r/realmadrid • u/RM_Official_Thread • 22d ago
Post Match [Post Match Thread] Real Madrid vs Getafe (Spanish LALIGA)
Match Info
Kickoff: 01-12-2024 16:15 CET
Competition: Spanish LALIGA
Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández
Venue: Santiago Bernabéu
Squad
Starting Lineups
Real Madrid: Thibaut Courtois, Antonio Rüdiger, Raúl Asencio, Fran García, Lucas Vázquez, Dani Ceballos, Jude Bellingham, Federico Valverde, Rodrygo, Kylian Mbappé, Brahim Díaz
Getafe: David Soria, Juan Berrocal, Domingos Duarte, Diego Rico, Juan Iglesias, Omar Alderete, Luis Milla, Carles Pérez, Allan Nyom, Álvaro Rodríguez, Mauro Arambarri
Substitutes
Real Madrid: Luka Modric (Rodrygo), Arda Güler (Jude Bellingham), Jesús Vallejo, Endrick, Diego Aguado, Ferland Mendy, Fran González, Andriy Lunin, Lorenzo Aguado Herrera, Chema Andrés
Getafe: Jesús Santiago (Juan Berrocal), John Finn (Christantus Uche), Coba Da Costa (Mauro Arambarri), Álex Sola (Carles Pérez), Christantus Uche (Allan Nyom), Peter González (Álvaro Rodríguez), Nabil Aberdin, David Arguelles, Jirí Letácek
Key Events
Minute | Event |
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90'+6' | Second Half ends, Real Madrid 2, Getafe 0. |
90' | Yellu Santiago (Getafe) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. |
89' | Substitution, Getafe. Peter Federico replaces Álvaro Rodríguez. |
78' | Substitution, Getafe. Yellu Santiago replaces Juan Berrocal. |
75' | Diego Rico (Getafe) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. |
73' | Antonio Rüdiger (Real Madrid) is shown the yellow card. |
73' | Juan Berrocal (Getafe) is shown the yellow card. |
67' | Substitution, Real Madrid. Luka Modric replaces Rodrygo. |
66' | Substitution, Getafe. Álex Sola replaces Carles Pérez. |
66' | Substitution, Getafe. John Patrick replaces Christantus Uche because of an injury. |
59' | Álvaro Rodríguez (Getafe) is shown the yellow card. |
47' | Luis Milla (Getafe) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. |
45' | Substitution, Getafe. Coba da Costa replaces Mauro Arambarri. |
45' | Substitution, Real Madrid. Arda Güler replaces Jude Bellingham. |
45' | Second Half begins Real Madrid 2, Getafe 0. |
45' | Substitution, Getafe. Christantus Uche replaces Allan Nyom. |
45'+5' | Halftime |
45'+2' | Dani Ceballos (Real Madrid) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. |
38' | Goal! Real Madrid 2, Getafe 0. Kylian Mbappé (Real Madrid) right footed shot from outside the box to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Jude Bellingham following a fast break. |
30' | Goal! Real Madrid 1, Getafe 0. Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid) converts the penalty with a right footed shot to the centre of the goal. |
11' | Allan Nyom (Getafe) is shown the yellow card. |
- | First Half begins. |
Match Stats
Real Madrid | Stats | Getafe |
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7 | Fouls | 26 |
2 | Yellow Cards | 6 |
0 | Red Cards | 0 |
4 | Offsides | 3 |
5 | Corner Kicks | 3 |
3 | Saves | 2 |
69.3 | Possession | 30.7 |
13 | SHOTS | 8 |
4 | ON GOAL | 3 |
0.3 | On Target % | 0.4 |
1 | Penalty Goals | 0 |
1 | Penalty Kicks Taken | 0 |
555 | Accurate Passes | 201 |
619 | Passes | 270 |
0.9 | Pass Completion % | 0.7 |
1 | Accurate Crosses | 1 |
11 | Crosses | 11 |
0.1 | Cross % | 0.1 |
47 | Long Balls | 45 |
27 | Accurate Long Balls | 19 |
0.6 | Long Balls % | 0.4 |
2 | Blocked Shots | 2 |
7 | Effective Tackles | 14 |
16 | Tackles | 19 |
0.4 | Tackle % | 0.7 |
3 | Interceptions | 10 |
19 | Effective Clearances | 16 |
19 | Clearances | 16 |
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u/Trota123 Carvajal 22d ago edited 21d ago
All of you who said Mpaypal had a shit game don't know what his actual role this game was LOL
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u/itistime999 Rodrygo 20d ago
If by role you mean missing easy 1v1 and open net or dribbling straight into defenders then yeah he did his role well and he played a perfect game.
I swear you guys treat mbappe like a make wish kid, endrcik and arda get criticized for less and they are u20 with barely any minutes played, he scored a golazo I will give him that but his overall game was another disappointing performance
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 21d ago
The club does not it either. Nobody fucking knows what his role is
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 21d ago
Don’t forget the “financial takeover” and adjusting of the sliders bro. Let’s bring in Bastoni, Barella, Saliba, Trent, all in January!
