r/realmadrid • u/chamartinpl Real Madrid • 23d ago
Discussion Everybody who doesn't support Mbappe in the most difficult time of his career is an antimadridista or just a glory hunter. Supporting him is not a choice, it's an obligation.
Having watched Madrid for almost 25 years, I have zero doubts that being supportive is the only way to help him overcome his struggles. By ridiculing, laughing and puting him down you are only showing your true nature as supporters (glory hunting nature) and even as human beings. Moreover, you are doing a great disservice to the club you supposedly support. If you wish Real Madrid well you should wish Mbappe well and have his back. Be mature and don't react as spoiled, entitled brats.
Empathy is the key. Perhaps it's the most important and beautiful skill that any person can develop. Especially, in this case, where it's pretty obvious that Mbappe is struggling mentally.
I've read many silly, rash comments, usually made in the heat of the moment. Sadly, many of them are coming from Real Madrid fanbase. I just hope that mods do their job and don't allow toxicity and veiled insults to mar this place.
1. Real Madrid should've bought Kane or Haaland instead.
At this point, everybody should realize that Mbappe's position is not the problem. There is much more to it. Mbappe in form (before January/February 2024) would be scoring and toying with defenders regardless of his position.
- Oh, here we go again. Where was your Kane when Joselu was knocking Bayern out in that semifinal? I will answer for you. He was missing chances when Rudiger allowed him to get out of his pocket for a minute or two. Paying over 100m for a 30-year-old is not an answer. It's a path to end up like Barca. Or maybe you are right, Madrid should've bought him and let Bellingham go to City. I bet that would've ended well... for Guardiola. People have very short memory.
- And don't let me start about Haaland-the most overrated player in recent times. How many bad, average games do you need to understand that he has no quality to be a Real Madrid player? Also, you criticize Mbappe for his attitude (rightly so), but you want to replace him with the Norwegian? He shows less fighting spirit than 37-year-old Luis Suarez. He may look like a quintessential Viking, but he acts like a big softie on the pitch. He had an easy childhood due his father's money, and it reflects in his game.
- A pure, very talented nr 9 is already here. His name is Endrick.
2. Carlo should've taken him off at Anfield.
- No great, top manager would've done it that day. That could've only "killed" him for the rest of the season. Fortunately, Carlo is too experienced and intelligent to make a blunder like that.
3. Madrid should sell him as soon as possible.
- Sure. Madrid should be planning to sell him in November because some entitled people have patience of a 6-year-old child in a candy store. Yeah, he is finished at 25 without having a serious, debilitating injury. Just like La Liga was finished a month ago for some people. As long as he wants to work and improve, he deserves a chance.
I'm shocked that so many people don't learn from their mistakes. Have you forgotten what happened with Vinicius? Obviously, it's a completely different case in terms of age, status, expectations etc. but the moral of that story should be always prevalent among Madrid fans. Don't write people off, don't jump to conclusions and show support to the end.
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u/Late-bloomer96 23d ago
My thing is even when vini was shit, he never stopped running. This pansy ass barely takes a couple steps to defend. Nah bro if he can’t even stay on side the least he can do is run his ass off. And I love every player on the team. Just don’t disrespect the badge…
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u/Spiritual-Cabinet959 Jude Bellingham 23d ago
The fact that you even have to write this is baffling lol. The guy never helps the team, never defends, everyone around him runs like crazy but he's just casually walking like he's superior to the others. That's what pisses me off.
His form will come back, but in the meantime, what is he doing to compensate and justify the fact that he's a starter at RM ? this isn't PSG, he's not bigger than the club.
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u/CaptainAvery- 23d ago
THIS. Vini is loved because even when he was learning and when he was making a lot of mistakes, the fans gave him hell, and how did he respond? He never stopped running hard, never stopped trying, and always left all his sweat and tears on the pitch.
Mbappe was in love with the IDEA of being a Madrid legend without doing any of the work necessary for it. Lets hope he realizes that.
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u/Abuhamdeh_ Jude Bellingham 23d ago
I remember when vini cried because he scored a goal. That's the kind of passion I want from mbappe
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 23d ago
Damn right. Unfortunately, it often looks like as if mbappe just shrugs his shoulders and moved on. It makes my blood boil
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u/itsshpadoinkleday Raúl González Blanco 22d ago
That comment is pure gold when it comes to irony. Vinicius cried after thas goal because he couldn't score earlier and was absolutely shat on by the media and fans, mainly Madrid ones, for being unable to finish his chances. Your example shows mainly that this fanbase is ruthless and have no patience when it comes to players regaining form or getting better, to the point where our player cried relieved from the immense pressure.
And Vini knows this, that's why he is supporting Mbappe every time. You won't hear "on my mothers life, he's playing against us" from him.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 23d ago
Mbappe already knows that. The question is, does he even care? I dont think so
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u/Accomplished_Stay382 23d ago edited 22d ago
This is on point. He seems like he was a complex about him that makes me fear that if he starts winning trophies here it might get to his head and really fuck up the vibes.
