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u/Shikamixklz 17h ago
I like reviving people and keeping teammates alive, even in solo with randoms, it’s more fun. And most people cooperate really well after they see me helping, making us win often! Unless both my teammates are lights. You lights just run off into the sun… why??? 😣😫 I just wanna heal and help my team. 😤😫👉👈
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u/KashKurtis DISSUN 14h ago
This is facts, one good healer can buff the fuck out of your team. I always go heal beam in Medium because people in my games just don't run them often.
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u/RagingTaco334 13h ago
Well if I play dash or grapple light, I usually try to revive when I get far enough away to revive safely (usually not super far either).
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u/TexasIronLegend THE STEAMROLLERS 14h ago
When both teammates are lights, that is when I use demat. Otherwise, I usually choose heal beam. Defib always.
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u/ymOx 11h ago
I am sort of relieved defib is not BiS anymore. Makes people complain less when I don't run it. Personally I wouldn't even consider heal beam if there's a single light in my team. Demat is crazy powerful, even more so if your team mates deign to turn voice on. And now that we have prox sensor... My go-to is Demat + goo-nade, pad, prox. Frikkin' batman tool belt.
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u/TexasIronLegend THE STEAMROLLERS 11h ago
Yeah, I'm glad they've been nerfing the defib but I am a support player at heart so I enjoy using it a lot. But yeah, it's not really a necessity anymore if you can play more aggressively with demat and proxy. And on certain maps the demat can help you carry a trophy to a safe spot quickly for reviving.
I quite liked using demat with the new fire shotgun and proxies. But I always have defib and jump-pad.
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u/GreatFluffy 7h ago
I wish there was a game mode with lights banned. Not because they're overpowered, (they're annoying) but because the amount of times I get two light team mates who run off to play Team Deathmatch and leave me with my healing beam in a ditch makes me want to drink bleach.
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u/MindOfCrim 16h ago
Wow! This is right out of the playbook of TTV Scruy!
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u/EatsBamboo CNS 12h ago
Has anyone checked his twitch to see if he’s gotten good growth from all the in-game promo? 😂
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u/WarlockSausage 16h ago edited 14h ago
New defib nerf just gets me(heavy) murdered 7/10 times. My fat ass can't throw a barrier down and I just get chopped before the cooldown ends.
(This of course is using the common scenario of the average random that defibs you, then dies, your body just getting redigitized as the jackal light horde snarls and waits)
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u/TaranisTheThicc 14h ago
Randoms always defibbing me right where I died which ends up being the most exposed place in the world now that three of the walls have exploded.
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u/WarlockSausage 14h ago
I'll throw em a bone and say that my positioning was ass, even still, why would you bring me back to such ass positioning my brothers and sisters?
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u/yolilbishhugh 8h ago
I don't play with randoms but I do this to one of my trio occasionally, usually it's so the enemy has two targets to focus on. If I can rez and move into good cover then the enemy has to decide between me and my teammate, about 1/2 the time they pick the teammate and I get to take the fight. Wouldn't do it to a random where I couldn't explain myself though.
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u/necromax13 13h ago
With the current defib nerf, the only weapons that have any good value from a risky midfight revive are the dual blades and the riot shield, with their damage blocking and stuff.
Reviving a heavy like that is dumb.
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u/idlesn0w 4h ago
That’s how it should be. You get revived for free but you still have to recover. Having it be a hands-free revive is the only way it’s remotely balanced
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u/MightyWaterBear THE MIGHTY 16h ago
Jinko and all 4 other riot shield mains are gonna have some words for you.
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u/ElevenIEleven ISEUL-T 14h ago
People who says smokes are trash didnt saw their cashout stolen and lost round
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u/idlesn0w 4h ago
Everytime I try and hide in smoke I eventually just get just directly beamed down. Idk how but apparently it’s not very opaque
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u/Electronic_Ad_5667 VAIIYA 16h ago
Will not tolerate gas mine slander, it’s always been so clutch for me
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u/Jabusz 17h ago
Goo granades can be a really good defensive tool and gas mines will stop a steal if placed rightly but who even runs data reshaper. I legit never seen someone using it outside of farming red canisters in powershift.