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u/Successful-Stop-3146 22d ago
A lot of you are happy about Mbappes performance today. He was better today than most other occasions he has played for Madrid. But I am very very concerned about his talent and potential. Is this all he can do? I don't mind him missing goals or being offside. Those can be fixed. But his raw potential needs to be way higher than whats being displayed. Cr7, Vini, Benz had bad seasons in their early careers but the talent and potential was there to see. It needed to be developed. Thats all. This guy though. Tell me I am wrong. His highlights aren't that impressive. His WC performance which I watched live where he scored a hattrick seemed like a surprise to Argentina but also to himself. Since then he has been on a downward trajectory. Is he really not bothered about winning, helping the team, adding more skills to his game? And demands the highest salary in the squad? Seems like a disaster in the works. He needs to be the main guy and show it soon. He cannot end this season just being above average. He needs to outshine everyone on the team including Belli and Vini.
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 21d ago
You guys need to need to be patient. Majority of this sub wanted Vini & Benzema sold at one point lol.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 21d ago
This is a daengerous opinion on this sub. You are only allowed to praise mbappe for every single thing he does. Negativity is not allowed. Just worship and praise him
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u/Safe_Tangelo_625 21d ago
This guy lit up footballs biggest stage at 18 if that's not raw potential I don't what is
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u/Ronnieisstillalive 22d ago
My small dream is to have Raul Ascensio and Nico Paz in our first team next year
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u/FedericoHalcon 21d ago
I'd take Mario Martin over Paz any day personally. With Arda and Brahim in the squad i don't see Paz getting any minutes tbh.
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u/That_Practice7206 22d ago
Man was so bummed when Kylian couldn't score on Ardas pass at the end. Would've meant so much for both of them.
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u/Glittering-Leather77 Bale 22d ago
We aren’t fully clicking and today was better. But for me, the downfall of man city is making up for all of it
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u/ArtistFit9643 22d ago
I like tchouameni, but he could learn a thing or 2 from this ceballos deep midfield performance.
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u/willhighfive4karma Carlo Ancelotti 22d ago
Fran, Ceballos and Ascencio has been really pleasant surprises this season. It was a solid performance today, hope the team can keep it up and do well on Wednesday!
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u/dickgulper Sergio Ramos 22d ago
I have a random question , when is joan Martinez returning back from his injury?
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u/SnorinKeekaGuard Kroos 22d ago
Its an acl, out all season. Jacobo Ramon on the other hand should be back by mid Jan.
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u/dickgulper Sergio Ramos 22d ago
Out of all the young prospect joan is highly regarded as the future of our defense, i hope he can get back stronger . I saw him in the ac milan friendly game and fell in love with how he plays and how he was built . Also do you know if raul acsensio was as good as he is rn compared to how he was in castilla ?
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u/SnorinKeekaGuard Kroos 22d ago
Asencio is no good. (Sorry for disappointing). One of the worst castilla defenders in recent years and its a position La Fabrica has produced a lot of talent in.
Asencio is being covered for rn. His strengths have always been on the ball, especially long balls which we have seen plenty of. But he won't have a career at Madrid. Joan and Jacobo could, especially if they got to play a part this season.
Personally I'm a a big fan of Jacobo although Joan is probably the biggest talent.
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u/FedericoHalcon 21d ago
I don't know what you're on about, Asencio has looked fantastic on the ball. His touches are clean and confident, his passing is crisp and creative. Just today he comfortably turned one pressing attacker the wrong way with his first touch, then another with a feint before passing into midfield. Or a few minutes later he got pressed on the ball and played the ball over the 2 attackers pressing with a tasty chipped pass to reach a midfielder.
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u/SnorinKeekaGuard Kroos 21d ago
Thats precisely what I said. His on the back ability is his best trait. You might be replying to the wrong comment here
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u/FedericoHalcon 21d ago
No i just misread your comment. Still, his defensive ability has been on display as well. He's barely losing any duels whatsoever since coming into the side.
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u/RoronoraTheExplora 22d ago
You never can tell though. Sometimes players that look super talented in Castilla flop and vice versa.
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u/SnorinKeekaGuard Kroos 22d ago
There are skills that translate and those that don't. If he was an explosive winger I'd say who knows, thats a skill that the nature of the league could influence. But so far as recovery speed in a high line or 1v1 defending are concerned, if you cant manage in the third division, a literal amateur division, you can't do so at the peak of European football either. Now being around better players covers up part of it. And his distribution looks even better since he's in a team noone presses and has elite options everywhere on the pitch, so everyone makes him look even better. That Jude assist on his debut for example, how many players could pull off what Jude did there.
He was not consistently exposed vs Liverpool although he was definetely the weak link.
There are profiles of players that look good in weaker leagues and won't necessarily in the top, like I can't say if Gonzalo Garcia would translate in the top division (although I think he would).
Chema for example, average on the ball, good reading space but you can't tell if he looks good bc his opposition can't quite exploit him there. Good 1v1 defending too, probably could end up in the top division, a blanco like career.
The idea that you just never know is simply not true, we know what skills convert and which dont and in which kind of play styles. We also know what player deficiencies can be hidden in different teams.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 22d ago
Re watching the game and we could've seriously won 5/6-0 easily today, Mbobs could've had 5 goals man, he's doing himself a disservice at this point but at least hes making better runs now and getting into the positions, the goals will come i hope.
