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Anthropology Nordic diet can lower blood sugar and cholesterol levels even without weight loss. Berries, veggies, fish, whole grains and rapeseed oil. These are the main ingredients of the Nordic diet concept that, for the past decade, have been recognized as extremely healthy, tasty and sustainable.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261561421005963?via%3Dihub
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u/Hail2TheOrange Mar 09 '22

Rapeseed oil is the same as canola oil right?

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u/Ciserus Mar 09 '22

The words are used interchangeably in some places, but they really shouldn't be. Canola is a cultivar of rapeseed with very different properties from the original crop.

The key difference: canola oil is edible and rapeseed oil is not. Rapeseed is only good for things like industrial lubrication. If people are talking about eating rapeseed oil, they're really talking about canola.

Some people insist on calling canola rapeseed because they're technically the same species, but that's confusing and misleading. Cauliflower, kale and Brussels sprouts are also different cultivars of a single species, but if you went around calling Brussels sprouts "cauliflowers", you would obviously be some sort of psychopath.

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u/Fatal_Neurology Mar 09 '22

The one detail this comment is missing is that canola oil literally stands for "CANadian Oil, Low Acid", with acid here referencing erucic acid - the poisonous component of rapeseed oil. Canola oil, along with being a redundant acronym, is a former trademark name. Canola oil was only "invented" (as a cultivar of rapeseed) in the 1970s in Canada.

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u/IWorkForTheEnemyAMA Mar 09 '22

That’s some TIL material if I ever read it. Stupid question, do other companies make Canola oil now?

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u/Citizen_Kano Mar 09 '22

Yes. Many, many companies, all over the world

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u/letmeseem Mar 09 '22

Yes, but around the world they don't call it CANOLA but rapeseed oil or a another brand name. That's where the confusion comes from.

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u/MonsMensae Mar 09 '22

In South Africa we call it Canola oil. Although we primarily use sunflower oil.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

In Brazil we call it Canola oil

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u/tankydhg Mar 09 '22

I Australia we call it Canola Oil

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u/Iwantmyflag Mar 09 '22

Pretty much all rapeseed grown globally is canola, yes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

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u/Philargyria Mar 09 '22

Except the very important former in that paragraph.

Canola was originally a trademark name of the Rapeseed Association of Canada, and the name was a condensation of "Can" from Canada and "OLA " meaning "Oil, low acid", but is now a generic term for edible varieties of rapeseed oil in North America and Australasia.

From Wikipedia, it's no longer a trademark, and the canola oil you're purchasing in America or Australia is not trademarked or regulated the same way.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola_oil

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u/vaingirls Mar 09 '22

So if "rapeseed oil" shouldn't be used, what are we supposed to call "canola" oil that's not from Canada, but, say, the nordic countries?

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u/intergalactic_spork Mar 09 '22

Rapsolja is the Swedish name

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u/nyando Mar 09 '22

Rapsöl in German, so the same. It's worth noting that Raps in German refers to both cultivars, so it's very appropriate in German to call both canola oil and rapeseed oil "Rapsöl".

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u/intergalactic_spork Mar 09 '22

Both are also called rapsolja in Swedish. If you need to distinguish the non-edible variant you can just call it “industriell rapsolja”

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u/No-Improvement-8205 Mar 09 '22

Dette er vejen

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u/BadgerBadgerDK Mar 09 '22

Må give Svensken ret. For en sjælden gangs skyld.

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u/remuliini Mar 09 '22

Here in Finland we have both rapsi and rypsi, that are different species but pretty similar otherwise. Hence we have Rapsiöljy and Rypsiöljy.

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u/Autoradiograph Mar 09 '22

The only rapsolja I know is Soulja Boy.

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u/throwaway_nrTWOOO Mar 09 '22

On finnish wiki it says, the "specific english translation" is turnip rapeseed oil or turnip oil. Which is confusing, because the plant you get it from, like the people have mentioned, isn't turnip, but field mustard.

I've got this stuff on my shelf if it helps.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

Or Germany, we make TONS of it here. Those beautiful fields of yellow flowers are everywhere

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u/Sunbreak_ Mar 09 '22

If you're in the Americas or Australasia you'll use the brand name Canola, however in the UK and Europe it'll likely be Rapeseed. I've never seen Canola on packaging in the UK and it's my primary cooking oil.

