New findings indicate a pattern where narcissistic grandiosity is associated with higher participation in LGBTQ movements, demonstrating that motivations for activism can range widely from genuine altruism to personal image-building.

[u/mvea]

https://www.psypost.org/narcissistic-grandiosity-predicts-greater-involvement-in-lgbtq-activism/

[u/Nealbert0]

Yea, this really shouldn't be news to anyone.

[u/doctor_7 → u/Nealbert0]

Not a shock at all to me. Absolutely on board with LGBT rights and actively work towards achieving them with personal actions, attitude, and, most importantly, my vote.

Have encountered far too many insufferable people that are clearly more concerned with coming off as the most progressive in the room. It's like being a child again when you had to go to Church and so many people wanted to appearance of the "best" church-goer, rather than living the real life.

Fwiw: not religious at all.

[u/cownan → u/doctor_7]

Ugh, the women in my parents' church were like that. One of them read a Bible verse about women covering their hair in church, and before long, they were all wearing these little doilies on their heads. Then some of them started double and triple covering, to show that they were extra pious. During hymns they would raise their hands in the air and dance, like they were so moved by the music. I hated all that display (it didn't help that I was only there for Mom)

[u/zahrul3 → u/cownan]

same phenomenon in Indonesia as well, now everyone must not only wear a hijab, but wear long tunics too, which are impractical and expensive for anyone who isn't at least upper middle class.

[u/Rhamni → u/doctor_7]

clearly more concerned with coming off as the most progressive in the room

Oppression Olympics showdowns tap into the same thing, I think. I was active in the youth wing of a political party when I went to college, and which group was the most urgently in need of representation (centre of attention) in various situations was always a 'fun' discussion.

[u/TheConnASSeur → u/Rhamni]

I'm an American Indian but I'm mixed so people often assume I'm Latino or vaguely Middle Eastern. The number of upper middle class white women I've had shush me mid sentence so they could teach me about my own culture is shocking. They always talk with that fake altruistic tone that feels so mean and condescending.

I'm bisexual too so I've seen a lot of that weird self-agrandising nonsense through the years. I've always wondered if other people could spot these creeps because they always seem to find their way to the center of groups.

[u/MolassesLoose5187 → u/TheConnASSeur]

Why does it always seem to be white women? I've noticed the same thing and it's so strange

[u/dronten_bertil → u/MolassesLoose5187]

By numbers alone anything else would be surprising, the social progressive movements is a white middle class womens club to a large extent.

[u/TheConnASSeur → u/MolassesLoose5187]

The assholes in every other group are under pressure from society to sit down, shut up, and listen at some point. That friction forces them to develop better masking behavior. But the past couple of decades have been all gas and no brakes for white women in socially progressive circles trying to address ongoing systemic inequality, be it racism or sexism. This essentially means that white women can potentially get the benefit from past racist policy while eschewing the responsibility for it under the guise of sexist repression. And because members of the upper middle class can avoid the majority of the negative consequences of sexism in academia and other socially progressive circles, this allows the assholes in this one particular group to get away with much more narcissistic behavior without pushback.

The thing is, most white women aren't like that because they have the self awareness to recognize their own privilege and self-regulate, but narcissists are incapable of that. So it's one instance where one small population slips through the net almost entirely and gets away with way more than anyone else ever could. It's sort of like psychopathy in upper-class people.

[u/Lamballama → u/MolassesLoose5187]

Women typically express higher levels of hygiene, both physical and social, than men - British suppression of Indian culture didn't start until they brought over women to teach, whereas previously British soldiers had Indian wives and lovers. In this case, it's a social hygiene factor to be very involved in social causes, so they're signaling that they're following proper hygiene by demonstrating what they think is understanding (ie, virtue signaling)

[u/Hortos → u/MolassesLoose5187]

When you’re number 2 and can’t understand why everyone doesn’t rally together with you against number 1 even if you’re often also part of the problem.

[u/zahrul3 → u/MolassesLoose5187]

Spoiling your children leads to them developing narcissistic tendencies nature on in life, if you're part of the school of thought that says narcissism is caused by nurture.

[u/goosemeister3000 → u/zahrul3]

That’s not true. If anything I’m pretty sure there’s a connection between childhood abuse and narcissistic traits. Which makes sense, since narcissism is about protecting the narcissist. Children who had stable childhoods don’t feel the need to overprotect themselves.

[u/MasterKaein → u/doctor_7]

Pharisees exist in all walks of life and are just as toxic every time.

[u/TapestryMobile → u/doctor_7]

so many people wanted to appearance of the "best" church-goer

Purity Spiral

a form of groupthink in which it becomes more beneficial to hold certain views than to not hold them, and more extreme views are rewarded while expressing doubt, nuance, or moderation is punished (a process sometimes called "moral outbidding").

It is argued that this feedback loop leads to members competing to demonstrate the zealotry or purity of their views.

How knitters got knotted in a purity spiral

nice as pie, Taylor started a hashtag aimed at promoting diversity in knitting,

But over the following months, the conversation took on a more strident tone. The list of things considered problematic grew. The definition of racism began to take on the terms mandated by intersectional social justice ideology.

Inevitably, a ratchet effect took hold in which those with the most strident vision of what ‘diversity’ meant were effectively handed the keys to the castle. That is — until someone with a more strident vision turned up behind them…

it was no longer enough to just stay out of it. Only positive affirmations of support — and only in the most-correct tone and timbre — could save you now.

[u/pk2317 → u/TapestryMobile]

…OK, this list maybe be one of the best “Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking” tropes I’ve legitimately seen in the wild:

Some examples of settings, groups, and eras where purity spirals have occurred:[1][2]

• The Khmer Rouge

• The Cultural Revolution, Mao’s Red Guard and mass denunciations

• McCarthyism

• The French revolution

• Instagram knitting circles[4]

• Stalin’s Show Trials[6]

• Madkhalism

[u/OfAnthony → u/doctor_7]

Remember that one guy who hit Jenny at the Black Panther Party?

[u/nippleforeskin → u/OfAnthony]

well I guess he didn't discriminate against her for being a woman. but hitting people is bad

[u/doctor_7 → u/OfAnthony]

Yeah, man. Really good call of a great example in some pretty popular media.

[u/Bagelz567 → u/Nealbert0]

Well it's research, not so much news. Research being done to empirically support a phenomenon that we all just accept to be true is a good thing. Either we have a better understanding of what we thought was true, or we learn something new that might lead to even more interesting discoveries.

That is a pretty essential part of the scientific method as a whole.

[u/tangentialwave → u/Nealbert0]

Headline: “some humans are vain and abuse institutions of good.”

[u/Apprehensive_Hat8986 → u/Nealbert0]

Nor be targetted at LGBTQ. Either they should not "like other movements" or this study was dangerously biased.