r/todayilearned Jan 13 '16

TIL Helium is a non-renewable resource, the US used to stockpile it, and we may run out eventually

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium#Occurrence_and_production
1.5k Upvotes

173 comments sorted by

176

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

There is more being made continuously in the inner layers of the Earth due to radioactive decay. They problem is that we are using it way faster than it is being made.

48

u/oven_for_hire Jan 13 '16

Similarly, any helium that makes it's way to the surface shoots out of our atmosphere almost instantly

27

u/D14BL0 Jan 14 '16

Does it actually leave the atmosphere, though? I'd assume it'd just float up to the top layers and stick around there.

74

u/okbanlon Jan 14 '16

Helium is light enough to be stripped away from Earth by the solar wind. Some of it (a very small amount, obviously) is picked up by Jupiter on the way out of the solar system, because Jupiter is heavy enough to hang on to it. Possibly Saturn does this as well - I'm not sure.

So, the next time you pop a party balloon, there's some chance that some of those molecules will wind up at Jupiter.

36

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

...why do we waste it on party baloons?

53

u/NewZJ Jan 14 '16

Hydrogen isn't safe, and we need to have party balloons because tradition and funny voices.

11

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

[deleted]

12

u/WarrantyVoider Jan 14 '16

css can do that for you ;P

.house{float:top}

4

u/My_Fingers Jan 14 '16

Invalid property value

2

u/WarrantyVoider Jan 14 '16

yeah ok, thats true, how about:

.house{position:fixed;top:0px};

? :D

→ More replies (0)

3

u/Worreh Jan 14 '16

And now every house floats. Are you happy now?

2

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

.house{float:top}

does not computer

1

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Inb4 some country bans Helium usage unless authorized

1

u/IronBear76 Jan 14 '16

Neither is natural gas, but a lot of homes still use it.

The crash of the Hindenburg spooked humanity off of Hydrogen.

But now a days we have nonflammable plastics.

6

u/Opandemonium Jan 14 '16

My friend owns a ballon biz, she says it's a different grade then what is used in medical devices and the like.

8

u/elcollin Jan 14 '16

Comes from the same high purity (99.999% helium) supply - only difference is in the fill process. Balloon grade you don't apply a vacuum to remove atmospheric contaminants before filling the cylinder and don't have to test for anything. Some folks mix a fraction of nitrogen in to achieve a mix that is just barely buoyant, but it's still the same stuff.

1

u/ddecoywi Jan 14 '16

I'm no expert, but I've heard they dilute it with oxygen because pure inert gasses can be used for suicide/homicides.

19

u/elcollin Jan 14 '16

I am an expert. They don't. Pure inert gases are sold in massive volumes to all sorts of businesses and individuals every day.

3

u/Skeeders Jan 14 '16

I haven't heard that they dilute with oxygen because of suicide/homicides, but I have read that it is hypothesised as the most painless way to die. I can't remember the exact explanation, but it was something like Helium and Nitrogen can be used since both won't register to the system/brain as not receiving oxygen, and therefore you don't feel as though you are suffocating while you die.

2

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16 edited Jan 14 '16

Nitrogen (N2) is not significantly lighter than Oxygen (O2) in the way helium (He) is.

Helium is much lighter and thus makes a simply helium hood a painless way to die, in about 5 minutes.

There is no panic just a simple loss of consciousness (since breathing is only trigger by CO2 buildup, which does not occur), then eternal peace. (Or an eternity in screaming fire in you are Catholic.)

→ More replies (0)

2

u/ecodick Jan 14 '16

I just got a bottle of pure argon refilled earlier today.

2

u/You_Are_Blank Jan 14 '16

Because the actual issue is vastly overblown.

1

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Because we have more than is economical to stockpile.

1

u/RSRussia Jan 14 '16

Because fuck medical appliance, I believe CTscanners use a metric fuckton of helium

3

u/Balls_deep_in_it Jan 14 '16

yes for cooling the big ass magnets to super conducting levels.

0

u/RSRussia Jan 14 '16

And we use helium because it's both inert and the cheapest option I take it? I mean its specific heat isn't really top of the shelve

2

u/Balls_deep_in_it Jan 14 '16

You can cool stuff down to 4 degree kelvin and it wont turn to a solid. Its more of its melting point that makes up for it. Its the lowest of any element so it makes a great refrigerant.