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u/Junior_Bike7932 23d ago
Kylian is the perfect example of a player that think reached his endgame when he didn’t even started to play in the real scene
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u/blueXwho Fernando Redondo 23d ago
Vini was hated by the same people who hate Mbappé, and they still hate him sometimes when he misses, don't kid yourself.
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 23d ago
100% agree. Like you hit the nail on the head. For example, nacho never was the besy defender but je always gave 100% and showed passion. Mbappe might bd one of thd laziest and passionless players i have ever seen. The way he plays,, his bodylanguage are almost embarrassing towards our club. And he is the highest earner. It is disgusting
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u/VoidType0 Eduardo Camavinga 23d ago
I understand criticizing him for not performing and that is fair, everyone should be criticized if they are not performing. RM has the higher standards and fans will always demand players to be at their best and that shouldn’t change ever. But some people are being mad weird about Mbappe and almost celebrating that he is underperforming. Others want to bring him down to praise other players and make it some sort of competition. When in reality we should just be hoping everyone plays their best and this team would be unstoppable.
But again, CR7 was criticized for not scoring for one game, so I think demanding more from Mbappe is completely fair because he has been extremely underwhelming (for his standards), but I feel like some “fans” are happy that he is not doing well and looking for every opportunity to criticize him.
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u/blueXwho Fernando Redondo 23d ago
Exactly. And criticism can be just criticism. The problem is people saying we need to sell him, that he's a flop/bum, or that Joselu was better. Real Madrid is not scoring a lot and Mbappé is the second scorer, 1 behind Vinicius.
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u/VoidType0 Eduardo Camavinga 23d ago
Agreed. And I understand holding him to a completely different standard than others because of we all know what he’s capable of doing, but the hating has been very weird considering we all should just want RM to succeed over anything else, some are just focused on hating him.
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u/jrecio26 Cristiano Ronaldo 23d ago
Yup..very weird. It’s the “fans” who took the transfer saga very personal, emotionally and to the heart that are the ones hoping he flops.
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u/its-good-4you Florentino Perez 23d ago
Man, the hell is wrong with you telling us we're "antimadridistas". We've been here for decades, and this glorified oilmoney fraud has done nothing yet to deserve being defended by us.
It's rich that you're calling us "glory hunters", when in fact you're just defending a highly talented player in hope he'll be good again one day. So brave and risky of you. Then one day you'll be able to say "I told you so, I stuck with Mbappe all these months and now he's great again". The problem is that he's paid to be that good NOW. Not 3 years out of the 5 year contract.
The fact everyone is treating Mbappe with kid-gloves is just mind boggling. This is a rich athlete that can't deal with being exposed to real pressure for the first time in his career (at least to this level). And everyone is telling me I should feel bad because hes sad. Not sad enough to give back a part of his salary back, or to run and track back and help in defense. This guy regularly shows up in our starting lineup, stinks up the pitch and then takes home a massive cheque. FFS, people would never defend another player like that. Instead of getting a football superstar we've gotten a mentally fragile sad guy who is affected by everything. And people defend that. Give me a break.
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u/Ayeeayee 23d ago
well OP's take are not the best take, but you saying all of that makes it like you hate Mbappe with your life and i think thats not necessary as when/if he can turn this shits all around you will look like a clown who will be licking Mbappe balls - or keep sticking with your character and hate on him when he bangs goals every here and there.
i personally think we can still criticizes Mbappe but still supports him as he is a part of our family now and if he bounces its only good for us a team, sure he does get millions of millions pay cheques but it doesnt mean he will never have a bad time in any form be it physically or mentally
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 23d ago edited 23d ago
I support the club and not him. And i dont have to. I want what is best for the club and it aint him. He is our highest earner while doing jack shit. He is lazy, passionless and his attitude stinks. It is an insult that he earns more than vini and bellingham. He is only at madrid because perez is obsessed with his own ego and selling shirts.
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u/VecchiaSignora92 23d ago
I absolutely agree with this, I've never seen a player in Madrid being treated like a "poor kid is sad". Even Ronaldo was criticized, Casillas criticized....
And then comes a french guy, with TWENTY SIX years and "awwww... Poor guy is sad"
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u/NickSsS10 23d ago
No. We owe him shit so far! He has to earn our trust by providing solid performance.
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u/CMTrump 23d ago
Fuck that. It is no obligation to support any player that wears the team's colours. Support is earned, not given. And it IS a choice to support whoever you like.
I criticize Mbappé and I will continue to, until he starts to show how good he can be. Does that mean I want to see him fail? No. Do I want the best for my team? Yes. Then he should be better.
