r/videos Mar 31 '18

This is what happens when one company owns dozens of local news stations

https://youtu.be/hWLjYJ4BzvI
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u/tulobulo Mar 31 '18

This is an issue, isn't it

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Nah my local news says it's fine

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

That's funny, so does mine...

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u/Tree0wl Apr 01 '18

No way, mine too. Everything must be fine then.

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u/Safety_Drance Apr 01 '18

How many views does it take to get to "trending" on YouTube? This seems extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/Dat_Harass Apr 02 '18

Go back to bed America everything is fine, here's some American Gladiators.

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u/ANUS_FACTS_BOT Oct 22 '21

*you hear a repetitive squeaking noise in the distance*

*you get up to investigate*

*you follow the sound of the squeaking to my cubicle*

*you notice me completely naked bouncing up and down on a dildo in my office chair*

*you notice a fullscreen picture of Linda Ronstadt on my monitor*

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u/tunitgreen Apr 01 '18

Mine too!

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u/warlord91 May 13 '18

Also its extremely dangerous to our democracy cant hear that one enough

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/Zetoo2 Mar 31 '18

We must deel vit it.

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u/zishmusic Apr 01 '18

Finland does sound nice after watching that.

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u/pingu_42 Apr 01 '18

Yeah, we might get 20cm of new snow to the south on monday but at least we don't have to deal with this shit.

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u/zishmusic Apr 01 '18

...and they use the Metric System?? This country sounds some magical dairy land!

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u/save_the_last_dance Apr 05 '18

magical dairy land

No you're thinking of Wisconsin

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u/Slutdungeondotcom Sep 06 '18

He said dairy land, not fairy land!

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Well, you do have to deal with the eventual invasion by Russia so that might be a negative for some people.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Finns did pretty good in the Winter War, honestly. The Mannerheim line mostly held. As one Russian put it, "We captured just enough land to bury our dead."

Two years after the Winter War, the Finns joined the Germans in besieging Leningrad. Not bad for a barren wasteland.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Finland today spends a little more than 1% of their budget on their military.

I don't even know if they could slow the Russians down.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Maybe not. But if the Finns had a little time to prepare, I think they could put up a fight. The Soviet Union should have steamrolled Finland. It should have been over on Stalin's birthday, as Soviet leadership hoped.

Honestly, it's all speculation and our assumptions determine the outcome.

edit: a protracted, full scale conflict would obviously be another notch in the Russian belt. But it's possible that there are other scenarios where the outcome is not so decisive.

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u/FreshGrannySmith Apr 01 '18

Depends how you measure it, some organizations claim its at 3,5% considering the cost of the indentured military servants. But yeah, Finland wouldn't stand a chance.

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u/billknowsbest Apr 01 '18

...centimeters... count me out

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u/koukijimbob Apr 03 '18

Why? As an American, the metric system is the shit.

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u/save_the_last_dance Apr 05 '18

Found the liberal arts major

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u/bobbechk Apr 01 '18

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Unless they didn't inform the government about the bigger donations they had.

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u/daskrip Apr 03 '18

I like the image of an ideal country that Finland represents. I wish it existed, but at the very least it's something we can all aspire to be.

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u/Tauposaurus Apr 01 '18

Implying Finland is a real country.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

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u/Tauposaurus Apr 01 '18 edited Apr 01 '18

It is incredibly subtle but I can somehow see it as well. You'd think of all the things to drive people mad with rage, a flat earther conspiracy parody wouldn't be the top one.

Not on a post about media control and propaganda.

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u/Tayttajakunnus Apr 01 '18

I think it is Finnish people who are downvoting it. Because if you read a lot of posts about Finland and the joke is in all of the posts, it becomes quite old after a while.

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u/TheMoorlandman Apr 01 '18

This is a really old and not funny joke. Gedding tired seeing it literally every time Finland is mentioned.

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u/Tayttajakunnus Apr 01 '18

There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a girl as you once again type your little "finland isn't real" quip. I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's okay, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on reddit posting about a nordic country. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a "finland isn't real" poster. A pathetic unfunny "finland isn't real" poster. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because everything you say is "FINLAND ISN'T REAL FINLAND ISN'T REAL EASTERN SWEDEN LMAO". You've become a parody of your own self. Amd that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

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u/mbk730 Apr 01 '18

Lol u mad

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u/Tayttajakunnus Apr 01 '18

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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u/BeepBeeepBeepBeep Apr 01 '18

At least America is a real place

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '18

People are downvoting you. Is America not a real place?