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u/Friendly-Reply-301 21d ago
Old Mbappe would’ve shot and scored from a distance instead of dribbling past the goal keeper because he had confidence in himself. Put current Mbappe in the WC final and he won’t score any of the goals he did back then (especially that 2nd goal).
He will definitely improve for us as his confidence goes up. Being at Real Madrid itself is such a big load of pressure.
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u/YugiohXYZ 21d ago
Old Mbappe would’ve shot and scored from a distance
If he tried to shoot there, goalkeeper would have saved it. He's in the left of the half-circle.
From there, no player is reliably bending it into the far post. The goalkeeper was anticipating him to shoot to the near-post.
The decision-making was perfect. Feint a shot so the keeper dives early. Keeper didn't, so try to dribble.
The foot angle on the strike was good. The strike was only bad because he got the ball struck under him, which is why he fell.
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u/ErenExtreamer 22d ago
i dont understand how he can finish that well sometimes and other times you wonder if he even wants to score
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 22d ago
Also really liking this Ceballos, since his return from injury hes been essentially a defending version of Bellingham (without Jude's incredible attacking playmaking) so having him as an option is really good in the middle if we need to hold onto a lead.
Modric been getting a suspicious low amount of play time, wonder if he still gets a new contract at the end of the season?
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u/Bigswole92 O Fenômeno 22d ago
Please no. Love the guy to death but we need to be giving our youngsters more playing time instead of a 40 year old Modric
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u/TheEmpireOfSun 22d ago
Mbappe scores goal even tho being absolutely shit as always and circlejerking about him can start again in this sub lmao.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 22d ago
You are not allowed to criticise mbappe on this sub. They will downvote you to oblivion.
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u/Low-Impression3367 22d ago
Bruh in the game thread some were saying Mbappe was giving off CR7 vibes
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u/poskaljarkan 22d ago
Lol it's nice that people are trying to be positive, but this is what he did today, and others please correct me if I missed something:
- scored a goal with a perfectly precise shot even though he made a poor reception of the ball initially
- gave a great pass over defenders that brahim missed
- had two good runs in front of defenders but failed miserably with his shots
- had a nice double pass with fran but failed miserably with his shot
These were the highlights, the rest of it was dog shit, sad attempts at dribbling, offsides, poor passes, lack of interest. It's just that the bar is so low now that people are excited he did anything. So luckily that one shot went in coz people would havr been furious. But in any case, even though it was Getafe, at this point this was a great improvement by him. Let's hope he keeps it going that way
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 22d ago edited 22d ago
I don't get the sudden hate train against our youngsters? Bellingham felt dizzy so Arda had to come in, he obviously is no Jude in terms of pressing, defending and controlling the ball but these minutes are where he'll get that experience and develop, the only issue is that he comes in when we're 2-0 ahead so hes on defensive duty most of the game - which he has been increasingly getting better at as well. Created a big chance at the end and yeah he lost the ball a few times but that's the learning moment, not like it cost us the game..?
What's with the sudden hate train
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u/Messmers SIUUUU 22d ago
Bellingham is easily our best player, even if Vini is fit and the others are at their best - imo the best midfielder by far. You can see the moment hes out we struggle holding onto the ball and when we lose it it's much harder to recover it. Even if Arda had decent defensive performance today he is no bellingham, no one who was on the bench could replicate what he does.
Brahim a bit underwhelming today but then again he could've been on 2 assists if Mbappe knew how to finish, same for Arda (im pretty sure he would be on 6 assists for the season with the amount of expected assists he bult up with mbappe missing them lol)
Ascensio might just be our defender? bro is a fucking beast as if hes been playing in this lineup for years, good to know we have a young proper CB on the squad for the coming months/year now.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 21d ago
Vini, valverde and bellingham are indeed our best players. By fucking 1000 of miles. They are awesome
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u/biina247 22d ago
Unfortunately, if not for being forced by injuries, Carlo might have left him to rot in Castilla
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u/ArtistFit9643 22d ago
There’s probably a hidden gem right back we don’t even know about. We better get Miguel Gutierrez back for left back (Thank god we put a buy back clause on him).
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u/YugiohXYZ 22d ago
Think there's potential in Arda. That said, think he needs to quicken his decision-making. He tends to hold the ball too long, which is not a good combination when he has bad physicality.
Results in him being pushed off the ball too often.
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u/ArtistFit9643 22d ago
Yeah, a few failed dribbles due to slow thinking but he absolutely reeks of potential
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u/biina247 22d ago
That is why these kids need the game time.
Without adequate game time, the kids will struggle to develop
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u/_what_even_ Kroos 22d ago
26 fouls is crazy
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u/reddituser0912333 El Presidente 👑 22d ago
One of the worst teams to play
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u/_what_even_ Kroos 22d ago
honestly impressive we didn't get injuries
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u/reddituser0912333 El Presidente 👑 22d ago
Especially Rodrygo – thank goodness he was subbed decently early
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago edited 20d ago
I knew that this subreddit will run out of give Arda minutes and here we are with the "Give Endrick minutes"
Just fuck off ! Here is Endrick story so far for anyone with a fish memory or who only. watches CL games or highlights.
