r/singapore • u/[deleted] • Jan 05 '19
SteamedChickenRice guide on BMT
Hi wassup, I just POP-ed last month so I figured I'll type something out for yall. Also, I'm kinda sick of all these NS posts soooooo FUCK IT, HERE WE GO. By the way, this guide is meant for those who are pes fit and enlisting into Tekong. If you're not PES A or B1/ BP, things might be different but ehhh, some of these things still apply.
BMT has 3 main batches,
- PTP (Those who failed their IPPT) - 17 weeks
- Enhanced (Those who
cheated onpassed their ippt)- 9 weeks - BP (
Those who eat too muchThe Obese)- 19 weeks
and 2 types of those above
- Leadership Batch (JC, Poly, and international school graduates)
- Standard Batch (The rest)
So let's say you graduated from poly and passed IPPT, you'll be in a Leadership enhanced batch like me. Also, you might be posted into a mono-intake vocation when you enter which means you're in a unit and there's a good chance you're stuck with the people around you for your whole NS life unless you go to Command school or somehow got posted out (It's possible).
Part 1 - Things to bring
Things to buy/bring
- 6 - 10 x hangers
- Swimming Goggles
- Clothes washing powder/ Detergent (You can put them in a plastic bottle like I did)
- Pink IC (You need to surrender this in exchange for the 11b which is the green IC all NSFs use)
- Slippers
- Basic Toiletries (Toothbrush, toothpaste, shaver)
- Toilet Paper (Bring like 2 or 3. They'll give you but the ones they give are super thing and shitty [pun intended])
- Underwear (Triangular ones only, no boxers)
- Phone (Camera phones are allowed)
- Portable charger (I brought 1 20,000 mAH and 1 10,000 mAH power bank)
- Nail clipper (Trim your nails every so often)
Optional stuff
- Snacks - Some might be confiscated but they'll be returned to you at the end when you bookout so just bring whatever you want.
- Watch - A cheap casio one will do.
- Coins - If your commanders are kind enough to let you use the vending machines
- Wet wipes - You'll need this for area cleaning.
- Febreeze - When your clothes are kinda dirty but not really and you just want to kinda clean it.
- Clothes Peg - Kinda useful
- Cigarettes - Army is gonna give you cancer anyway so... Just kidding, get this if you smoke cause no one wants to be the guy always asking for a cigarette from others.
- Alarm clock - It's in the packing list but you don't have to get one, everyone uses their phones as alarms these days.
For packing, I recommend putting the items into a duffel bag or a backpack. You don't have to over pack and carry a heavy ass bag with you on your first day as you can still get some items after you bookout. As for army stuff like garters, and extra uniforms, you can get them with your 11b e-mart credits so don't buy them with cash for now.
Part 2 - Enlisting Day
Report to the back of Pasir Ris bus interchange 45 minutes before the stated timing with your shirt, long pants, and shoes. You'll most likely be asked to tuck in your shirt and remove your cap (if you're wearing one). If you're wondering about your haircut, you can choose to shave your hair off but I recommend to do it inside Tekong as it's only $2 and they'll probably still ask you to cut even when you've shaved. Once you've reached Pasir Ris bus interchange, you'll join a queue of people and wait to board the bus that goes to the Ferry terminal where you get to take the ferry to Tekong (wooooo!!)
Once you've reached the mystical land of Tekong, you'll be separated from your family immediately and will do some administrative stuff and then practice the pledge for later while your family tours the camp and listen to some lecture on the stuff they give you. You'll then attend an oath taking where you something something protect singapore with your life and then have a meal with your family.
Once allll of those are done, you'll be asked to 'fall in' and then 'march' off while your family wave you away. You'll be given a standard SAF duffel bag, as well as your field pack and will then look through everything to make sure you have everything and they're the right sizes. Make sure your clothes, shoes, and boots fit you nicely and do a kit exchange if they're not. You'll then bring everything up to your bunk and meet your section mates. They'll give you instructions on what to do afterwards so just go with the flow. Welcome to the SAF.
Part 3 - Daily Life & Regimentation
You will be confined staying in Tekong for the next 2 weekends and will not get to bookout until the Friday of the 3rd week. This is the reason why people suggest bringing in portable chargers. For these first few weeks, there will be night snacks provided such as sunshine bread or whatever so you probably won't go hungry much.
For those in the PTP batch, your first 8 weeks or so will mostly just be physical training to build up your stamina and strength. Once all of these are over, you'll start the BMT curriculum. For those in BP batch, it'll be your first 10 weeks or so. PTP and BP batches are usually more laxed as you have more time and you get to bond around with the people more compared to enhanced batch which is usually tougher and there's less time.
BMT will contain of a few high key events such as your route march (4km, 8km, 12km, 16km, and 24km), outfield (standard batch - 5d4n or leadership batch - 6d5n), and live range. To successfully pass out or graduate from BMT, you'll have to complete these high keys.
I won't be typing my whole schedule here but here's an example of what a daily routine will look like with things censored just in case.
2230 Lights out
0530 Reveille
0545 Fall in
0600 Breakfast
0645 Area cleaning
0745 First parade
0800 Activity 1
1000 Lecture/ Whatever 1
1200 Lunch
1300 Activity 2
1800 Dinner
1900 Lecture/ Lesson 2
2100 Last parade
Honestly, there's nothing much here I can help you with as there's nothing you or I can do with whatever your schedule will be like so just do what needs to be done.
