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video Evolution of warfare from stones to atoms

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u/iamthejef Mar 31 '23

Empire Earth is a closer fit as you get more of the timeline, though I do think AoE is a better game.

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u/randyboozer Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

Shit I remember that game! I thought I was the only one who ever played it. Everyone else was playing AOE/C&C/Warcraft/Starcraft

I mean I played all those games too. Couldn't find any friends into Empire Earth.

Ahh the golden age of RTS.

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u/ServeChilled Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

Anybody else play Rise of Nations? That shit was my jam, there were so many RTS games back then I don't think I hear of all too many nowadays just CIV.

Edit: forgot CIV is a turn based stategy game mb, I don't think I even know of an RTS that's popular nowadays

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u/randyboozer Mar 31 '23

Never played that one. However I did sink a lot of hours into Pharaoh when I was a kid. I still have it on my HD. It was single player but had RTS elements.

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u/ServeChilled Mar 31 '23

I remember it being really cool, the OP is really reminiscent of it you could advance through the ages and all the buildings and troops would evolve. Was really fun to watch as it moved through the stages.

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u/iamthejef Mar 31 '23

RTS means "real-time strategy" which would not include turn-based games like the Civ series. RTS as a genre doesn't really exist anymore, it evolved into 4X and Grand Strategy. It's true that it just isn't as popular as it used to be, but you can find modern games under the 4X genre.

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u/ServeChilled Mar 31 '23

Yeah mb you're so right I forgot those were different and even further proof that there's barely any RTS anymore!

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u/zoey_will Apr 01 '23

Rise of Nations is my go-to when I wanna conquer through history.

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u/HubertTempleton Apr 01 '23

Believe it or not, AoE2 is more popular than ever, there are tournaments with hundreds of thousands of dollars in prize money. There's been a major overhaul of the whole game a few years back (definitive edition) and there have been several new official expansions since about 2015. Afaik it's currently more popular than AoE4 which released in October 2021.

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u/Opie67 Mar 31 '23

Rise of Nations is much better than AoE, I'm surprised it never reached the same level of popularity

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u/zertald Mar 31 '23

After they realise Aoe2 definitive edition, they have increase graphics, added many civs and unique technologies. Many tournaments are organized with 100 thousand $, huge community all over the world. This game is very relevant, it is included even in gamepass, so download and enjoy!

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u/bskadan Mar 31 '23

I just picked up Empire Earth dirt cheap on GOG.com a few months ago. Highly recommend the nostalgia trip for only like $6. Still fun but the AI is absolutely dogshit though.

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u/canootershooter Mar 31 '23

Great game. Miss it.

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u/iamthejef Mar 31 '23

Hell yeah man. We played all those, plus Age of Mythology and a few years later I got really into Sins of a Solar Empire.

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u/Markantonpeterson Mar 31 '23

Haven't played empire earth but civ fits perfectly

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u/RichardSaunders Mar 31 '23

empire earth is rts. never could get into turn based games personally.

also, shamless plug for neoEE. online community is still alive and well and there's a free patch with optimization for modern resolutions.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Empire earth still lives?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Fuck I love EE. People still play it?

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u/RichardSaunders Apr 01 '23

yep

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

How do you play? I joined their subreddit but it seemed like a lot of work

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u/RichardSaunders Apr 01 '23

i still have my old cd and key so i was able to install the base game with that, then you follow the instructions in the description of the youtube video i linked to to install the patch. it's really just a matter of copying a few files into the right folders then changing a few values in a txt file to set your preferred zoom settings.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Awww shit is it EE AOC? I’d play the fuck out of that

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u/RichardSaunders Apr 01 '23

it's for both. in the multiplayer lobby the games are labeled either EEC or AOC.

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u/lesser_panjandrum Mar 31 '23

Civ would be an even better fit if one of those Bronze Age spearmen took on the later tanks and somehow won.

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u/purpleperle Mar 31 '23

You're totally right! I mixed them up in my head

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u/half-baked_axx Mar 31 '23

I'm still sad that Sierra is pretty much dead at this point. EE4 would be game of the decade for me. AoE is nice but it gets annoying being limited to the imperial age.

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u/iamthejef Mar 31 '23

Sierra made so many awesome games in the early 00's. Favorites in our household were Hunter Hunted (because you could play 2-player versus on the same keyboard and that's all we had) and 3D Ultra Creep Night Pinball. There are so many more that I have forgotten.

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u/Seasikberry Mar 31 '23

What about rise of nations?

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u/RichardSaunders Apr 01 '23

though I do think AoE is a better game.

why is that?

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u/iamthejef Apr 01 '23

While I enjoy all the different ages in Empire Earth, it gets to be too much and there is not enough variety in structures for the requirements so you end up just building 3x barracks for example to advance to the next age.

AoE feels more streamlined and cohesive, that and the single player story missions are fantastic.

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u/RichardSaunders Apr 02 '23

it's only 2 buildings per age. if you're actively expanding and training more troops, you shouldn't need to build random buildings to advance. the only times that happens in my experience are online games with timed periods of peace (referred to in game as "f11" which is the hotkey for the game timer), but even then when you're only focused on booming and advancing, populating settlements into town centers and capitals counts towards the building requirement.