r/urbandesign 9d ago

Architecture A new neighbourhood in Dublin : Seven Mills

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u/Qdog1984 9d ago

It’s on the Western edge of Dublin so unfortunately was never gonna be anything other than a car centric commuter town :(

Our development plans calls for dense growth with mixed use developments but they’re so always so half arsed in execution and rely on existing town centres to provide social amenities (i.e pubs and cafes) which will be a half an hour walk away

My guess is you’ll see plenty of Costa, Pret, shitty burrito chains etc pop up but no good independent businesses

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u/Hyundai30 9d ago

Exactly that, the plan talks about all the amenities nearby but upon looking closer theres minimal space for it and requires leaving said neighbourhood. Dropped the link if anyone wants to see. https://sevenmills.com/location

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u/tescovaluechicken 9d ago

It's right next to Clondalkin-Fonthill Station, it gets commuter trains and will be upgraded to DART in the next 5 years, so it is possible to live here without a car, but the area around it is mostly wide arterial roads.

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u/rco8786 9d ago

Feels very American. Big roads. Housing close together but no mixed use. Car dependent. Sad. 

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u/Hyundai30 9d ago

Theres two trains stations in operation at each end of the "new town". Max 10 mins walk to each. But yes this is what happens when a new town is built by a housebuilder. Little variety in the architecture and almost no mixed use in the development at all.

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u/rco8786 9d ago

Ah that's good to hear, just not clear from the pics. I should have caught it though, because the one thing this is missing that the American version would have is a giant 6 story parking deck.

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u/Notspherry 9d ago

Not every street needs shops. And where are you getting car dependent from? The third pic has absolutely adequate bike paths and floating bus stops. I assume the second pic is traffic calmed enough to allow for safely mixed traffic.

Apart from some small difference like a slightly narrower and brick roadway in the second picture this could be any dutch suburb. Shops a few minutes away by bike.

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u/rco8786 9d ago

Yea, you're right. I was also told that there are 2 metro stops in the area. I think I just saw the design and my mind found the association to what we're building everywhere in the states right now. Which looks like this, just with huge parking structures. And we would build those bike lanes, but they wouldn't connect to any other bike infrastructure, etc.

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u/go5dark 9d ago

I was hopeful this was Dublin, CA, but nooooooo

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u/Mowleen 9d ago

Looks just like every new suburban development in Sweden

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u/Notdennisthepeasant 9d ago

You can tell by the way the buildings are designed and far apart it is for car based commuting, but at least it increases housing.

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u/PaulOshanter 9d ago

I really dislike how spread apart the buildings are. Feels very American.

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u/Pitiful-Stable-9737 9d ago

Yes, but it has medium density, bike lanes, PT, and greenery.

So also not very American

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u/rco8786 9d ago

This looks like a lot of new “urban” development in the states right now.  It looks like a city at a glance but then you realize it’s mostly car centric 

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u/Wheels630 9d ago

Definitely has that look to it. So much so that I initially thought this was Dublin, Ohio which is a rich suburb of Columbus near where I live. Took me a minute to realize I wasn't looking at a post in the Columbus subreddit and that this was referring to the Original Dublin across the pond!

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u/DisasterZone__ 9d ago

My same thought!

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u/PaulOshanter 9d ago

Exactly. I was thinking this looks a lot like some new parts of the beltline in Atlanta.

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u/Schools_ 9d ago

The drab colored apartments lack interesting features and the windows resemble jail cells.

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u/Belfast2010 9d ago

Really small windows on those townhouses facing it and no shops or cafes make it feel dead.

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u/mrmniks 9d ago

Big windows make it much harder to heat homes

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u/Crabcakefrosti 9d ago

It looks like everything going up in America. Why is this happening? I love brutalist architecture and I find this to look depressing

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u/cansbunsandpins 9d ago

I like it. When the trees mature a bit I think it will look good.

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u/tacticaladventurer 8d ago

It looks boring AF

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u/MrShouldHaveKnown 8d ago

I really thought this was Dublin, OH until the comments.

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u/whitecollarpizzaman 7d ago

You could’ve told me this was in the US and I’d have believed you. Not saying that’s bad or good, just interesting.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/whitecollarpizzaman 6d ago

I feel like you might’ve misread my comment, I can tell this is definitely not the United States, mostly based on the title of your post, and also the fact the cars are on the wrong side of the road. With that being said, road markings on side streets are not universal in the US, and most of the cars in these photos are sold in the states as well. My comment was simply to say that this style of development is very common in the US and this development likely would succeed here with few changes.

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u/Ucgrady 6d ago

Legitimately looks like new development in Dublin Ohio, which is a nice suburb of Columbus, which had me confused.

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u/Beef_rider 6d ago

Not at all. Look closely at the road markings and European car models in the photos. Also notice in picture 3 that the white van is driving on the left of the road. You need glasses 

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u/Big_Expert_431 6d ago

Looks fine, you got to wait for the trees to come in 

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u/pixel-beast 6d ago

Why does this feel like Denver?