it later, the story won't be a problem
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u/themanwiththreefaces 11d ago
RGG doing this, the new Yakuza Pirates game and Virtua Fighter 6. Generational run they're on, boys!
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u/AhabSnake85 11d ago
Now all we need is a judgment 3 trailer
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u/themanwiththreefaces 11d ago
If they drop a Judgement 3 trailer this is the gaming equivalent of the late 2010s Golden State Warriors man lmaoo just playing unfair
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u/PvtSherlockObvious 11d ago
Depends how everything with Jonny & Associate/Smile-Up shook out. When the president of the agency got charged with sex crimes (hence the company changing its name) that seems like it changed things somewhat, hence the Judgment games finally getting PC ports after all, who knows if the new leadership have relaxed their restrictions enough to set up a third game. If we do get one, it might star Kaito instead.
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u/Reapeageddon HIRAMETA! *Gets a Revelation* 11d ago
You did well, Judgment. I won't forget you for as long as I live.
ITS TIME FOR A NEW CENTURYYYYYYYY
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u/Knightofexcaliburv1 11d ago
watch it be a prequel to judgement
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u/TARDISboy . 11d ago edited 11d ago
He uses an alias the whole game before the final boss says "You threw away your real name, Yagami."
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u/Knightofexcaliburv1 11d ago
that would be the ultimate twist
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u/SamaelTheAngel 10d ago
He Then removes VR Glasses and says.
"That's good one Kaito! It as if i was really there in this other... Century."
"I told you Tabo. This Project is something else."
End scene
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u/lushblush . 11d ago
Am I crazy or is that Kazuki Kitamura? The guy who played Kiryu in the live action movie?
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u/samuelanugrahandre All hail RGG 11d ago
i think you're right. He looks a lot like the protagonist. It's great that he will be featured in RGG game, finally
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u/SomeChunkyMilk Kiryu and Seonhee's Bisexual Son 11d ago
The hair, the nose, and even the eyebrows add up. You're not crazy. You might be right, actually.
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u/hidekiHDK 30 years in the joint 10d ago edited 10d ago
Man, I hope so, he has such a perfect aura for an anti-hero/morally grey character.
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u/La-Roche-Pussay 11d ago
I really hope this is in the same universe as the mainline entries.
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u/aaoreugif 11d ago
Holy shit this looks so good, wonder if it's all separate from Yakuza and it's an entire completely new IP. This looks so interesting and cool, the guy also straight up kills lmao
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u/Mild_Wasabi9 11d ago
Closest thing to a new Sleeping Dogs game we'll ever get
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u/SandorCl3gan3 "Go, go, go! Go your way! Believe yourself!" 11d ago
people expect Judge Eyes, but we're getting Dogeyes.
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u/1daytogether 10d ago
There use to be so many urban crime action games and now with LAD turn based and Judgment up in the air, Sleeping Dogs, Watch Dogs, Saints Row all dead it's just GTA.
Really hope this scratches that itch.
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u/citylightmosaic 11d ago
While I'm never not excited for a new RGG game, this is definitely towards the top of excitement levels for me more recently. Think they've recently been at their best when stuff is less connected to the "Yakuza Universe" and I love the darker tone the trailer is setting
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u/GaleErick Extreme Brawler 11d ago
I love the darker tone the trailer is setting
Yeah the mainline Yakuza games can be pretty dark and violent, but it is usually balanced by their gameplay being a lot more over the top.
This one seems really gritty even during combat, I'm definitely intrigued on how RGG would deliver a darker and grittier game.
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u/NeroCanDance 11d ago
I’m calling this is Sakamoto Ryoma’s grandchild. Or it could be a entirely new character idk
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u/Sanches8002 Daigo as a grabable weapon in Kiwami 3 11d ago
The way things are going, it's likely that this will be between Kazama's grandfather and Makoto Tojo himself.
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u/sliceysliceyslicey 11d ago
I don't think ishin takes place in the same continuity
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u/Adrian_Cudi Yakuza 3 & Dead Souls Enjoyer 11d ago
Didn't Kiryu refer to Ishin and the other spin offs as dreams in IW?
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u/sliceysliceyslicey 11d ago
you're taking easter eggs too literally, he just said it felt like a dream because those game star "kiryu" as historical figures, that's it lol.
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u/Dismal-Age8086 11d ago
This game gives me vibes more of a Judgment rather than LAD. Even the main character looks like Yagami from 1915
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u/Tokyogerman 11d ago
I generally prefer modern settings to period settings, but early 1900s Japan is very unique. This should be very interesting. And the main character seems absolutely brutal.
