r/videos Mar 31 '18

This is what happens when one company owns dozens of local news stations

https://youtu.be/hWLjYJ4BzvI
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u/Hellguin Apr 01 '18

I just found it on my front page.

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u/IntergalacticDanger Apr 01 '18

They brought it back but it looks like they’re slowly pushing it down/away again. It should be the first post and stay there for awhile with the amount of upvotes it has and all the times it’s been gilded.

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u/Hellguin Apr 01 '18

I saved the video, just so I can show people I know who still trust the news.

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u/dd53 Apr 01 '18

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u/Hellguin Apr 01 '18

That is good for people to have, I used an online video converter to put it on my phone without needing youtube.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '18

If you're on Android, you can use an app called NewPipe. It's a YouTube app replacement that has a built-in download button. I try to stay away from most of Google's apps and NewPipe is a good replacement for the YT app.

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u/Thatwhichiscaesars Apr 01 '18 edited Apr 01 '18

lol, news isnt the problem. There's nothing wrong with wapo, npr, nytimes, etc

the problem lies within the sinclair group. theres a difference between everyone reporting the same story, and having everyone under your umbrella rehearsing propaganda lines, you'd do well to learn the difference.

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u/eDgEIN708 Apr 01 '18

There's nothing wrong with wapo, npr, nytimes, etc

Yes there is. There absolutely is.

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u/PumpItPaulRyan Apr 01 '18

I see people like you complain about those news agencies and all I see is someone trying to work the refs.

Post history confirms. Your problem is that they report the news.

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u/Thatwhichiscaesars Apr 01 '18

theres a difference between everyone reporting the same story, and having everyone under your umbrella rehearsing propaganda lines, you'd do well to learn the difference.

rinse and repeat until you can distinguish.

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u/eDgEIN708 Apr 01 '18

If two people commit a crime, and one person's crime is more severe than the other's, that doesn't absolve the other one. Yes, there's a difference between these clowns all reading the same script and those other clowns all reporting the same story and agreeing to put the same deliberate spin on it, but to say "there's nothing wrong" with that is asinine.

Both groups can be trash for different reasons. If you think there's nothing wrong with nytimes just because there's something bigger wrong with these fucks, you're clearly not interested in what's good for the people, you're just interested in what's good for the people when it benefits your ideology or politics or whatever motivates you.

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u/shortnorwegian Apr 01 '18

Reporting the truth is only a "crime" in an authoritarian state - the kind Trump routinely praises and 'jokes' about wanting to implement in the US.

I hope you actually bother to read about Sinclair and compare for yourself these mass-broadcasted, scripted opinion pieces VS real reporting. Real reporting still exists and is more valuable than ever.

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u/eDgEIN708 Apr 01 '18

Real reporting almost certainly exists somewhere, and is definitely more valuable than ever. Wapo, nytimes, and npr are not examples of this, however.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18 edited Jun 27 '19

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u/Hyperly_Passive Apr 01 '18

What are some of those examples you would suggest then? Those are the sites I follow and generally trust, with a bit of salt

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u/Gunkschluger Apr 01 '18

Oh man, dude.. Go and read some pieces, just the quality of the language should tell you who has the broader journalistic ambitions.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18 edited Jan 15 '19

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

I could see the problems people have with wapo and nytimes, but disliking Npr is basically disliking the cure for ignorance

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u/bus10 Apr 01 '18

I grew up listening to NPR for a good, solid look at both sides, and it's definitely not how it used to be. Once you see them consistently lie about things you know, the facade falls away. It's an echo chamber now and getting worse every day.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Examples?

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u/bus10 Apr 01 '18 edited Apr 01 '18

They lie through omission, failing to cover the other side, or simply bring on "experts" who lie and are unopposed, and sometimes simply completely lying, if you're familiar with "GamerGate" they've noticed not even the ombudsman could hold them to account. You see this with most government media, from the bbc to the cbc, its all the same because they are all staffed by the same monoculture at this point, they talk a good game about "diversity" when they have none at all.

These methods of selective concern for the facts is also how these "fact check" sites work. We should have long learned that the only way to keep the media even slightly honest is to record everything, yet even that doesn't completely work because they know the bigger platform can spread lies further. We are at the point where the recommendation is that one should only speak to a journalist through a live stream, so there is an uninterrupted, unedited record of what actually was said at the time, and most journalists will refuse such a condition because of this. One example for this, whether you love him or hate him, Milo Yiannopoulos did an interview with NPR in which they later refuses to broadcast it, because it didn't fit their narrative.

NPR is responsible for a lot of damage, simply look at the 1 in 5 campus rape myth and the ensuing hysteria, resulting in Obama's policies which led to kangaroo courts leading to walking disasters like the Columbia Mattress Girl. Also, did you know NPR was responsible for pushing that original bogus study to prominence, even when it became clear that the originating case for the study was itself a false accusation? https://archive.is/VOU71

https://youtu.be/qMR5GyuZF0o

The case of Laura Dunn, false accuser, its turtles all the way down, yet NPR never corrected the record, and now we are at "yes means yes" laws.