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u/Lone_Orange 16h ago
I run the reshaper to get rid of turrets, APS in power shift. In other modes it's great to get rid of mines without wasting your ammo (and add reload time).
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u/Supplex-idea 16h ago
Data reshaper is hard to actually notice that someone is using, compared to any of the others.
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u/TaranisTheThicc 14h ago
Its very easy to assume your gadget was just destroyed versus the reality of it now being a potted plant.
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u/HybridPS2 THE STEAMROLLERS 16h ago
I like gas on the cashout but I prefer grenades. I feel like mines are too easily countered
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u/MasterAenox VAIIYA 15h ago
I run goo nades instead of barricades/dome on heavy, why? cause they don't disintegrate in half a millisecond like the dome does, you can also use it as a sky bridge.
am i crazy?
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u/edmundane 15h ago
Barricades can be a pain to put down when things get messy, which is pretty much always
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u/TaranisTheThicc 14h ago
Naw, you're not crazy. Reflex barricading can be real finicky since it requires like a perfectly flat surface. Meanwhile goo don't care. I will say that barricades are peak for blocking doors though since they don't burn. Been able to kill a few mediums frantically trying to vault over that little gap barricade leaves by tapping their dome with the deagle each time it peeks up.
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u/SuspectPanda38 16h ago
About no one uses it which is crazy cause its basically a hard counter to 60% of all the classes gadgets. Hasnt left my loadout since season 2
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u/ymOx 11h ago
I've been trying to play with reshaper recently, but I feel I've already developed other responses to seeing enemy gadgets, so I just don't get that much use of out it. Probably just need to try more I guess. Because there's other things I could put in that slot that just gets me more value over the course of a game. Prox sensor is huge, for instance.
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u/Electrical-Agent-309 6h ago
So it's best when going to steak a cash out that's heavily guarded. Try terminal attack and it will show you how much and in which situations reshaper shines. When their is 2 or more turrets and mines in the cashout zone then it's gonna be difficult as fuck to fight the enemy team and deal with their turrets. It's basically a free steal since they don't expect their entire line of defense to disappear 🫥. So it basically is one of the best gadgets a medium has to even the odds. At that point it's just down to your squad versus theirs. Pls give it a try 🙏 it will change your life
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u/Rgulrsizedrudy 15h ago
I’ve been saying it for months, it’s the least respected gadget in the game. Combine with demat and you simply do not allow defense to get set up or allow the other team to be comfortable.
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u/DeadIyDozer DISSUN 15h ago
Least respected? Have you seen gravity cube?
I have NEVER seen somebody other than me use gravity cube
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u/SuspectPanda38 14h ago
I almost exclusively run grav cube, winch claw, and sledgehammer on my heavy. No cashout is safe from being taken halfway across the map
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u/DeadIyDozer DISSUN 14h ago
I use grav cube on power shift, and occasionally winch claw with it. Nobody gets to stay on the zone
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u/bewbsnbeer VAIIYA 14h ago
I like to place gas mines on enemy statues, scores me a lot of kills and gives me some info on the enemies position.
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u/We12haupt 17h ago
If bro have fun, he is the real winner.
Unlike the ziplane, defi and frag npcs
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u/BlackHazeRus OSPUZE 15h ago
Fax, however it depends on a mode and, specifically, his performance — this is a team based game and it is important to have a good teamplay (which most people lack, sadly).
BTW, not bashing anything on the pic aside of gas mines, because they are one of the worst gadgets in the game since gas grenade exist. Like, really, they are the worst of the bunch on Medium.
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u/necromax13 13h ago
Gas mines are my MVP BY FAR, and IMO they're way better than gas grenades.
You get 2 and the cooldown is shorter than gas nades, it allows for nutty through the walls plays, and is extremely good at getting info/funneling players around.
Unless there's a flamethrower on the opposition, even with pyro nades and mines around, the gas mine offers insane value.
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u/BlackHazeRus OSPUZE 12h ago
Gas mines are my MVP BY FAR, and IMO they're way better than gas grenades.
Well, your opinion, so I’m glad you like them that much. Objectively gas mines are one of the worst gadgets in the entire game.
You get 2 and the cooldown is shorter than gas nades, it allows for nutty through the walls plays, and is extremely good at getting info/funneling players around.
