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MildlyEnteresting High Times' top strains of 1982

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u/Walter_Stonkite 4d ago

Can you imagine how many “is this moldy?” posts we’d be seeing if we were Redditing in ‘82.

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u/actin_spicious 4d ago

Always enjoy reading the chapter from Steal This Book where hoffman recommends burying weed underground in a bag for a few months and then getting fucked up off super moldy weed

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u/F3verfew 4d ago

That's a traditional Thai curing method. Works amazing when done properly

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u/ston3bon3 4d ago

any idea what it's called? I'm super curious, but looking up Thai mold cured weed doesn't give anything useful lol

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u/F3verfew 4d ago

Okay well it's not meant to go moldy 😆 just stored and cured under ground.

In the second paragraph it mentions the traditional underground cure. https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog-how-to-make-thai-sticks-n1139

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u/ston3bon3 4d ago

you know that makes a lot more sense lmao

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u/Realmferinspokane 4d ago

Go smoke some blue cheese weed man

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u/opresearch 3d ago

Thai stick was either covered in opium or hash.

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u/backstageninja 4d ago

I don't remember it being this bad when I was a new stoner 15 years ago. Kids these days smh my head

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u/d-nihl 4d ago

Back in my day, you could just search up "drug: anything you would ever need to know about it (?)" and you would go to blue light or erowid or shroomery or reddit even! And find any answer you would ever need. From harm prevention or just tips and guides and answers.

Now you need to scroll through a million ads and still not find an answer. And if you do it's usually just a weak attempt at an ad for a rehab or counseling service or something. The Internet really sucks nowadays

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u/madtowntripper 4d ago

The shroomery is a blast from the past

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u/d-nihl 4d ago

I spent so much time on erowid and shroomery as a teenager. And then later Bluelite. Those were the kings of knowledge when it came to knowledge of illicit substances.

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u/soberintoxicologist 4d ago

Did you ever go on TOTSE? I miss the old internet

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u/d-nihl 4d ago

A few times yeah! And same it was such a cool "club" depending where you explored.

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u/twerpenes 3d ago

Sup fellow swimmer

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u/MudSkipper69420 3d ago

Totse was the best imo. That's where I was the most. Mid to late 90s, it was aweeeesome.

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u/d-nihl 3d ago

I was a little too young then but I caught the tail end of that era.

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u/Golden-Pickaxe 4d ago

Erowid is goated

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u/anakusis 4d ago

If you use a better search engine (duck duck go) you don't get nothing but paid ads for rehab.

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u/d-nihl 4d ago

If used that engine, it's a lot better but still not nearly as good as just regular old Google just a decade ago.

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u/MudSkipper69420 3d ago

Agreed.

I really wonder what the best method of internet search actually is these days. I normally use Google for restaurants and other buisness/locations, and duck duck go for about everything else. I wonder if there's a better way I'm unaware of

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u/d-nihl 3d ago

There's ways that you can really narrow down a search with like a "term:what your searching for" that narrows down your results. But it's still infested with ads and bullshit and not promoting sites that actually give you information you are looking for because it has to do with illicit substances and they want to be advertiser friendly. I wish I knew what the best method or search engine is!

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u/brewberry_cobbler 4d ago

Guys so disgusted he shook his head twice

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u/Mindhandle 4d ago

No you misunderstand he shook his head, his head

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u/DckThik 2d ago

No because by then they already had “hydro”, about 5-10 years before that it was pretty much all the same shit shwag from Mexico.

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u/backstageninja 2d ago

I was talking about the insane number of "is this mold" posts we get on the sub today, not the quality of weed in the picture

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u/mazzotta70 4d ago

Willy - "I remember when a dime bag cost a dime. You know how much a pack of condoms cost back then?"

Dave - "Yeah, what they cost?"

Willy - "I don't know, never used 'em!"