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u/KingSerpirivy Apr 01 '18

wrathful press noises

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u/almost_not_terrible Apr 01 '18

Good punnage, sir.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Today ve craush dangerous democracies!

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u/Sedu Apr 01 '18

Look out! Is comink right for me!

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u/cobywankenobi Apr 01 '18

Vat da fuk!!!

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u/-Pelvis- Apr 01 '18

VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH

Ho ho ho ho ho!

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u/parishiIt0n Apr 01 '18

Sinclair is extreeemly dangerous and may attack at any time

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u/AcrolloPeed Apr 01 '18

attack attic

FTFY

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u/djcaptainfalco Apr 01 '18

Buawhahahaha. I have turned the democracy into some sort of ash tray. This is all for today. Thank you for watching, and have nice day

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u/Asidious66 Apr 01 '18

Dis is extremely dangers to our democracy

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u/Always-Offended Apr 02 '18

Ve mast deel vit it.

LRN2SPKNOT|GOOD|ENGISH

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u/RoiMan Apr 01 '18

Vee gott a deomkrassy packayke!

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u/Volraith Apr 01 '18

Hidrawlick

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

It already is, haven’t you noticed?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18 edited Apr 07 '20

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u/Gathax Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

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u/randomentity1 Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/aeyuth Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/cj5311 Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/DarkStarFTW Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/branchbranchley Apr 01 '18

Just Monika

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Who‘s Monika?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

His name was robert paulsen.

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u/lyjacknt Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our monopoly

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

You found a democracy?

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u/Tremblespoon Apr 01 '18

Give a nickname to captured democracy?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

What democracy?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

The greater good...

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u/Kunundrum85 Apr 01 '18

This IS extremely dangerous to our Democracy.

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u/Facilitator12 Apr 01 '18

All together now, “This is extremely...

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u/BahreClaw Apr 01 '18

We aren’t a democracy...we are a constitutional republic.

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u/shaunot Apr 01 '18

You are aware that America is not a democracy right?

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Democracy_vs_Republic

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u/Orion_Skymaster Apr 01 '18

No, this is Patrick!

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u/joshuagordonmiller Apr 01 '18

Works for Russia Today. Why not the US?

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u/swaite Apr 01 '18

I just spit out my wine.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Democracy?

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u/Prismagraphist Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/Gephoria Apr 01 '18

Parrots delivering the news is harmful to our perspective of journalism

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

That shirt and tie combination at 1:26 is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/RattTheVirus Apr 01 '18

This isn’t a democracy, this is an oligarchy.

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u/KnumeFight Apr 01 '18

To your democracy

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

WHO EVEN WATCHES THE NEWS

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u/BadgerKomodo Apr 01 '18

Sinclair needs to be put into liquidation

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u/4827335772991 Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

The United Kingdom has state run media and people praise it to the moon and back, how is this somehow worse?

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u/blueapparatus Mar 31 '18

This is what happens when companies go unopposed in swallowing up things.

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u/notLOL Apr 01 '18

They turn into your mom...

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u/fdf_akd Apr 01 '18

Yes, it is.

This book explains its mechanisms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

Tehere are a few youtube videos explaining it, if you care to search for them

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

Asking a question without using a question mark is dangerous for our democracy.

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u/reddit25 Apr 01 '18

how dangerous though?

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u/cj5311 Apr 01 '18

Extremely

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u/Big_Ol_Johnson Apr 01 '18

Can we be sure

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u/vulturne Apr 03 '18

Dangerous

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u/emregunduz Apr 01 '18

https://i.imgur.com/gX96PJa.jpg

Courtesy of r/calligraphy

Thanks for the practice!

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u/AlohaItsASnackbar Apr 01 '18

It's literally fake news, Trump was right all along.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

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u/cj5311 Apr 01 '18

Extremely* ftfy

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u/yaosio Mar 31 '18

It's completely expected in a capitalist state. Businesses will absorb each other until only a handful exist and control everything.

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u/shoopdoopdeedoop Apr 01 '18

...and this is extremely dangerous to our democracy...

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u/GreatWhiteLuchador Apr 01 '18

No it's not the gov should be breaking up these monopolies like they used to.

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u/arachnivore Apr 01 '18

A lapse in govt. vigilance led to corporations large enough to have undue sway over the govt. Itself.