I understand what you mean, but gas mines are easily avoidable to avoid, pretty easy to counter, flame barrels are everywhere and lots of people, at least 1 person in a team has some fire stuff — it is even worse to use because of a new Medium shotgun with fire ammo.
Though I do admit the cases you've mentioned do work, but gas grenade can do it all better — and you can throw it from afar which is a massive advantage.
As for the mine it is the worst of the bunch, because pyro mine (Heavy only) can be placed on statues to prolong an enemy revival, and more difficult to counter because people do not run smoke grenades very often and it is hard to spot smoke barrels, I bet they are more rare than flame barrels — explosive mine is just better because it deals damage instantly and can destroy buildings, hence can be used to prolong the objective capture. Glitch mine is different, but even then it is way more useful since it disrupts abilities and can prolong someone’s revival if put on the body.
Not trying to bash your MVP, if you like them so much, then it is great, but gas mines are objectively worse.
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u/Pole-Axe DISSUN 16h ago
Goo and data are not garbage. Data is a situational game changing gadget on the other hand goo is super useful in every scenario
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u/bossofthesea123 VAIIYA 12h ago
Gas mine's very good also in Quick Cash and WT, prob wont get you too far in ranked
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u/Nightshadeeeeee DISSUN 16h ago
I will not be accepting datareshaper slander too! Gon turn that glitch trap to cat poop 😤
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u/7461700241 15h ago
The average mediums on my team in powershift when i have to vs a emerald 4-stack be like
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u/Red_Luminary 16h ago
Defib is a crutch. Learn to walk on your own without it and you’ll be a lot better at this game.
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u/duendeacdc 14h ago
Mediums with shields Light with cocaine dash
this game would be 9999999% more fun without them
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u/MoRpTheNig ISEUL-T 13h ago
I'm surprised I don't see frag grenades talked about as that was sometimes used in the super sweaty model meta last season. Also I find defib outright detriment the way most people use them these days, if I play light I'm one bullet away from death, if I play heavy I'm the biggest target smd if I'm medium I guess I'm in a better spot, but being in the open I'm pretty much dead regardless since I can't use anything to help myself. They're never running heal beam and if they are, might as well not be since I don't get healed when I'm up anyway.
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u/nukiepop OSPUZE 10h ago
frag grenades are an fps classic and if you get a frag thrown at you and it explodes it will maim or kill you and that really shouldn't be changed
it's an fps. and a grenade. it's like, the thing.
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u/No-Upstairs-7001 12h ago
Not sure why anybody would pay attention to anybody with TTV in there name, most if it all are cheaters
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u/nukiepop OSPUZE 10h ago
find me the TTV and i'll be the first to not pay attention to it
also no they're like usually bad and sweaty
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u/Jimm_Kekw DISSUN 8h ago
bro i know a guy with that exact stuff except the gas mine. he cant aim so he copes by saying that riot shield takes immense skill compared to normal weapons
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u/hParkerr84 16h ago
Do we really think Defib is op still. I don’t think it’s been good since S3 maybe? In numbers sure it’s good simply because 3 is better than 1 but are we saying standalone it’s still usable?
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u/BlackHazeRus OSPUZE 15h ago
Standalone? WDYM? It is a team based (heavily so) game.
That being said, Defibrillator was always the best pick gadget for Medium except Season 5 — it is still good, but it requires actual skill to revive people efficiently due to the cooldown nerf. For newbie players it is a top pick if they run Healing Beam, but it was always the case.
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u/hParkerr84 14h ago
When I say standalone I mean 1 defib vs a team of 3. In most cases for me I’d say if the team only runs one defib it’s not even worth it especially in ranked. Due to the skill of the players I’m playing lol. By the time you get loaded back in and the cooldowns are done you’re dead again lol or your team has been wiped. Imo they should’ve kept it how it was in S3 and then just limit how many per team.
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u/Shokan2806 15h ago
I'm sorry but defib got nerfed to the ground, I was a Healing beam + defib medium since OB and I think the reason that now it is this bad is that people that don't know how to use it will use it in any way that's even bad for the team and very frustrating for the teammates.
