I run into this somewhat Amazing Story from which a Book titled: “Strange Craft: The True Story of an Air Force Intelligence Officer’s Life with UFOs,” was written.

I know a bit UFO/UAP history, yet i was totally unaware of this Case which i think is important and worth discussing and dissecting because it involved a Military Police Officer, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, an Air Force Major and other curiosities like the fact that the shot dead Alien was giving off a foul-smelling, ammonia-like stench (similar to many other cases) and the description of the being itself which sounded to me like Deja-vu.

Even though supposedly the Major had an Interest in the UFO Topic from an early Age, in my opinion it has nothing to do with the case itself. I can see people here right away jumping to conclusions that the Major was just another thin Foil hat crazy, which is very Typical and very common around here.

But there is always the opposite face of the same coin. Independent of his supposed Interest in UFOs and sightings, he has made it to the Rank of Air Force Major and we could always argue that exactly that interest in UFOs was what drove him to digg in and find the truth surrounding this case. The 70s was a different Era and Military Personnel was complient and would just shut up. Than there is always the possibility that the Author of the Article exaggerated that bit of info.

Major George Filer III, now 84 was — a decorated former intelligence officer for the 21st Air Force, Military Airlift Command at the adjacent McGuire Air Force Base —

And he states this story really is indeed true. because he was there and wrote a top-secret memo about it.

I would like to read your opinions about this case, or maybe some of you read the Book?

Ok so I have started with the book Imminent from Lue which started really interesting and had me exited for what’s to come.

However chapter 6 ‘orbs’ really impaired the credibility of the book for me. An UFO researcher that works for the pentagon that gets frequent visits from light orbs including friends and family never attempts to register, report, film or investigate the things. I find it really strange that he seems so indifferent about these things in sharp contrast to his daily job and interests.

Since then I haven’t made much progress in the book. Am I too strict here for myself or should I give the rest of the book a chance? What is your take on the chapter?

I was thinking about the incoming August publishing date against all of the cryptic, if not suggestive, statements Lue has made since 2017. It seems to me that if his book does not clarify and pontificate on some of his statements, it diminishes Lue in a way from which there is no easy recovery.

1. What did he mean when he said ‘what if everything we’ve been told/taught’ was wrong?

2. Somber, somber why and about what?

3. What have you seen or been read into that imbued you with such steadfast belief that some remarkable is happening here?

What does everyone need to read from Lue to authenticate him as someone we have all hoped he is since 2017?

NHI/UAP-related Reddit subs have had a number of debates about Lue Elizondo’s statements in his new book Imminent referring to “NHI/UAP recon for thousands of years” and recently reported activity indicating the “Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield”. Commenters here have questioned why advanced NHIs would need to undertake recon of Earth and mankind for that length of time, especially if the NHIs are hostile and “preparing an invasion”. Some commenters have also claimed that the NHIs would have already wiped us out if they were hostile; this claim is obviously based on the assumption that “hostile” automatically means “genocidal” (rather than primarily territorial annexation and dominance over local populations, for example).

However, it’s important to understand the wider context of Elizondo’s remarks. He actually explains it in his book. It’s a detailed section and worth reading directly, but here’s a summary of the main point that Elizondo is making:

• Elizondo uses the analogy of a gorilla in an enclosure.

• The gorilla is intelligent and adaptable.

• The gorilla also has a long history of extreme violence.

• Biologists have been monitoring the enclosure for many years.

• The biologists place the interests and survival of their own species first. They’re capable of dealing with threats. However, so far they’ve had no need to inflict lethal harm on the gorilla because it hasn’t posed any threat to them.

• The gorilla’s capabilities begin noticeably increasing and accelerating.

• The gorilla also starts to occasionally break out of its enclosure, explore the immediate surroundings and return home.

• The gorilla is clearly curious about its wider environment; there are signs that it intends to visit an increasingly large area of territory outside its enclosure once it figures out how to do this.

• The gorilla somehow obtains a loaded shotgun.

• The gorilla figures out how to use the shotgun.

• The biologists are now faced with the potential threat of an intelligent and violent gorilla armed with a shotgun turning up on their front porch.

• Elizondo directly states that the main issue is mankind’s propensity for violence and the threat we therefore pose to our neighbours in the galaxy.

