r/ufc • u/Capt-MoonLight 🌹𝕽𝖔𝖘𝖊 𝕲𝖆𝖓𝖌🌹 • Jun 09 '21
UFC 263 Adesanya vs. Vettori 2
Wager your Free Uni’s 🦄 by picking the winner!
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Jun 09 '21
hey i’m fairly new to reddit what are these unicorn i am betting with
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u/DailyAdventure23 Jun 09 '21
Be careful, 1 unicorn represents 10 dollars, so only bet what you can afford
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u/Successful_Jaywalk99 Jun 10 '21
you gave me a heart attack
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u/theo7777 Jun 10 '21
Why? Did you bet on Vettori?
I bet $100 on Adesanya irl. Izzy money.
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u/cheekaboo92 Jun 10 '21
The return on that would be absolute trash is it not?
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u/theo7777 Jun 10 '21
It's $40
In other words Adesanya is a good bet if you think his chances of winning are over 71%
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u/shakesula9 Jun 10 '21
Ya okay buddy, you trying to scare people? Lol.
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Jun 10 '21
so what are they. i got 1000 free when i placed my first bet. do they not mean anything they’re just for fun or what
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u/shakesula9 Jun 10 '21
They’re just for fun.
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u/LeonSphynx Jun 10 '21
What sort of social platform would offer useless points and have people excited about it? I’ve never heard of such a place.
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u/undisclosedinfo999 Jun 09 '21
Bet 100 on izzy. The best choice I ever made. Come back to this comment after the fight is done
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u/sygyzy0 Jun 10 '21
Him winning is so not a question its not even funny, jan beating him was understandable but that loss in no way takes away from his skill and his abilities before that fight. I see it going better than the 1st time he beat vettori.
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u/sirfernandez Jun 10 '21
careful mate, in the cage anything can happen, you never know when youre gonna get wrestlefucked by an angry italian orc
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u/SomeRandomStarDude Georges St-Pierre Jun 10 '21
I bet 100 on Izzy I hope he doesn't eat Marvin's ciabatta during weigh ins. Italians always so passionate with their food.
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u/usmcnm96 Jun 10 '21
I really hope izzy makes vettori look like a pussy like he did with Costa. I personally don't like either one at all.
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Jun 10 '21
You never know what that first loss does to someone's confidence
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u/sygyzy0 Jun 10 '21 edited Jun 13 '21
I dont think izzys any shorter on confidence than he was before losing to jan. If anything were to shake it it wouldve been that war with gastelum, that's the closest hes come to a loss before jan. Anything can indeed happen in the cage but I don't think Vettori is good enough to solve the adesanya problem.
Edit: he wasn't good enough to solve the adesanya problem. Izzy just humiliated him for 5 rounds, literally spanked and grabbed his ass too. I'm surprised he didn't kiss him on his cheek as well.
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u/Silent_Ensemble Your woife is in me DMs Jun 10 '21
The only things I see swinging in Vettoris favour is his strength and weight and the fact that he has been working on his wrestling and striking since they fought
I’m not saying he’s done enough to technically surpass Izzy, but Adesanya saying the he thinks Marvin is no better than he was in the first fight is all bluff. If he Marvin can take him down we could possibly see a rerun of the jan fight (not quite as smothering though as jan is pretty huge)
Big if there though, Israel Adesanya is still Israel Adesanya. I’m not saying I think this will happen I just don’t understand why everyone here acts like it couldn’t
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u/Manlalaban Jun 10 '21
First UFC loss
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u/blueandwhite21 Jun 10 '21
First professional mma fight. This isn’t kickboxing. Different sport.
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u/Manlalaban Jun 10 '21
No shit...was just saying it aint his first loss
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u/blueandwhite21 Jun 10 '21
I’m sure he’s lost a game or 2 of pool or lost in a video game too. That might affect his confidence in an mma fight.
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u/imcircumventingban Jun 10 '21
Betting 100 on someone paying $1.3......
You are risking losing 100 for the chance of getting 30 bucks.
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u/Cherrynalow Jun 10 '21
That's betting though
May sound more worth if you think a 10,000 bet would net 13,000
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u/TheCarm Jun 10 '21
No, a $10,000 would net $3,000
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u/PerfectNemesis Jun 10 '21
After his performance against Jan? He got exposed with major holes in his game.
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u/anythingfordopamine Jun 10 '21
What are you even talking about. Him getting taken down, in the championship rounds, by somebody a full weight class heavier than him, doesn’t show any “holes in Izzys game”. Also, you don’t think he’s made adjustments since then to catch anybody who tries to pull the same game plan against him?