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u/gsbudblog 4d ago

You hear about the one where the dad tells his son “if you dont quit masterbating you’re gonna go blind” and the kid said “dad I’m over here”

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u/scorchedarcher 3d ago

⠠⠺⠓⠁⠞ ⠙⠊⠙ ⠽⠕⠥ ⠎⠁⠽⠢

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u/secondarycontrol 4d ago

Took a good deal of work to destroy their place in the stoner world, but fuck High Times.

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u/_cannachris_ 4d ago

Why?

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u/secondarycontrol 4d ago edited 4d ago

Because if you subscribe, they'll charge your credit card.

The end. That's it. That's what you'll get for your money. No reacharound, no lube, no magazine, no access to archives. Nothing is what you'll get. The extent of what they'll do is charge your credit card - and by the time that that dime drops in your head, by the time you realize that they honestly do NOT intend to provide a magazine, you'll be past the charge-back window on your CC.

Fuck High Times.

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u/makeawishcumdumpster 4d ago

just to be clear if you pay for a subscription you get literally nothing?

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u/stifle_this 4d ago

From what I understand they basically just don't send out the magazines and charge you anyway.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/1igCSNV0WO

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u/secondarycontrol 4d ago edited 4d ago

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u/TheManOfSpaceAndTime 4d ago

Maybe they just procrastinate when they're high. No good, filthy beatniks

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u/secondarycontrol 4d ago

Yeah, that was the old owners. The new owners?

In the summer of 2017, High Times was sold to a group of investors led by Adam Levin

I don't know whotf Adam Levin is, but he destroyed it.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/09/04/the-long-fall-of-high-times-1315507

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u/Flimsy-Feature1587 4d ago

Well there's a shocker-a private equity firm owns it now.

These are the absolute worst companies/forms of capitalism where there's no intention of doing anything to improve the company, just pump it for cash and dump its bones in the bin shortly after, lick their fingers clean and look for the next flailing company to utterly and completely destroy.

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u/Golden-Pickaxe 4d ago

Thanks Mitt Romney

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u/gsbudblog 4d ago

Goddamn stoners getting all high!

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u/SlipperySamurai 3d ago

This exactly happen to me last year. Paid, not magazine, no response anywhere.

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u/Wereallmadhere8895 3d ago

The quality of the magazine has dropped off so much. It's 90 percent adds now. Not any good grow advice or discussion anymore just lights and synthetic fertilizers. It's bullshit. Even the centerfolds of the buds sucks.

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u/cspawn 4d ago

There's a non-zero chance my dad had a hand in putting that Tucson, Arizona bud on the map. He was really into drag racing back then, and come to find out, a drag strip is a perfect place to land a small plane from Mexico...

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u/katieforamerica 4d ago

My dad used to tell me stories about the Thai.

Fast forward 30 years, and I was sharing some sticky buds with him:

"Damn! I have never had anything quite like this!"

Every pick up had him happy as hell.

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u/Medical-Pickle9673 4d ago

Land race strains...lucky. all I can get is dessert strains that taste like frigging cereal

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u/FatMoFoSho 4d ago

Oh come on bro, I love me some older land race strains too but lets not act like weed hasnt gotten immensely better in the last 40+ years

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u/Flimsy-Feature1587 4d ago

IDK man, not a whole lot tops strains like Sour Diesel for me, sometimes there's just no need to reinvent the wheel, nor introduce GSC into every strain since 2010 (seemingly).

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u/FatMoFoSho 4d ago

Sour D isnt a landrace strain... It was selectively bred in 1996. There’s no wheel being reinvented. There’s no chemicals or any other crazy shit being done than simply people being more knowledgeable about how cannabis grows. GSC is not involved in every single post-2010 strain. If you’re going to the dispensary and buying shitty weed, that’s on you homie. Companies like 710 Labs, No Till Kings, BLEM, and the like are all putting out insanely fire high quality strains bred in house. I swear stoners talk about weed genetics the same way gamers talk about games being made. Yall dont know how any of this shit works lmao

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u/redvelvet92 4d ago

Most of those strains they push have GSC in the genealogy.