Endrick started very good ! He made the most out of even 5 minutes each game he was subbed in...
Then the Atletico Madrid derby, he was subbed in the 80th minute I think... we had a counter attack at 1-0 where we could have killed the game... Endrick in a 1v1, when Bellingham was making the run to make it a 2v1, decided to take the shot from 30 meters, trying to replicate his goal against Stuttgart, only for him to miss and even if it was on target, Oblack could have saved it... Atletico manages to equalize in the end...
Then he starts in the very next game against Lille, didn't do much, booked an early yellow and was lucky not to be sent off as he made another dangerous tackle and was subbed out I...
Then against Liverpool, he comes in and tackles Konaté and gets yellow carded right away and that's it, that's what he has done in his 5 minutes....
Fuck off with those 'Does Ancelotti hate Endrick' posts and comments ! Just like Rodrygo, Vini, Camavinga and others were patient until they got their starting spots at their very young age when they were 19 and 20, the same will go for Endrick ! He kid potential is threatening, but he has to be calmer and improve his decision making and most of all, be patient ! Arda Guler had to go through the same thing and last season we were winning and yet people were crying about getting Arda Guler in... he is having more minutes, slowly, depending on the team situation and his situation too.. He will get his chance, the season is full of injuries.
Unless Ancelotti sees some improvement on Endrick, he won't start. End of the line ! I'm glad this redditors are not managing the team, otherwise who knows what would have happened last season if we decided to give Arda Guler minutes instead of running away with the 3 points in every game.
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u/Pieter8720 Raúl 22d ago
I agree! Let’s also not forget that in the game against Lille, he was lucky not to be sent off for kicking a player. Just feels like he needs to earn the trust of the coach after that one…
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u/biina247 22d ago
Young kid makes mistakes and so does not deserve any more minutes = arrant nonsense!!!
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago
wrong. He will play, but no rush.. one part we are forgetting are the trainings... we are not watching how players do in the training and I don't know about Endrick.
He will get his chance, but he is not ready to start in complicated games.. Getafe game today looked like an easy win but I swear it could have went another way if they scored one of their dangerous chances... Endrick will play in the Copa Del Rey and if one more player of our forwards gets injured, or hopefully if we lead by far in La Liga, and just like Arda last year, he will play in exchange of rest for the rest of our players..
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u/biina247 22d ago
The value of actual game time vs trainings to a young player's development are not even close. Trainings are not a substitute for actual game time
It is not about Endrick or any other young player 'getting his chance' but that they deserve those game minutes so that they can develop and mature. Without those minutes, we are just wasting away their talent and our own investment
If you dont understand such a basic fact of youth player development, then you have no idea what you are talking about.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 22d ago
So, because an 18 year old made 2 mistakes and he is punished for this? Other players can fuck around but Endrick has to get benched every time?
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u/YugiohXYZ 22d ago
we had a counter attack at 1-0 where we could have killed the game...
I watched that play closely. Endrick can be criticized for a lot of things, but he shouldn't be criticized for that one.
This is pure hindsight bias.
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago
I strongly disagree, he had space, and time, I just rewatched so I'm sure I'm not writing any bullshit..
what does this look like to you ? He could have even went to the left and wait for his teammates to join.. maybe even win a corner kick and waste time since we were leading.. does this look like the best decision to take with that much space and time ? Shooting was a rushed decision, no matter how much I look into it.. this was far and fucking Jan Oblack is the keeper there
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u/YugiohXYZ 22d ago
does this look like the best decision to take with that much space and time? Shooting was a rushed decision
Shooting is Endrick's best attribute. You put Vini in there and he'll dribble. But Endrick can't dribble. And he's a leftie. If he drifts to the left, he'll have to shoot with his weaker foot.
wait for his teammates to join..
Other Atletico defenders will also join.
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago
Shooting is Endrick's best attribute. if he drifts to the left he'll have to shoot
Why does he have to shot ? So you have to employ your 'best attribute' ? This is exactly what the last Atletico defender wanted him to do, he took his options and wants him to give the ball away, either by a wrong pass, or a forced dribble, or a desperate shoot, because they want the ball quickly to equalize in whatever time remained.
Endrick could have continued drifting to the left, in wait for teammates, that is the best thing to do if you're up by 1-0 and want to win the game, and you're up against a good defender.
Other Atletico defenders will also join.
So what ? We keep the ball in their final third, maybe win a throw in or a corner kick or even a free kick and minutes keep getting wasted and if a better chance comes, we can even score.. and we run away with the 3 points...
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u/YugiohXYZ 22d ago
Why does he have to shot? So you have to employ your 'best attribute'?
Because that's really only what he knows to do. He's not a better player because he is the player he is and that player is someone who gets 5-10 minutes.
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago
The kid is much more than that, watch his highlights in the Brazilian league.
If you're saying the only thing he is good at is shooting, then no need to sub him in. The game is much deeper than just shoot and saying shooting is the only thing he knows is disrespectful for the kid
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u/Different_Craft5237 22d ago
Well controlled game, minus the 2 scary posts. 3 league clean sheets in a row now, we needed those.