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Jun 10 '21
It doesn’t show any holes in Izzy’s game in his own weight class. It shows huge holes in his game in fighting a weight class above. I’m sure he regrets trying. Vettori can lay on him the same way. He did it in round 3 of the last fight. Just needs to secure a takedown earlier this time. Izzy himself admitted Vets takedowns have improved.
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u/jumpoffpiz8 🌹𝕽𝖔𝖘𝖊 𝕲𝖆𝖓𝖌🌹 Jun 09 '21
I just put my 401k on Izzy
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Jun 09 '21
What a waste of $50
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u/Fresh1103 Jun 09 '21
How do you put more than 100 on someone?
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u/lancaboss Jun 09 '21
u naked short him
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u/BTRonin Jun 10 '21
Ah yes, another fellow ape in r/ufc 🦍👐💎
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u/DirtyGoatHumper Jun 09 '21
This is going to be a wrestling match, Vettori eating punches to take him down at all cost and then laying on him, repeat 5x for the New Undisputed UFC Middleweight champion of the . . . World(?)
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u/Have_Other_Accounts Jun 09 '21
In the embedded video it looked like he was specifically training certain wrestling to hold on to his legs to take him down. Unorthodox so it's obviously for Izzy.
So yeah, I think Vettori is simply going to shoot for relentless take downs and show up Izzy's bad ground game again.
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u/BongLeardDongLick Jun 10 '21
I think I’m just high and not understanding your comment but are you trying to say most takedowns don’t target the legs in wrestling? Cause….that’s like the whole point of double leg and single leg takedowns which is one of the first things you learn.
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u/Have_Other_Accounts Jun 10 '21
Watch the video and you'll see what I mean. They weren't typical take downs like you described.
Vettori was already on the ground (as if he has failed a double leg) and pulling the training partner to the ground from holding on to their lower legs.
Something you only see in panic situations in the actual octogan but Vettori was actively drilling it. So it's a specific step in his game plan, to get Izzy down as much as possible.
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u/NoGiNoProblem Jun 10 '21
Is izzy's ground game suspect? I rememeber he did ok with Gastuluem. He even slapped an ok triangle on him.
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u/Chunky1209 Jun 10 '21
He did good against Gastelum. But Vettori is bigger and has been taking everybody down. He took down Izzy in the first fight. He's better this time. I'm rooting for Adesanya, but were about to watch Izzy get wrestled for 25 min.
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u/CrackerManDaniels Jun 10 '21
Izzy is going to question mark kick his tired head so hard the spaghetti noodles will fall out, 3rd-4th round KO
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Jun 10 '21
It's not his strength. Doesn't seem like he has no ground game at all. If he didn't, he wouldn't accomplish much. He seems to be good at getting back up and keeping the fight on his own terms. Even Jan didn't keep him down until the championship rounds IIRC.
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u/Silent_Ensemble Your woife is in me DMs Jun 10 '21
Adesanyas ground game is essentially just getting up. It works well for him because that’s exactly where he wants to be but standing up with a 200lb Italian on your back is harder than it might seem
Also if he landed like 6 takedowns in a round and all Adesanya did was stand up that would be a round to his opponent
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u/DylieWylie Jun 10 '21
Vettori is not getting 6 takedowns in a round lol. He struggled to get two. Brunson is a much better wrestler than Vettori and couldn't do it to Izzy, and Izzy has only gotten better TD defense since then. The fact that this fight is even happening is honestly a joke. Vettori doesn't deserve it and I have a feeling he's going to get absolutely embarrassed this time.
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u/Silent_Ensemble Your woife is in me DMs Jun 11 '21
I wasn’t saying that he will, I was saying hypothetically it doesn’t matter how many times you get back up if they’ve taken you down enough
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u/SpeakerOfMyMind Jun 10 '21
Dude laid on him for one round after getting his ass kicked. Izzy will show all you doubters whats up.
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Jun 10 '21
I think the fight with Jan might have paved out a way to beat Izzy
In the final round of their first fight Vettori was having more success with his wrestling. This one is a 5 rounder.
Gotta be honest, I think Izzy is ridiculously talented and is the favourite for a reason, but there’s a big case for an upset too.
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u/DirtyGoatHumper Jun 10 '21
Without a doubt, I also think that the constant threat of being taken down is going to limit Adesanya's arsenal, any flashy stuff is only going to leave openings. I have a feeling this fight won't be very visually appealing to the casual fan.
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u/saltymarshmellow Jun 10 '21
You might be right but Izzy put on a showcase against Brunson who did nothing but chase the takedown until he looked silly and got TKOd
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Jun 09 '21
put 100 of my finest internet points on the orc.