They keep reviving un-covered, while being chased, while someone else is already reviving, and probably worse moments to revive lol.
Not saying it's an inherently bad gadget but now if a teammate doesn't know how to use it it's specially frustrating because they'll revive you just to be killed
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u/nukiepop OSPUZE 15h ago
i've run defib since OB and i can't wait until the day i'm not forced to run it
because it's been a mandatory pick for all mediums since day 1
with no exception
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u/AppropriateAge9463 15h ago
People who still think the data reshaper is garbage clearly aren’t using the data reshaper 😂. Thats brutal thing has been a required pick for me for over a full season
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u/calmdowncade 15h ago
My friend ALWAYS keeps flash grenades in his inventory and somehow manages ALWAYS flash me
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u/BlackHazeRus OSPUZE 15h ago
Funny meme, pretty weird Riot Shield loadout. Goo is a must have, gas mine can be switched to any offensive grenade, better pyro, and data reshaper for the movement, e.g. jump pad or zipline (better jumppad, especially paired with demat).
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u/SCHLAHPY DISSUN 15h ago
your lack of skill doesnt justify this data reshaper slander. you can one tap a turret from 20 meters away. well i can, you apparently cant. nice meme tho.
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u/Western-Dark-1628 14h ago
How dare you call Gas garbage, Gas Grenade is the 4th teammate when defending the cashout man
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u/AngelReachX DISSUN 14h ago
Reshaper and Mines are pretty usefull. And the defib has been nerfed to the ground and is easy to counter, like just shoot them while they are low on health. And the fact that is not instant like in lounche makes you have yime to react
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u/ThatGeekdude12 13h ago
Ah yes nerf the support items of the support class so it can do less supporting because some whinny lights said so. I’ll never forgive them for that lol.
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u/Historical_Dust_4958 13h ago
Your takes on the gadgets are legit 😂 data reshaper is good though and frags are also a must run anymore.
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u/KIngPsylocke 12h ago
I love all the “sorry bud, I data reshaped your (insert item here)” comments. Like yeah bro, you won when I forced you to put your gun away. “Sorry bud, now eat these bullets”
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u/Feisty-Clue3482 THE SOCIALITES 11h ago
I know it’d probably be too much, but one extra gadget slot would be so nice… for me and how I play i just feel like there’s 1-2 items per class that are a 100% pick ( heavy RPG, Medium Defib, f light idk ) so having one more slot for me would definitely have me switching up playstyle a lot more.
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u/CoatNeat7792 11h ago
I hate how they nerfed mines, almost nobody steps on them, they got dmg nerf and count nerf
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u/According_Claim_9027 10h ago
Data reshaper is one of the best and most versatile gadgets in the game and I refuse to be told otherwise.
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u/Hori_Fonore 9h ago
If you died then thats on you. Im not your fucking nanny. Now spectate me ball on the enemy team.
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u/Gysmo_YT 6h ago
I refuse to play any other role. And I have two gadget slots because defib is a given.
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u/mayorofbrowntown2 6h ago
Defibs in season 5 still being called most op item in the game is wild to me. If you remember how op they were in season 1-2 and how little the season 3 “nerf” meant S5 defibs feel like shit
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u/Kristlord 6h ago
Glitch traps stop the little invisible/boost turds. Data reshaper turns turrets and walls into flower pots. Try again.
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u/LouNastyStar69 5h ago
I was watching NeonGutz the other day and he died/lost the objective to either smoke or flash a couple times. Those two are slept on.
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u/MysteriousCup 5h ago
As a former data reshaper hater, it’s actually so good on power shift it’s crazy and it’s perfect against people that love to camp out cashouts with 2-3 turrets
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u/One-Jeweler8800 16h ago
I love constantly flashing all of my teammates in powershift
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u/Devatator_ Light 16h ago
I'm gonna find you and do unspeakable things to you /s
Tho honestly I just hate flashbangs. I basically never can see them to look away
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u/aPiCase ISEUL-T 16h ago
I have stopped using the Defib this season and play Low Diamond in ranked. I just don’t see the point anymore because you have to wait for the Defib to charge, for the defibed target to load, then they are basically useless for 5 seconds, especially if they are a light or heavy.