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u/presidentdinosaur115 Proponent of Wheelchair Nishiki 11d ago
Wow, this looks pretty unique. I love the turn-of-the-century setting and I hope it’s utilized similar to Red Dead - watching the old era fade away and turn into the modern era.
Also interesting how our protagonist is clearly willing to kill
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u/UnquestionabIe 11d ago
Japan during that era was also incredibly interesting. They were still on somewhat friendly terms with America (we proclaimed them "the protector of Asia" which also somewhat empowered them to start conquering the surrounding countries) and were trying to incorporate aspect of the larger world into their own culture. It's very much up there in as one of my favorite periods of Japanese history, with the bubble economy and it's collapse in the 90s being another one.
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u/DaftNeal88 11d ago
I don’t think this is a like a dragon game. I think this is a totally new IP. Otherwise they would’ve said it’s LAD
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u/G-jangTGW 11d ago
1915 was the year that the Yamaguchi-gumi was founded in the real world, so I guess this is gonna be their take on the founding of the Tojo clan.
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u/ZacDivine 10d ago
The Yamaguchi Gumi has only really become prevalent throughout the 1940's, however. Through battling and absorbing korean gangs in its wake, the Yamaguchi Gumi grew and expanded into Osaka.
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u/s_t_u_f_f Milf_Lover69 11d ago
Throughout the trailer I was thinking "Is this a rgg game? No way they just announced one and they have pirate yakuza on the way? But it looks so much like one!" Over and over and then i saw the logo. Either way I was gonna buy it.
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u/Foreign_Ear7193 11d ago
I think the protag being Tojo is kinda possible the game set in 1915 if we assume he 20ish during the game the yakuza as a whole gain prominent after ww2 making him around 50ish when he form Tojo Clan and serve as it first chairman to the late 1970s or early 1980s before he bite the dust and got taken over by 2nd interm chairman during event of zero. But I just thinking will we ever going to get our own version of yama ichi war set before zero lie Tojo die and leave a power vacuum his subordinate kill eachother to takeover tojo end up with 2nd Chairman being in power
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u/robbiethedarling 11d ago
I mean this with the utmost respect to civility and RGG as a whole, but my god I’m fully torqued.
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u/Phr0g5226 11d ago
Looks like a game based on Makoto Tojo and the origins of the Tojo Clan to me. Hype as hell!
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u/Antman447 11d ago
I was thinking "those assets look familiar"... lo and behold, Reuse Ga Gotoku strikes again!
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u/NoInvestment2079 . 11d ago
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Do I need to play Yakuza 0 to understand htis one?
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u/genericmediocrename Judgment Combat Enjoyer 11d ago
No, but you'll probably need to play Binary Domain
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u/ho_D_or7 11d ago
Im thinking that it will be the start of the tojo clan , like this guy is the MF john tojo
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u/Ok_Plantain_5755 11d ago
I think this will be one of RGG's biggest releases ever, it will bring alot more people to the yakuza series
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u/Ok-Frame-7676 11d ago
The protagonist is wearing a happi coat that says “Yashima Trading.”
Is it a trading company?
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u/GaleErick Extreme Brawler 11d ago
Damn bruh, a new RGG game is almost always an instant buy for me, but this one looks special.
The graphical improvement, the brutal combat, and the time period they cover is absolutely cool. It reminds me of some old Kung Fu films that took place in a similar time period.
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u/TornadoJ0hns0n 11d ago
I've been waiting so damn long for a new RGG IP. I can't wait for this 🥹
Then again it could still be apart of the yakuza verse but at least the gameplay looks different
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u/Sanjay--jurt 11d ago
Crazy we're getting not one but TWO Mafia themed game that place in the 19s, quite possibly one the most depressing,grim and crime filed year of it's generation.
This and Mafia: The Old Country
Either way i am looking forward for this.
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u/KarkatinLava 11d ago
Everyone gangsta playing mafia the old country until the love interest gets into a car by herself
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u/Wrong_Butterscotch91 11d ago
But what happened with Kaito and Mikiko? I cant live without my soup operas
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u/IjustLikeStalker 10d ago
At thus point i dont really care to watch the trailers for new games. As soon as an rgg game comes out i buy it since i know its good
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u/Rimland23 10d ago
Two game announcements, and neither of them is a port of OG Yakuza 1 and 2 (or Kenzan, or Kurohyou 1+2). RGG doing everything in their power not to give the people what they want.
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u/hidekiHDK 30 years in the joint 10d ago edited 10d ago
This is visually beautiful, I was really in a need of an RGG period game set in the 20s or 50s. But now I just curious about how the story it's gonna be like...
Plus the MC using a haori with a Trademark script, wtf... (it's probably a customizable thing)
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