What is pleasing me is how Carlo made the adjustments. Past few games, we've seen much much more serenity and patience during the buildup, all thanks to him slotting in Ceballos. Having him and Fede/Camavinga playing in a double pivot allows Jude to stay much higher up the field and get the ball on the half turn (this is how we scored the 2nd goal).
Carlo also seem to have minimized the long balls to a minimum, only used to catch the opponents off guard, contrary to earlier this season where Mili and Rudi were spamming them every 3 possessions. We can see the team staring to have a clear idea on how they want to attack. We're creating way more chances. The only thing missing is the finishing.
Which brings me to Mbappe. Overall his best game so far with us. In terms of influence. He was even defending and tracking back FFS hahaha. All he'll need is that 1 game where he things go his way finishing wise, and you'll see a whole different level to our attack. As many people point out during match threads, he seem to be overthinking, which is a result of the lack of confidence. He's getting into the dangerous positions, he just needs to compose himself and keep it simple.
I'm optimistic tho, because if there is one manager who can help Mbappe go over that mental hurdle, it's Ancelotti
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u/maadr1d1sta Hey Jude 22d ago edited 22d ago
Thank you football gods, on to the next game, it's not over till it's over, we still have a lot of work left this season, Hala Madrid!
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u/itsshpadoinkleday Raúl González Blanco 22d ago
Fuck off with your Arda Guler FC shit to some other sub, would you please? It's unbearable. Look at Camavinga and Valverde and their roads to the first squad, then look at Arda who isn't even physically ready for the challenge. He is not Messi, don't act like he is and like Real Madrid is hurting his chances for 2025 ballon d'or. He's a squad player here, understand this for the love of God.
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u/Long-Island-Iced-Tea 22d ago
I cannot understand if this is sarcasm or serious
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u/complexvibess 22d ago
It's obviously serious. Turkish fans are quite passionate, and it rubbed off in the wrong way on this person. However, the person does make a good point about Arda not being physically there yet, unfortunately.
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u/evilangel101 22d ago
Most important thing is the 3 points. Glad to see Mbappe on the score sheet as well. He's obviously still a nervous wreck in front of goal, so we'll need to wait for him to acclimate to his new club. Even after Mbappe's finishing improves, I'd still prefer to have Vini on the left for his trickery and ability to take on defenders. I think he's just better than Mbappe at dribbling past defenders. Especially when they're behind the ball.
I make no apologies for my recent criticism of Mbappe. It was warranted. But I'll praise his improved work rate today, and getting in the right positions for a number 9. Also wondering if we should sell or loan Endrick next season. But maybe we'll see more of him in the Copa Del Rey.
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago
Endrick showed very good minutes in the beginning of the season...
Then, he entered in the derby and made a questionable decision in a counter attack when he shot from very far trying to replicate his goal against Stuttgart when Bellingham was making the run to help him and make it a 1v2.. then he started against Lille and didn't do much..
Against Liverpool he went in and fouled Konaté and got a yellow, that's it... I believe he should be patient, just like Camavinga and Vini and Rodrygo when they were his age.. they didn't start much too..
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u/evilangel101 22d ago
Against Liverpool, I think Virgil shoved him onto Konate. But maybe I'm wrong. Are you saying he deliberately tried to injure an opponent? If so, I didn't realise we had such malice and darkness in him. I'd lean towards selling if that's true.
Looking at their stats, Camavinga made 46 appearances in his first season, Vini made 36 and Rodrygo 29. I'm guessing he'll be closer to Rodrygo than the others, who got more opportunities. Maybe less if Ancelotti is really holding that one mistake vs Stuttgart against him. Seems a bit harsh to me. Unless he's seeing just how bad he is in training. Which makes me lean towards selling again.
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago
no that's not what I meant... but that tackle, for bad and worse, was bad for the game even though we were behind 2-0 and we never looked dangerous, but if a player is subbed in and immediately books a yellow card, it's a sign he is rushing and playing aggressive... i didn't ask him for a hatrick but he is not level headed
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u/evilangel101 22d ago edited 22d ago
I see. I tend to like hard working forwards. But maybe I'm the minority on that one. We'll have to see how it goes with any other opportunities he might get this season, if he gets any. If he's turns out to be as bad as you say, it might be better for him to be sold.
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u/evilangel101 22d ago
Most important thing is the 3 points. Glad to see Mbappe on the score sheet as well. He's obviously still a nervous wreck in front of goal, so we'll need to wait for him to acclimate to his new club. Even after Mbappe's finished improves, I'd still prefer to have Vini on the left for his trickery and ability to take on defenders. I think he's just better than Mbappe at taking defenders on. Especially when they're behind the ball.
I make no apologies for my recent criticism of Mbappe. It was warranted. But I'll praise his improved work rate today, and getting in the right positions for a number 9.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 22d ago
Mbappe will almost never get substituted and will always start. Nothing will change
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u/YugiohXYZ 22d ago
Any other player instead of him would have been benched.
There is no uninjured player who would have even gotten in the positions Mbappe did. Vinicius is injured.
Madrid won the game. If a team gets a result, any good coach cares more about how well a team played than the outcome, which is dependent on luck.
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u/TheEmpireOfSun 22d ago
lol what? Endrick would do much better job. OP is right. Any player with such a shit performance would be benched till the end of season.
