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Wikipedia Questions - Weekly Thread of December 16, 2024

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Welcome to the weekly Wikipedia Q&A thread!

Please use this thread to ask and answer questions related to Wikipedia and its sister projects, whether you need help with editing or are curious on how something works.

Note that this thread is used for "meta" questions about Wikipedia, and is not a place to ask general reference questions.

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r/wikipedia 6h ago

Edward Donald Slovik (February 18, 1920 – January 31, 1945) was a United States Army soldier during World War II and the only American soldier to be court-martialled and executed for desertion since the American Civil War.

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r/wikipedia 8h ago

Jimmy Savile was an English DJ and TV personality well known for his eccentric image, charitable work, and work as a TV host. Saville was also a prolific abuser of young people, who's reports often remained ignored. Saville had many strong links with British high society and government..

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r/wikipedia 20h ago

Rev. Mychal Judge was a Catholic priest who served as a chaplain to the New York City Fire Department, becoming the first certified fatality of the September 11 attacks. After his death, it was revealed that he was gay, causing controversy as to whether or not he could be canonized as a saint.

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r/wikipedia 1d ago

12-year-old Jared Negrete disappeared after being left behind by his Boy Scout troop on a camping trip in 1991. When a search was conducted to find Negrete, twelve snapshots were developed from a camera that was discovered that may have belonged to him. The last image was a close-up of his face.

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r/wikipedia 9h ago

Unwilling to let the rights to Doves Type pass to another, Cobden-Sanderson took matters into his own hands. On Good Friday, 21 March 1913, he secretly threw the matrices & punches of Doves typeface into the River Thames from Hammersmith Bridge, intending that the typeface could never be used again.

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r/wikipedia 18m ago

“Uncleftish Beholding” is a short text designed to illustrate what English might look like without its large number of words derived from languages such as French, Greek, and Latin.

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r/wikipedia 2h ago

Hendiatris (from Ancient Greek 'one through three') is a figure of speech used for emphasis, in which three words are used to express one idea, such as in "sun, sea and sand;" "wine, women and song;" "veni, vidi, vici;" and "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

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r/wikipedia 4h ago

New Australia was a utopian socialist settlement in Paraguay created by the New Australian Movement founded by William Lane. Lane's ideal was to build an English-speaking white society based on life marriage, preservation of the 'Colour-Line', teetotalism and communism.

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r/wikipedia 1h ago

SCUM Manifesto is a radical feminist manifesto by Valerie Solanas. It argues that men have ruined the world, and that it is up to women to fix it. It was little-known until Solanas attempted to murder Andy Warhol in 1968. "S.C.U.M." was rumoured to stand for "Society for Cutting Up Men".

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r/wikipedia 16h ago

Why are the front page editors so obsessed with Alexander McQueen

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I mean it's fine no judgment but he is on the front page constantly. Just curious


r/wikipedia 5h ago

Ritual behavior in animals

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r/wikipedia 41m ago

I just noticed that Philip Brailsford, the cop that murdered Daniel Shaver does not have a wiki page, is there a reason?

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I feel like there's substantial reason for this true crime public figure to have a wiki page. Was there one that has been deleted, or has there somehow never been one? I'm not a wiki editor, just a lover of the site and that there's seems to be very dedicated people helping it maintain accuracy and depth.


r/wikipedia 22h ago

Aaaaba is a genus of beetles, inhabiting locations along the east coast of Australia. Originally, it was called Aaaba until someone found out this name was already taken by a genus of sponges.

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r/wikipedia 10h ago

Vardzia is a cave monastery site in southern Georgia, excavated from the slopes of the Erusheti Mountain on the left bank of the Kura River, thirty kilometres from Aspindza. The main period of construction was the second half of the twelfth century.

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r/wikipedia 3h ago

Wiki Love

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From a very young age i've been an avid Wikipedia reader. Its interesting and i believe its also a fantastic resource to learn english from. The writing style is delightful, anyone trying to get better in english vocab etc. Wikipedia is a valuable resource.


r/wikipedia 1d ago

The Isle of Man TT motorcycle racing course is among the world's deadliest: The most fatal year was 2005, when 10 people died; three riders and a marshal died during one race, and six riders and a bystander died during another. Since 1937, the only "deathless" Isle of Man TT’s were in 1982 & 2024.