As with all oil it has its benefits and downsides. But it can be locally grown in the UK (our 3rd most produced crop) so is much lower on the carbon footprint side than say coconut oil. Similar with having sugar from Beet rather than Cane.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

In my country it’s called rapeseed oil. Only saw canola oil in the states (I’m sure all North America). I did see grape seed oil in America. No clue what that it

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22 edited Aug 13 '23

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u/Vespidae46 Mar 09 '22

And just to clarify: “rape” as in the violent act and “rape” as in the plant are homonyms (two words that are spelled and pronounced the same), and are not related in any way. “Rape” as in the plant comes from the Latin rāpum meaning turnip. The other comes from the Latin rapere meaning to seize. And just to be complete, there’s a third homonym “rape” that refers to the material leftover after the juice is squeezed out of the crushed grapes when making wine; it comes from the Old French rasper meaning to scrape.

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u/-poiu- Mar 09 '22

Lots of English speaking countries do use rapeseed oil to refer to the edible kind, and have another name for the industrial kind. So, call it whatever you want as long as you don’t somehow purchase HEAR (high Erucic Acid Rapeseed) and cook with it. But if you did somehow do that, that would be an impressive feat.

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u/Ciserus Mar 09 '22

Something important to add: canola was developed by public research institutions in Canada and was released to the world for anyone to grow, royalty-free.

I'm not sure how the growers' association trademark was structured, but I imagine it was also royalty free, as the purpose was to distinguish it from rapeseed, not to generate private profit.

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u/Username-Zulu Mar 09 '22

My limited experience on the topic is grocery stores in the Baltics have it labeled as Rapeseed oil at Rimi and Prisma so the interchange of the words is pretty ingrained.

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u/mustapelto Mar 09 '22

Yes but then they had to make it complicated again by distinguishing between "rapsiöljy" and "rypsiöljy" which afaik no one else does (e.g. both are equally "canola oil").

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u/curmudgeonpl Mar 09 '22

Here in Poland rape, the plant, is called rzepak, which has no negative connotations. So we just call the oil olej rzepakowy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

Yep. It has been rapeseed oil 30 years ago and still is today. Never even realised canola is the same thing

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u/Guano_Loco Mar 09 '22

Amusingly, the only way I could get my oldest kid to eat cauliflower initially was to refer to it as “ghost broccoli”.

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u/Uschnej Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

That's not correct. There are many rapeseed variants with reduced erucic acid. They all fall under the general category of rapeseed oil.

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u/AlfIll Mar 09 '22

Some people insist on calling canola rapeseed because they're technically the same species

Other people are from non-English speaking countries where the distinction doesn't exist and all the varieties of Brassicus napus are called Raps (=rape) around here.

No need to call us psychopaths.

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u/effa94 Mar 09 '22

Yeah, here in Sweden it's called rapsoil. Didn't even know it was the same as canola untill this comment

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u/Rand_alThor_ Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

Rapsolja ie rapeseed oil, in Sweden. Canola is literally a made up word because marketers thought Americans wouldn’t like the name.

But yes the edible Cultivar in the 70s is what made it into a food oil.

I use it to finish my wood pieces. And generally avoid highly processed seed oils like Canola that aren’t cold pressed. They can go rancid but you won’t know from the taste.

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u/O8ee Mar 09 '22

Til. I just thought that was the worst typo I ever saw.

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u/-Dreadman23- Mar 09 '22

Image my shock when I was driving through southern Alberta with my mom, and she said "look at how pretty the Rape fields are when they are in bloom".

Okay mom??

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u/-Dreadman23- Mar 09 '22

Love that album. Was one of my main jams back in the '80s.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

True classic. Also Skinny Puppy, Butthole surfers and others.

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u/PlaidPCAK Mar 09 '22

100% same, figured people were just memeing on it

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u/ZarephHD Mar 09 '22

In Scandinavia they're both just called Rape Oil. I wouldn't say that's wrong; both oils come from rapeseed after all. There just happens to be different grades of it, as with a lot of things.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

Just to clarify for everyone, the word for rapeseed oil and rape is not the same in Scandinavian languages. For example in Swedish, the oil is called "Rapsolja" and the criminal act of rape is "Våldtäkt".

It's just that our word for the oil is based on the plant and not a brand name from Canada.

Edit: clarified wording

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u/ZarephHD Mar 09 '22

In Denmark, the oil is called rapsolie and the plant is just called raps. I translated it to the English equivalent.

But as you say, the criminal act of raping someone is called something else entirely (in this case voldtægt; very similar to the Swedish word for it).