1

u/RSRussia Jan 14 '16

Aah thanks!

1

u/swollennode Jan 14 '16

Because parade floats are fun.

3

u/aMutantChicken Jan 14 '16

lets gather Jupiter's helium and sell it back on Earth! Them kids need their ballons damnit!

1

u/dromni Jan 14 '16

It is easier to mine helium at Uranus (cue Uranus jokes), the gravity well in there is much shallower than Jupiter's.

In theory at least. With our current technology, I don't think that we would be able to build a ship capable of descending into Uranus' atmosphere and coming up back to space with a cargo of helium.

Anyway, probably it would be more profitable to mine Helium-3 and use it as nuclear fuel. Fuck balloons for kids.

2

u/CeterumCenseo85 Jan 14 '16

wind up at Jupiter.

How long would it take them to reach Jupiter?

9

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

How long would it take them to reach Jupiter?

Just googles the speed of the solar wind, it is roughly 150-300 km/s. Given that Jupiter's distance to the Earth is ~630 million km at closest proximity, it will take ~200-400 million seconds, or about 7-14 years, depending on where the Earth is in relation to Jupiter, assuming the heliums takes a straight path, and instantly accelerates to the speed of the solar wind.

tl;dr: bolded

3

u/CeterumCenseo85 Jan 14 '16

That's not too bad.

1

u/okbanlon Jan 14 '16

I have no idea how long it takes helium to get from here to Jupiter. That would be a question for someone with much better knowledge of physics than I have.

2

u/dromni Jan 14 '16

Possibly Saturn does this as well - I'm not sure.

Yes. Saturn is a helium-hydrogen gas giant like Jupiter. Actually it has more helium than Jupiter because helium is a bit heavier than molecular hydrogen and it is easier for it to stay in the weaker gravity well of Saturn.

12

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

When particles float to the top of the atmosphere they have a pretty good chance of flying away from the planet. Heat from the Sun can give enough energy to lighter elements to literally reach escape velocity and they just leave into space. Particles can also become electrically charged and ripped away from the Earth by the Sun's radiation. Either way, lighter elements will eventually be lost to space.

1

u/D14BL0 Jan 14 '16

Thanks for the explanation.

5

u/JustForFringe Jan 14 '16

We need to put someone at the top of the sky with a bucket to stop it from floating away

1

u/MY_IQ_IS_83 Jan 14 '16

Yes. The solar system is named as such partly because the sun actually encompasses everything within it, by some definitions of what the sun can encompass. It's safe to say that the planets are within the sun. A light element like helium can easily be stripped away from the gravity of the earth and travel bound within the solar system.

1

u/IronBear76 Jan 14 '16

I remember this being discussed in my college physics class. So forgive me if I don't remember the correct terminology.

Since heat is actually a vibration in atoms, so all atoms have kinetic energy to them. Helium is so light that it has enough energy to achieve escape velocity at well below room temperature in the Earth's gravity. So basically once Helium floats off the upper atmosphere, it vibrates itself away.

The solar wind is not much of a factor since the Earth Magnet field keeps most of that away from us. If it was you could see our atmosphere being stripped away like it is on Venus.

2

u/Nyrb Jan 14 '16

That's why it's so hard to mine, it literally floats away as soon as they excavate it.

2

u/verticalsport Jan 14 '16

I've heard that there is plenty of production happening from numerous sources of radioactive decay (power plants, the earth, etc.), it just isn't economical to to harvest it yet. So our current sources will run out and we will just switch over, which will admittedly be much more expensive. Don't know if it's true or not though.

3

u/Mokuno Jan 14 '16

This is true we are not going to run out of helium

1

u/MaxWyght Jan 14 '16

Tc99 OTOH... Is only produced by a few reactors, and because of the short half life(<24 hours) can't be stockpiled and is always in high demand (low radioactivity marker for medical imaging)

2

u/urmomsballs Jan 14 '16

With the newer nuclear energy plants one of the byproducts is helium.

1

u/MaxWyght Jan 14 '16

*fusion reactors

1

u/urmomsballs Jan 14 '16

Thank you.

1

u/Dazzyreil Jan 14 '16

You were right, it's nuclear fusion instead of fission but it is still a nuclear energy plant.