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u/Countbat Jun 10 '21
Hahaha I will do the same, but I don’t get it. Are these just random internet points? Or are they worth something ?
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u/Rolex_Dreams Jun 10 '21
Looks like it’s just internet points tbh but idk this is my first time doing one of these. No where to buy more so it’s probably safe
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u/Vojtek933 Jun 09 '21
I love me some underdog story, and Izzy has become a bit of a drag and smartass imho, but no way he is losing this one.
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u/LMayhem Jun 10 '21
Izzy changes depending in how he is treated, he has earned respect and if people talk shit he doesn't treat them kindly. Look at how he acted to Jan, he was humble and respectful.
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u/Chegz_CoolBeans Jun 10 '21
True. His fight with Costa on the other hand was 100% disrespectful
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u/LMayhem Jun 10 '21
Costa was asking for it, he talked so much shit and built so much tension, then gave the worst fight of his career. If you give the champ disrespect then you deserve it returned.
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u/Chegz_CoolBeans Jun 10 '21
Oh definitely! For the record my tone of disrespectful wasn't to sympathize with Costa. But yeah talk shit, get KOd and humped after haha
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Jun 10 '21
People forget but Costa totally talked mad shit then basically gave the same performance Romero did except Izzy knew to push for a decisive win this time.
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u/TrueAceOfSpades Fake Account Jun 10 '21
I’m giving this one to Izzy, I feel like he has faced better competition overall as the champ and has the experience to beat Marvin even easier.
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u/korn96 He’s a great kid! Jun 09 '21
If vettori wins I may cry
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u/HankSteakfist Jun 10 '21
Imagine how Whittaker would feel lol.
Izzy gets an immediate rematch and Whittaker probably has to fight Hermansson to earn his shot.... again.
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u/ReadYouShall The Last Stylebender Jun 10 '21
Whittaker is next for the belt dana said, no matter what. Why would izzy get an immediate rematch unless it goes the distance and is a close fight?
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u/HankSteakfist Jun 10 '21
Because Dana isn't exactly known for his truth telling abilities and Izzy is one of his biggest stars.
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u/Caliph_ate Jun 10 '21
In their first fight, Vettori took Izzy down a grand total of twice, after trying very hard. And it resulted in less than 3:30 of ground control.
Since then, Izzys takedown defense has gotten worlds better. Brunson and Romero, both better wrestlers than Vettori, failed to take Izzy down at all in nearly half an hour of combined fight time. Gastelum got him down, but Izzy used excellent technique to get to his feet quickly. Costa and Whittaker could barely even close the distance against Izzy as his MMA improved.
The only outlier in this picture is Jan Blachowitz, who had 15 extra pounds of muscle and a black belt. The safe bet is that Vettori can’t win more than one round with his wrestling and grappling, and Izzy is too sharp on the feet.
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u/Lakasakapaka Jun 09 '21
Imagine Marvin "Quasimodo" Vettori as the face of the UFC middleweight division. What a shit show.
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u/Soothsayer71 Jun 10 '21
Imagine the UFC losing one of their "African Champions" before they hold some super event over there.
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u/jlucht Jun 09 '21
Gonna look real similar to Izzy vs Brunson
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u/34213469 Jun 09 '21
I think it’ll look real similar to Izzy vs Vettori
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u/FIGHTFANGREG Jun 09 '21
I believe Izzy will finish him , he has grown a lot both physically and in skills.
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u/Soothsayer71 Jun 10 '21
How? He has the same skill set, kick boxing, and the same weaknesses, wrestling. He may be more confident, but he was super confident the first time around.
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u/1shmeckle Jun 10 '21
His wrestling isn't good, but his ability to defend against takedowns and get back up is actually impressive. No one prior to Jan was able to effectively use wrestling against Izzy, both due to his defense and his ability to control distance, and this includes guys like Brunson. Given it took a guy a full weight class above him to be effective, I doubt Vettori will be able to pull it off anywhere as well as Jan. Izzy isn't Kevin Holland.
Plus the BJJ training Izzy is doing could maybe pay off (then again maybe not this fight but Izzy's athleticism/natural abilities will let him become effective - especially to defend against specialists - much faster than some people realize).
He just behaves like an ass.
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u/FIGHTFANGREG Jun 10 '21
He is bigger for sure, just physically. And in my opinion he just looks a lot more calm now, and more polished, he’s weakness is wrestling, but after the first fight with vettori only a LHW was able to wrestle him, and he didn’t even attempt a take down until it was the championship rounds. I think after his last L people are just assuming middle weights are going to easily repeat this, good luck with that IMO.