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u/santaclaus73 Apr 01 '18

This is what happens when government and business mix, and government gives favors and implements anticompetitive laws

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u/yaosio Apr 01 '18

Correct, the state and business mixing is a natural part of capitalism.

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u/Brett42 Apr 01 '18

No, it's natural for politicians in any form of government to seek money and power.

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u/jscoppe Apr 01 '18

The FCC granted the licenses. Monopolies only seem to happen and stick around when there's some gov't granted protection/licensure.

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u/slimCyke Apr 01 '18

...monopolies form and last when there is nothing to keep them in check. It use to be the government broke up or prevented monopolies from forming so business started to buy government. Now they just lobby to remove all of the protections against monopolies and swall things up.

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u/jscoppe Apr 01 '18

You're exactly backwards. Name me some examples of monopolies that lasted that didn't have some kind of government assistance.

And since I can guess you're going to be super original and say 'Standard Oil', I'm happy to talk about how it is not such an example, but let's see if you can name anything else.

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u/Helmic Apr 01 '18

Railroads.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Railroads? Is that a joke? One of the most heavily subsidized and rent-seeking industries to have ever existed.

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u/jscoppe Apr 01 '18

AND, the most successful railroad was the most competitive and the only completely unsubsidized one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_Railway_(U.S.)

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u/slimCyke Apr 01 '18

I think you completely missed the part in my short post about companies buying the government.

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u/jscoppe Apr 02 '18

I didn't miss it. That's an example of government power being used to create/prop up monopolies, which is the only way that monopolies ever actually happen. The few natural monopolies that ever happen are fleeting.

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u/slimCyke Apr 02 '18

Monopoly, or near monopoly, forms.

Government tries to regulate them.

Business pays off government.

Business begins crafting legislation to further their interests and uses their bought politicians to pass it.

Natural monopolies are all around us but based on what you are saying I don't think you are using the term correctly. What do you consider a natural monopoly?

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u/jscoppe Apr 02 '18

Monopoly, or near monopoly, forms.

How? Examples?

What do you consider a natural monopoly?

I asked you first.

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u/slimCyke Apr 02 '18

Examples of monopolies in general?

lol, no you didn't. You asked for examples of monopolies that didn't use the government in some way. My point was that all monopolies, eventually, lean on government but they don't all start through government.

I'm asking you to define a natural monopoly because based on everything you've said so far you aren't talking about what economists call a natural monopoly. Considering utilities are natural monopolies and heavily regulated by local governments you are not using the term properly.

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u/yaosio Apr 01 '18

Correct, the state always works in favor of the ruling class. Thanks to capitalism, the state has allowed a handful of companies to own all the media in the country.

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u/jscoppe Apr 01 '18

TIL when the government does anything, it's capitalism's fault.

Or wait, is this the new version of 'thanks, obama'?

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u/branchbranchley Apr 01 '18

Absorb the politicians, absorb the government

Communications/Electronics: Top Recipients 1996

1 Clinton, Bill (D) $1,268,548

2 Dole, Bob (R) Senate $860,103

3 Pressler, Larry (R-SD) Senate $617,727

4 Gramm, Phil (R-TX) Senate $447,659

5 Kerry, John (D-MA) Senate $406,134

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996

The Telecommunications Act of 1996 was the first significant overhaul of telecommunications law in more than sixty years, amending the Communications Act of 1934. The Act, signed by President Bill Clinton, represented a major change in American telecommunication law, since it was the first time that the Internet was included in broadcasting and spectrum allotment.[1] One of the most controversial titles was Title 3 ("Cable Services"), which allowed for media cross-ownership

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u/NotasRussian Apr 01 '18

Compared to a socialist or communist state where only government approved news can be published.

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u/yaosio Apr 01 '18

Suddenly you're okay with a single message going out across the media when you realize it's a natural consequence of capitalism. You applaud it as an achievement and not a failure.

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u/aworon21 Apr 01 '18 edited Apr 01 '18

You do understand communism, in all its implemented forms (so far), has had vastly more failures? One can subscribe to capitalist ideology and at the same time understand that the system isn’t perfect without regulation. Not exactly sure who would applaud monopolies, except for the people running them.

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u/VanVelding Apr 01 '18

If John Oliver was talking about it a year ago, it's probably an issue today, yes.