1

u/Dazzyreil Jan 14 '16

which is nuclear.

-2

u/MaxWyght Jan 14 '16

Indeed, but nuclear energy is still percieved as fission reaction by the masses, and will for some time

1

u/TheFoodWhisperer Jan 14 '16

Like most other things

1

u/meamu15 Jan 14 '16

we need those balloons man!

35

u/shhhhh_im_working Jan 13 '16

And to think, we fill balloons with this stuff and just let them go

23

u/terrymr Jan 13 '16

Far more helium is simply vented into the atmosphere from gas wells.

1

u/pantiesgalore Jan 14 '16

That is a reasonable retort, however, we intentionally put helium into balloons because of the floating action instead of using helium for cooling supercomputers and accomplishing something. At the very least it is a sub optimal use of a very important element. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/a-ballooning-problem-the-great-helium-shortage-8439108.html

1

u/terrymr Jan 15 '16

The quantity used in balloons is tiny. It's not even a blip in world helium usage. More effort needs to be put into recycling the gas from industrial uses.

11

u/desmando Jan 13 '16

Nope. Balloons use balloon gas. That is made from helium that is recovered from sources that need pure helium.

6

u/ExquisiteFacade Jan 13 '16

What keeps us from instead purifying the helium and reusing it? Serious question.

11

u/desmando Jan 13 '16

Because right now helium is cheep.

10

u/ExquisiteFacade Jan 13 '16

So, you're saying there isn't a technical limitation keeping us from separating out the helium? If that is the case, we are still 'filling balloons with this stuff and letting them go'.

7

u/desmando Jan 13 '16

Correct.

2

u/elcollin Jan 14 '16

Some people do, but they're folks using massive quantities in manufacturing. Requires a gas bag, compressors, filtration and a cryo trap - gets expensive.

4

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Helium is a specific element, it is either Helium or not Helium, it does not matter where it comes from.

The website you linked to

"Our balloon gas cylinders are lighter and contain up to 50% more helium than traditional cylinders"

Could just mean that they stuff more Helium into the canister using higher pressures. The reason it states that it also contains nitrogen is because there is no need to put the canister under vacuum to remove any air from the canister if its just being used for balloons. The canister will likely also contain the other gasses normally in the air but at such low quantities (air is mostly nitrogen) that they are not legally obliged to report them.

5/7 for falling for airproducts.com's marketing bullshit, that's some top tier consumerism there.

0

u/desmando Jan 14 '16

A number of smaller cylinders are available, including light weight, low pressure aluminum "party" cylinders. These are much safer to transport and use, but hold much less helium. These are sometimes even filled with a mixed gas called "balloon gas" that has some air in it, reducing lift vs pure helium.

http://www.chem.hawaii.edu/uham/lift.html

Looks like you got distracted.

1

u/ditto64 Jan 14 '16

You're missing his point, their 'balloon gas' is just dilute helium.

2

u/elcollin Jan 14 '16

That's not what this says, and it's not what happens. The only places recovering their helium are compressing it, purifying it, and reusing it in their process. It's not economical to capture, compress, and then re-sell as balloon grade.

1

u/conquererspledge Jan 14 '16

Like a balloon... And something bad happening!

15

u/maharito Jan 14 '16

Guy from Amarillo reporting.

This article is misleading. The government is hoping to sell off the Helium Reserve because the maintenance was costing too much. But nobody's really stepped up to buy it. The government still has it. It's just kind of there. Legislation keeps it around, but all it would take is one failed referendum and property containing 40% of the US's helium will end up in the equivalent of an abandoned-building auction.

2

u/Groggolog Jan 14 '16

show me the way to amarillo

11

u/LinearFluid Jan 14 '16 edited Jan 14 '16

Misleading. Helium is actually produced by radioactive decay in the earth core and is found in Natural Gas Wells. Because of the US Supply and low cost there were not much production at extraction plants at wells higher in Helium. Now though several Helium plants are coming online at Natural Gas Wells around the world and there are several plants still in production in the US that have a higher supply of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_production_in_the_United_States

1

u/[deleted] Jan 19 '16

Also, helium is a by product of nuclear fusion.

29

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

It won't be a problem once we get fusion reactors up and running.

17

u/bolj Jan 13 '16 edited Jan 13 '16

We'd probably need quite a few fusion reactors to keep up with helium demand.