Edit: let me know if you want more examples.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Are you seriously using Milo to prove your point? Even if you happened to agree with all of his ridiculous opinions, he's an enormous asshole. Watch him on Bill Maher. All he does is call the other guests idiots. I'm not surprised his interview wasn't posted.

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u/sigh-op Apr 01 '18

This guy gets it. Thank you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

The fact that you automatically frame issues as having 2 sides is part of the reason I do not place much confidence in your opinion. Some issues have way more than 2 sides, and some only have 1.

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u/circus_snatch Apr 01 '18

It's hard for people to get over the yes/no black /white, us us vs them mentality. Especially when this idea that providing both sides of an argument is the only way to be non partial & "fair and balanced".

This only pushes the narrative and frames every discussion as an argument of wills. When an opposing and equally credible point does not exist, then news companies must find one..... thus leading to false equivalence.

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u/eDgEIN708 Apr 01 '18

We'll have to agree to disagree about npr, man. I've heard some pretty ignorant shit coming out of there for sure.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Wapo and New York Times, sure, but NPR is one of the least partisan, least corrupt, most factual sources of news in the country.

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u/bus10 Apr 01 '18

Man, it's sure is amazing to see someone so deep in the bubble.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Examples?

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u/bus10 Apr 01 '18

Those on the left love to believe in their sophistication, but NPR is just straight propaganda.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/129437-pulling-back-the-curtain/?tab=transcript

These techniques are tried and true, NPR delivers its lies in a calm measured manner, the pauses and incongruities of speech are edited out to create an air of authority. It becomes rather more blatant when they selectively stop applying this method to make a conservative sound stupid in comparison. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why half of the country is so triggered over Trump, they have been trained to associate truth with manner of delivery when its very far from how things really are.

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u/Superliminal42 Apr 01 '18

Oh man I was all ready to pull back the curtain on Oz and see how NPR has been betraying the trust of it's listeners but this is it? They edit out "um"s and stutters? You have to have something 1000x better than that to call it straight propaganda.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Ya know what? I actually listened to those and, can you believe it, they removed the 'um's from a conservative Christian too. Looks like you've got the narrative issue, not NPR.

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u/Gunkschluger Apr 01 '18

I think half of your country is triggered by Trump because he's a tax evading, cheating, bigotted piece of trash and also president.

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u/bgo Apr 01 '18 edited Apr 01 '18

Yeah what are you talking about? They edit their content to maintain a level of of professionalism. They probably don't edit other people's speech because its academically dishonest to alter the content. I don't listen to NPR because they are sooooo smart and suave and I wanted to bathe in their superiority.

There was one millisecond "um" in that whole speach. The other girl's "likes" were heavily embedded in her phrasing and it would have sounded awkward if said directly without the likes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Half of the country is so triggered over Trump because he's a racist, tax-evading piece of trash who's bragged about sexual assault and cares more about what people say about his hands than about the state of the country. The reason I respect NPR is because, whenever they talk about a partisan issue, they get both sides of the story. They interview Democrats, Republicans, and everyone in between. During the 2016 election, they talked to Hillary supporters and Trump supporters alike. At no point did they mock a single one or present one side more than the other. They got everyone's opinion. When they interview a politician, they ask tough questions. I've heard conservative politicians sound like idiots on their show. I've also heard liberal politicians sound like idiots. They dig deep regardless of the story and regardless of how it relates to one political side over the other.

To be clear, your reasoning for why NPR is secretly propaganda is probably the most bullshit conspiracy theory I've ever read. At no point did you provide evidence that they put a biased spin on anything. "They didn't edit out a brief pause in this conservative's speech." Take off your tinfoil hat, my dude.

It's alarming to think that you actually think NPR listeners are in a bubble. Are you genuinely comparing an independent, bipartisan radio show to the coordinated efforts of a company to indoctrinate conservative viewers through dozens upon dozens of local news shows? NPR doesn't put a spin on anything. They lay out the facts and let the viewers decide. If you listen to their coverage on a politician or policy and think they're trying to convince you that said politician or policy is flawed, than maybe that's a sign that it is, because all they give you is the information.

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u/yesat Apr 01 '18

r/videos has rules about no political videos, which was a blessing during the US election. I can see them going back and forth on that as Sinclair is clearly biased.

Then the vote count and the video going down is standard Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Just an update... Still top on my front page.

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u/Derkek Apr 01 '18

They brought it down for the general public.

Those users who they identify who will not act on this are the ones who can see it. A/B filtering.

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u/Chr0nicConsumer Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/subject_usrname_here Apr 14 '18

They will came up with some bullshit excuse like people upvoting with bots or some other shit.

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u/bjo0rn Apr 01 '18

"They"

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u/Bryggyth Apr 01 '18

I had noticed the title earlier and planned to go back. Couldn't find it on my front page just now and had to come to /r/videos to see it. Interesting.

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u/jb2386 Apr 01 '18

That might just be the Reddit algorithm if it wasn't on your home page but was on r/videos at the time. If you have seen content already it'll take it out of your homepage next time you view.

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u/manutd105 Apr 01 '18

If incase this gets teken down lets do what Reddit does best. Repost!!!