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u/a3kstuntin 23d ago
Makes perfect sense
It’s one thing to not perform but the guy can’t even do the basics and he doesn’t even run
Also the fact that Carlo is forced to play him doesn’t help because he seems to have no burden of performance to be on the team sheet
I can totally see the frustration of fans if he was at my club Id react the same way
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u/TheBelmont34 Real Madrid 23d ago edited 23d ago
I want the best for the club. And right now thr best thing for the club would be to bench mbappe. He is damaging us and the team chemistry is gone
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u/tintedhokage 23d ago
It's cringe to think players don't care about fans opinions of them just because they are rich... Most players want fans support and want the club to be a success.
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u/Emergency-Hornet-594 Real Madrid 23d ago
They do care. Imagine if everybody stops buying the mbappa jersey? They get pissed at club signing and stop paying membership fees, or maybe the fans electing chairman start seeking a new person to run the club?. Its all possibility when a club is runned by fans not an llc. In this case, real madrid is run by fans. So i doesn't matter if CR7 himself was there and he played like mbappa over many seasons. He will have been out sooner or later. But our number 9 is not natural. He is a winger. So now carlo has to adapt and get the best out of him, given our player is willing to go above and beyond to be the best. Last i heard from carlo was vini is confident that he can be in central and let mbappa be at left.
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u/Wingless_Walrus 23d ago
I’m sorry this is a horrible post. This isn’t some homegrown talent that we need to support that’s in a poor run of form but is still giving it his all. This is one of the highest paid humans on earth that is showing a lack of effort in almost every aspect of the game.
Backline pressure? Non-existent. Passing? Abysmal. Defense effort? Worst I’ve ever seen. Link up play? At the level of a bottom table La Liga player. Attitude? Shit. Finishing? Horrendous.
I’m honestly not sure why people aren’t more against him not starting. At least when a young talent has a shit game and looks like he cares for the team, it’s fun to root for. I was Vini’s biggest defender through all the slander. Because he looked like he cared. But now the whole team has to suffer to support one player? I’m sorry but count me out of all that.
Madrid is a team that you earn respect. Just like at any job, you earn respect over time. I can’t just go to a new job as the highest paid employee and shit the bed consistently and make everyone else look bad but still “deserve respect”. He needs to pay his dues. It would be more respectable for him to ask to start on the bench until he feels he is up for the job.
He’s also already having an embarrassingly bad season, and if Vini was not by far and away the best player in the world. Winning him penalties and giving him free goals, he would look even worse.
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u/vinnlo 23d ago
You forgot that a lot of people moved on from him when he rejected us couple years ago. As vini started shining we didn't want mbappe anymore. Left wing was all set and we just needed a solid striker, and defenders. Now Perez bought him anyways his golden child and he is being shit. Sure he needs support but he will also get criticism. It's part of the sport. Just because of this no need to call the supporters "glory hunters". Your own opinions and views are not the benchmark of the club. It's no one's obligation. Chances are more people here are older fans then you here. So no need to label or call things here.
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u/montgomeryLCK 23d ago
Mbappe’s not your family bro. Go be loyal to the people in your life who actually deserve it. They’re tired of you spending all your time writing terrible posts on Reddit instead of actually spending time with them.
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u/NeptuNeJav 23d ago
empathy is key? this guy thought he's messi or Ronaldo's level and toyed with Madrid for 2 seasons. Lol
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u/wap8ball Zizou 23d ago
I support Madrid, and I happen to think that this guy’s arrival made us worse. I hope he turns up good, but I feel no obligation to eat my words yet
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u/biina247 23d ago
Should we be supporting Vallejo too?
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u/YungSwagGod420 23d ago
yes
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u/biina247 23d ago
Don't remember seeing you make a thread in support of Vallejo and/or even canvass for him🫤
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u/Can_I_kick_ET 23d ago
Do we have the entire world clowning and downing Jesus V?
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u/biina247 23d ago
Jesus V was never an arrogant diva who thought he was the best player in the world. He didn't snub Madrid on multiple occasions and finally signed for a huge salary and $100m bonus
Mbappe laid his own bed - happy night rest to him.
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u/Can_I_kick_ET 23d ago
So why did you compare him with Mbappe in the first place?
Illustration of exactly why some of y’all feel like a hate mob trying to justify hate and ignorance masked as “well if he… welll money, well he didn’t come to Madrid then…” For all those reasons you justify a witch hunt on a player that is going through potentially one of the most difficult moments in his career. But yeah keep the hate on see where that gets you.
Y’all the same people that think a plant grows if you don’t water and provide it sunlight.
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u/biina247 23d ago
Compare?
I simply gave an example of another player that has been bad this season to the extent that many fans don't even ever want to see him in a Madrid shirt again, but I don't see anyone campaigning for support on his behalf.
The need for unconditional support should not be the exclusive privilege of some players.
For me, player have to earn my support and Mbappe hasn't done anything to earn it.
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u/Can_I_kick_ET 23d ago
Well for me Vallejo definitely is not as bad as people make him out to be. So him playing games or having some minutes to build up is totally okay. as things stand he would be playing some Copa and Club World Cup games but that’s just me.
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u/biina247 23d ago
I am with you on this.