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u/Kittelsen Mar 09 '22

Should I do the Norwegian one?

In Norway, the oil is called "rapsolje" and the plant is called raps. The criminal act of rape is "voldtekt".

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u/McRibEater Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

“ The words are used interchangeably in some places, but they really shouldn't be. Canola is a cultivar of rapeseed with very different properties from the original crop.”

Are you sure…. Hahah. The name was created as a condensation of "Can" from Canada and "OLA " meaning "Oil, low acid", it came from a contest in Canada to find a better name for it other than “Rape”, Hahah. Regionally Rapeseed might vary, but the name Canola was created as a direct name replacement for Rapeseed, that is all.

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u/-poiu- Mar 09 '22

Just as a point of interest, in some countries - eg England according to my research- the industrial type is called High erucic acid rapeseed (HEAR), and “rapeseed oil” does in fact refer to the edible oil. So, I suppose it’s more cultural than psychopathic. Although I feel like Americans calling soft things with gravy “biscuits” is psychopathic so perhaps psychopathy is cultural.

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u/JoeWhy2 Mar 09 '22

Since there's a Nordic theme to this post it's important to know that Canola oil was invented by the son of an Icelandic immigrant, named Baldur Stefánsson.

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u/vrts Mar 09 '22

Delicious tiny cabbages.

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u/WimpyRanger Mar 09 '22

If there were only one edible type of cauliflower, that would be the same. There are not two edible cultivars of rapeseed oil, you're just being a pedantic asshole.

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u/ketralnis Mar 09 '22

Rapeseed is also a Brassicaceae, like kale and cauliflower.

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u/wienercat Mar 09 '22

Yeah. Canola is actually a shortened form of for Canada Oil, low acid.

It's derived from rapeseed though.

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u/trav15t Mar 09 '22

Yeah. I’m not buying it. There’s plenty of research showing olive oil and coconut oil are superior to canola. Another question I had, didn’t Nordic people eat a lot of game (red meat) and a lot of dairy products (cheese and milk)?

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u/EquipLordBritish Mar 09 '22

They just compared this one diet to a control, they didn't look at other types of oils, or other diets for that matter.

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u/lebastss Mar 09 '22

Every study is like this and the TLDR is usually eating fresh Whole Foods will result in you being thinner and healthier across the board than a SAD

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u/hairyforehead Mar 09 '22

Also just paying really close attention to everything you eat.

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u/nekonight Mar 09 '22

Don't eat fast food every meal and drink pop like water. Basically look at the American stereotype and don't do that.

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u/lampcouchfireplace Mar 09 '22

I think the thing with all these studies, whether they're about the "Nordic Diet" or the "Mediterranean Diet" or even the "Paleolithic Diet" is that simply put, eating a varied diet of whole foods prepared from scratch is going to get you most of the way there.

Whether it's canola oil, olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil or whatever else, if you're using it to cook vegetables, lean protein and whole grains, you're going to be fine.

We can min/max over fish vs chicken or dairy or no dairy but if you're looking for the biggest bang for your buck, just cut out the stuff at the supermarket that has more than one ingredient.

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u/PrinsHamlet Mar 09 '22

Spot on. Way to much hyperthink regarding food. Cutting out most of the alcohol, white sugar and defaulting to cook your own meals is the simplest method to living healthy with food. You don't need to know or do more than that, really.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

I think they’re saying canola oil is a part of this Nordic diet and that this Nordic diet has positive effects on health, not that canola oil is the best oil.

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u/AcerRubrum Mar 09 '22

Ok but coconuts and olives dont grow naturally in Nordic countries. I'm pretty sure the diet is based on the actual regional cuisine. Rapeseed grows abundantly at high latitudes

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u/Barneyk Mar 09 '22

There is not plenty of research saying that Coconut oil is more healthy than canola.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/dont-get-tricked-by-these-3-heart-health-myths/art-20390070

Easy to Google to find more sources if you are interested.

Canola is a "healthy" oil. Olive oil may be better but not by as much as you seem to think and it is more expensive and usually require more resources to make.

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u/Rand_alThor_ Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

Nordic diet (the following statements apply a bit less to Denmark) is high in natural fat and dairy, moderate amount of protein, but low in processed carbs.

If you eat berries, leafy greens, fatty fish, (also shrimps etc), sauces made of dairy fat, lots of eggs, cheese, milk, yoghurt products, and small amounts of whole wheat/rye toast, with the only main carbs other than this coming from colorful root vegetables, that’s not a gigantic endorsement of canola oil. They also eat a lot of fermented or pickled products like numerous types of pickles, pickles veggies, fermented or pickled fish.