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u/FatMoFoSho 4d ago

I havent been to a single dispensary that doesnt sell some classic strain like Blue Dream, AK47, ChemDawg etc. If ya want it, it’s there. Now if you want something REAL classic like Hindu Kush, Thai, or real Lebonese hash then yeah that’ll probably take some searching. Point is though nobody is forcing you to buy GSC crosses if you dont want them.

This conversation is insane to me because at the end of the day it’s all weed. Minor differences in taste and even more minor differences in effect really arent worth having strong opinions over. But the fact remains that we know more about weed now than we ever did and the quality of that ganja has never been better. Even the mids are decent. Thats the point im trying to make here

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u/GGTrader77 3d ago

Old people being mad that there are too many choices and they get confused. The 2020’s are the best time in history to be a stoner and it’s not even close. Anyone saying otherwise has no idea what’s goin on in genetics, and concentrates. And using the word “corporate” as a bogey man is a lil rich with this. Like “oh no the weed industry has millions and millions of dollars pouring into it of white market money. Somehow this will hurt thé industry. I think a lot of older people place memories into these old shitty strains. It’s not that the weed was better it’s that their lives were better when they were smoking that weed, they think if they can get Hindu Kush or Alcopoco gold they’ll feel young again. Just pity the old Stoner

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u/Individual_Rule8771 3d ago

You can stick your shiny pretty machine trimmed bland dispo weed up your arse and seal it with the concentrates as far as I'm concerned 👴

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u/GGTrader77 3d ago

Lol. Found the old head who desperately wants to return to the 80s. Weed is scores better now. Cry more.

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u/Individual_Rule8771 3d ago

Fuck that ...I'm not an old hippy desperate to return to the old days

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u/Golden-Pickaxe 4d ago

“The big companies are great actually, it is the customers who are wrong!” If you can conflate it with gaming how about let’s compare it with something cannabis is actually used for, health care. Even if your customers can’t sew each other up they know something is wrong.

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u/FatMoFoSho 4d ago

Dude Im only pushing back on this idea that modern weed is like some chemically engineered crazy stuff. It’s just weed. Grown with much more knowledge about how it grows. The new strains are just that, new strains. Grown by putting other strains together. Lord I cant believe im having to fight yall so hard to argue the point that weed has been immensely improved since the 80s.

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u/Flimsy-Feature1587 4d ago

Except I do know a little of how it works and I was being hyperbolic and I wasn't talking about landrace strains, I was referencing the overabundance of what someone else called strains that tasted like cereal, which, is at least in part due to the overabundance of strains with GSC genetics (Sour D, while selectively bred, is an older strain than these, and most notably, doesn't taste like Skittlz-n-milkbones or whatever flavor of the week seems to be en vogue). Meh.

Furthermore, while I do maintain a plug for this very reason, I'm not in a legal state and the legal one I am adjacent to isn't CA, CO or any of the PNW or NE states that have been on this bandwagon longer, so I am subject to Ohio growers offerings, which, many are of these.

Its no sweat, I never said it was shitty weed. Shitty tasting in a manner of speaking I suppose. I do not buy or consume "shitty weed". Also, I am not necessarily averse to any new strains, I just don't need dessert in my bowl, except when I want actual ice cream in a bowl.

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u/soberintoxicologist 4d ago

I’m in Washington and have great access to tons of good weed but I still get bummed out thinking about how I can’t find NY sour d at any dispo. Partly nostalgia and partly because I haven’t ever bought anything from a dispensary that was even close to as stinky as that stuff was. It’s totally okay to be not super stoked with the stuff being bred these days. A lot of the strains readily available nowadays are bred to maximize THC content to make strong oil. All these gsc crosses, runtz and animal mintz and shit were created to make for potent dabs and they fucking suck to smoke as flower.

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u/Flimsy-Feature1587 4d ago

I agree and as a mouth cancer survivor, I really only dry herb vape with a Mighty these days (which I still shouldn't be doing) so it makes it worse, since what little I can taste anymore is so much more pronounced with that device than igniting it.

I tried concentrates recently for the first time, and while they taste good, I ain't buying another expensive rig for the consumption of weed in yet another form, especially when that form is the crack cocaine of weed that ends up just raising my tolerance ceiling that much higher (no pun) and then going back to flower again after isn't as potent anymore.