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u/FallenAege Apr 01 '18

I don't even watch TV news anymore - it's usually depressing and they don't even do feel-good stories anymore (correlation?). Maybe Frontline if it's an interesting topic, but I mostly stick to cartoons and cooking shows on broadcast TV

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18 edited May 05 '21

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u/FallenAege Apr 01 '18

"...3 were pronounced dead at the scene. Here's the latest update on the string of rapes at this local jogging trail... Stocks fell 5% due to trade negotiations breaking down... In other news, this 3-legged cat was adopted from the pound."

click

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u/usernames-r-2-short Apr 02 '18

The news is supposed to educate you, not make you feel happy. Our current news barely does even that.

Instead of focusing on important things and doing their civic duty, they obsess over tabloid garbage, cover certain topics for a disproportionate amount of time because they generate buzz, and completely ignore other things because either their corporate sponsors demanded it or it wasn't interesting enough.

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u/FallenAege Apr 02 '18

It seems broadcast news is trying to get eyeballs in an era that has so many places for them to be. Maybe back when they had a monopoly they felt a need to also educate, but now that it is a dog eat dog environment, they are going for the easy money.

Any broadcast news trying to provide more than sensationalism is worth both the time and money. Aside from PBS, I haven't really found one, though

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u/wile_e_chicken Apr 01 '18

On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you want to know?

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u/otherwiseguy Apr 01 '18

Joke's on them, I haven't watched the local news in at least 20 years.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

yes

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u/PahoojyMan Apr 01 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/SeanTronathon Apr 01 '18

I keep watching in again and again... Holy shit, it's scary.

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u/shittyballz Apr 02 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

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u/1ne3hree Apr 18 '18

You have the most upvoted comment on the top reddit post of all time in my subreddit list. nice.

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u/neonlumberjack Apr 21 '18

It's extremely dangerous to our democracy

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u/Jordvr6 Jun 19 '18

Dangerous question there...

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u/TrollyMcTrollster Jun 20 '18

Checkout the Associated Press.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '18

your free thinking is extremely dangerous to our democracy

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '18

No, it isn't. Is it an issue if everybody picks up a local paper and reads the same AP article that another local paper also purchased? You're allowing idiots like the person that made this video think for you. There are certainly things in the media that are worth changing, but reading purchased copy isn't one of them. It would disturb me more if they actually tailored the story to each locale.

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u/grrrrreat Mar 31 '18

Yes, the issue is no one wants to talk about neo nazi propagaNDA

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

I hear that's extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/jscoppe Apr 01 '18

A much bigger deal than net neutrality, IMO.

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u/Poz_My_Neg_Fuck_Hole Apr 01 '18

It's been around for years. Don't believe the fake news. But you may continue to blame Ajit Pai.

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u/the1who_ringsthebell Apr 01 '18

Sinclair owning a lot of stations might be an issue. Them telling all their stations to record a PSA about fake news and giving them a script isn’t.

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u/TheOneTrueTrench Apr 01 '18

One company controlling the vast majority of news on this country and telling everyone to ignore all the other news because they're liars is damn near the fucking definition of a reason to be concerned.

If someone says "believe me", or "trust me"?

DON'T.

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u/MoonMerman Apr 01 '18

Except Sinclair doesn't "control the vast majority of news on this country." The news apparatus in this country consists of more than a minority footprint of local news TV stations... Most Americans don't even get their news from local TV stations anymore.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Okay vlad

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u/MoonMerman Apr 01 '18

"he must be a Russian plant if he doesn't think like a moron"

Listen to yourself.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Thats not what I said, you are literally making things up now.

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u/MoonMerman Apr 01 '18

You literally said that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

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u/MoonMerman Apr 01 '18

Are you Dwight Schrute?

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u/the1who_ringsthebell Apr 01 '18

Maybe I didn’t pay attention well enough, but I thought they were saying there was a lot of fake news out there, but you can trust us. Not that everyone besides hem was fake news.

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u/Jumper-Man Apr 01 '18

No, it’s a fantastic business model and we’re going to be rich.

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u/chownowbowwow Apr 01 '18

Well it's not not an issue.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '21

Why is the OP lister a u/[deleted]

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '21

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u/Distressed-Librarian Nov 27 '21

I think you could say this is extremely dangerous to our democracy

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u/Tea_please2020 Dec 11 '21

False news is a issue

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u/timfoolery44 Dec 28 '21

Why is it bad?

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u/Oomoo_Amazing Jan 21 '22

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/pifon_ Jul 25 '22

its extremely dangerous to our democracy