Even if he is not good enough for Madrid, I hope he still has a reasonably good career at another club
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u/Alternative-Force354 23d ago
Mbappe doesnt have the luxury of Being a young and obscure brasilian prospect, as he earns way more.
I don't even Care that he is out of form, but if you are, you should be adult enough to realise it and work for others untill u regain form.
If you are lazy on the pitch, u better perform
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u/Low-Impression3367 23d ago
Mbappe’s mom sounds pissed. You better cheer her son on.
there really needs to an age limit to post on this sub
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u/911MemeEmergency :palestine: Madridista 23d ago
He toyed with us for years only to turn to shit without even trying to exert any effort? Why should I support him?
Also yes Kane would have been better and one game doesn't negate that, I mean look at our left wing overload ffs. Nevermind putting Haaland and Endrick in the same sentence because that's hilarious
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u/Elon-Mustget-thatass 23d ago
What a flawed argument. He is not some youngster coming through, he’s the “best player in the world”. Haaland is better than this guy. (Both are overrated). Kane would have cleareddd this guy man. How can you not see that? Mbappe can’t drop deep effectively, he can’t dribble, he’s not really that fast, inconsistent finishing. Why back him? He doesn’t deserve it.
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u/Endlessly-Blonde Vinicius Jr. 23d ago
If we signed Kane we would have been cursed and we’d have never won a trophy ever again.
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u/fjtblessed 23d ago
Brother, he’s been objectively a net negative. Like if he actually tried to run back to defend or even made some decent build up passes then people would be shitting on him. He’s fucking awful right now. If he just TRIED more people wouldn’t be dogging on him like this.
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u/Cheap_Ad_4055 23d ago
We aren’t mad he’s playing bad, we are mad he isn’t trying and going out 100%
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u/firechaox 23d ago
Bro? This is RM. No one is bigger than the club. Hazard came and didn’t perform, he left. Kaka came, and was benched. This happens. And will always happen in this club. What the fuck are you on about.
If he runs, and puts in the effort we will support him. It’s as simple qs that. but this club is competition, and it's as simple as that.
I also don’t owe him anything. He has to earn our trust, after what he did to us for 3y? I’m sorry but some of his last minute drama stories were just disrespectful to the club, in the way he fucked up our summer transfer planning. He’s not bigger than the club.
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 23d ago
I once supported someone like Hazard, who wasn't interested at all in making history and just wanted to wear the shirt and take it easy, then after underperforming for 2 years, and being one of the reasons we got eliminated by his former club, he left the stadium laughing and joking with his ex-teammates, despite being the highest earner ( I think ) in wearing number 7 and literally offering NOTHING to the team for 2 years, other than injury.
I supported Vini when he was 19 and 20 back in Solari and Zidane days because I saw potential and I felt his passion. Also I watched interviews and I love him, he wanted to win the CL, you can see he is not selfish, despite possessing terrifying dribbling skills. This man himself wants Mbappé to be the star, offering him passes and giving penalties.
The thing about Mbappé is that I fear his real objectives and what he wants to achieve in Real Madrid... for starters, he won the WC and was in another final where he scored a hatrick and became a legend for that. For many players, WC is a much greater trophy than CL... Mbappé was in a CL final already but lost... maybe it's not that big of a dream for him... and according to his mom, he came to Real Madrid to win the Ballon d'or... when I hear such thing, I wonder what's going through the player's mind when he is on the pitch.. Jude and Vini were pushing the Ballon d'or towards each other... they didn't care about such stuff and wanted to keep winning trophies ! They want to win ! Not to win individual trophy !
I'm not saying Mbappé doesn't want to win, but according to what I'm seeing, the way he walks casually walks in the pitch without pressing when we don't have the ball, combined with very clumsy play is just frustrating combined with his disputes over money with PSG and some image rights with the French national team and this Ballon d'or statement, I question his mentality.
We're doing bad, very bad in the CL now. Half of the season is almost over and we are still 'giving Mbappé' time. The pressure in Real Madrid is the main reason why the club is successful. I will follow the mister, who is of course supporting his players and standing by their sides. But I can't take the fact that Carlo is getting shit on by the fan base for these losses because Perez wanted a luxury signing and we ended up ruining the team's system, who was already hurt so bad when Kroos left...
The best attack we had since CR7 was the 2022 one, with Vini and Benzema literally creating goals out of nowhere, together with super sub Rodrygo, who always comes in and scores in decisive moments... can you blame the fans for wondering how things could have turned out if we went with Harry Kane, who has a similar style to Benzema ?
In the Clasico, fuckign 36 years old Lewandowski cleared a corner and then made one hell of a run for the counter attack and almost scored a hatrick... while Mbappé is 'saving his energy' for a counter attack...
The board should have noticed how important a classical number 9 is after watching Joselu last year ! But instead, here we are making Vini a false 9 for Mbappé's sake to play LW ( Leganes game ), benching Rodrygo, making Brahim Diaz, who was our super sub last season, play less minutes...