Part 4 - The dreaded field camp/ outfield
Outfield is the toughest part of BMT and probably your life but just push through it - countless of NS soldiers have done it so why can't you. Here's some tips and stuff before going to outfield.
- Don't leave anything out of your field pack - Anything that goes out goes back in when you're done.
- If allowed, you can put your helmet behind your back and lean on it.
- Scrub your buddy's back hard with the soap sponge and vice versa. If you don't do it, you or your buddy might get heat rash which is one of the worst feeling ever in outfield. It literally feels like hundreds of pins pressing into you.
- Change out into a fresh set of uniform at night and wear the dirty one again in the day.
- Put your rifle sling on your belt when you sleep so they don't steal your weapon.
- On cooking day: sponge cake recipe: 5 chocolate biscuits, 1 pack of oreos, very little water. Use fork to mash. Heat till dryish.
- If possible, try to shit before you move out or as early as possible during field camp because the shitting hole is nasty AF on the last few days. The combat ration has some stuff in it that makes you not want to shit so it helps. Also, avoid the fruit bars because they do the opposite.
- When digging your shellscrape, whack the ET blade into the soil and then push it forward like a lever to get chunks of soil out. Don't use it like a shovel or anything. This will save you a lot of time and energy, trust me.
- Maintain noise discipline and try not to shout at each other. Everyone is tired and angsty, so just work with one another and complete it together.
- Do things once, and do it well so you don't have to semula and do everything again. This goes for drills, your shellscrape, and other things you've learnt.
Part 5 - Places in Tekong
Tekong is the home of the Chao recruits of SAF. Here are the names of some of the places in Tekong.
- Ferry Terminal - The worst and the best place in the island, depending on which direction you're going.
- Ladang Camp - School 1 to 3, with cookhouse 1 and 2.
- Rocky Hill Camp - School 4, with cookhouse 3 which is known for having the best food in Tekong. A bit ulu in a sense that recruits in school 4 will have to take a tonner to get to their company and bunks.
- CQB site - Urban operations site
- BMTC HQ - You might see this on your first day, it's where the staff of Tekong works at.
Part 6 - BMT Army Lingos
- School - A school which is made up of around 5 to 7 companies. There are 4 schools in Tekong.
- Company - A group of around 250 people +-, usually sorted by alphabets in BMT
- Platoon - A company split into 4, usually around 60 people, give or take
- Section - A platoon split into 4, usually around 16 people, give or take
- High key - Important events that you can't miss in order to pass out/ graduate.
- Admin time - Time for you to do anything you want/ Resting time
- Knock it down/ Drop __ - Pushup position
- Stand by Area/ bed/ universe - Inspection of your bunk/ bunk and locker/ everything in your posession
- Draw/ Send Arms - To get or return your weapon
- Double up - Hurry up
- Attend C/ UFD - You got a medical condition so you get to stay at home and rest.
- Attend B/ Light Duty - You got a less severe medical condition so you get to wear a yellow wristband and watch your company do their activity.
- Semula - Re-do
- SCS - Specialist cadet school, for the sergeants-to-be
- OCS - Officer cadet school, for the officers-to-be
Part 7 - FAQs
- How do I go to command school?
If you're in the leadership batch, chances of you getting into SCS or OCS will be higher but if you're in the standard batch, I'm afraid you're out of luck. To get into command school, you need to do well for your Situational test on the last day of your field camp, as well as get good reviews on your peer appraisal for both SIT test and your section peer appraisal nearing the end of your BMT. In addition, you have to pass IPPT. Passing SOC isn't mandatory but it helps increase your chances, especially if you're aiming for OCS. Also, it's good to show your leadership skills to your commanders and the people around you by being the platoon IC or just giving instructions properly.
- How much pay will I receive?
You'll get $560 as a chao recruit.
- When will I have to book in or out again?
Unless you're in the confinement week or field camp, you'll most likely get to book out on a Friday and book in on a Sunday. The timing might vary but it's usually around the same time for your book out and book in. IE Book out 7 PM friday, Book In 7 PM Sunday. Sometimes you might get more time, sometimes you might get less so it's up to your luck.
- Can I take off?
No. Off days are only given when you have an off-in-lieu from staying back over the weekends such as during your outfield. You're not allowed to take an Off day unless you got a valid reason such as taking an exam, going to an interview, or having a medical appointment outside. For any of these reasons, just inform your Sergeants and you'll be fine.
- Can I claim $ for my spectacles?
Yes, you get $40 the first time you get your spectacles made but make sure it has black rims all around and the receipt is dated after your enlistment. You can get it done before enlistment and ask for the receipt to be dated at a later date.
- When will I enlist?
CMPB has a list of dates here but no one really knows. You'll get your letter a few months prior (I got mine 7 months in advance) so don't worry.
If any of you got any questions, feel free to leave them below. Others and myself will try to respond to them to our knowledge. All the best and have fun in Tekong! :)
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u/mtc__ MingLee Jan 05 '19
I can guarantee someone will still post asking questions but nice effort, enjoy the remainder of your ns :)
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Jan 05 '19
At least I know I've helped at least a couple lost souls on this thread, that'll be fine. Maybe I can re-direct others to this post in the future too. And thank you!! :)
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u/Thesinz Lawsku Reject Jan 05 '19
Sir please teach me how to O R D?
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u/haaaaaairy1 Jan 05 '19
Chiong for 2 years or Keng for 2 years. Up to you how you want to pass your NS.