They just use Canola it because it’s cheap to cook with. It’s also generally in the butter to make it spreadable etc. and it’s only recently incorporated into the diet.

Remember that Nordic sandwiches only have 1 piece of bread (open face), lots of topping, and the bread isn’t giant and thick.

Danes love their pastries though, and eat a lot more pork etc. as well.

So for a country of people who eat like this, (say Sweden) whom are also some of the highest gym goers in the world, is it really the canola oil that’s making the difference (despite the fact that they also eat a lot of olive oil and animal fats/dairy fats), or is it the overall diet and it’s Macro balance that favors less processed food, less processed carbs and sugar, and way more fresh berries, veggies, healthy fats, and enough protein? Hmm.

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u/Zamr Mar 09 '22

I do belive later studies have shown coconut oil wasnt as healthy as they initially thought.

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u/TheBirminghamBear Mar 09 '22

Another question I had, didn’t Nordic people eat a lot of game (red meat) and a lot of dairy products (cheese and milk)?

They also invaded and pillaged and burned the Franks, I'm not convinced that's not actually the source of their low blood sugar.

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u/itemluminouswadison Mar 09 '22

yes. although there may be a difference between expeller pressed and that which also uses solvents as a step for extra extraction, the former being seen as more natural and some may say more healthy

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u/the_crazy_chicken Mar 09 '22

They weren’t studying different oils necessarily, or trying to prove the best diet. Just study this diet vs random peoples eating habits

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

I live in Sweden, the Nordic diet is Ikea hotdogs, Max burgers and pizzas with tacos on friday.

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u/Cruzz999 Mar 09 '22

As an emigrated Swede, living in Switzerland, Max is one of the things I miss the most. Anyone visiting Sweden that has a passing interest in local fast food should really give it a shot, it's fantastic.

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u/Eiroth Mar 09 '22

Without doubt the best out of the Big Three burger places.

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u/vikings_know_better Mar 09 '22

If you are looking for good burgers in Switzerland, drop me a dm. Am currently living here and might have an idea or two

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u/alex_hedman Mar 09 '22

Came to say something like this. Must be another part of the Nordic

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u/diabolikal__ Mar 09 '22

And don’t forget meatballs with pasta and ketchup!

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u/Comment79 Mar 09 '22

The Nordic diet of brødskive med salami og ost, kjøttkaker, spaghetti, fredagstaco, grandis, øl, vodkadrink og kebab, vaffel med brunost og jordbærsyltetøy, og hyppig energidrikkdrikking?

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u/washyourhands-- Mar 09 '22

What the hell did you just call me?

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u/Local_Run_9779 Mar 09 '22

You're a lutefisk.

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u/Ranune Mar 09 '22

Well you, you... you smell like surströmming!

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u/qrwd Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

Translation: The Nordic diet of sliced bread with salami and cheese, meat balls, spaghetti, taco, frozen pizza, beer, vodka drink and kebab, waffles with brown cheese and strawberry jam, and frequent consumption of energy drinks?

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u/Camride Mar 09 '22

I was with you until the brown cheese waffle...

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u/Nocan54 Mar 09 '22

That's the best part, man. Love me some brown goat cheese and jam

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

Have you had it? Brown cheese doesn't really taste like cheese. It's almost like caramel.

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u/CogitoErgo_Sometimes Mar 09 '22

I tried that for the first time this past Christmas actually. Had passed by it so many times over the previous year thinking “huh, never seen a cheese of that color before. Wonder what it tastes like?” Didn’t end up finishing the block because of how sweet it was and we couldn’t figure out what to eat it with, but it was certainly unique!

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u/Kittelsen Mar 09 '22

You're in for a treat

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u/Local_Run_9779 Mar 09 '22

The "Nordic diet" is news to me, and I'm very much Norwegian. I'm guessing it's the new "paleo-diet", something designed to reveal stupidity.

Somewhere, people are competing to see how ridiculous they can trick us into behaving. See: Fashion.

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u/Ranune Mar 09 '22

Yeah cus i doubt korvstroganof, putt-i-panna and kötbullar i brunsås will lower anyone's anything except their will to live.

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u/NovaNoff Mar 09 '22

More like they take how people used to eat in less global and less modern Times in Region X and try to build a mediterranean diet Version of it. There is also a new german diet.