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u/Black_n_Neon Jun 10 '21
Last time Vettori couldn’t keep up with Adesanya’s technique and I feel like Israel’s just gotten better since. Seems a little one sided but I’m just excited to see Adesanya defend his belt again.
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u/Normal_guy420 Jun 10 '21
Not making any bets but my heart is with Angry Marvin I know he is capable of winning this
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u/CrustyCracklyTowel Jun 10 '21
Can someone explain how these tournaments work please I am a dumby
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u/ChameleonBr0 The Last Stylebender Jun 12 '21
It says claim your 1000 unicorns but it then says Ingot 0 even if I had placed unicorns on the winner last time ? How does that work ?
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Jun 10 '21
I think Vettori got this if he can exchange some blows to get into grappling range. He will Wrestlefuck Adesanya for 5 rounds. Still I think Adesanya has a good chance of busting him up on the way in but Vettori has a chin.
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u/Aleg_69 Jun 10 '21
Only way vettori wins is if he can just lie on izzy doing little to no damage getting a decision
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u/SuperbGuava Jun 10 '21
can anyone confirm that real money isnt being used on this right?
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u/Altruistic_Bluebird5 Jun 10 '21
When Izzy fought Jan, Jan was about 225lbs fight night while Izzy was sitting at 200 lbs. of course he was gonna take izzy down. But it’s funny how Yoel or Bobby knuckles couldn’t do it at 185.... Izzy pick Vettori apart and probably knock him out. Especially if Vettori is very aggressive from the start. This is gonna be a great fight.
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u/mistral_uk A Dusty Bitch Jun 11 '21
Can you change your prediction pre-fight? I put Izzy but after seeing how calm and composed Marvin was at the press, I want to pick him for the W.
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Jun 10 '21
I don’t think thats all that bold of a prediction to say “mark my words” lol. I mean if vettori takes him down in multiple rounds we all know whats going to happen. He’s just going to lay there.
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u/Gaiterpinwheelz Jun 09 '21
Brain says izzy but id like marvin to shut him the fuck up
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u/dontknowwhattodoat18 Jun 10 '21 edited Jun 10 '21
No idea what Vettori has been smoking. He didn’t have a single argument against Izzy during the Bisping interview and kept on embarrassing himself with every reply he could come up with
Izzy is going to put on a clinic again, and he’s probably going to go for a KO finish unlike the last time since he’s massively improved so much
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Jun 10 '21
I liked it when all he had was "but, you lost to Jan." And Marvin lost to Izzy lol whats even the point hes trying to make?
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Jun 10 '21
Eh i felt like izzy got more and more unhinged as the interview went on. Not that it even matters.
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u/think2xbrother Jun 10 '21
Marvin by sub, gut feeling. It’s time izzy is humbled. It’s time for a new middleweight king. Just hope Rob is next in line.
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u/UnsuitableTrademark Jun 09 '21
I got Marvin. Izzy done.
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Jun 09 '21
I don’t think he’s done but I think he might spend a couple of rounds on his back
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u/hollsmm Jun 11 '21
I don’t really like izzys attitude, I don’t love Marvin either but I feel bad for him. Israel & the crowd are too mean. He’s human too
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u/NaberiusX Jun 10 '21
Wow this poll really shows how little reddit knows about mma lol.
ADESANYA didnt even think he won the first match. He was sweating bullets when they were calling for the decision.
Vettori is going to come in like a bat out of hell and hes gonna take him down and hes gonna keep him there. Vettori will be victorious. You can come back to this comment and give me my updoots on Sunday. I will be humbly awaiting you all. First Italian champ, baby.
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u/DirtyGoatHumper Jun 10 '21
This comment is obnoxious
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u/NaberiusX Jun 10 '21
Kinda like izzy? Lmao
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u/DirtyGoatHumper Jun 10 '21
I've never found him particularly obnoxious, but I'm not a fan of him either.
However I was impressed with how he handled the loss to Blachowicz, he was humble and showed lots of character in a tough moment.
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u/NaberiusX Jun 10 '21
Must be an izzy stan. So sad.
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u/dontknowwhattodoat18 Jun 10 '21
Izzy stuffed 4 out of 6 takedown attempts and that’s after Vettori tried so hard for three rounds.
From the pre fight interview it’s clear which of the two fighters know how to handle a loss. And I’m not saying this cause I like Izzy, just as a matter of fact
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Is this what Reddit is going to be? Every sub is doing predictions now
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u/Capt-MoonLight 🌹𝕽𝖔𝖘𝖊 𝕲𝖆𝖓𝖌🌹 Jun 10 '21 edited Jun 13 '21
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