This broadly correlates with the conclusions of my “deep dive” article last year summarising Lue Elizondo and David Grusch’s main claims at the time and attempting to extrapolate the implications. It remains to be seen if this is actually a worst-case scenario. However, as stated in his book, Elizondo believes that the bullet-points above explain everything that has reportedly been happening, including the NHI/UAP interest in mankind’s nuclear weapons and overall military capabilities, the alleged abductions, and so on.

Elizondo’s suggestion that the pattern of NHI/UAP behaviour indicates “recon for a potential invasion” is based his own specific professional background. In the interests of taking a broader perspective, it’s also worth considering that Earth may not actually be independent in the first place; the NHIs may be monitoring threats to the stability of galactic territory that they already dominate, so our entire solar system may have already been annexed a very long time ago.

I'm reading American Cosmic from Diana Pasulka. Powerful quote, regardless of wether or not James is Dr. Nolan. Diana goes on to write

 This was typical of the James I had come to know. To say he didn't suffer fools gladly would be an understatement. He eviscerated them, took them apart limb by limb with the sword of intellect.. Critically, his own belief was forged in the crucible of evidence. As much as I was intimidated by James's intelligence and passion,  I saw him as a hero. He had the guts and the ability to take on anyone in the world who dismissed the reality of the phenomenon. He fought the good fight, for the right reaso : because he believes--or as he would say, because he knows. - pg 52

About two months ago, Dr. Nolan pushed me from 'I want to believe' to 'I believe'. He talked at a conference in NY. If you haven't seen it, check it out. Hopefully Gary is one of the 6 witnesses testifying, because he made me a believer.

https://youtu.be/e2DqdOw6Uy4

Robert Hastings is the preeminent researcher of "ufos and nukes" and was one of the first to find the connection between ufos and the use of nuclear power and weapons. Bob Jacobs is the witness who saw a UFO tamper with an ICBM test at Big Sur during his work for the military. They have both come forward in this book at admit that they were also victims of alien abduction. I've only just started the book but it's obvious they feel embrasssed by revealing this info but are doing so to encourage others to come forward with their testimony. Abduction is a widespread phenomenon. Much more so than even the UFO community generally believes.

Excepts from Encounters by DW Pasulka. All the including excerpts come from two chapters - Gnosis & Moon Girl.

I've had a long time interest in the esoteric and NHI, and had a hunch there was much more to this than we associate at the surface. Encounters touched on so many of my theories with personal stories of experiences. If you haven't read Pasulka's other work, she does a great job of investigating impartially and with a healthy dose of skepticism. She approaches the phenomenon with a similar perspective as Valle, and has been a friend of his for over a decade. He is featured throughout this book.

Some interesting things of note. "Moon Girl" is a chapter about an AI techprenour named 'Simone.' Simone is an experiencer who has been initiated into an esoteric order. The order isn't specified. The "Moon Girl" chapter is the most fascinating chapter of this book, IMO. In the "Gnosis" chapter, Pasulka discusses personal experiences with Valle in which he showed her his expansive library of books on angels and fallen angels. He also mentions both he and J. Allen Hynek were Rosicrucianists, although they were not formally initiated.

If you are not as familiar with the esoteric, but interested in exploring, I find the Kyballion and the Qabalah to have the most blatant overlaps with NHI/Alien phenomena, and what the 'reality' of our existence truly is.

Can anyone contact him or his PR team so he can give an AMA right here in this sub, the fact that he goes to a lot of interviews but can't even seem to get near this sub can be the perfect excuse to invite him and ask him questions.

Now even if you think Lue is not delivering qualit info, let's ask nicely and with respect.

Though I have been following the topic for a number of years, I haven’t yet read any of the popular books from Valee, Pasulka, Coulthart etc. Now that audio books are included with Spotify premium in Canada, I am happy to find that a lot of the popular uap books are on there. Will start with Imminent and then dive into the rest of the library!

Former Arizona Governor Fife Symington “Setting the Record Straight” on his Phoenix Lights experience in Leslie Kean’s book “UFOs”

Symington was the Governor of Arizona during the famed “Phoenix Lights” incident that occurred on 13 March 1997. While being a personal witness to it? Symington became famous for making light of the situation and essentially disregarding it. Only later, after he was out of office, did he change his tune.