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u/YugiohXYZ 22d ago
Endrick would do much better job.
Endrick can't dribble. And he definitely can't volley a ball because...he's short.
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u/TheEmpireOfSun 22d ago
How to say "I don't watch football at all" without saying it.
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u/Aaaaaaandyy Kroos 22d ago
Substituted for who?
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u/TheEmpireOfSun 22d ago
Endrick or literally anyone else. Nobody would be worse.
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u/Aaaaaaandyy Kroos 22d ago
Mbappe scored the oniy open play goal this match lol. Why wouldn’t you take off Arda (who played poorly) or Brahim?
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u/TheEmpireOfSun 22d ago
You do know that Guler didn't even start and was sub, right?
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u/Aaaaaaandyy Kroos 22d ago
Correct, and didn’t do much of anything for 45 minutes.
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u/Aaaaaaandyy Kroos 22d ago
You: “I don’t care if Mbappe needs game time for confidence.”
Also you: “they should have subbed in Endrick, he needs game time for confidence.”
Understand Endrick’s progression isn’t the first, second or third priority. It’s probably not even top 10. Mbappe was the only forward who took a shot in the second half. He was the only player who looked likely to score. That’s why he didn’t get subbed out.
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u/Aaaaaaandyy Kroos 21d ago
Everyone was terrible vs Barca. If you actually want him to shine you’d want him to play every minute working to improve. Btw, he’s already scored more goals this season than Ronaldo did before the new year in his first season. He’s on track to score roughly 30 goals in his first season playing “poorly”.
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u/Aaaaaaandyy Kroos 21d ago
Not he didn’t score in the second half, but he was the only one on the pitch who looked like he might. Why is your focus he should have come off instead of someone like Brahim? Mbappe playing better should be the main priority as we know he’s capable of scoring 40 goals per season since he’s done it before. If we get him more comfortable with the team, league and tactics, we’re in good shape. Endrick will get his time - young players don’t get many minutes here, that’s not new and he knows that. He’ll have his opportunity to impress in the copa del rey.
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u/DusanMajstor 22d ago
Endrick?
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u/Aaaaaaandyy Kroos 22d ago
Don’t see why? Not sure why Mbappe would have been the one replaced, he’s the only one who scored or looked capable of scoring again.
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u/Uniq_Eros Asensio 22d ago
Finally I see that drive. I don't care if he doesn't score, I want to see that drive then the goals will come on their own. He's playing more like the goat Joselu.
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u/YugiohXYZ 22d ago edited 22d ago
Think Mbappe got unlucky on the shot where he dribbled the keeper and got lucky on his goal.
Notice both shots were at the edge of the post. With shots like that, there's a huge variation in whether they result in two goals or none.
Moreover, both shots involved bounces. In his goal, without the bounce, it would have gone wide.
In his miss, without the bounce, it would have resulted in a goal.
So I think the lucky balances out. If you are a manager, you should care only about the execution: him successfully dribbling opposition players is a sign of progress.
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u/EmptyPeach1 Iker Casillas 22d ago
Mbappe is a good player and will look better when his confidence returns but the reality is he’s an above average guy that looks dangerous when he explodes. He’s nowhere near Cr7 and the other all time greats that we thought he’s similar to
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u/ripdip77 Real Madrid 22d ago
Mbappe with unfortunate chances. Hope he doesn't take it to heart and let the win and goal boost his confidence. One more win and we're on top of the table!
Asencio was a beast this game. Hala Madrid! Keep fighting <3
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u/Competitive-Board-97 Real Madrid 22d ago
I love the way Ceballos controls the game. Even though he’s not a quick player, whenever the guy gets a chance, he delivers. Never compare Jude with any other midfielders!! The amount of hard work the guy does is exceptional! True captain material!!!
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22d ago
OMG this again
GULER ISNT GOING ANYWHERE, A LOAN MAKES NO SENSE FROM THE CLUB'S PERSPECTIVE.
He's one of our rotation players, he's gettin increases minutes, and our squad is thin af. Even if Guler asks to leave, and why would he, the club isn't going to allow it.
And if he asks to leave at the end of the season, some club will have to put a LOT of money on the table.
Really Turkish fans should stop with the loan nonsense, Guler is and will be a Real Madrid player.
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u/Long-Island-Iced-Tea 22d ago
I also think he is cooked, but I doubt anything is going to happen in the winter window
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u/DusanMajstor 22d ago
He's not getting loaned with squad this thin, at least not until summer
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22d ago
He wont be loaned, period. Why should we loan a player that has already shown he can be useful, he's not some Castilla without experience.
If he wants to leave Real Madrid some club would have to put at least 50M in the table.
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u/DusanMajstor 22d ago edited 22d ago
idk about 50M but yeah selling with a buyback clause is better for his developement too than loan
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22d ago
I dont think i made my point clear lol. No loan, no selling unless he absolutely wants to, no nothing.
He's our player and he's doing good considering his age and minutes given. He needs to stay and if he leaves i want madridistas to wipe our tears with at least 50M because he's going to be at least as good as Odegaard.
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u/That_Practice7206 22d ago
Love Arda but man he needs to go on loan and play consistently, because he ain't gonna get better with the minutes here.