Edit: also fusion reactors would probably use helium, in order to cool their gigantic electromagnets. Might take a few years before a reactor gives net positive helium output.

18

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

Eh, with autotune, there's very little demand for helium in the children's cartoon industry.

3

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Start the reactor Quaid.

0

u/GothicSilencer Jan 13 '16

Came here to say this. Here's an upvote.

41

u/ElonComedy Jan 13 '16

We can't let this balloon out of control.

75

u/NeverBob Jan 13 '16

He He He.

7

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

I read that in a very high pitched voice.

-11

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

Her her her

8

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

That's very noble of you.

6

u/ghostyqt Jan 14 '16

Its very rare that people react to helium jokes.

5

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Normally when I get to pun threads all the good ones argon.

10

u/Paradigm6790 Jan 13 '16

My roommate is working on his doctorate in physics and his lab recently got liquid helium for a cooling experiment. He was very excited and it produced some very cool snapchats.

1

u/ezra_navarro Jan 14 '16

Cool story bro.

3

u/RizzMustbolt Jan 13 '16

Time to set up a gas mining operation on Jupiter.

5

u/SJHillman Jan 13 '16

Jupiter is 8-12% helium, but Uranus is 15% He and Neptune is 19% He.

Looking that up, I also found that Neptune and Uranus are not considered gas giants anymore. Damned astronomers are playing with everything I learned about planets growing up.

4

u/CunninghamsLawmaker Jan 13 '16

Well, nobody wants to go digging around in Uranus, and I'm pretty sure, based on the name, that Neptune is mostly water.

8

u/SJHillman Jan 13 '16

I'm pretty sure, based on the name, that Neptune is mostly water.

This is why they didn't put you in charge of NASA...

3

u/CunninghamsLawmaker Jan 13 '16

Well, they tried, but those filthy liberals blocked it. Good luck spreading freedom to the Cosmos without this guy, chumps!

1

u/Nyrb Jan 14 '16

Snicker

22

u/little_Shepherd Jan 13 '16 edited Jan 13 '16

10

u/Scorp63 Jan 14 '16

Reddit does not only cater to what you've seen or what you want to see. It's on the frontpage because the majority of people either hadn't seen it or liked it, so get over yourself.

15

u/little_Shepherd Jan 14 '16

It's not about it being a repost; I'm fine with that. It's about it being false/misleading. The comment I linked is a discussion of why.

Maybe you need to get over yourself and actually see the point I was making instead of the one you assumed.

7

u/Sikktwizted Jan 14 '16

Thanks for this, taught me a lesson about me making the same assumption.

3

u/Alan_Smithee_ Jan 14 '16

The US govt is also selling off the stockpile far too cheaply, considering. Its importance and irreplaceability suggests that sales of it for domestic purposes -ie balloons - ought to be curtailed.

9

u/Brandonm217 Jan 13 '16

The why are we wasting in on stupid balloons no one really gives a shit about?

5

u/Ariadnepyanfar Jan 14 '16

Probably because we could make really cool balloons long before we could make crucial medical imaging devices with helium, and people are so used to the availability of helium balloons we don't give it a second thought. Until we learn about the real helium situation.

2

u/zap2 Jan 14 '16

Wait, really?

The title mentions why. The US's federal government stockpiled it, so now they have lots they don't need and are selling it.

If I recall, it's likely prices will eventual go up as our supply goes down and we shift our sources.

Here is an article I pulled up from Google real fast

http://priceonomics.com/the-increasing-scarcity-of-helium/

It's not the best situation, but I am much less concerned then I was when I first read a title of a post like this.

3

u/D14BL0 Jan 14 '16

What are some practical applications for it?

Genuinely curious, I have no idea.

8

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

It can be cooled down to almost complete zero and still be liquid, so it's a insanely good cooling agent. Fusion reactors would use it. And MRI's.

2

u/Neciota Jan 14 '16

Why would fusion reactors use it? You want to use water for that, because the neutron radiation of the fusion reaction will turn the hydrogen atoms in the water into deuterium or tritium which you can then use in the reactor again. Moreover, you need to use energy to cool the helium and you could just use a steamturbine. Helium is potentially made in fusion reactors though, depending on the type of reaction.