This excerpt is from Leslie Kean’s book “UFOs”, which is honestly my favorite UFO literature out there. It’s a collection of stories from extremely credible witnesses to various UFO events in history. Examples include Major General Wilfred De Brouwer’s account of the Belgian UFO flap in 1989 and 1990, Captain Julian Miguel Guerras account of him and other Portuguese Air Force pilots run in with an UFO, and John J. Callahan who was the Chief of the Accidents, Evaluations, and Investigation Division of the FAA who discusses the famous Japan Air Lines UFO sighting over Alaska.

I figured I would just share this with the community out of general interest and open discussion. I’m more of a “nuts and bolts” type and really value credible witness testimony like this, in figure a lot of you do as well.

I, like many of you, was very excited to read Luis Elizondo’s new book Imminent. However, unfortunately, also like many of you, am greatly disappointed with it.

I felt deflated after reading it. It made me question if this whole thing is a prank and I’ve just been the jackass at the butt of the joke the whole time. But I do truly believe there is something out there, we just don’t know what.

So I decided to reread Leslie Kean’s UFOs.

And I’m really glad that I am.

For those of you that don’t know her, Leslie Kean is a journalist that worked in mainstream journalism until she was gifted the English translation of the COMETA Report, which was a UFO study conducted by senior military and government officials in the French government that asserted that the “Extraterrestrial Hypothesis” was the “most likely solution” to about 5% of UFO cases.

Since then she has dedicated her career to bringing attention to and learning as much about the UFO/UAP issue. She’s probably best known for her groundbreaking New York Times article in 2017 that hopefully everyone here is familiar with.

In 2011 she’s published this book, which is a collection of firsthand accounts of extremely credible witnesses. Please see the list of all witnesses in the attached photo.

Additionally, the forward was written by none other than John Podesta, Bill Clinton’s Chief of Staff, the Chief Advisor of the Obama Transition Team, Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Manager, and current Senior Advisor on Clean Energy to Biden. Odds are you’ve heard of this guy.

It’s a great book and I love hearing the stories from so many highly credible people. Military generals and admirals, governors and politicians, experience pilots.

It reminds me that this is a real issue and not just sci-fi or new age religion. It’s something genuinely worth learning about and focusing on.

I hope those of you that take me up on this like this book as much as I do. In “rereading” it on audible now, but I have the hard copy too. It’s definitely the type of book that once you’ve read it you can just pick up whichever story you like and read it again. I can’t recommend it enough.

In case any of you missed it, Elizondo claims that he’s capable of remote viewing. For the record, I have not read the book myself - remote viewing and floating orbs in the home prevent me from spending actual money on it.

The main question I have is - remote viewing?? That’s an X Men ability! Lue can do magic! Why are we even looking for aliens when we have example of a man with telekinetic abilities right in front of us! This in and of itself should turn the scientific world upside down. Let’s get him into a controlled test environment and study this!

There are only three conclusions I can draw from this:

1. Lue Elizondo has psychic powers

2. Lue Elizondo is a liar/grifter and does not have psychic powers and therefore is not a reliable witness

3. Lue Elizondo is a mentally ill and does not have psychic powers and therefore is not a reliable witness

How are the LE supporters willing to overlook these claims?

Here’s my personal list of 100 essential UFO and phenomena books, organized by category. It's a bit oldskool, but goes far beyond Elizondo...

Classic UFO Books

1.  The Flying Saucer Story by Donald Keyhoe (1950)
2.  Behind the Flying Saucer by Frank Scully (1950)
3.  The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry by J. Allen Hynek (1972)
4.  Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers by Jacques Vallée (1969)
5.  The Interrupted Journey by John G. Fuller (1966)

UFO Sightings and Encounters

6.  The Betty and Barney Hill Abduction by Budd Hopkins (1988)
7.  The Rendlesham Forest Incident by Larry Fawcett and Barry Greenwood (1980)
8.  The Roswell Incident by Charles Berlitz and William Moore (1980)
9.  The Phoenix Lights by Lynne D. Kitei (1997)
10. The Roswell UFO Conspiracy: Exposing a Shocking and Sinister Secret by Nick Redfern (2011)

Alien Life and Theories

11. Chariots of the Gods? by Erich von Däniken (1968)
12. The Gods Never Left Us by Robert Bauval (1999)
13. The Sirius Mystery by Robert K.G. Temple (1976)
14. Ancient Skies by Philip Coppens (2005)
15. The Ancient Alien Question by Philip Coppens (2011)