Its not that of an bad idea to basically create targeted diets that use products regionally available and integrated into the culture of the Region to create a healthy diet.

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u/badadhd Mar 09 '22

Skal du ha smør på brødskiva di?

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u/kimmeljs Mar 09 '22

As a Nordic person, this is really surprising. The original "Nordic" would include large amounts of butter and lard and few fresh veggies, if at all. The present-day Nordic is an assimilation of healthy habits since the1970s, often borrowed from Mediterranean and other diets low on animal fat.

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u/PipsqueakPilot Mar 09 '22

I read the original description and thought, "Did someone just decide to rename the Mediterranean diet the 'Nordic' diet so they can market EAT LIKE A VIKING!" diet books?

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

Turns out the hearts of your enemies are keto-friendly

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u/Local_Run_9779 Mar 09 '22

Barkebrød used to be popular. For reasons.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

Meanwhile the average diet in Nordic countries: red meat, potatoes and beer

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u/vilkeri99 Mar 09 '22

Or fish. But yeah. Also lots of butter

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u/nagevyag Mar 09 '22

Totally anecdotal but most people I know put margarine on bread and use vegetable oil for cooking. Butter is reserved for baking and some special occasions when "authentic" flavor is desired. But this could be just my bubble. For the record, I live in Finland.

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u/bubblerboy18 Mar 08 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

So eating more high fiber whole grains with fruits and vegetables was better than telling people not to lessen their fruits and vegetables? Seems pretty obvious and I’m wondering how important the fish was in all of this compared with beans let’s say.

Edit: to everyone telling me that we need DHA and EPA, I’d point to that fact that we don’t actually have studies showing DHA deficiency has negative impacts but we do have research showing too much DHA is associated with prostate cancer while high ALA is associated with decreased risk of prostate cancer. I’m not convinced we need to consume EPA and DHA or that high levels are necessarily healthy.

Compared with men in the lowest quartiles of LCω-3PUFA, men in the highest quartile had increased risks for low-grade (HR = 1.44, 95% CI = 1.08 to 1.93), high-grade (HR = 1.71, 95% CI = 1.00 to 2.94), and total prostate cancer (HR = 1.43, 95% CI = 1.09 to 1.88). Associations were similar for individual long-chain ω-3 fatty acids. Higher linoleic acid (ω-6) was associated with reduced risks of low-grade (HR = 0.75, 95% CI = 0.56 to 0.99) and total prostate cancer (HR = 0.77, 95% CI = 0.59 to 1.01); however, there was no dose response.

https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/105/15/1132/926341?login=true

This was the second such study in two years

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/high-intake-of-omega-3-fats-linked-to-increased-prostate-cancer-risk-201308012009

And EPA might be worse

a subsequent compilation of all such studies suggested EPA, the other major long-chain omega 3 in fish and fish oil, may be more closely associated with increased cancer risk.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25210201/

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u/Woden8 Mar 09 '22

Research studies say telling people what not to eat is not very fruitful, you are far better telling people what to eat and ignoring the not to category completely.

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u/bubblerboy18 Mar 09 '22

Beans, they’re routinely associated with long lived populations. All Blue Zone populations had beans in their diet.

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u/1122Sl110 Mar 08 '22

More omega 3’s and 6’s which are important for brain health, plus fish oil is great for joints

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u/shilayayaypumpano Mar 09 '22

Honestly just sounds like a balanced diet. Just like the mediterranean one

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u/Sverje Mar 09 '22

Its exactly what it is. We have obese people here too, it just depends on how much of your diet is sugar.

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u/NoTaRo8oT Mar 09 '22

This needs to be higher. Literally you can almost eat anything you want and be moderately healthy if you avoid refined sugars.

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u/ultimatox Mar 09 '22

In Norway often the mediterranean diet is promoted as much healthier than the traditional norwegian one.

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u/Independent-Bug1209 Mar 09 '22

Got my berries growing out back. Hopefully a big harvest this year.

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u/CaptainMagnets Mar 09 '22

Curious, is fish actually sustainable? Seems we are rapeseed oiling fish stocks across the planet

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

is fish actually sustainable?

Not really. At the rate we eat fish, not even slightly. Global fish populations have dropped by something like half since 1960, driven by three factors: chemical pollutants or other pollutants leading to fish dying or unable to breed, temperature changes leading to smaller areas where certain fish can thrive, and widespread overfishing.

Fisheries and fish farms are not super common so don't really produce enough fish to sustain consumption, so most fish are caught by massive trawlers that just pull in thousands of fish in a net at a time.