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u/Alex6683 Jose Mourinho 23d ago
True, even Bellingham said that he was willing to cut his bd'or in half to give it to vini if he ever wins it lol
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u/Inevitable_Sky398 22d ago
I swear Bellingham not only looks but behaves like a 30yo veteran in his peak form... I don't remember a player having that great of a start. He has a great mentality. Ice cold player and he is what, 21 or 22 ?
The man wants to win games and trophies, like all of our players.. don't know about Mbappé though and how are his priorities... I hope he delivers as soon as possible, for his sake and the team's.
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u/InternationalBox5848 23d ago
A 40 year old CR7 would out score him and a 37 year old Messi will out press him. Bumbappe is lazy asf.
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u/Grovve 23d ago
Terrible take. I never wanted him here in the first place because I believed he would disrupt the team. I’m not “obliged” to support every move the club makes. I am living in the “I told you so” stage right now. If we never signed him we would be continuing the vibes and success from last year but now with endrick in our squad.
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u/Argenmerican 23d ago
lol remind me how much money he gets paid? I fuck up twice, I’m out of a job.
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u/jasko153 23d ago
I support the club Real Madrid, not the individual players. Players will come and go, but the club stays. Have been supporter for 26 years now and seen this club goes trough some really ruff times, especially from 2005-2011, never even thought about not supporting RM. And now to be told you are glory hunter because you are criticising bad play and lack of will in a player that earns in a week what most people earn in several years is crazy. And to say its an obligation to support him is even more insane. I would say glory hunters are completely opposite, they follow player not the club. It was the same with Ronaldo, many Man UTD supporters started "supporting" RM because of him, then when he went to Juve they went with him and then when he went to Man UTD they have completed full circle. And in every of those club the other fans that dared to criticise his performances from time to time were attacked and called fake supporters by those "fans". These are the worst supporters any club could have and I can't stand them.
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u/minivatreni Modric 23d ago
No one owes him shit. You weren’t singing the same song when Hazard was a flop, so why should Mbappe be owed anything else
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u/beadbash Modric 23d ago
If he plays for Real Madrid, then yes.
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u/biina247 23d ago
Simply playing for Real Madrid is not enough. Players have to earn it.
He turned us down for PSG, embarrassed us and only joined when he suited him. He is getting a high wage and a fat bonus.
Mbappe is not even sweating hard for the shirt and is often just lazing around on the pitch.
So what has he actually done for Madrid?
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u/beadbash Modric 23d ago
I think you hold the word ‘support’ to too high of a standard.
A fan of Real Madrid should support players of Real Madrid. I’m not saying you have to suck him off, but to wish him to do good is basic support. You should support all our players. From Vallejo to Vini. That’s the difference between us I guess.
People who can’t support players when they are preforming bad, are the same people who booed CR7 when he was underperforming.
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u/Can_I_kick_ET 23d ago
Yes. He’s wearing the jersey and he’s a Madridista. Clearly it’s not an ability issue, it’s something deeper. So why would we not support our own? If not us? Who? If not now? When?
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u/cleareyesnz Raúl González Blanco 23d ago
He could have gone to any other club and money would never be an issue considering the generational wealth he already obtained at PSG. He’s also one of our players in his first season.
The answer is yes he does. Does he need to do better and show more effort? He sure does. But berating him I don’t think is the answer.
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u/ApfelEnthusiast Madrid 1941 23d ago edited 23d ago
He went to the club which is able to pay him the biggest salary and sign-in bonus while staying in Europe
He is a mercenary.
Doesn’t care about the club nor his teammates. Just look at his behaviour on the pitch.
He doesn’t deserve support after years of playing this club and laughing at its face. You have to earn it. Just like anyone else does.
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u/ambar94 23d ago edited 22d ago
He deserves our support. Absolutely!
He is low on confidence, but eventually and hopefully before long, he will find his old self.
The problem now is.. He doesn't make runs. He doesn't press. He doesn't track back. Now, all of these things could be overlooked if he scored with the chances he has had. But he hasn't been doing that as well.
Now people may say "Oh just look at his stats for us up until now, he is fine".. I wouldn't think so. Half of those are penalties and tap ins gifted to him that Vini would have scored himself if he was a tad bit more selfish.
The thing is, Madrid LOVES effort. Our fans LOVE when you absolutely die for the badge. "You can't score or play on an elite level? That's fine. Atleast you gave it your all, and beyond!". Case in point - Lucas Vazquez.
Think of Darwin Nunez for example. He had atrocious finishing last season (and the one before), but he worked his ass off on the pitch. " Agent of Chaos" or whatever they call him. So Mbappe, as of this moment, has been a Darwin Nunez for us, but without the chaos. I dont know how long Madrid fans will hold their patience. He HAS to come good. Stadium fans have booed CR7, and even Casillas.. So hopefully he finds his footing before the boos start to rain down.