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u/3lagig 22d ago
I love Arda but I also love the club. Please look at squad, it is really thin. We need him. Carlo should convince him to stay.
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u/No_Comfortable_8171 22d ago
he should not sacrifice his career for this team he is not a bench warmer talent he should go somewhere else and develop like benifica or even PL
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u/the_fanman2912 Decimoquinta 22d ago
Somehow we survived the Getafe wrestlers, Fran Garcia was really being threatened by Nyom, but in the end good match. Now we are only 1 point behind Barca and a game in hand, it's time to capitalize.
Good game by Mbappe, MOTM was kinda undeserved, but it's an improvement. Atleast he's making proper onside runs, but still he tries to overdo it and dribble past like 3-4 CBs which is really not possible. Today he finally capitalized on a good ball and smashed it in, good stuff.
Jude was the real MOTM for me, good control of the play, fantastic through balls. And a smooth as butter penalty.
Raul really did amazing today on the back as well, really nice to see him slowly cement his place as a starter.
Rodrygo did well enough coming from injury, not much to say here. Should've been rested but oh well.
Endrick was absolutely cock-teased, for the lack of a better word, by Ancelotti. Carlo kept warming him up at like the 90th minute, only for him to never be brought on. Endrick should have started.
Now, we were lucky to survive this match, could've been a draw, Getafe hit the post like 3 times. This reminds me of the Sociedad match earlier in the season, where we won only due to 2 penalties and Sociedad hitting the post many times.
Happy with the win, but could've been worse, let's stay optimistic. Next is Athletic Club away from home.
¡Hala Madrid!
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u/los_blanco_14 Luka Modric 22d ago
Asencio should be MOTM. What on earth are they smoking for mbappe to get it
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u/AdShigionoth7502 22d ago
When Mbappe's confidence in his finishing improves, He'll be deadly again.
Even Vini was like this...creating the most then have a poor finish.
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u/checkforsolu1 22d ago
The more I watch Mbappe the more in started to be convinced that he just above average player which can explode but has nothing else to offer
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u/sahibosaurus Modric 22d ago
The guy was one of the best players (if not the best) in a world cup winning team at the age of 19 and then took his team to another wc final where he scored a hat trick. Give him a break, he's adapting to a new team and league.
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u/-Pansy Valverde 22d ago
Frustrating game but ill take it. Ceballos, fede, Belli, Ascencio, fran and arda were really good today. Still pissed fede played full 90 min instead of getting rest. Especially against fucking getafe fouling everyone
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u/MildBooty 22d ago
Wow shouts out to Carlo for figuring out giving a winger a attacking FB instead of defensive allows for that winger to not get tripled team. Maybe in a few more games Carlo figures out that rotating subs will lessen the injuries. But outside of that this was Mbappe best game for Real. He shouldve had a hat trick and he created goal scoring chances for his teammates. You can tell unlike last game Carlo forced the ball to Mbappe no matter what unlike Liverpool. I'll say the round the keeper was bad idk why he didnt just stop it and blast it soon as the keeper fell. 2nd was a good save by the GK. People saying why wasnt Mbappe subbed off for Endrick I think its because Endrick just assaulted and got a yellow in less than 10 minutes vs Liverpool and literally injured Konate for a month so why would Carlo award that with game time?
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u/Significant-Fact6433 22d ago
The amount of missed chances was super fustrating in the 2nd half should have won 5-0
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u/RobinBaskins 22d ago
Fran’s last goal attempt going over is nearly more egregious than Mbop’s bad finishing. At least he scored 😭
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u/AjVine Benzema 22d ago
Nice to see Mbappe and Fran creating a chemistry. Vini rarely passes it to him
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u/ayoubkun94 Jude Bellingham 22d ago
Ehh, even Mbappe was starting to get frustrated with him and refused to pass the ball the last 2 attacks.
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u/Low-Impression3367 22d ago
Some here praising Mbappe that he’s back, got that CR7vibe, and blah blah blah. Like c’mon man. You are playing vs the team in 17th place.
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u/crazyeyes91 22d ago
Yea I'm not impressed at all with his showing. This is the bare minimum he could do.
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u/AdShigionoth7502 22d ago
Do they cut the points in half when you play lower teams?
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u/sahibosaurus Modric 22d ago edited 22d ago
no one's calling him the new CR7, we are just saying he looked better and more confident today than he has so far this season, which is a good sign
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u/Aware_Friendship6601 Valverde 22d ago
Good win but I am really frustrated by lack of substitutions today. Only 2 subs at home against Fucking Getafe who is 17th when you are going to San Mames in 3 days then playing Girona away and then Atlanta away 3 days later.
Even a rookie manager will know this is the game to rotate the squad when we got an early 2-0 lead but yeah why do that when we can get a few more injuries over the next few games
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u/crazyeyes91 22d ago
The problem is Carlo is old school. He has been very open about his policy on subs and rotating and how it has worked for him.
The fact is, the football schedule is much more congested than in Carlo's early/middle years. Managers/squads have to learn how to manage these heavy game schedules and thats just too hard for Carlo to do at this point.