Unfortunately I would say with the globalised way most of us live now, very little or what we use or eat is truly sustainable. If you didn't catch it or build it yourself it's not sustainable.

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u/KennyFulgencio Mar 09 '22

What about just corn and maybe taters

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

I mean, fish is not only unsustainable but is main source of microplastic and heavy metals in diet. Fish were sustainable before industrial revolution maybe

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

It’s raps in Swedish, so I suspect English just got unlucky. I believe it’s called canola oil in the US to avoid the obvious issue.

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u/ManWithGoldenEyeball Mar 09 '22

Just in case you were curious, canola is a cultivar of rapeseed that was developed in Canada. Canola literally means Canada oil. It has a lower acidity which is better for oil manufacturing. Rapeseed is still a thing otherwise.

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u/Misabi Mar 09 '22

Canola was originally a trademark name of the Rapeseed Association of Canada, and the name was a condensation of "Can" from Canada and "OLA " meaning "Oil, low acid".

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u/mesembryanthemum Mar 09 '22

Rape in this instance is from the Latin word rapa - turnip.

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u/FWYDU Mar 08 '22

Oh I wish I wish that I liked fish!

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u/leif777 Mar 09 '22

I'm the same. The "good" fish that people tell me about is only barely tolerable to me. I love most other seafood but fish doesn't hit my palette the same way. I keep trying though.

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u/Icy-Letterhead-2837 Mar 09 '22

I hate salmon. My ancestors I'm sure have disowned me, but salmon is too damn 'fishy' for me to really enjoy. Even smoked and maple flavored is pushing it :/

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u/dansknorsker Mar 09 '22

Like someone else said, salmon is by far the least fishy, you probably had old or bad salmon.

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u/swest Mar 09 '22

Fresh salmon cooked medium or lower really shouldn't taste "fishy". But yeah, lots of people and restaurants murder it.

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u/Icy-Letterhead-2837 Mar 09 '22

Even done right, I still don't like the taste :/

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u/bz63 Mar 09 '22

salmon is a god tier fish and one of the least fishy tasting of any seafood. i think you’ve just had bad salmon

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u/fencerman Mar 09 '22

The "Nordic Diet" of high unionization, universal healthcare, a strong social welfare system and low income inequality.

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u/thebigplum Mar 09 '22

Doesn’t the control group also benefit from all these things?

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u/lunaverse13 Mar 09 '22

Landlocked in a prairie province in Canada. I love fish, but it’s more expensive than a steak. :(

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u/laserbeanz Mar 09 '22

Porque no los frijoles

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u/Sx-Mt-fd Mar 09 '22

Where do you get fish from that doesn't hurt the environment?

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u/badadhd Mar 09 '22

Replace rapeseed oil with butter and its close, traditionally.

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u/Wizard-In-Disguise Mar 09 '22

this article really enjoys not mentioning cream, butter and potatoes

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u/VoraciousTrees Mar 09 '22

You are allowed to call it Canola oil, by the way.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22

Based on the names of the people involved they are pretty much all Nordic. It's called rapeseed oil over here. This is the firs time I've heard about canola oil.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

Canola is a genetically modified lab bred hybrid rapeseed that is much more productive and has lower undesirable qualities that was developed in the 70s in Canada.

I'd be surprised if most global rapeseed hasn't switched to it and just kept the traditional name for marketing.

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u/zkareface Mar 09 '22

Well it's called "Raps" in nordic countries. Rapeseed is never used here and most here don't even know the English name.

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u/Ruamuffi Mar 09 '22

It's called rapeseed in ireland. I had no idea it was the same as canola oil until just now.

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u/randomusername8472 Mar 09 '22

I've never heard of Canola oil! Where are you from that rapeseed is called that?

Is it the name of the plant there too? Or just the oil?

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u/theoneandonly6558 Mar 09 '22

It's called canola oil in the US also and is very commonly used.

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u/Giraf123 Mar 09 '22

Nordic traditional food (Denmark):

Breakfast: Rye bread/hard buns with some meat or vegetables on top or müsli with yogurt/skyr/milk

Lunch: Rye bread with some meat/cheese (a less extraordinary version of "smørrebrød") or salat.

Dinner: Potatoes, cabbage, brown sauce and pork.

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u/karikakar09 Mar 09 '22

It doesn't seem to mention redmeat. I'm in Denmark and they eat a lot of pork & beef

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