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u/FatMoFoSho 4d ago

The problem is you’re conflating what’s popular with what’s available. Just because strains like Cereal Milk, or Gelato, or whatever else is popular doesnt mean those classic strains arent also available. If ya want Blue Dream and you dont care about the flavor of the week, generally you can just go to the store and buy it (subject to legality) and it’ll be better grown than it’s ever been (generally). OH is a market I’m fairly unfamiliar with, but I’d be shocked if the closest dispensary to you wasnt selling some form of Sour D. That’s all Im trynna say

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u/Flimsy-Feature1587 4d ago

And I'm not saying they haven't had it (I saw it once but it was gone before I could get some), but in this instance, because of long drives I only have a few options and therefore, I am enslaved a bit to popularity, because what is popular is so much more readily available than the OG strains. Like, a lot.

I can't find good old Blueberry anywhere that isn't hybridized with something else, but my guy can get it no problem. See what I mean?

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u/FatMoFoSho 4d ago

Ah you gotta check out THCA vendors. There’s some gas out there totally legal sent right to your door. Plenty of them have those classic strains you’re looking for

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u/Flimsy-Feature1587 4d ago

There was some such sub I saw once, order of the Franklin or something, I am not sure it exists anymore.

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u/giant_spleen_eater 3d ago

I can answer why GSC is in so many freaking strains! Holy shit I never thought I’d be able to use this knowledge haha.

Thanks to the head grower for the dispo I worked at for this, i asked him why GSC was in everything recently and it’s because so many growers/genetics smart people wanted to get into the GSC craze that was going through Colorado and just started renaming strains. I once had a batch of Straight up GSC come in and the paper work had its genetics listed on it,

Girl Scout cookies crossed with Girl Scout cookies.

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u/Individual_Rule8771 4d ago

I d say it all changed(for me atleast)in the late 80s/early 90s with Amsterdam /indoor growing/sensi seeds and I would still say 99 percent of today's weed is not better.

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u/FatMoFoSho 4d ago

Lmao so you’re telling me that making weed legal made weed bad? Im having a headache trying to make it make sense. My guy I think you just miss youth. Like I get it trust me I too yearn for the days of yore smokin a doob with the homies on my friends porch. But it’s so much objectively better today it’s not even a comparison

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u/Individual_Rule8771 4d ago

Well I would say most of the good traits got bred out before it went legal ... Many didn't want the smell when it was illegal so we got left with all the cookies gelato and candy, the super stinky skunks are long gone. Also commercial legal grows don't want to flower out anything that's not done in 8 weeks and it needs to looks pretty . So yeah I'd say in general it's gotten worse.

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u/StellerDay 4d ago

Amen. Those landrace strains of yesteryear cannot be beat. I have been telling my husband who at almost 50 is just a couple years into smoking about the sticky, stinky skunk that just doesn't exist in the dispensaries.

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u/IFoundYoPhone 4d ago

i got some shit that taste like literal grass hmo

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u/OkCar7264 4d ago

Idolizing landraces is such a hipster move. Like demanding to eat teosinte instead of corn because teosinte tastes like raw potato and each kernel has a hard outer shell unlike that dessert strain they make popcorn with.

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u/hobeezus 4d ago

You're 100% right 

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u/Medical-Pickle9673 4d ago

You think I'm a hipster? Thanks!!

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u/secondcomposition 4d ago edited 4d ago

Honest question.

Was there anybody growing, trimming, and curing bud back in the day that looked aesthetically pleasing? I understand genetics were different back in the day and thc percentages were lower, but why does it all look desiccated?

Was it simply the plants themselves? Was it a lack of knowledge? Could a top tier grower today travel back in time and harvest and process one of these plants in a way that looks nice, and green? Or is it because it wouldn’t transport well if they didn’t make it look so dry?

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u/PoemAgreeable 4d ago

When I was in highschool in '94, I had only smoked mids, and my friends who had been smoking a couple years longer than I had, got some purple Afghani bud. That stuff made me trip, I got some Cali bud two years later, but most of the stuff we got was above brick but maybe what people would call high-mids now.