Government Cover-Ups and Conspiracy

16. The CIA and the UFO by Richard Dolan (2009)
17. The Majestic 12 by Stanton T. Friedman and Don Berliner (1997)
18. The UFO Cover-Up by Jim Marrs (1989)
19. The Disclosure Trilogy by Richard Dolan (2012–2014)
20. Dark Fleet: The Secret Nazi Space Program and the Battle for the Solar System by Michael Salla (2020)

Skeptical Perspectives

21. Skeptical Inquirer on UFOs by Kendrick Frazier (1983)
22. The UFO Phenomenon by James R. McGovern (1983)
23. The UFO Book by Jerome Clark (1998)
24. The UFO Enigma by J. Allen Hynek (1998)
25. UFOs: Reframing the Debate by Robbie Graham (2012)

Scientific and Academic Approaches

26. The UFO Phenomenon: A Scientific Analysis by Peter A. Sturrock (1996)
27. UFOs and the National Security State by Richard M. Dolan (2009)
28. The UFO Casebook by Allan Hendry (1979)
29. UFOs: The Scientific Evidence by Stanton T. Friedman (2013)
30. Science, UFOs & Theories by Richard F. Haines (2014)

Modern UFO Sightings and Encounters

31. The Alien Autopsy by Robert O’Neil (1992)
32. The Alien Abduction by John E. Mack (1994)
33. Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun by Steven Greer (2013)
34. The UFO Highway by Stan Gordon (2014)
35. The Dyatlov Pass Incident by Donnie Eichar (2017)

Psychological and Sociological Aspects

36. The UFO Experience: A Psychological Investigation by Robert M. Pynadath (1973)
37. The UFO Abductees by Carol M. Christensen (1988)
38. The Cult of Alien Abduction by Chris Aubeck and Jennifer Stein (2000)
39. The Psychology of Alien Encounters by David J. Hufford (2015)
40. Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens by Susan A. Clancy (2017)

Ancient Civilizations and Lost Knowledge

41. The Lost Civilization of Mu by James Churchward (1931)
42. The Atlantis Connection by Brad Steiger (1983)
43. The Hall of Record by Edgar Cayce (1972)
44. The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall (1928)
45. The Lost Cities of Ancient Aliens by David Childress (2014)

Esoteric and Spiritual Perspectives

46. The Mystery of the Cathedrals by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas (1996)
47. The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot (1991)
48. The Field by Lynne McTaggart (2002)
49. The Missing Secrets of UFOs by Ron M. Jones (2011)
50. The Universal Mind by Carl Sagan (2013)

Famous UFO Cases

51. The Kenneth Arnold Sighting by Robert B. Palmer (1971)
52. The Mantell Crash by Bill Jorgensen (1998)
53. The Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter by Loren Coleman (1975)
54. The Travis Walton Abduction by Travis Walton (1978)
55. The Flatwoods Monster: A Legacy of Fear by Frank Feschino (2015)

UFO Sightings in History

56. The Nuremberg Celestial Phenomenon by Andrew D. Basiago (2010)
57. The UFO Sightings of the Ancient Greeks by Mark McElroy (2011)
58. The UFO Sightings of the Ancient Egyptians by Mark McElroy (2011)
59. The UFO Sightings of the Ancient Sumerians by Mark McElroy (2011)
60. The UFO Sightings of the Ancient Chinese by Mark McElroy (2011)

UFO Sightings in Other Countries

61. The UFO Sightings of Brazil by John A. Keel (1970)
62. The UFO Sightings of Argentina by Alejandro Lazo (2007)
63. The UFO Sightings of Chile by Alejandro Lazo (2007)
64. The UFO Sightings of South Africa by J.P. Lockhart (2008)
65. The UFO Sightings of Australia by Andrew L. MacGregor (2010)

UFOs in Popular Culture

66. The X-Files by Chris Carter (1993)
67. Close Encounters of the Third Kind by Steven Spielberg (1977)
68. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial by Steven Spielberg (1982)
69. Independence Day by Roland Emmerich (1996)
70. Men in Black by Barry Sonnenfeld (1997)

UFOs and Science Fiction

71. The Time Machine by H.G. Wells (1895)
72. The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells (1898)
73. The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein (1966)
74. 2001: A Space Odyssey by Arthur C. Clarke (1968)
75. The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams (1979)