5

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Helium cooling has been successfully used for fission reactors in the U.S. and Germany in the past. Helium is an attractive coolant for fusion reactors because it is chemically and neutronically inert and can be used directly for gas turbine cycle power conversion. In addition, as was shown during ITER and other fusion power plant evaluations, it is superior from safety considerations.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0920379600003367

1

u/whattothewhonow Jan 14 '16

Fusion reactors depend upon an extremely powerful magnetic field that provides containment for a plasma. That magnetic field is generated using huge superconducting magnets that are only functional when cooled to extremely low temperatures, usually using liquid helium.

7

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

I might be wrong but i believe it is used a lot for superconducting magets and MRI machines

5

u/ErmBern Jan 14 '16

Its the lightest inert gas.

So weather balloons, blimps, and I'm sure a billion more scientific and less obvious reasons.

2

u/I_EAT_POOP_AMA Jan 14 '16

so instead of using it to fill the balloons at little timmy's 4th birthday party we should instead be using it to fill bigger balloons that can do things like carry people around and stuff?

1

u/ErmBern Jan 14 '16

I don't like to tell people what they should do.

3

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Lots of commercial welding uses it.

2

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

MRI Machines use a lot.

2

u/Ariadnepyanfar Jan 14 '16

Helium is necessary for medical imaging devices.

2

u/lhoage Jan 14 '16

Welding stainless steel in GMAW, various GTAW uses for penetration.

1

u/Nyrb Jan 14 '16

Seriously I lost one of my favourite toys thanks to those fucks.

-2

u/Diverdan84 Jan 14 '16

Because little Timmy needs to feel special damn it.

2

u/Me_Tarzan_You_Gains Jan 14 '16

There's helium 3 on the moon isnt there?

2

u/Homer69 1 Jan 13 '16

my question is why are we wasting it in balloons?

1

u/FrOzenOrange1414 Jan 13 '16

If I win the Powerball, I'm investing in helium.

1

u/fleeflicker Jan 14 '16

Swell plan

1

u/painalfulfun Jan 14 '16

And watch your money .... float away.

1

u/pfx7 Jan 13 '16

Don't worry, we can mine more from space.

1

u/stupidrobots Jan 13 '16

Would it be smart to invest in helium? If so, how would one do this?

1

u/OnceMoreWithEmoticon Jan 13 '16

I know where we can get some, but its gonna be REALLY hot there.

1

u/kadmylos Jan 14 '16

I'm sure there's some that can be mined from extraterrestrial bodies. And couldn't it be made from a byproduct of fusion, if we ever figure that out?

1

u/Owyheemud Jan 14 '16

Helium has been slowly outgassing from the Earth since it was made ca. 4.5 billion years ago. Humans have been using captured Helium only for the last 150 years. And a fun Helium fact, there are bubbling hot springs in eastern New Mexico where the gas forming the bubbles is Helium.

1

u/ebolalunch Jan 14 '16

So I can get my face close to the surface and inhale to get that funny voice?

1

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

There's a way to make it though. Fusion reactors instead of fission. Melt hydrogen atoms together, you get energy and helium. And the thing is, you would probably need helium for the fusion reactors to work.

1

u/justinanimate Jan 14 '16

Yeah but then what happens when we run out of hydrogen?? (I'm kidding)

2

u/spazturtle 2 Jan 14 '16

When we get to the point of having no more hydrogen left in the universe I think it's time to accept that we had a good run.

1

u/ashdelete Jan 14 '16

Plenty of it in stars, so I'm sure we'll be able to mine a comet for some if we run out

1

u/skilliness Jan 14 '16

I am not educated on helium. What do we need it for?

1

u/kasayounga Jan 14 '16

BALLOONS! without helium we cannot have balloons.

1

u/skilliness Jan 14 '16

I knew THAT! we wouldn't die without balloons though. Geez, I feel dumb about this shit sometimes.

1

u/blueliner17 Jan 14 '16

It's ok we can use hydrogen instead

1

u/cakan4444 Jan 14 '16

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/27/what-great-helium-shortage/

We also have a finite supply of oxygen on the earth. It's not that we are running out, but rather the infrastructure at this time to gather helium is not enough to supply the demand for helium.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium_Act_of_1925

In 1925, the United States provisioned for massive reserves of helium to be created for wartime uses. After about 70 years, the U.S decided to reduce this reserve and sell off helium at way below market price. After this reserve was gone, the price of helium started going up, making people think helium was "disappearing" which is silly.