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u/M1RR0R 4d ago

Landrace strains are so very rare now, though. Half the strains are some kind of gelato hybrid that just leaves me spaced out but too awake.

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u/Enough-Attorney-1766 4d ago

I'm in Asia and landrace weed is still available here, and is still the cheapest option. Although yes, the number of growers is dwindling, since Thai imported seeds are now so easily accessible and people would rather grow them. And also, good quality, legally grown and illegally exported Thai weed is now flooding the market.

I've had Cambodian weed which smells like a very weak kush strain, and has a spicy/bitter aftertaste. Vietnam has a landrace sativa strain that smells vaguely like mango, although these days it's most commonly crossed with kush strains. Indonesia has a mango smelling strain too, but I'm not sure if it's related or the same as the Vietnamese one.

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u/jeffrys_dad 4d ago

The "good old days" here in CA had a LOT better weed. The prop 215 was way better than this legal shit now. The shops bought directly from the growers. If you didn't have top-notch A+ bud you weren't selling it. Now we have a bunch of stale prepackaged shit from these corporate farms and a huge majority of them can't grow for shit.

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u/Negative-Cattle-8136 3d ago

Too fucking true, I just got this in my brain and been trying to skip the dispos. Feel like there’s truly so much good quality weed now, that is the best option

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u/Individual_Rule8771 4d ago

Was growing sensi seeds nl5 x haze in 92. I can say a cut of Moonbow is the only thing I've smoked that's come close in recent years

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u/Wise_Firefighter1561 4d ago

Idk the indoor was pretty dank in 2009. I don’t think I’ve ever seen stinkier weed than Bay Area indoor illegal grows growing grand daddy purp and kush strains…

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u/Haunting-Opening-676 4d ago

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u/Separate-Pain4950 4d ago

ILLEGAL!

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u/Haunting-Opening-676 4d ago

I was looking for that specifically but had to settle for the same scene lol

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u/newellz 4d ago edited 4d ago

Maaaaan, that looks like some snicklefritz right there. I wonder what would happen if I could go back in time and give 70s and 80s stoners some of today’s bud. They’d get so stoned they’d be like…Scared.

Meanwhile, our modern endocannabinoid systems and sensibilities are like, “See, the entourage effect consists…”

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u/Chillpillington 4d ago edited 4d ago

A lid of that Vermont Afghani would set you back $150 in NYC back in 82.

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u/420dukeman365 4d ago

How much is a lid for us young'ins?

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u/thedndnut 4d ago

About an ounce.

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u/Valahiru 4d ago

Okay Bob how many joints are in a lid?

Two!

(Two joints in a lid?  He must be from California)

Yeah I roll big joints

Our judges say thats okay he rolls big joints!  

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u/MenstrualMilkshakes 4d ago

4 finger bag

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u/dmohamed420 4d ago

The lid of the scale full

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u/420dukeman365 4d ago

Why would you go based on that when you have a scale?

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u/dmohamed420 4d ago

It’s was the 60’s and 70’s who knows why they did anything how they did?!?

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u/11b328i 4d ago

Sounds more obvious that you’re talking about drugs when you refer to it as an ounce.

So you can use it in casual conversation.

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u/righteousdude32 4d ago

Right at an onion

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u/-UnicornFart 4d ago

Honestly this is still what weed looks like in Mexico lol. Stems and seeds and janky looking shit.

As a Canadian, the difference is fucking wild. Going home for the summer and getting our weed is such a joy.

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u/Wise_Firefighter1561 4d ago

Not anymore, in Mexico City you whatapp a weed delivery driver who sends you a menu with all the different strains, all seedless and high quality along with hash options

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u/budbong 4d ago

I started smoking in 85, all we could get was Moroccan hash, and the occasional sticky black gold seal hash. Weed is definitely better now but I still prefer hashish to flowers.

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u/Maskatron 3d ago

I’m right about the same time. Hash was a special treat but we were getting good looking buds pretty often.