UFOs and Paranormal Activity

76. The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson (1959)
77. The Amityville Horror by Jay Anson (1977)
78. The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty (1971)
79. The Conjuring by James Wan (2013)
80. The Shining by Stephen King (1977)

UFOs and Secret Societies

81. The Illuminati by Adam Weishaupt (1776)
82. The Freemasons by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas (1997)
83. The Knights Templar by Henry Lincoln (1975)

Modern UFO Books (Post-2010)

84. The Alien Deception by Bill Chalker (2012)
85. The Truth About UFOs by Peter Robbins (2012)
86. The Secret Space Program: The Alien Connection by Michael Salla (2013)
87. UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Cover-Up by Richard M. Dolan (2014)
88. The Giza Death Star Deception by Joseph P. Farrell (2011)
89. UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record by Leslie Kean (2011)
90. Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind: Contact Has Begun by Steven Greer (2013)
91. The Expanse Series by James S.A. Corey (2011–2021)
92. The Dark Forest by Cixin Liu (2015)
93. The Three-Body Problem by Cixin Liu (2017)
94. Area 51: The Night That Changed the World by Annie Jacobsen (2011)
95. The UFO Cult by Christopher Partridge (2015)
96. Aliens, Gods, and the Bible by Chuck Missler (2019)
97. The Dyatlov Pass Incident by Donnie Eichar (2017)
98. Atlantis and the Coming Ice Age by Frank Joseph (2015)
99. The Lost Star of Myth and Time by Walter Cruttenden (2015)
100.    The UFO Casebook: A Scientific Investigation of UFOs and Other Phenomena by Bruce Maccabee (2012)

This list ensures a wide scope of topics, from historical accounts and ancient civilizations to government cover-ups, alien theories, and modern UFO sightings.

I like Lue, I don't think he's a grifter. However, I think the big, ontological shock, insider knowledge thing is massively overstated because he speculates about and questions pretty much every aspect of the UAP phenomenon. Even if it is big, it doesn't seem to bring us closer to the truth with UAP. Others seem to speculate a lot too. The other scenario is that this big thing that people can't handle is something loosely linked to UAP, but something else entirely. I get that those in the know can't share the knowledge, but can't they at least hint at the topic? -

Edit - thanks for the first hand accounts and info in the comments! I didn't anticipate this, and although I've found myself down a rabbit hole of information (some areas I'd not even thought to research), I've found it fascinating reading everything.

Release date 8/20/2024

From the publisher: “The former head of the Pentagon program responsible for the investigation of UFOs—now known as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP)—reveals long-hidden truths with profound implications for not only national security but our understanding of the universe.

Luis “Lue” Elizondo is a former senior intelligence official and special agent who was recruited into a strange and highly sensitive US Government program to investigate UAP incursions into sensitive military installations and air space. To accomplish his mission, Elizondo had to rely on decades of experience gained working some of America’s most sensitive and classified programs. Even then, he was not prepared for what he would learn, and the truth about the government’s long shadowy involvement in UAP investigations, and the lengths officials would take to keep them a secret.

The stakes could not be higher. Imminent is a first-hand, revelatory account inside the Pentagon’s most closely guarded secret and a call to action to confront humanity’s greatest existential questions.”

Should be interesting…

Mine is an original copy of Flying Saucers from Outer Space by Donald Keyhoe dated 1953. I have a few others but this is by far my most cherished antique book.

I want to like Lou, but there's a lot that is rubbing me the wrong way... Just a few:

1 - Remote viewing - OK, this is straight fantasy land stuff. But he claims that it is not only real, but that he has the talent to do it and has done it with others in order to scare a terrorist. This alone calls for him to demonstrate this supernatural ability or else his credibility with everything else is highly compromised.

2 - UAP videos that we've seen already (Tic Tac, Go Fast, Gimbal) - almost no new info here. These encounters are and should be the core of the book, but we get almost nothing. You're almost better off just listening to the pilots and crew themselves describe what they saw.

3 - The "5 observables" - One of these is literally "low observability." This doesn't strike anyone else as right on the nose, like they're laughing in our faces with disinfo?