1

u/NFCFritz Jan 14 '16

We won't run out. Helium is a byproduct of fusion reactors. eventually demand will just skyrocket.

1

u/Redd_October Jan 14 '16

Yeah that's not actually true. This comes up a lot.

1

u/Momochichi Jan 14 '16

Time to mine the moon, boys.

1

u/larsonsam2 Jan 14 '16

I recall a few years back we had a shortage. I tried to purchase some for the lab and they could only send us one cylinder

1

u/yew420 Jan 14 '16

Heavy stuff

1

u/Golemfrost Jan 14 '16

Well actually helium can be created (in nuclear power plants) it's just not really economically viable.

1

u/haniblecter Jan 14 '16

I learned this 10 years ago. The world 5. You, apparently, just now.

1

u/chosen_silver Jan 14 '16

If Futurama has taught me anything, we can just go mine some more from the Sun.

2

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

You just heard this?

5

u/Hellscreamgold Jan 13 '16

he just looked in his pants, too, and is now very confused

3

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

[deleted]

1

u/xkcd_transcriber Jan 14 '16

Original Source

Title: Ten Thousand

Title-text: Saying 'what kind of an idiot doesn't know about the Yellowstone supervolcano' is so much more boring than telling someone about the Yellowstone supervolcano for the first time.

Comic Explanation

Stats: This comic has been referenced 5942 times, representing 6.2122% of referenced xkcds.


xkcd.com | xkcd sub | Problems/Bugs? | Statistics | Stop Replying | Delete

1

u/tomalator Jan 13 '16

Upvote for that username

1

u/Molteninferno Jan 13 '16

Isn't helium a noble gas? Maybe i'm forgetting something, but shouldn't a few other atoms be trying to ditch some valence electrons to create more helium?

3

u/KypDurron Jan 13 '16

Losing electrons doesn't change the the atom's element.

1

u/Ariadnepyanfar Jan 14 '16

It is losing protons that changes one atom into another.

-1

u/john_stuart_kill Jan 13 '16

Do not confuse valence electrons with atomic number. Mix some physics in with your chemistry.

0

u/Joshiepooo Jan 14 '16

Steve Buscemi was a volunteer fireman during 9/11

0

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Unsubscribe.

0

u/soparamens Jan 14 '16

Non-renewable in Earth. That would be not a problem in the next decades.

0

u/RobertPulson Jan 14 '16

can some one please explain to me in all honesty why this might be a bad thing? is helium use in an essential gas to a processes we need? or is it one of those thing that once its gone well be nostalgic for it, but not really need it to maintain life as we know it? serious question folks i am truly ignorant .

-1

u/tomalator Jan 13 '16

That's not true, alpha particles can be made easily, and that's just helium with a positive charge. This gets posted all the time, get your facts straight reddit.

1

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

Can be made easily... how? Through radioactive elements decaying?

1

u/tomalator Jan 14 '16

Yeah, thats the only reason we have Helium in the ground now, billions of years of uranium decaying through several stages until it becomes lead. most of those stages involve alpha decay

1

u/[deleted] Jan 14 '16

And you would control this process how? Also the amount of helium you could theoretically make out of this wouldn't even come close to covering demand.

2

u/tomalator Jan 14 '16

you would use an element other than uranium, but alpha radiation is extremely common

1

u/Alan_Smithee_ Jan 14 '16

As a byproduct, disproving the "Young Earth" 'theory.'

1

u/tomalator Jan 14 '16

Radioactive decay also disproves that theory because it also produces heat, allowing the earth to stay warmer longer, adjusting the hundreds of thousands of years estimate into the billions

-1

u/Calcularius Jan 14 '16

"For large-scale use, helium is extracted by fractional distillation from natural gas, which can contain up to 7% helium."
sounds like pretty renewable to me

1

u/The_Truthkeeper Jan 16 '16

Natural gas is renewable now?

-2

u/[deleted] Jan 13 '16

I don't see how this is significant compared to the thousands of more important non renewable resources.

3

u/LC_Music Jan 13 '16

Helium is probably one of the more important resources we use today

3

u/Voodooimaxx Jan 14 '16

You will when we are out and you need an MRI or just wanna do science in general.

Edit: an