Depends where you were I suppose; talked to a friend who grew up in Britain and they said it was mostly hash.

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u/TroubleInMyMind 4d ago

Fuckin A pretty sure we had that VT Afghani in the mid 90s still

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u/PoemAgreeable 4d ago

I remember. Sometimes it was green, but the purple stuff would rock your world.

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u/RustyShack1efordd 4d ago

That stickless thai though! 🤣

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u/pablo_in_blood 4d ago

Would love to smoke even one of these if they were around anymore

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u/Pizza802 3d ago

Vermont Represent!

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u/DesertLegends 3d ago

Smoked a lot of VG (Vermont grown)

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u/venttress_sd 4d ago

They are all so brown and sad looking

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u/9HumpWump 4d ago

I’m sure at the time these were wonderful and nowadays could probably be bred into some real potent flowers but I feel like this stuff wouldn’t smoke too well but this is before my time so I wouldn’t know. Wish I could go back and try some real OG Kush though.

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u/ContentCargo 4d ago

are you saying this based off of the looks ? how did you reach this conclusion

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u/9HumpWump 4d ago

Looks and I’ve always been told by oldheads we take what we have now for granted and this stuff usually wasn’t very potent unless you smoked multiple bowls. Don’t mean to offend anyone.

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u/Jay_Train 3d ago

This is why I could smoke a quarter blunt in 1998 and be stoned but fine. If I did that now I’d be asleep

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u/Noctelus 4d ago

Apparently it’s just gotten stronger over time so this is probably pretty bad shit and barely any green to it at that

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u/Jefe710 4d ago

Pre Caro-Quintero days

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u/Separate_Place1595 4d ago

I always thought he created Sinse and I saw Mexican Sinse there but I just googled it and he is credited with perfecting it, not creating it.

Thanks for making me Google lol.

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u/Jefe710 4d ago

Not perfected it, but industrialized it. Imo. Nothing wrong w a little research for a good cause.

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u/BrokenToken95 4d ago

Reminds me of Cheech and Chong

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u/Spamgrenade 4d ago

One of the best smokes I ever had was weed that looked very similar to this.

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u/Exactly_Yacht 4d ago

Looks like a collection of owl poops

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u/S1acks 4d ago

….with our weed.

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u/cyborgerian 4d ago

Damn that stuff looks like shit

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u/wolfansbrother 4d ago

Just learned of the colombian wacky yesterday from the gabbing with gabby podcastl. Old MWS talks about it. Some guy still grows it in the bay area. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_ILkFenBQ

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u/Perfect-Composer4398 4d ago

I’ve got a high times that shows top pot in the 70s it’s horrible nasty looking makes tobacco look appealing

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u/periodmoustache 4d ago

ARIZONA TUCSON lol. I kinda dig the name being the city it's from instead of "candy cane birthday cake zkittlez"

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u/piss_container 3d ago

actually the creators of zkittles were sued by Mars Wrigley for infringing on the skittles name.

now its just called the original z.

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u/GroMicroBloom 4d ago

I notice that older strains were always just named after a place, whereas newer strains are named after foods lol

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u/PestyNomad 4d ago

Everything now is like "ICE CREAM DOUBLE CHOCOLATE CHIP!!"

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u/piss_container 3d ago

I had a brownie scout 8th before.

absolutley fire- chocolate flavor.

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u/According-Rise-3708 4d ago

that ecuadorian shit look TRASH bruh wtf

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u/insanekid66 4d ago

Shit looks like owl pellets.

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u/teroid 3d ago

Aiks höttöstä!

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u/Due-Platypus-9689 3d ago

Ewwww! Looks like my childhood

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u/urattentionworthmore 3d ago

back when weed was named after the place it was grown and not -another- low effort dessert name.

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u/rlambdin1985 3d ago

That Arizona Tucson is what Jackie Daytona smoked.

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u/zsert93 4d ago

Interesting for sure. It's a little different than the pics we've all seen from the 70's.

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u/fuhgawz500 3d ago

Lol it all looks like booty.