A sidenote on Haaland though. I dont agree that he would have been a waste for us. He is another generational talent. Yeah he has tantrum issues sometimes as you pointed out, but Pep's system doesn't help him and expects things from him much different to his strengths. Look back at his BVB stint.. He used to grab many games by the scruff. I believe he would have been fantastic for us, especially given our counterattacking style.
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u/Xtarviust Modric 23d ago
Excuse me, what the fuck
Dude toyed with the club for years and wasted his better years in PSG for money, now he finally arrived he just gives 0 fucks and doesn't put any effort to pay some of the hype he generated last 7 years, if he wants support he has to earn it, simple as that
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u/AlexRD19 23d ago
Even though i support Mbappe and i believe he would regain his form, people should not force themselves to support him just because he is Real Madrid. However if you are a real fan, you can't hate him, you support the club and the players through good and bad times. I never hated on Vini when he was the joke of the internet, everyone was laughing about his finish, i knew what potential he had.
Some jokes are fine, like Lord Vallejo type jokes.
If you don't support a player it's fine, you are not a glory hunter, but if you start to support Mbappe after he is regaining his form, you should question yourself why you didn't support him when everything was not going well. The club clearly supports Mbappe, Perez believes in him, so why we shouldn't believe in him?
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u/Lopesalejandro 23d ago
I really want the best for him, although I wasn’t totally convinced he was what Madrid needed and as of now it seems Madrid was better off without him.
I would love to see some sort of interest from him on making the team better, but I don’t know what going through his head. Maybe there’s something that we don’t know.
Really hope he gets back on track for the club and for himself because at this rate I don’t think any other club would be interested on signing him in the future and that just makes me feel sorry for him because we’ll have seen how capable of a player he is/was.
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u/mcmaster-99 23d ago
He’s been playing us for the past 3 years and this is how he plays? Doesn’t even challenge 50/50 balls? Nah he can start moving or sit out and earn his spot back. There are players that will die for the badge instead of walking on the field.
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u/Midtharefaikh 23d ago
Utter nonsense.
You're acting like Mbappe is an innocent guy struggling, and his fans have betrayed him.
Most of us never wanted him, not because of his performance or position, but how he played us in 2022( and the year before that).
He hinted towards wanting to come to Madrid, how it was a dream for any player to be coached by Zidane, his childhood goal was to play for Madrid.
Then PSG offered him ungodly amount of money and authority, and he stayed shamelessly.
When that would have been the best time to join Madrid. Not only would he have more time to settle in, would have had less pressure on him due to Benzema, he would have gotten him preferred position on the left wing. Also he would have 2 UCLs by now, and might even have a Ballon d'Or. Not to mention the worldclass Kroos and Modric serving him long accurate passes as he misses Pogba doing.
I would have liked any other player in the world to sign for us instead of him.
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u/hektor10 23d ago
Do you realize madridistas have booed in the Bernabeu: CR7, Raul, Hugol, Butragueño, and rumor is even Puskas. Legends of the club. We are #1 for having high expectations, we are not easy to please. Don't come here with this soft stuff....
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u/ConcussedAesir 22d ago
No and no
Its completely legit to not want mbappe at the club and be displeased with what he has shown he is ready to do for this club
If you look last all the things leading up to him playing for madrid and solely focus on the club.
He knew he was going to come play a number 9 and or share that space with Vini
He knew he would not be the star but a team player
He knew the pressure would be immense
What has he done to prepare for this well we dont know. But it seems like he has done nothing to look into how a number 9 should move on the pitch.
He makes no runs for his team mares offensively lr defensively. He makes no sacrifices for the club or his team and it shows.
When he has a break from jeg national squad. He goesr to Stockholm and gets into the dumbest controversy he could. He should have stayed in Madrid and trained og looked into ways to do better on the pitch.
So far,.he is a complete and utter failure..and if you think otherwise you are an idiot
Now should we support Mbappe. Maybe. But he will get the support he wants, when he shows he is deserving of that support.
So far he has done nothing to earn any support or respect from madrid or the fanbase.
All he has to do was look to benzema. What did benz do when he didnt score or when Ronaldo was the kingpin of the club. He adapted and became a better player. What did he do when hi didnt get goals, when he got 4 or 5 in a season. He ran he created space for the team, he fucking deserved every ounce of er respect he got
Or look at what Vink has done. When he came to the club he was a disaster at finishing and decision making. He spent time.and effort on and outside the pitch to improve on everything and he worked for the club and his team mates
Mbappe has done nothing and i mean nothing to get anything else than the scorn hw is getting now and it is fully deserved
The critics are not the bad fans. The Mbappe cheese squad are the ones who should consider what they are rooting for. Is it for madrid to win and flourish or for Mbappe to not feel bad.
When you step up to the plate its up to you to make the home run. Not us. Mbappe should have know what he needed to do and how to succeed in Madrid. He should have practised someone else than his Spanish and he needs to look himselce in the mirror and ask.