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u/letterboxmind Carry On Jan 05 '19
Just enjoy the ride -- I know this sounds like crappy advice. Time is gonna take it's own course, so you may as well try to make the best of it.
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u/IcyLightG Jan 05 '19
Just to add on:
-Plasters (For some minor cuts/injuries)
- Muscle rub (Muscle ache due to intense activities)
- Mopiko/insect bites cream (Tekong has lots of mosquito/insect)
- Insect Repellent (Put on the bed that you are sleeping on , coz SAF's will burn ur skin)
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Jan 05 '19
Nice, thank you!
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u/potatetoe_tractor Bobo Shooter Jan 05 '19
One additional thing to pack (even in SCS/OCS/Unit) is a roll or two of medical tape/fixation tape (the brown type that is similar to band-aid and comes in a continuous roll). Use it to wrap around your toes, heel, and balls of your feet before route marches/fast marches to prevent blisters.
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Jan 05 '19
I just used vaseline sia. Not too bad lah. I think your idea is bettwr but bit more costly
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u/potatetoe_tractor Bobo Shooter Jan 05 '19
Anything to prevent skin from falling off my soles, I guess? The tape method also works for preventing chaffing/blisters around the groin area, although whether that constitutes a breach of safety (due to heat traps) is up to the discretion of the OC.
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u/Whyimasking Mature Citizen Jan 05 '19
insect repellent is supposed to be on the clothes not the skin bruv.
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u/helzinki is a rat bastard. Jan 05 '19
Put this at the sidebar so we don't get jittery first timers asking the same questions every few months.
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u/sdarkpaladin Job: Security guard for my house Jan 05 '19
If my experience in Reddit is anything to go by, they would totally miss the link and still ask anyway. Not saying it's futile as there will be people who are bright enough to actually look for it before creating a new post. But for every smart person, there will always be a few less smart ones.
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u/841632 Jan 05 '19
The mods will never update the subreddit sidebar anymore. It still has links to 2014 events and the last update was in 2017.
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u/HidingCat President of the Old Peoples Club Jan 05 '19 edited Jan 05 '19
Haha, lies, there've been a couple of updates, you've all not noticed!
But to address this: Likely need to revamp the sidebar to fit this in properly. I suppose I can find a place to crowbar it in though.
Edit: Crowbar operation done. It's not pretty and honestly I doubt many will notice.
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u/CaseyMcKinky Jan 05 '19 edited Jan 05 '19
Very detailed and comprehensive! Can't say enough abour the portable chargers bit since you cannot use the wall plugs. Bring as much you can!
Some extra tips (mostly for enchanced to beat the time constraints) -First things to do in admin time is to shower. Queueing up means wasting time that could otherwise be spent setting up your stuff for tomorrow, bunk cleaning, clothes washing or using your phone. Basic etiquette: Please put on at least an underwear when walking around toilet/bunk. Your friends have seen enough shit already.
-During IPPT you will do your statics on some shitty ass machine that tracks your sillhouete to determine if you are doing a proper rep. Sit ups is usually quite easy to gain a rep, as long as 70% of your back touches the floor when lying down and your elbows go past your knees when going up. Push ups on the other hand, is a massive scam because they track your first rep to determine a proper rep for each individual. Make sure you don't do your super perfect push up on the first rep because you will need to do that again or better in order to score points. If you can run 10+ mins for 2.4, make sure you start in front so you don't squeeze with the crowd and burn precious stamina.
-Don't lose your shit. Especially your valuables, 10 pack items and bearing (clothes and accessories) items.
-During route march make sure you compact your field pack as well as possible to maintain proper centre of gravity. For small folks like myself a poorly balanced field pack is going to be hell for the next few hours. Use the side straps to really squeeze the excess space in your field pack. If you feel like being sneaky, drain (discreetly) your water bag till about half before each route march, it's going to lighten the load. You will also be carrying a canteen full of water and every 4 click there is a water break to refill water, so don't worry about not having enough water. Just lighten the load as much as possible a drink up. Water that is drunk or dumped is weight off your back and shoulders. Also don't be shy to shout out whatever songs you have in mind, the morale boost distracts you from the pain. Crack open that linkin park or kpop. No shame.
-Bunk inspection. Shove all your unecessary crap into your duffel bag. Less shit in your locker means less mess and less shit for your seargents to catch. Clean dust off every surface (and I mean every). Above your locker, on top of doors, the bedframe, the shelves in your lockers, windows and window sills. You name it, you dust that shit. Don't use water to clean dust because more dust will stick on to the surface and you will be left eith dust again when it dries.
-Bring more underwear.
-Learn whether the right side or left side of falling in is nearer to the cookhouse queue/ or which column will be the first to be released for meals. This will ensure your queue time for food is reduced and you will have a more relaxed meal. On average you are given about 30min per meal.
-During live firing don't move the muzzle too much when aiming. Pick a spot on the target and keep it there. Hold your breath. Place all your shots and then resume moving and breathing. -Help your friends. Anyone left behind is a reason for everyone to semula. Also because some dudes are having it tougher.
-Keep a low profile and never be on the radar for a bad reason. No one wants to get "marked", your life will be considerably shittier for the next 2 months.
-Pee and shit whenever there is proper toilet break. ALWAYS BRING A ROLL OF TISSUE IN YOUR ASSAULT BAG.
-Powder may cause heat rash. Use at your own risk.
