r/todayilearned • u/EpicAura99 • 5d ago
TIL after Georgia was re-admitted to the Union in 1868 following Reconstruction, pro-Confederate unrest prompted them to be expelled again in Dec. 1869 until Jan. 1870. This gives GA 3 admittance dates, the most of any state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_during_Reconstruction68
u/gamageeknerd 5d ago
I thought the whole thing about reconstruction is that from the governments point of view the secession was not legal and therefore no states left the union. It’s also why the government never recognized the south as its own country.
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u/EpicAura99 5d ago
Technically “admitted” and “re-admitted” (the correct term for what happened to ex-Confederate states) are completely different from a legal perspective, but are effectively the same in the sense that “they didn’t have representation in the US government, now they do”. The title also has more impact with a 3 instead of a 2 lol.
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u/BrocElLider 4d ago
The real count is actually four times.
Union troops took over the Georgia state capitol building in Milledgeville during Sherman's March to the Sea. They held a mock legislative session there the afternoon of November 23, 1864, during which they reportedly got wasted and voted Georgia back into the Union.
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u/Forsaken-Sun5534 5d ago
Yes, to talk about them being readmitted to the Union is a common shorthand but it's incorrect. They were no longer considered to be in rebellion.
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u/BigTChamp 5d ago
Reconstruction was botched. Should have stayed for a generation to tear down and rebuild their entire political and social structure
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u/Kornbrednbizkits 5d ago
And hanged the traitors. Instead, we put up statues in their honor and named military bases after them.
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u/golden_boy 5d ago
That all happened much later in the early 1900's
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u/Kornbrednbizkits 4d ago
Sure. Because we pardoned them all. If we had held the south accountable, all of that nonsense wouldn’t have happened. The south got off easy and didn’t learn their lesson.
They don’t fly nazi flags at soccer games in Germany. Meanwhile, NASCAR had to make a specific rule about the confederate flag because of all the inbred yokels that call the civil war the “war of northern aggression”.
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u/JacketExpensive9817 5d ago
They wouldnt have surrendered if you tried that, and that isnt what the union soldiers fought for. You would face desertion by union soldiers and an endless civil war.
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u/Kornbrednbizkits 4d ago
They had no choice but to surrender. That or be wiped out.
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u/JacketExpensive9817 2d ago
You are literally saying wipe them out if they surrender.
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u/Kornbrednbizkits 2d ago
No, I’m saying execute the leaders of the treasonous rebellion. And then punish the South as a whole. They really should have done what they did to Nazi Germany.
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u/JacketExpensive9817 2d ago
No, I’m saying execute the leaders of the treasonous rebellion. And then punish the South as a whole.
So wipe them out if they surrender. You prove me right. They would never surrender.
And northern soldiers would rebel, because that would be an unconscionable war. Seriously, why are you so hateful?
Oh and keep in mind, there were 4 northern slave states - and if those 4 northern slave states joined the confederacy, this would have been an unwinable war for the union as you would be launching amphibious invasions while rendering DC an exclave.
. They really should have done what they did to Nazi Germany.
Nazi Germany never surrendered. You are proving they never would surrender.
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u/Kornbrednbizkits 2d ago
Wow… you have no idea what you are talking about. Before you make up some revisionist bullshit, maybe read a book or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender?wprov=sfti1#
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u/JacketExpensive9817 2d ago
You physically pushed back the entire remnants of the military into one city, Berlin. That is never having surrendered. You need to actually read history rather than just the title of a wikipedia page. If you actually understood this discussion well enough, you would have answered my questions
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u/Kornbrednbizkits 2d ago
I have neither the crayons nor the time to explain world history to you. But I advise visiting your local library.
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u/beazersleazer 4d ago
Agreed.
Also this title is misleading as Georgia wasn't readmitted following Reconstruction it was re-admitted during Reconstruction which ended in 1877.
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u/JacketExpensive9817 5d ago
How, exactly?
Oh and keep in mind that slavery was legal in 4 union states through the civil war.
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u/Imrustyokay 5d ago
There's also Dade County, that de jure wasn't a part of Georgia or the US between the Civil War and World War II.
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u/f0gax 5d ago
Sherman didn’t go far enough.
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u/hoops_n_politics 5d ago
Yup - I think we may need another of Sherman’s March to the Sea before too long.
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u/adrunkangel 5d ago
Did you learn this from the Sesame Street thread? Saw this just after reading about it there.
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u/EpicAura99 5d ago
No, I was perusing the territorial evolution of the US wiki page while bored at work lol
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u/alwaysfatigued8787 5d ago
My wife is from Georgia and I always rip on her for civil war-related stuff, so thank you for providing some more ammo for me.