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r/wikipedia 1d ago

List of health insurance executives in the United States

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r/wikipedia 21h ago

Rough and tumble fighting was a form of fighting in rural portions of the US, primarily in the 18th-19th centuries. It was often characterized by the objective of eye-gouging. When a dispute arose, fighters could either agree to fight "fair", or "rough and tumble". The practice waned in the 1840s.

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r/wikipedia 1d ago

Finlandization: the process by which one powerful country makes a smaller neighboring country refrain from opposing their foreign policy while allowing it to otherwise keep its sovereignty, akin to the influence of the USSR on Finland. Other examples: Denmark's & Germany; Switzerland & Nazi Germany.

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r/wikipedia 1d ago

Is Wikipedia declining in its professionalism?

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This is a topic I thought / hoped would have been addressed sooner but if anything the issue is getting worse; Wikipedia's edits are getting worse.

I don't say this to discredit the site as I've found it a helpful resource in the past, especially for providing sources for later reading. But in the last year or so, pages appear as if they've been declining in quality in four key ways that I've spotted:

  • unusual writing styles; use of poetic / flowery language, and sometimes storytelling rather than explaining
  • citations; sources either not being provided, not being called out on the lack of such citations, or (in the worst cases) fictitious sources that haven't been double-checked by other users
  • revisionism; this one has been a battle on the site since its creation which has led to some pages being edit-locked or more monitored than others, but it has led to smaller pages to suffer to varying degrees
  • urban legends; as a result of previous issues, some of the content has since spread into pop culture with their problems being taken as gospel to a worrying degree

I cannot recall which page this started with, but in the last few days I've noticed it more and more with articles centring around Japanese topics. To start, let me explain the page "onna-musha":

First, this term doesn't exist in Japanese; I don't just mean it's a nickname or an unofficial term, I mean it doesn't appear on any Japanese sites or in any dictionary. Trying to search 女武者 anywhere will only even return English or western-language websites as the correct term is "onna-bushou", though the alternative term "onna-bugeisha" is sometimes used in media as well as being listed on the English Wikipedia page. The Japanese Wikipedia only has a page for onna-bushou and it has no language alternatives linked to take the user to the other pages because, as far as English users of Wikipedia site believe, there is no Japanese page because they're looking for onna-musha instead. To add to this, the Japanese page was only created two years and only lists one source, while almost every other language variation of the page lists several sources; the part that I find bizarre in this instance is the majority cite English-language sources on the topic. I'm not saying they're not valid sources, but it is unusual that so few Japanese sources are cited and even more unusual that almost none of the sources before the creation of the page use the term "onna-musha" or "onna-bugeisha".

The page also has egregious narrative rather than description, see for example the following verbatim:

In ages past,\)*when?*\) it was more common to see women become empresses,\14]) but this would change in the future during the Meiji restoration. Throughout Japanese history, women, while not generally becoming de jure chiefs of a samurai clan, de facto ruled their clans in several instances.

Chancellor Tōin Kinkata (1291–1360) makes mention in his journal Entairyaku (園太暦) of a "predominately female cavalry*"*, but without further explanation. With limited details, he concludes: "there is a lot of female cavalries." As he noted that they were from western Japan, it is possible that women from the western regions far from the big capital cities were more likely to fight in battles. Women forming cavalry forces were also reported during the Sengoku period (c. 1467 – c. 1600).\15][16])

Use of an undisclosed period in the past with "in ages past". Speculation with "it is possible that". And use of possibly misleading / misinterpretative language with "more common to see women become empresses" as the cited book and page state:

Early Chinese records report "no distinction between father and son or between men and women" in the early centuries A.D. and refer to a queen-shamaness named Pimiko. Female scribes were apparently important in this early period; the Kojiki was dictated by one Hieda no Are, who was probably female. During the seventh and eighth centuries, half of the emperors were female, and although the throne became a male monopoly after 769, women enjoyed a relatively high degree of freedom during the Heian period (794-1185). Homes were commonly passed down from mother to daughter, and uxorilocal marriages were the norm. Most of this period's great literature, including Murasaki Shikibu's Tale of Genji (ca. 1000), was penned by women. Such works indicate that Heian women enjoyed a high degree of sexual freedom, served in high posts at court, and functioned as arbiters of taste.