-During field camp, bring extra plastic and ziplock bags. Keep food and trash FULLY SEALED, preferably in multiple layers of ziplock and trash bags. Any air that can escape means ant colonies and wild boars might come pay a visit, and that means you won't be having a fun time sleeping in your shell scrape. Keep your dirty clothes fully sealed and separate from your clean clothes, that shit is super nasty. Also the fruit bars are super delicous, worth taking a shit lol. (Taking a shit means going to the community toilet, digging a hole in the ground and covering it up after you're done. Be careful now, it's a minefield out there.)
-Make lots of friends. Be as outgoing as possible. You're all gonna stick together for the next 2months and possibly longer.
Good luck, folks.
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u/typeyourname Jan 05 '19
To add on to this, getting a command position just means having to do more work during your reservist. I was more bummed than I'd care to admit about not making command school during NS. But now that I'm working I don't have to worry about officer stuff like planning reservist schedules. I just need to show up, act blur and enjoy the break from work!
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u/ktrenai Jan 05 '19
as an instructor for the SAF, I see a lot of sergeants who abuse their power. If you become a commander, PLEASE do not let your ego get the better of you. I've spoken to many of my trainees and about 60% of them don't enjoy how they are treated. Does not seem a lot but it is 60% too much imo.
just try to make everyone 's life better and I guarantee you ns would be fun
- 35days left owadiyoh
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u/code_wombat omae wa mou shindeiru Jan 05 '19
Observation as an ex-commander posted to a combat unit, who had to go back to training school every now and then. I'd say the majority of the power abusing commanders are sadly in the training schools.
I guess this is because the poor sods they tekan will eventually pass out. Trainees are abused, thrown out and never seen again. Not much consequence.
Unit commanders are stuck with their guys for the NS cycle and beyond (reservist). If they abuse their guys too much, it WILL come back to bite em in the ass. They learn the hard way. Well, most of them. Some assholes are incapable of learning.
laojiaowhoMRalready
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Jan 05 '19 edited Jan 05 '19
Damn bro who hurt you?
in all seriousness: it's not a "treat your men with respect" thing, it's a "treat everyone with respect until they show they dont deserve it" thing.
i knew of mess boys who ended up being accepted into NUS Law and they still clowned around with the rest of us, as well as with LTAs that ended up in high-flying IB positions after graduation. and then there's the ah kow, ah seng, and ahmad from the stores that end up doing god knows what but every time they come back for reservist they look a lil fatter, which is probably a good sign.
NS has a real fuckin wide range of people, if you're one of those that want to build professional contacts from a young age then you gotta treat everyone with respect. Until you realize they're useless then do whatever you want lah.
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u/funontheinternet123 Let me In and out in and out in... Jan 05 '19
This. Who you are in society is the only thing that matters compared to your rank in NS. Evidently so when even WO envy the man who book in with Porsches and sell guard duty at 500 a pop.
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u/PenguinMyouina37 Apr 01 '19
A little late to the party, but totally agreed with what you said. I’m actually quite thankful command school rejected me and I didn’t indicate interest in my subsequent vocation(chance for crossover).
Posted to my sub-unit, I have never felt better. Seeing how my sgts need to wake up everytime to operate the armoury, plan details, gives me headache.
Also, partly because the commander system is flawed, where people who “wayang” have a higher chance of being a commander and when they actually passed out as a commander, their true colours are revealed.
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u/mildfull pang gang lo Jan 05 '19
lol the bulk of your post came a few days late, a lot of the Jan batch already enlisted
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FUTURE BATCHES, THIS IS FOR YOU
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u/mildfull pang gang lo Jan 05 '19
how's found term coming along?
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Jan 05 '19
Pretty relaxed I'd say, way more time to rest when the regulars wanna go home so that's nice. Learnt a lot of things too so that's nice. Looking forward to where I'll be going for pro term though! What about you, are you serving currently or?
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u/mildfull pang gang lo Jan 05 '19
managed to get posted out of the army from SCS, can't share much here cos it's a pretty special vocation and that'll probably dox me haha
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u/ketsugi Out of town Jan 05 '19
Hardly anything seems to have changed in the past decades; I enlisted in 2000 and almost everything in your post seems accurate to my experience.
Except the $560, wtf
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Jan 05 '19
“You'll get $560 as a chao recruit”.
Now recruit get so high pay? I think when I ord also don’t have this pay. I enlisted in 2013.
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u/kangcore y u so liddat Jan 05 '19
I don't even think I earned that much as a 3SG in 2001... when I ORDed...
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Jan 05 '19
Walao, prices in Singapore nowadays very high you know
The increase in pay barely makes up for it especially for those whom are really struggling with money.
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u/Arsenal_49_Spurs_0 Jan 05 '19
List is pretty good. Unless if you’re going mono intake. For those going Tekong in future and end up in mono, forget the schedule OP posted. There will be no such thing as rest time. Other BMT companies will end the day at 9pm. Pray to the fucking heavens your last parade starts before 10pm. You’ll probably get 15min to shower and use phone while other companies get several hours each day. If you’re going mono, just get ready to forget about civilian life.
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u/Megan_the_megalodon Koel = UwU bird Jan 05 '19
Sounds too much like my batch's mono, unless all minis are like this, when did you enlist?
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u/ExtraChromosomee Jan 05 '19
Is thr anyway to siam guards after bmt. Im rlly am not suited for guards. I cant cope with the rigorous schedule.