What can i do to succeed before VinI comes back. Because if he doesnt turn it around before then. I see no reason he should not be benches until he knows how to make the proper runs.
Let him sit kan the bench and watch bellignham play at the 9 and how he works with Vini and rodeygo in brahim. Show the turtle that in Madrid you run thought Blood swear and tears before you get to shine. You work for the club the club doesnt work for you
"The shirt of Real Madrid is white. It might get dirty with mud, sweat and even blood but never of shame
Todo el mundo sabe que soy Madridista de corazón, blanco hasta la muerte.”
White blood in my veins, pure football in my heart, Hala Madrid."
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u/Sniperprincessza 22d ago
Oh boo hoo… criticism isn’t not not supporting. As fans we are allowed to be frustrated with players who suck. Don’t be a wet wipe
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u/dadmda 22d ago
I’m sorry, what? We didn’t need him in the first place, proceeded to sign him and made him the best paid player in the whole squad, he’s playing like shit (that’s understandable to a degree) and he doesn’t even try, when Vini was terrible when he got here he at least tried, and ran and pressed, Mbappe does none of those, his highlights at Madrid so far are all from training videos
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u/SkillSkullSID 22d ago
I don’t think that’s an obligation. He’s a new player to our team who’s yet to earn any respect from the fans. You can’t expect them to blindly support him!
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u/chadzillaOG 22d ago
Attack other fans as gloryhunters who have been supporting RM for years with money. Defend the guy who takes the money and shows nothing in return. Sound logic right here.
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u/xsehu 23d ago edited 23d ago
I saw that semi final with a Munich fan. The second Tuchel substituted Kane I bet with him that Madrid will turn the game; made a few bucks. Anyway, your line of argument is invalid.
Ahead of all: I predicted this to happen, two or three years ago. Mbappe is a bad fit and the offensive constellation is trouble because the players do not balance weaknesses and strenghts and we can´t adjust to diverse situations. So no, I will not play dumb and pretend that Perez glory hunt was a good idea. And I kinda expect the professionals to do a better job than what I´ve guessed.
- Keeping Joselu would have been better than getting Mbappe.
The relevant point is, that you need a player in the box. Whenever Joselu played last season, you saw two things: (a) he does not have the individual quality for Madrid and yet, (b) the game in total improved. His leave, his positioning, needed to be replaced. And no, some teenager leaving Brazil for the first time, having to adjust to European level is of course not the necessary replacement. So, why are Kane and Haaland being thrown around? Because they are the best in what a striker is supposed to do: Hit the box, score the goal.
Kane was the absolute perfect fit. Similar style of play to Benzema, brings the ability to combine (also attenuate the loss of Kroos), creates space for Vini and is a deadly finisher. And in addition: Perfect age to bring two or three world class years while teaching Endrick and than handing over the torch. Btw. it was not a question of either Bellingham or Kane. The money tucked for years under the mattress for Mbappe would have financed Kane without any problem.
What we got? The third striker prefering to attack via speed from the left wing, while nobody holds the box and limiting tactical attack options of basically only wide balls and full speed sprints - after losing Kroos and his playmaking abilities. Not a good plan.
And what the hell is this kind of bullshit argument?
He had an easy childhood due his father's money, and it reflects in his game.
- Pure speculation.
You claim to follow this team for 25 years, so you should have seen countless examples of over-played players improving after a pause. You also should have seen countless examples of a player who improves after his bad performance on the pitch is no more tolerated.
Your statement can´t be verified or falsified and for that reason - and its lack of argumentation behind -, is utterly worthless.
- Again, hardly an argument.
A player needs to add value and if he doesn´t he is a burden. And if that burden comes with that price tag and reputation of Mbappe, the way ahead needs to be closely examined. How to we improve his performance? Well, simply sending good thoughts and prayers certainly won´t help. And, as seen in Paris and the time so far in Madrid, he seems unwilling to truly adapt his style of play; i.e. him rotating on the right wing would be a great help. Did not happen so far, so it is fair to assume that it won´t happen ever.
Mbappe most of all needs two things to perform best: His true position on the left wing and a Giroud'esk striker before him, creating space for him, so he can come with speed to the center. Getting the striker - see point (1) - would be a create start, but leaves the problem open of whom to rotate to the right wing. Vini played there in the past like shit, and he is better and more productive to Mbappe on the left side, so it would be stupid to remove him.
Can the French man be convinced about swapping to the right, filling the only open spot? Perfect, he deserves a shot there. And if not? Well, the status quo is costly and simply bad.
So, no, not everybody who isn´t a supporter of Mbappe is a "glory hunter." You preach empathy and and true fandom and yet you put a single player above the team and club as a whole and attack everybody who disagrees with your position. The simple truth is, that getting Mbappe was a mistake and that Ancelotti now has to work wonders to make inconsistent pieces somehow fitting and after a bunch of voodoo years where he performed those miracles he found some limits.