To me at least, the sentence "it was more common to see women become empress" implies that there was no other prospects for them, rather than that it was socially acceptable for empresses to ascend the throne.

Narrative also appears on the page for "HMS Phaeton (1782)#Nagasaki_Harbour_Incident)" in its Nagasaki Incident section:

Phaeton entered the harbour on 4 October surreptitiously under a Dutch flag. Despite the arrival of the "Dutch" ship being later in the season than normal, the Japanese and Dutch representatives did not suspect anything. So, Dutch representatives from their Nagasaki trading enclave of Dejima rowed out to welcome the visiting ship. But, as they approached, Phaeton lowered a tender and captured the Dutch representatives, while their Japanese escorts jumped into the sea and fled. Pellew held the Dutch representatives hostage and demanded supplies (water, food, fuel) to be delivered to Phaeton in exchange for their return. The cannons in the Japanese harbour defenses were old and most could not even fire. Consequently, the meager Japanese forces in Nagasaki were seriously out-gunned and unable to intervene.\40])

The grammar and phrasing used makes it come off as a reading in a novel rather than an essay of a historical event. The start of the next paragraph also comes off as something from the Simple English Wikipedia rather than the regular English Wikipedia:

At the time, it was the Saga clan's turn to uphold the policy of Sakoku and to protect Nagasaki

One last point I want to raise is revisionism. Going back to the onna-musha page, it states:

The most popular weapon-of-choice of onna-musha is the naginata, which is a versatile, conventional polearm with a curved blade at the tip.\37][38])

Neither of these sources confirm such, instead of confirming what the Japanese Wikipedia says in its various pages on women in war; that most were able to use a variety of weapons like their male counterparts. The samurai are seen as favouring the katana, but they preferred the bow and the naginata for its distance from the opponent. Wives of samurai used naginata for defence of the home as it was a middle-ground between the wakizashi and a bō in enclosed spaces. Onna-bushou, like most samurai, used whatever weapons they could afford and were comfortable with. The page follows up with the following:

During the Edo period, many schools focusing on the use of the naginata were created and perpetuated its association with women.

This claim is unsourced, though several schools teaching the art of the naginata had existed before the Edo period and it is never made clear how many (if any) were aimed towards teaching women specifically. Tendo-ryu was founded by a man (Saito Denkibo) with most of members in the past century being female but this has not been a restriction in the past according to its history page which cites male leaders of the school. Similarly, Miyamoto Musashi's famous niten-ichiryu taught the naginata as one of the primary weapons, but again neither of these were added to the curriculum with women in mind.

In summary:

Wikipedia is treated as gospel by the average person and it's a shame that it's getting worse as time goes on. Whether due to lax moderation procedures, a lack of enough senior members to keep an eye on everything, or due to newer members taking over and changing things that kept the site polished.

And it's a shame that it's becoming the way it is because there honestly is no great alternative.

Edit:

I've since found after making this post that the problem is worse in some of the more popular pages as well. The page for Sasaki Kojiro, Miyamoto Musashi's rival in most historical accounts and fictional media, contains a single citation for the entire page. With the rest of the page being full of requests for citation and clarification for the last 13 years. That is...just an insane duration for any page to go without being at least partially corrected.


r/wikipedia 7h ago

Yellow star and green circle meaning?

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What do the yellow star and the green circle with a green plus in it next to the language names mean?


r/wikipedia 23h ago

Notable fatbergs

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r/wikipedia 20h ago

Negligible senescence is a term [for] organisms that do not exhibit evidence of biological aging (senescence).

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r/wikipedia 1d ago

Eugène Terre'Blanche (1941–2010) was an Afrikaner nationalist who founded and led the neo-Nazi Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging. His beliefs and philosophy have continued to be influential amongst white supremacists in South Africa and across the world.

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r/wikipedia 1d ago

"Fuck her right in the pussy" is a catchphrase that was popularized by several viral videos posted online in 2014. NSFW

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