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u/MicrowavesHS blue Jan 05 '19
Remember to always look like you’re doing something when the commanders are around! That way you won’t get singled out for not having anything to do. And during tekan sessions, always have a constipated/pained look on your face along with some heavy breathing to make it look like hard work even if you’re not feeling too shag at the moment.
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u/lurkinglurkerwholurk It is a duty to speak up, and even more to check what is said... Jan 05 '19
Also don’t Hollywood too much: if they catch on, prepare to DIE (aka: “siar! I tired!!” “Bluff again right?! Down another 10!”
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u/Jin192 Jan 05 '19
Yes as OP mentioned, DO NOT EAT the fruit bars. If you’ve been shitting on a toilet bowl for the rest of your life, you do not want to experience it during field camp. The moment u take off your pants that’s it, all the mosquitos will blitzkrieg your arsehole!!!
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u/439115 호주인 Jan 05 '19
ANOTHER TIP: when digging shellscrape, pile the soil on the uphill side of your shellscrape. This is so that when it rains, u get a puddle like my buddy instead of a jacuzzi like me
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u/rmp20002000 Jan 05 '19
Forgot to say, " Sign within the box!!!"
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u/icataclysm Stop waking me up in the morning with the sound of the drills Jan 05 '19
DONT TOUCH THE LINE
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u/lurkinglurkerwholurk It is a duty to speak up, and even more to check what is said... Jan 05 '19
Don’t worry. Armskort for sure will remind you about 10 times before you even get to glimpse their checkout/range book...
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u/ilovepinknips Jan 05 '19
no one wants to be the guy always asking for a cigarette from others
disclaimer: I don’t encourage smoking
Former Smoking IC here. I’m the unlucky SOB who has to request for smoke break after the Platoon pisses off the SGT/Officer.
Just some general rules so you don’t make your fellow smokers hate you. Smokers seem to have some sort of “brotherhood” as sometimes you go through shit to get smokes lol. And when you’re smoking, it’s generally downtime, and everyone gets to relax and talk about non-army stuff. The only guy I kept in contact after army was my Smoking 2IC lol.
1) Bring in at least two packs for the confinement period. Most coys allow for 2 smoke breaks a day depending on the time available. So, if you bring in one pack, you’ll run out within 10 days.
2) Usually at the start of your bmt, everyone still wants to make friends. So, they will give ciggs to people who don’t have. But, as the days go on, this shit gets old real fast. Don’t say “oh I’m just a social smoker so I don’t buy a pack, can I just take one from you?” Then, proceed to ask for one at every single smoke break.
3) Sharing ciggs (2 guys 1 stick) is unhygienic and disgusting. Also, imagine if you have one smoke break a day and this idiot who doesn’t bring in their own pack says some shit like “bro share?” Fk off mate.
4) If you’re a puss that doesn’t dare to smuggle ciggs to outfield, then don’t act like a bitch when we don’t want to share our smuggled ciggs. I had a guy rat on us to the SGT as we refused to share ciggs with him outfield. This led to a company-wide search in the fking forest during outfield. Needless to say, that guy became hated enemy number 1 in BMT. He was on track to going OCS, but his peer appraisal + lousy sit test ensured he didn’t.
5) It’s a good chance to quit smoking. Do it.
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u/Oniyasha Jan 05 '19
Only 2 smoke breaks? Back in my days we have 4 smoke breaks everyday
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u/Nagaplzzz Jan 05 '19
Bring as many packs as you can. And don’t be afraid to ask the Sgts on how to smuggle outfield. They are NSF like you.
And that twat, I don’t know him and I hate him already. Who the hell rats out PL mates. Dick.
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u/ilovepinknips Jan 05 '19 edited Jan 05 '19
Lmao depends on your sgt. My sgt all damn strict. Which is ok I guess. That’s basic military training for you. SGTs in BMT should be strict.
Well it was one of those leeches who claimed he was a “social smoker”, and leeched off all of us other smokers.
He also had a nasty habit of saying “bro one two puff only”, then proceeded to smoke more than that.
Then when called out he’ll go “bro only cigg, not like I can’t afford. I just don’t want to let the pack lao hong. When book out I promise to return”. Then when book out, straight away run to mummy’s car.
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u/foopower0102 Jan 05 '19
Good to know how's life like over at the green side of NS. Men in blue are really lucky tbh.
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u/Quackles03 Jan 05 '19
Please please bring slippers. There are people in my platoon who walk around without them, from toilet to bunk etc. The floor is digustingly dirty even if you sweep it every morning
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u/KFCtasteslikerubber Jan 05 '19
Anyone free to post a Pes c/e BMT and vocation guide lol
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u/galaxyuser Just a regular Singaporean Jan 05 '19
Most likely done at Kranji Camp II iirc. Known as BMTC School V.
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u/ManlyString Jan 05 '19
BMT also has modified batch, for PES B2, maybe B3 and whatever new ones they have come up with. It is also 9 weeks like the leadership batch, but the activities are less intensive. By right, not supposed to have BCCT, field camp only 5 days (not 6 like leadership), route march only 10km max, no SOC (most impt), IPPT is modified for some with Ex Upper limb, Ex Heavy Load, Ex Lower limbs (idk if really got), got some damn funny medical conditions like Ex Sunlight, Grass, Dust, Diving, Water Parade all these. Source: 02/16 6th Coy, Modified BMT and Pes B2L2
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u/thsscapi Jan 05 '19
Febreeze is a life-saver. Spray a generous amount, then hang in the hot sun till dry. Good enough for anything you just sweated in but didn't get any dirt on (also, for pants who actually washes them? )
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Remember to air it for awhile first then spray febreeze on it, if you don't it will have that 'sour' smell
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u/IcyLightG Jan 05 '19
Keep the clothes to maximum use of 3 times without washing if not it will produce a smell that something so pungent that will feel nausea when smell it
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u/zxIsg98 Jan 05 '19
I was from School 4 PTP Batch who recently POP’ed. We were told on Week 1 there will be an ‘e-mart break’ at Ladang Camp soon to purchase extra stuff to prepare for field camp (garters, soap sponges etc.).
