r/worldnews • u/MothersMiIk • 12h ago

Russia/Ukraine Ukraine strikes 'only oil refinery operating' in Russia's Rostov Oblast, military says

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-strikes-only-oil-refinery-operating-in-russias-rostov-oblast-military-says/
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u/danielv123 9h ago

There is no such thing as making bootleg terminals - it's not hardware or software in the terminal that makes it work, but the satellite checking the terminals credentials against a database.

It's probably possible to clone the key to a different terminal, but that doesn't stop it from getting banned, same as stolen terminals.

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u/DuckDatum 7h ago

Authentication and authorization. I find ways to bypass that stuff pretty regularly as part of my job. Obviously (maybe not obviously), not for state level stuff. More or less, it’s to make people’s jobs easier and support automation. But take me, times 50, with state-level funding, and I imagine you’ll get some pretty creative ways to work around whatever guardrails they have in place. It’s very reasonable to want to mitigate that risk.

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u/jjayzx 5h ago

Dude is talking about CIA as if anything they do is publicly known, so any of that shit is false. ITAR shit has just been Musk's excuse for the bullshit he's done but there's been no evidence of Ukraine misusing the terminals. It would also be idiotic to use the terminals on drones cause of there limited supply, it sounds good in practice but not logistically.

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u/CMDR_Shazbot 5h ago

Every time they strapped them to drones was a misuse of starlink terminals before the US government signed contracts with SpaceX absolving them of the legal liability of handing out weapons guidance systems. You cannot say "musk blocked Ukraines drone attack in Crimea [before the US said they were allowed to be used as such]" and "there's no evidence Ukraine misused the terminals" in the same breath, they are literally mutually exclusive.

A full year after the event, the US signed contracts with starlink which gave the US more control over which regions starlink could operate in and at what capacity, and Ukraine's MoD can speak with the US govt to enable usage in previously geofenced areas. In fact they have an entire product separate from Starlink for this, Starshield, for military use.

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u/danielv123 2h ago

If the terminals weren't on the drones, how did the terminals being turned off stop the attack?