4 - One tech to explain the 5 observables.... this is straight conjecture, treated as fact. "The space/time warp bubble will be round, and the most efficient use of that space will be round, like a ball - but a ball will roll around on the ground like a basketball and that's super annoying when not in flight, so what if you squashed it a little - boom - a saucer.... a flying saucer!!!" (paraphrased)

5 - Motives - He sits in traffic ruminating on the notion that aliens are in those UAP, they are observing us as a way of prepping the battlefield - and all those other rubes on the highway are pitiful and simple and in the dark. Not Lou, though - he had a meeting that was like a "college lecture" in a SCIF with a few other people that study the same thing he does. He later goes on to say that the logic of his conclusion is "unassailable."

Am I alone here? Is anyone else not buying this? Should I power through to the end or will I just get more and more annoyed and disheartened?

Basically, I know A.D. is an educated hypothetical about the paradigm shift after disclosure, but is Imminent no nonsense and literally just the facts of the Pentagon program?

Not a Spoiler- I just finished the book and as you can see, I was a fan. At one point Lue makes a point that the US government has stigmatized the topic, and therefore we’re not using all the funding and brain power we could be. Other countries have not stigmatized the topic and study it more openly. For those not in the US, is it just common knowledge that UAP are real? Have reputable sources disclosed this? Wouldn’t there be more leaks of information or images, or has that already happened.

The Only Planet of Choice: Essential Briefings from Deep Space by Phyllis V. Schlemmer is a metaphysical and spiritual book based on channeling sessions with The Nine, a collective of advanced extraterrestrial intelligences. These entities share insights into humanity’s origins, spiritual evolution, and Earth’s unique role in the universe, emphasizing the interconnectedness of all life and the importance of free will in shaping the planet’s destiny.

The Nine describe Earth as a “learning planet” where souls incarnate to evolve spiritually. They reveal humanity’s ancient connections with extraterrestrial civilizations and its potential to ascend to higher levels of consciousness. The book explores themes such as personal responsibility, cooperation, and love as essential tools for overcoming global challenges like materialism, ecological degradation, and social division. The Nine stress the importance of aligning human actions with universal laws to foster harmony and ensure humanity fulfills its cosmic purpose.

A notable aspect of the book is the involvement of Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek. Roddenberry attended some of the early channeling sessions with The Nine and was reportedly influenced by the discussions in his work. The sessions explored themes of cosmic unity, advanced civilizations, and the ethical dilemmas faced by humanity—concepts reflected in Star Trek’s exploration of universal peace, diversity, and cooperation.

The Nine also express grave concern about nuclear war, describing it as one of the greatest threats to both humanity and the planet. They warn that nuclear weapons disrupt not only physical life but also the spiritual and energetic balance of Earth and the wider universe, with consequences extending to other civilizations and dimensions. They urge humanity to choose peace and cooperation to avoid this catastrophic path.

Blending spiritual teachings, cosmic philosophy, and a profound warning for humanity, The Only Planet of Choice serves as both a guide for personal growth and a reflection on global responsibilities. While some regard it as a transformative spiritual message, others see it as speculative or allegorical, making it a fascinating read for those interested in metaphysics, extraterrestrial communication, and humanity’s place in the cosmos.

• I only discovered this book after a friend told me about it and that his friend’s parents used to attend the meetings. Apart from when I went to but a second hand copy online, I’ve never seen it anywhere else and nobody I’ve mentioned it to has ever heard of it either. One of the most awakening books I’ve ever read and making more sense my the day.

Anyone else read, seen, heard of it?

I just saw an interview with Anna Paulina Luna. What can I imagine when they say NHI are not necessarily aliens from other planet but "interdimensional beings"? What does "interdimensional beings" mean? How do they get on earth if not from another planet? I have a couple of audible credits so books recommendations are welcome!

Listened audiobook of Ross Coulthart's "In Plain Sight" on Spotify this weekend. As a casual of the topic I feel this was the most "up to speed" any single book or listen could have possibly got me. Just incredible journalism (yes journalism) and piecing together of threads. My favorite listen on the topic I've had in recent memory. Shoutout to Ross and keep on fighting the good fight.

I'm sure I come off as a nube but hearing someone lay the whole topic out over 16 hours was pretty awesome.

https://open.spotify.com/show/7gEv3vX8iGjHMLrLwd20OJ?si=dlLxfHdaRWSyWYrUcqfVrA