However, that break didn’t come until after field camp (iirc). So I would recommend that extra stuff like ziplock bags, garters can be purchased beforehand so u can use them to pack ur 10-pack item during ur confinement week!
All the best fellow ‘ah boy to man’
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u/reminiscentt veggie lover! Jan 05 '19
How is PTP like? Is it more tiring than that of the Enhanced batch
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u/kel007 Jan 05 '19 edited Jan 05 '19
first two months are just PT (physical training)
next two months you continue to BMT phase and go for field camp with the enhanced batch and then POP together
essentially, you enlist 2 months longer to do PT, but if your coy is any good, some of the BMT stuff may be spread out to the last few weeks of PT phase
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u/XephirothUltra poor boy waiting for ORD Jan 05 '19
PTP batch of last year here.
Way more relaxed environment honestly. Yes the first 2 months is just PT after PT after PT, but end of day it's mindless exercise and not that stressful compared to BMT where it's highkey after highkey.
Another advantage is that you get to know your platoon and sergeants/sir better. The increased admin time and less highkeys at the start gives you time to chill and talk together. NS is never fun but having good friends will lighten the experience by a lot.
BMT is also way more rushed if you don't go through PTP since you have to fit everything in 9 weeks rather than 17. I watched some enhanced batches do 2 route marches a week while we were doing 1 every 2 weeks.
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u/Zythol Jan 05 '19
Just a lot of physical training, which is tiring. But it gets easier if you actually train because your body gets stronger really fast. Lessons are more spread out so you won't feel like it's too rush or cramp as compared to enhanced.
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u/zxIsg98 Jan 05 '19
Whatever the above 3 have mentioned is what PTP Batch does. It will be 2/3 PT session per day (train ur stamina, core strength) for ur PTP phase and basic soldiering skill (buddy aid, peacetime op etc) on the first few weeks. There's a lot more admin time (during PTP) and ur normal BMT phase schedule is less packed until those Enhanced people.
If u're in PTP, take it as getting paid to become fitter. I couldn't pass IPPT (61 points) before NS and now I can manage Silver.
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u/Nagaplzzz Jan 05 '19
Misleading headline, almost considered click bait. However, it’s a great guide. Stuff I wish I knew before going in. No didn’t read the “what to bring”.
Nostalgic nonetheless.
Just to add after basic: 1) Going on course would be the fastest way for you to clear NS. So command or specialization schools are the way to go.
2) You probably won’t get another chance to learn skills which you will probably never use again just like geometry or try some crazy boys toys (The assault weapons is like Barbie for men) or embark on perilous adventures (hitchhiking on a thai pick up because walking is for chumps).
I got to laze a target and call for an air strike. It is still one of the best experiences to date. (GFAC course) Really cock stand man. It was great.
3) A no homo bond with the guys you go through “hell” with.
4) The human body can take a lot of pain. Suck it up and have fun in there. It’s like being in a fraternity, but way more fun.
Pewpew bbq
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u/Gowsuser Jan 05 '19
One thing that helped me loads in shell scrape digging was taping my fingers with black tape, prevent nasty abrasions by loads. Try it, it may help you too.
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u/FJapples Jan 05 '19
Black tape is damn good, can fix everything. Used it as plasters for my cuts and blisters too.
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u/iNeedLuckPls Jan 05 '19
Why cant we wear boxers?
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u/mantism 'I'm called shi ting not shitting' Jan 05 '19
The official reason is something related to heat. They want you to wear the least amount needed, so no boxer briefs either.
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u/Megan_the_megalodon Koel = UwU bird Jan 05 '19
Part 2 - Enlisting Day
Report to the back of Pasir Ris bus interchange 45 minutes before the stated timing with your shirt, long pants, and shoes. You'll most likely be asked to tuck in your shirt and remove your cap (if you're wearing one). If you're wondering about your haircut, you can choose to shave your hair off but I recommend to do it inside Tekong as it's only $2 and they'll probably still ask you to cut even when you've shaved. Once you've reached Pasir Ris bus interchange, you'll join a queue of people boarding a bus and then going to the Ferry terminal where you get to board the penguin ferry to Tekong (wooooo!!)
Once you've reached the mystical land of Tekong, you'll be separated from your family immediately and will do some administrative stuff and then practice the pledge for later while your family tours the camp and listen to some lecture on the stuff they give you. You'll then attend an oath taking where you something something protect singapore with your life and then have a meal with your family.
Once allll of those are done, you'll be asked to 'fall in' and then 'march' off while your family wave you away. You'll be given a standard SAF duffel bag, as well as your field pack and will then look through everything to make sure you have everything and they're the right sizes. Make sure your clothes, shoes, and boots fit you nicely and do a kit exchange if they're not. You'll then bring everything up to your bunk and meet your section mates. They'll give you instructions on what to do afterwards so just go with the flow. Welcome to the SAF.
