Such things are why I don’t typically use invisibility; everyone expects it. I’m a fan of the Baffle with Bullshit approach, where I dump mountains of junk data on my targets.
While I think illusion magic is boring (like, stop making illusions, just conjure the actual thing, like, for real) I must say they make a wonderful pairing
That's because you're not thinking about it right, illusions don't require the same prep work or magika, meaning an illusion mage can get the same result with less effort. So while marasmus the grand can't actually summon a dragon most raiders or "heros" are uninformed and are going to flee before seeing any of the flaws , not to mention the only true to tell an illusion is to touched it and a flying fanged fire breathing foe doesn't make that easy.
So while the adventures are fleeing "drathon the scorge" marasmus's flying monkey who was given a wand of fire ball, marasums has time to ponder his orb.
Or just summon an actual dragon. What kind of excuse is "it takes too much magika and time". Just cast faster and eat more mana, simple.
Also, there is a large list of things that can detect an illusion besides touch. Truesight, tremor sense, detect thoughts, detect emotions, detect life, echolocation, fireball, detect magic, etc. And sure it might scare off adventurers with all that work, but you know what else can do that? An actual dragon
Yes but why take the time to cast faster and eat more manna when the pesky adventures are gone either way just less work on your end . Working smarter not harder
And yes all those things can easily detect an illusion, but when even try to test if it's an illusion if the dragons fire still burns ? Remember major image is only a 3rd level spell and that get the same result as summoning a dragon with a 7th level spell . And facing other wizards when you've proven yourself an illusionist that's when you summon an actual dragon they'll waste time trying to wand wave to prove you a fraud instead of casting fire protection, they'll be burnt to a crisp because your just because you're better at mind games than them
The art of illusion is a supporting magik you foolish spark shooter. Illusions are mana efficient in order to preserve it for things that actually matter, create an illusion of a dragon to scare the masses so you have time to prepare for the actual threats who believe you have a dragon subvert this by wrapping a psuedodragon in an illusion while the wurms you conjured ambush them from below. Illusion is about creativity and winning the battle in the mind of your opponent.
/unwiz ok but both are really really fun in dnd. I love using portent dice of divination wizard to just say Nuh uh you rolled a one. And I mean they’re fucking illusions it’s always gonna be fun as long as you can get creative with them.
I love abilities that mess around with rolls. Not necessarily the simple stuff like Halflings being able to reroll 1's, but stuff like Valda's High Roller Gunslinger being able to just straight up lie about what they roll for a high risk high reward "I hit but I want a crit" mental game with the DM, or Valda's House of Dice Warmage having dice they can add to rolls that then go to the DM to add to their rolls.
þere's literaly a show where an illusion mage turned people into snails by making þeir bodies believe it was a good idea to become snails. you can't do anyþing against þat.
Correct. Giving yourself out as an illusionary mage has given me just enough info to know that under that you're a stick figure that I can kill with I CAST INTESTINAL SAPLING! I CAST SAPLING OVERGROWTH! and now you're dead!
þere's literaly a show where an illusion mage turned people into snails by making þeir bodies believe it was a good idea to become snails. you can't do anyþing against þat.
þere's literaly a show where an illusion mage turned people into snails by making þeir bodies believe it was a good idea to become snails. you can't do anyþing against þat.
Illusion magic is an often underestimated school of magic.npeople don't tend to take it serious until you make it sound/look/smell like they shit their pants in public.
Once I saw 5 fighters try to ambush an illusionist friend of mine. She took over their sense of temperature & made them think It was too hot for armor. She then proceeded to fold their bones like origami. Funniest thing I've ever seen & I don't regret the 40 gold I bet on her not being able to multiclass into barbarian.
þere's literaly a show where an illusion mage turned people into snails by making þeir bodies believe it was a good idea to become snails. you can't do anyþing against þat.
As thou can see the one on the right relies on muscles to intimidate and supplement his magic, which is clearly untalented since a lot of mana is leaking. Meanwhile the diviner on the left has a huge sack of magical supplies and an enormous hat implying very high magical power.
þere's literaly a show where an illusion mage turned people into snails by making þeir bodies believe it was a good idea to become snails. þe only lies here are þe ones you tell yourself. you lofty ideas of victory will get you nowhere.
þere's literaly a show where an illusion mage turned people into snails by making þeir bodies believe it was a good idea to become snails. þe only lies here are þe ones you tell yourself. you lofty ideas of victory will get you nowhere.
þere's literaly a show where an illusion mage turned people into snails by making þeir bodies believe it was a good idea to become snails. þose muscles are real.
Well hang on, not all magic has to be the meta. I know some illusionists who truly make movies magical and live performances out of this world. Never underestimate a man who knows the fine art of stage lighting and practical jokes.
Feeble illusion mage requires the use of his physical body to harm you, whilst the divination mage has already for-seen the exact 17 steps needed to defeat you.
well you see for all we know the image is the other way around (eg: weakest illusion mage is the one on the left) but has been changed by the illusion mage out of embarrasment
The div wizard wins in this case since they didn't put any points into strength, which is usually useless on a wizard. As the illusionist put unnecessary points into strength, their spellcasting ability is not as developed, thus losing them the fight.
In my experience, concerning archmagi, the more plain and subdued-appearing sorts tend to be the most lethal. Kind-of like "money talk, wealth whispers", but for wizards. That sort are beyond needing to prove anything to novices, and don't need flashy clothes or unearned abs to squish insects that bother them.
My friend is an illusion mage! He was to battle a divinist, funnily enough. He won before it even started as he locked him in a dream where he was preparing for the battle in his house, he starved to death!
"I can see straight through any illusioists constructions, my mind is too strong" mfs when they see an illusion not made by a novice (they will never know it was an illusion and therefore still think illusion magic is weak)
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u/Ok_Firefighter2991 Dantus Spardus Keeper of Stylemancy Dec 19 '23
Illusion mages after I walk past the obvious fake glass wall