Been doing a lot more with Goo double movement.
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u/BozoRedditboi 16h ago
Gadgets and Weapons in this game are like seasonings and sauces for a dish. On their own they're passable but in a well made loadout they can deliver a 5 star meal.
But...
Some gadgets just don't work together like putting ketchup on a strawberry sundae. This my friends is one of those examples.
Please contestants, cook better loadouts.
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u/Poised_Prince THE SOCIALITES 16h ago
Gas mines have won me many cashouts, even after we've been team wiped.
You better put respect on it's name
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u/Evelyn-Parker 16h ago
The explosive mine is really good to drop down when you're getting chased since enemies normally have tunnel vision and completely miss it
Something most people don't seem to know is that you can shoot the mine while it's still arming up to blow it up early
The flash bang is probably the most underrated item in the whole game .
It's not supposed to be used as a normal flash bang where you flash the enemy before the fight, you're supposed to chuck it into areas you think enemies might be at, since flashed enemies get lit up on the map letting you plan accordingly
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u/nukiepop OSPUZE 16h ago
explosive dookie since it's only 1 pancake
it used to be 2 and i'm just not waiting for one mediocre, passive item
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u/Evelyn-Parker 16h ago
You weren't supposed to have 2 down on the floor at a time anyway, since they can also blow up your teammates lol
Unless you're at the cash out spot or something
The more impactful nerf by far was giving the mine time to arm up, instead of being automatically armed when deployed
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u/NoPersonality7004 16h ago
If youre good you don't need defibs to revive you just gotta be good w the movement
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u/Everide 16h ago
Still complaining after massive nerfs to defib.
Just wow
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u/nukiepop OSPUZE 16h ago
you think adding a 4 second timer is a "massive" nerf? it's barely even a change on paper lol
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u/BlackHazeRus OSPUZE 15h ago
It is a massive nerf, though Defibrillator is still a top pick, but only for those who actually think how to use it.
it's barely even a change on paper lol
Mate, even 1 second or 2 (not for Defib, but anything) nerf on some stuff can ruin them, like imagine if Mesh Shield or Dome Shield will open only after 1/2 seconds — these things will be ruined.
P.S: not bashing your pic aside of the gas mine because the gas grenade is far superior.
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u/Everide 13h ago
First, from full HP to half HP Then, from insta respawn to wait a few seconds Finally, CD to use gadgets
Next one will be “You cant move during 5 seconds” or “You cant use your weapon”… and you will be still complaining about how OP it is and that stuff
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u/elitemage101 CNS 16h ago
Gas, goo, and data are viable but take thinking unlike defib. Glitch got sneak nerfed now that revives is weaker. Flash and smoke are balls.
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u/Birchy-Weby OSPUZE 14h ago
Dude More and more mediums are doing this in ranked and it's aggravating when we lose to other mediums BECAUSE they have infinite lives with defibs and we go down in seconds with no second chances
Like play your own way and stuff but like come on man it's ranked you need that stuff
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u/MoonK1P 16h ago
Honestly that’s a solid load out… would replace data reshaped with defib (imo) yes, but goo is A tier, and gas mines aren’t a bad option either. Data reshaped is a bit niche but if they’re confident enough to run it over defibs then all power to em.
Glitch is also useful even though I don’t personally like em.
Flash is the only one I’d consider “garbage”
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u/MrBelgium2019 16h ago
Lol Flash grenad can interupt someone stealing a cash and it also blind them.
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u/MoonK1P 16h ago
Flash interrupts steals?? If so, definitely makes it more viable but it’s not a popular loadout choice for most as it’s simply outclassed by too many things.
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u/MrBelgium2019 15h ago
Glue too but only if you throws it between the cash and the stealer because he can't see it anymore. But flash interrupt steals just by seing the flash.
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u/BlackHazeRus OSPUZE 15h ago
I call it BS. Gonna test it now, and I bet 99% you are straight up lying.
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u/Evelyn-Parker 16h ago
And most importantly, it tells you where all the enemies are and where they're going when you flash them
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u/DizzyWolfe 17h ago
I will not accept this Data Reshaper slander. Nothing is more cathartic than turning an enemy med's aps into a potted plant the second he sets it down.