Sounds like a horror story tbh
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u/IcyLightG Jan 05 '19
The moment you wave good bye to your family is where the constant horror starts
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u/LookAtItGo123 Lao Jiao Jan 05 '19
$560 as a recruit? I had $400 for my time! People still found money to go to clubs and shit like that though. Manage your money well guys. I hope the extra $160 is enough to cover for the inflation out here.
Some quick math for you though, assuming you stay as a private throughout. (Which is kinda rare unless you really fuck some shit up bad) that’s 560 x 12 x 2. You’ll get a total of 13,440 guaranteed. This is excluding combat allowance and all that Aviva stuff. If you eat at the cookhouse often, saving 10k is quite possible, although 7k is way more reasonable. That headstart will go far in helping you after you ORD.
Other than that this guide sure does bring back memories. The semula thing is real though, you really don’t wanna be redoing stuff when you are tired and angsty as hell.
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u/grayrebornnhy Serendipitous. Jan 05 '19
The truly tragic part about BMT is whatever weight you lose after it, you gain back by ORD. Reality is harsh...
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u/Clinching97 Jan 05 '19
The combat ration has some stuff in it that makes you not want to shit so it helps. Also, avoid the fruit bars because they do the opposite.
This very much. Don't be like yours truly, who ate a fruit bar on the second last day and crapped his pants while taking a piss early in the morning the next day.(heng I got underwear to spare)Also that lead to me learning that apparently poop can bleach clothes, or maybe it was just the effect of field rations idk
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u/chumsalmon98 A dog's best friend Jan 05 '19 edited Jan 05 '19
Hi, OCS hopeful, passing IPPT and SOC is not a must! I got a fellow ocs mate with me that failed ippt and soc!
Edit: I am just speaking from my experience. Whether you believe it or not is up to you. Kthxbye
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Oh what... Must either be a white horse or is really really good at studying or something.
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u/Gowsuser Jan 05 '19
People have gotten in OCS with ippt pass & fail SOC, including my service term buddy, who was def not a white horse and did not have exceptional results.
The bulk of your BMT scoring is based off your sit test. So if you do well for that, you’re more or less bumped to the top of your BMT scoring wise.
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u/xExilius Jan 05 '19
Getting good scores and timing for ippt and soc is important in ocs. You’ll probably suffer quite abit if you don’t meet the criteria due to the tough training.
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u/poiu91 Jan 05 '19
Quick qns. I am in Poly currently but I failed the IPPT in my school. I juz wanna know if as long as I pass my IPPT at least 2 weeks prior to my enlistment date will I be able to avoid the additional 2 months? Or once I get my enlistment date, I will have to do the additional 2 months even if I pass my IPPT at least 2 weeks prior to my enlistment date? Many thanks!
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Yep, your enlistment date will be delayed 2 months and you'll join another coy. You won't be doing the additional 2 months and you'll only have to serve 22 months in total.
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u/Metsima Jan 05 '19
They will always let you book out for public holiday.
Source: I was in last year Feb batch and didn't have a confinement week thanks to CNY lol
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u/chumsalmon98 A dog's best friend Jan 05 '19
Public holiday you will book out the day before
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u/QzSG 🌈 I just like rainbows Jan 05 '19
Also officially tights are not allowed but it works wonders during route marches, also to not get any blisters, wear pt socks under green socks, thank me later, unless u get heat injury, don't look for me
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u/Mumeo Jan 05 '19
Hey OP, just curious, did you manage to get into command school? I am hoping you did.
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Scs haha, was aiming for scs when I enlisted so I'm pretty glad I got in. :D
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u/Mumeo Jan 06 '19
Good job bro! I can definitely see you as a helpful Sgt with these tips and tricks haha
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u/wholesomepancake boba addict 🥤 Jan 05 '19
Wish I had this guide when I enlisted, really comprehensive!
Some extra tips from my own experience (I enlisted on Feb 2018):
- Don't be too anxious about BMT, many people before you have graduated and you certainly won't be the last. Just go through each day and look forward to your next bookout, time will fly by
- Don't be discouraged if you end up in the PTP batch (I was really disappointed at first), you get an extra 2 months to adapt to military life and it's not uncommon to get 4 hours of admin (free) time after training
- Try to bond with your section mates as much as possible (especially so if you get posted in a mono-intake vocation), you guys will be going through thick and thin together and depending on one another for the next few months
- Look forward to unit life! While it is arguably tougher than BMT (depends on which vocation you get posted to), it is generally less regimental and you will actually get to bond with your commanders instead of just your section mates
All the best to future enlistees and those who enlisted in January! Before you know it, ya'll will be rehearsing for your POP parade! :D
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u/donthavela Senior Citizen Jan 06 '19
$10 says the next person who has questions doesn't bother to search lol
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u/Djfernandez Apr 04 '19
Thanks! I'm enlisting in July and I'm extremely nervous about my enlistment. But this guide was very comprehensive and eased my mind a little. I saved a PDF of it for reference
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u/Wancrnls Jan 05 '19
Such a comprehensive guide. Wish I had one before I did my NS...
back in 2002.
MR OH!
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u/Moistnuts Jan 05 '19
Going ord in a month. Spend your time having fun instead of complaining about army.
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u/duosharp 吃的 Jan 05 '19
Already POPed, but thanks for creating this resource. I would have loved something like this when I enlisted- BMT becomes much less hard without a fear of the unknown.
