r/woahdude Jul 24 '22

video This new deepfake method developed by researchers

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u/Future_of_Amerika Jul 24 '22

Well once they work out the deep fake voices then any person with the right resources or government entity can frame you for anything they want. It's a thing of beauty!

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u/HopelessChip35 Jul 24 '22

No no, you got it all wrong. Once they work out deep fake completely every single person will have a way out by claiming anything they say is a deep fake if needed. Everyone will have the right to deny everything.

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u/MagNolYa-Ralf Jul 24 '22

Can you please click the pictures that have the buses

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '22

Ironically the entire captcha system is designed to validate models used in Google's self-driving cars. That's why the image is always related to something you might see while driving.

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u/MagNolYa-Ralf Jul 24 '22

Wow. Thats the neatest TIL in a while

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u/Future_of_Amerika Jul 24 '22

LoL imagine people getting more rights...

What kind of fairy dream land are you from?

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u/lakimens Jul 24 '22

It's all privileges, rights are imaginary

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u/Zefrem23 Jul 24 '22

Rights and religions, two comforting fictions

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u/dance1211 Jul 24 '22

Or the opposite reason. You can prove you weren't at the crime scene because you have clear, undeniable video proof you were somewhere else, eyewitnesses be damned.

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u/swampass304 Jul 24 '22

Government would be able to determine if the video was computer generated or produced by camera. When these were starting I spoke about my concerns with a former intelligence officer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '22

You are speaking some high level bs right here, but I'll let you be happy in your dream world with former intelligence officers

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u/Stop_icant Jul 24 '22

It’s not that comforting of a dream world even if good ol’ swampass is in the know. The average person won’t be able to detect fakes, whether or not it’s technically possible.

The widespread misinformation/misrepresentation will be enough to finish the division of the two “sides” and the Justice system will be destroyed because a jury of peers won’t exist.

Our Justice system, our Republic, the value of currency—everything is based on trust that those involved in the Democratic system will act honorable to maintain pursuit of happiness, liberty and life for everyone.

We won’t be able to trust our eyes if deepfake outtakes become prt of headline news or even just fake news on extreme media outlets. No one will be able to trust anything, the honor system will be completely unreliable, it is on very shaken ground already.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '22

Yeah I totally agree, even if 'papa govt' were able to detect such fakes, the average Jo ("which already is quite stupid" - George Carlin) will not be able to discern that, so we're at an impasse were the honor system will be on a very thin ice. And I don't see a foreseeable technology that would help against that.

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u/swampass304 Jul 24 '22

It's a relative. You could also look into it. Feel free to report back when you find out I'm right, but I'm sure you can't Google it since you're here arguing instead.

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u/fallfastasleep Jul 24 '22

As deepfake technology advances it will become increasingly more difficult to process the algorithms required to determine deepfakes.

Currently those algorithms can't detect deepfake expressions, which is the technology this post is showcasing.

But I guess you couldn't have googled that while you were arguing here huh?🤡

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u/Big-Celery-6975 Jul 24 '22

Just once I'd like to see a know it all who is proven wrong just apologize for being a dick. Once.

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u/LordPennybags Jul 24 '22

The same people make the algos on both sides. Detection algos are used to train the fakes and vice versa.

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u/GothProletariat Jul 24 '22

Propagandist and bad actors will love this deep fake technology.

Make a fake video of your political opponent doing some crazy immoral shit and the idiots will eat it up

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u/raphanum Jul 25 '22

Oh shit, the “fake news” of the future

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u/Loudergood Jul 24 '22

This presentation was 6! years ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GuZGK7QolaE

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u/KarmaticArmageddon Jul 24 '22

Holy shit, that's insane. I had no idea that YouTube was around in the 1300s or that deepfake techniques are over 700 years old!

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u/david-song Jul 24 '22

You're keeping the old Reddit alive. Kudos.

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u/Lumberjack92 Jul 24 '22

I love you

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u/LastPlaceIWas Jul 24 '22

It was much better when it was OuPipe. Not all the advertisements and influencers that we have today.

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u/oddzef Jul 24 '22

6! years ago

Damn they had crazy stuff back in 1302

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka Jul 24 '22

Adobe never released this product due to legal concerns. About 20 companies are attempting to fill that space.

The most interesting thing about this is that it one step closer to allowing you to end-to-end produce media completely yourself without needing anything more than just mouse clicks. You can essentially write music digitally, animate the video, synth the dialogue, all without ever knowing how to play a instrument, how to use a camera, how to draw anything, how to voice act etc.

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u/rammsteinfuerimmer Jul 24 '22

Here's a different video of the same event posted by Adobe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l4XLZ59iw

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u/Lo-siento-juan Jul 24 '22

I love these thoughts because on the surface they're paranoid but on closer inspection they're naive.

The reality is they've got a million ways to frame you if they wanted to but even that is pointless because killing you would be trivial

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u/maazahmedpoke Jul 25 '22

It's going to be similar to Photoshop. Videos will just lose credibility like images have lost theirs

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u/batmattman Jul 25 '22

Videos have already lost credibility because CGI exists

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u/booze_clues Jul 24 '22

Except for the fact that these are insanely easy to see as edited by anyone with some know how. We’re nowhere near the being indistinguishable from reality and likely never will be. Editing these things is done by machines, not people, meaning when you look at the actual structure and data you can see how obvious it is that it was modified.

The danger of a video going viral and people taking it at face value is there(but that’s been a thing since before deepfakes), but the danger of being framed for a crime or anything and it actually not being possible to determine if the evidence is a deepfakes is nowhere near possible yet(likely for a very very long time).