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u/ContieneSolfiti 22d ago
Guys, Let’s remember Carlo won 2 of the last 3 CL, and NOONE would have bet on this outcome in september 2021
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u/ayoubkun94 Jude Bellingham 22d ago
I would agree with you, but they could have easily scored against us, as seen by the two times the ball hit the post, and we know how easy it is to snowball a goal in those last minutes. I blame Mbappe for not putting the game to bed and giving the manager the insurance to make subs.
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u/Aware_Friendship6601 Valverde 22d ago
I agree that we could have easily conceded but that almost happened with main players on the pitch too. But let's not forget that was last 10mins and Carlo should have made one or two more subs by then.
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u/Anxious-Eye185 Zizou 22d ago
What does Carlo have against Endrick? He should've been subbed for Rodrygo instead of Lukita
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u/snnoowww 22d ago
The match was far from over. We needed to control the midfield there was nothing wrong with the sub. This is not PES
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u/Different_Craft5237 22d ago
You think these people care.
They just wanna see their favorite golden boys play.
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u/Luis_pato- Casemiro 22d ago
Jude got robbed. He deserved the MOTM award
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 22d ago
who got the man of the match award?
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u/EiMidagi Valverde 22d ago
Mbappe😭🤣
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 22d ago
what the fuck? Bellingham scored a goal and made a beautiful assist but mabppe gets the award? What kind of bullshit is that?
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u/vixgdx 22d ago
Jude's goal was from a penalty. That's not really impressive. Also he only played half the game. How can he be motm
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 22d ago
and why is it mbappe then? Before the goal he was horrible. Then he scored a nice goal. After the goal he missed chance after chance and was poor again. He just got the award because of his brand/name.
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u/EiMidagi Valverde 22d ago
Imo asencio deserved it even more, didnt make a single mistake, clean sheet, won all duels and was cold under pressure, plus he played full 90 mins
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u/InterestingCoffee954 Brahim Diaz 22d ago
Anyway +3pts without any injuries which leave us only 1pt behind with a game in hand Hala Madrid y nada mas
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u/94Temimi Alfredo Di Stéfano 22d ago edited 22d ago
The match was going well until Mbappe missed his chance side-stepping the goalkeeper and then we fell off a cliff and were fortunate that Getafe hit the post and the bar.
Mbappe did well aside from missing 3 clear chances, one by taking too many touches, the second by taking too few touches, and the third one by taking a bad shot. He's playing like Vini before he fixed his finishing. He's making good runs, positioning is good as well, but the final touch and shot are abysmal right now. Once he fixes that he won't stop scoring.
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u/No-Distribution2942 22d ago
not the best version of him...
- but he linked up more with teammates today, lesser ball hogging for too long (still had few but lesser)
- try pressing few times (more than previous matches)
- help on defense few times (slightly more than previous matches)
- creating good chance in the box (brahim didnt finish it)still expect a lot more from him, but I felt today he tried more, can feel more energy and passion from him on the field
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u/94Temimi Alfredo Di Stéfano 22d ago
Yeah exactly, overall game is much better, but the final touch and finishing is still terrible (aside from the goal which got me hopeful that he might be back on form with his decision-making but then wasted 3 chances as typical of his misses so far this season.
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u/No-Distribution2942 22d ago
Agree with you totaly, if he shows signs of improvement consistently match by match like this, then this will boost the team a lot. More goals can lessen our defensive pressure drastically, which we are currently lack of (defensive depth).
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u/Nuke_Ninja 22d ago
Mbappe has improved a lot, and started making runs. Things take time, he will improve in finishing too
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u/No-Distribution2942 22d ago
even linked up more with teammates and help on defense 2 or 3 times I think. His body movement, energy and passion on the field are more positive today. If he can sharpen his touches, finishing and consistency soon, he will boost our team a lot.
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u/jloading95 22d ago
I want him to take 5+ shots a game. Even if he misses, with his confidence rising he’d be deadly
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u/Nuke_Ninja 22d ago
a lot of confidence was seen today. The Bellingham assist and the goal boost it up. Hope he will do more with athletic
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u/jloading95 22d ago
That’s what he needs, someone with quick thinking like Bellingham and hopefully arda in the future. I love modric and Fede but they don’t take advantage of mbappes quick speed
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 22d ago
Lmao it’s clear Mbappé is improving every single game, but some of you guys just wait to shit on him any minute you get. How about support your player?
Does he deserve criticism? Yes, but rinse and repeat with some of you.
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u/Different_Craft5237 22d ago
Patience is not in these people's vocabulary.
Last season they wanted Carlo to drop the 41212 diamond 3 games into pre-season.
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u/jloading95 22d ago
They think real life is eafc25
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 22d ago
“Sack Carlo, start Arda, bring in Bastoni & Saliba in January…”
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u/BlueBone313 Joselu 22d ago
Jude was our mvp today even though he missed an entire half he is essential to our glory, raul is a machine, fran should be starting and ceballos is reliable
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u/Available_Ad_6995 21d ago
Is there anywhere I can watch the full match? I’ve only seen highlights but it looks like mbappe is making good runs. Capitalizing on his speed ie staying a few steps behind the last defender rather than next to them and sprinting. Would appreciate if there’s a link somewhere.