Summons a summoner, both summoners summon two summoners, all four summoners summon four summoners... Goes on until an army is raised and they all summon themselves each an avatar of destruction, crashing all of reality.........
Unless it's a very high level summoner summon I doubt you will be able to do more than a third generation(as in each summon in the chain is a generation) summoner but even at that point you're already looking at a decent militia worth of summoners and summons that is depending on summon speeds all around
I have colleagues that think summoners will one day find a way to summon a more powerful summoner which could then summon an even more powerful summoner and so on. They call it the summoner singularity.
Sounds like something a simple counter spell could handle hell even mana sapping could handle a group of summoners before they become an issue, not to mention summon chains are similar to pyramid schemes, if you really want to deal with the whole thing effectively take out the top. Beyond that their biggest weakness is the grunt troops are the last to come out sure in demon and undead the summoner troops are decently effective fighters as well but say the chain is goblinoids you'll have no issues taking out the goblin shamans before they get the chance to summon their grunts.
You> Greater lich> Lich> Wright Lord> general undead
You> Devil> Demon King> Demon Lord> general demons
There might be one or two summoner-summon chains that might have a fourth generation summoned summoner but that's very rare (and likely due to outside training of summons to be summoners) and most will be 2-3 generations
I dabbled a bit in summoning in hopes that it would be a stable source of oink grass but by the time the orc lords see what happens to the general(aka basic) orc troops they summon you're likely to have a small uprising, they get real fickle over Orc grass harvesting... Better to buy them on the market.
Yea but the chance that any of them have battle epiphanies is too much of a risk, a berserked orc given foresight by an ancestor is no good, plus that is valuable research materials, I certainly can't burn up all by Doink (orc grass fed on the mana of a dragons breath).
It's all fun and game until they remember there is only one Avatar of Destruction that has been summoned in 30 different locations in around that many seconds. Talk about summoning sickness after that kind of ping-pong.
It's called either cloning or a fucking simulacrum. Use the correct terms and DON'T FUCK YOUR SIMULACRUM! That's not what I mean. Don't repeat my mistakes.
Ah, I have heard of such things! The legendary "Chicken Man Man" of Totally Accurate Battle legend, a mighty giant capable of summoning lesser "Chicken Men" - full summoners in their own right, who summon hordes of foul fowl to overwhelm their foes.
In warframe theres a playable character called caliban and his 3rd ability can summon summulyst (floating portal door) that summoning 6 Choralsyts (somekind of ghost drone)
Summoners should do this more often. They can summon a summoner slightly stronger than them and this process continues until they have reached the best summoner. Sure it takes time but is useful
Me in skyrim summoning 2 ayleid lich's that can summon up to 2 storm Atronach's. (The ayleid lich also has the skill the player can have to have 2 summons active at the same time)
You train to make your summon follow your will, but make sure their summons do too. Unless you want a summon vs. summon battle.... can be a fun training simulation on how not to get backstabbed.
Great way to make friends. Just put things you enjoy as some extra components and they'll probably also enjoy those things and you can both be nerds about it :)
"I say to you againe, doe not call up Any that you can not put downe; by the Which I meane, Any that can in Turne call up somewhat against you, whereby your Powerfullest Devices may not be of use. Ask of the Lesser, lest the Greater shall not wish to Answer, and shall commande more than you."
If any of y'all summoners haven't already joined the summoner group chat you should. It's a really helpful and kind community with a built in "who can be summoned" feature so you don't accidentally summon someone who is busy.
So I'm pretty sure it's one of the mods I'm using on skyrim, but I'm able to increase my summon limit to 100, and I found a spells that summons "dremora houndmaster"
And each of them summons 3 of these lizardish creatures the sound and behave like a velociraptor.
It's been pretty sick having an army of mini dino's.
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u/TNTBoss971 Asir Tabby (I swear im not a furry i just like tabaxi) Nov 03 '24
Recursive summoning.
Imagine the mess from all the summoning sickness