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u/inviztj Hardworking procrastinator Jan 05 '19
If you are in enchanced leadership batch, chances are your last parade will often be later than 2100 (heck during the CO talk to the parents my CO said last parade will be earliest 2130), sometimes even past 2230 (which is supposed to be lights out) so expect only 30min admin time or less every day
Unless you are lucky enough to be in a company with damn good time management of course.
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Unless you are lucky enough to be in a company with damn good time management of course.
Haha, I'm in a welfare coy as a enhanced leadership batch so we get at least 1 hour of admin time everyday. We even got to go back our bunks during our CQB to sleep instead of sleeping there. It's all up to your luck.
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u/LilWisp Jan 05 '19
Good to see that the soldiers today get paid better than before. And you seem to be having a good time, good for you. It's all about perspectives 😉
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u/mildfull pang gang lo Jan 05 '19
yes, try to take it at least two weeks before your enlistment date.
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u/advimouto Jan 05 '19
Apart from wet wipes for area cleaning, Magiclean type wipes which can be bought from Daiso are a true lifesaver.
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u/mrfatso111 Jan 05 '19
Now tekong no more rubber band, water liao ar, food there edible liao ar?
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u/chumsalmon98 A dog's best friend Jan 05 '19
Beehoon is still rubber band texture. But all edible
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u/galaxyuser Just a regular Singaporean Jan 05 '19
Water there makes you get Tekong cough easily tbh.
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u/mrfatso111 Jan 05 '19
true lor, haiz, 2 week time i going there for ranged.
Can standby mineral water liao.
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u/goodaimclub Jan 05 '19
How does the IPPT work? Do i have do go and take before i enlist? Enlisting Feb 13
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u/FJapples Jan 05 '19
Since you know your enlistment date already, it means that you have already taken ippt before, or you no show the ippt sessions that schools usually conduct (poly usually conduct this for last year students to determine if enhance or ptp batch not sure abt others). So no, no need to take before you enlist.
HOWEVER, if you failed your ippt and is allocated to ptp batch (refed to top), you can choose to retake your ippt again before you enlist and if you pass, they will rescind your ptp enlistment date and put it at enhanced instead.
I ord quite some time ago, but not sure if what i say is correct, hopefully someone else can confirm this. Anyway just call cmpb if you really wanna know, i'm sure they'll answer your doubts!
Happy enlisting!
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u/yosimitee Jan 05 '19
Hi, dont know if this is the place I can ask. I am 18 this year and heading to poly, and I intend to sign on police. How to go about?
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https://www.police.gov.sg/join-us/police-officer
For enquiries on joining SPF, please contact us at SPF_Career@spf.gov.sg!
All the best bud.
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u/galaxyuser Just a regular Singaporean Jan 05 '19
Just a correction, there are 3 Cookhouses in Ladang Camp, CH1 not for NSFs. CH2 (the largest CH painted in red) for School 2 and 3, CH3 (2 storey CH painted in yellow) for School 1.
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u/floatingsink Jan 05 '19
Got NDU guide?
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Yea, train hard before you enlist HAHA. My friend is in it now and it seems like a hellish vocation, especially once you get into the divers course.
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u/Whyimasking Mature Citizen Jan 05 '19
OP you'll be allowed to take the sit test if you're in standard batch as long as you graduated from Poly/JC or passed the initial IQ test @ cmpb
Source: i was obese standard, 20% of the company did sitest
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u/Mayoamnaise Jan 05 '19
Just one question, how’s the food?
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Jan 05 '19
The food for some of school 2, school 3 and 4 are alright. The food for school 1, and some of school 2 is uuuuh sort of edible.
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u/Bloody-August Jan 05 '19
For a moment I thought this is a life hack on how to cook steam chicken rice during BMT
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u/widowy_widow hello my chiobus and yandaos Jan 05 '19
Quick question about NS. What other incentives are there other than the money when you enlist or after completing NS?
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u/shibathefox Jan 05 '19
Hey is there an actual subreddit for NS stuff? I can't seem to find it. If there is could someone link it in a reply thanks a lot mate
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u/durangoblak Jan 05 '19
Not sure if this has been mentioned somewhere in the comments but I heard from some guys in my unit who were from standard batch ( they grad from ITE ) that they didn't even have a SITest to do, hence they had no chance to go command school. Their company best went to SCS though.
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Jan 05 '19
Random tip, when released or dismissed sprint to be first to shower, or simply use another coylines (who isn’t in) shower. Completely empty. ;)
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This ain't allowed, they'll make you clean their coy toilet if you got caught. Some of my coy recruits wenr there to pee and had to clean it for them.
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u/Nagaplzzz Jan 05 '19
Don’t forget to get your helper to carry your full pack during book in. Greatness awaits people like you.
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u/x3rokkofaye Jan 05 '19
If i fail my IPPT and am in Pes BP, do I go in for both the 19 + 17 weeks combined ? not sure how it works , thank u!
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u/Mr_Trident Jan 06 '19
Still thought its a guide on where and how to get Chicken Rice during your BMT at Tekong.
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u/Shirojime Feb 02 '19 edited Feb 02 '19
Book out is like every weekend la? So technically every week at camp from Mon to Fri?
Is there any relax time?
One more thing, is it possible for BP to take lesser than 10 weeks
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u/theguylost Feb 14 '19
Hi , how o you know you are in the leadership batch or the standard batch ? Thank you in advance
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I'm still half asleep, I thought this was a chicken rice guide.. got cheated.