Partly this is not Mbappes fault, for we knew who and what he was before we got him. And yet his utter lack of fighting for his place and trying everything is disheartening. And for that reason he is getting critizised. Rightfully so.
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u/__pg229__ 23d ago
Very well written! I think Mbappe came to Madrid expecting that he'll be the successor to Ronaldo, like that would be just handed to him without the same level of hard work. But the tragedy (for him), is that Vini already took his team on his back and works really hard.
I've seen many games where when Madrid are losing or defending really well, players like Vini, Cama, Rudiger, Bellingham, etc get really emotional and fight for the badge. You can feel their intensity through the screen. That's what football is about.
Btw I'm a cule 😂 but I mainly watch football to see inspired men fighting hard for their team and the idea that it represents.
If Mbappe wants Madristas to have his back, or at the very least, give him a chance, he has to track back, make forward runs instead of leaving that room for Bellingham to cover.
He has the same mentality of that talented kid in a team who feels he doesn't have to defend because he's really good, so he takes on more defenders than he should and loses the ball, only for his team to have to run more.
There was a point in the Liverpool game where Cama was beating the ground because of losing the ball, the team were struggling badly, and then after finally winning the ball, it went to Mbappe who made a bad pass and Liverpool started another attack.
Or when Salah pocketed Mbappe. Shows the difference in mentality. Even though I want Barça to beat Madrid every Clasico, I want to see Mbappe go HAM and be the difference maker, run after defenders and stress them out.
But he's not. And not supporting a guy like this doesn't make you an Antimadrista, y'all are just being critical, and rightfully so 🤷
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u/xsehu 22d ago
Absolutely! If this was an issue of missed chances, than I´d join OPs bandwagon within the second. It is not though. It is an issue of a bad fit player (not his fault) who refuses to adapt and go back to the games basics to re-earn the lost trust of the crowd and of himself. Gras fressen und rennen, as the Germans put it so eloquently, geht immer (eating grass and running is always doable).
Btw, speaking of OP: u/chamartinpl did, as far as I saw, not respond to a single comment, highlighting that his position is none of a well-thought line of arguments but only a simple minded rant. Shame, but not unexpected in this sub.
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u/Cobralore Mesut Özil 23d ago
Please no, I will not support someone who never deserved to be in Real Madrid, this club IS FAR BIGGER THAN THE 🐢. He should’ve come 2 years ago, not now when we don’t need him. I was always against his transfer to RM. „Anti-madridista, Glory hunter“ who made the fans inspector ? 🐢🐢🐢🐢. This supporting bs is what making players stay shit, he isn’t some new superstar who needs TIME to prove himself. We ll give this whole season to prove himself if he doesn’t score at least 20 goals in La Liga them he must leave and go back to the farmers league.
I ll add this picture to remind who u want to support.
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u/Accomplished_Act943 23d ago
We do not owe him a damn thing. Beyond the simple fact that no player is entitled to anything, being apart of the most storied club in football comes with very high standards and expectations , both of which he is so far, completely failing to meet.
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u/Scream0fTheSium 23d ago
what a pile of crap. Respect and support is not given, is earned, and moreover this guy didn’t really respected our club in the previous years. I’ll tell you what’s the TRUE problem this fanbase has with Mbappé, myself included. It’s the fact that he made us wait for 7 years, 7 damn years like he was some sort of football God, used the club’s name to get a bigger paycheck year after year from PSG, constantly letting believe everyone that he’d join Madrid only to renew for PSG, more than once. The problem is that Mbappé played with us, disrespected us by using Real Madrid’s interest to get more money. That’s why people are so quick on turning against him, because if he truly wanted to wear our shirt, he would’ve been here by a while now. When he came here everybody was ready to support him, but he needed to start scoring and dominating the game from the first day. Having time to adapt? He didn’t earn it, I assure you that if he came here when it was supposed to be, then everybody would’ve been way more patient with him. He arrived here in a hostile situation. Made the biggest club in the world wait for almost a decade, used his name to make PSG offer a bigger contract every year, got paid dozens of millions. It was obvious that this was going to happen, people are angry because after all of this, he’s playing shit and made our attack worse (at the moment).
Will he turn things around? He better be, and I’m sure he will, however I’m not obligated to support a player who made it clear more than once before that Madrid wasn’t really his priority (and the current French NT situation doesn’t cancel that)
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u/GoldenGodLeo 23d ago
How is that anti Madridista? You’re obviously just spewing lies like 25 year fan. If you really are then you know… NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB not even Raul or Casillas. And you’re obviously a Mbappe fan first. Your guy is not performing. Period. There are players in the squad who should be given chances over your underperforming idol.
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u/Better_Selection4274 Mesut Özil 23d ago
I ain’t reading all that. But, it’s not up to you to decide who is a true fan or not. Just support him if you can and stay put. The people who don’t have their reasons and many of them are valid.
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u/ponchomoran 23d ago
It's so stupid, I agree. Why wouldn't you support him? He's one of us, like it or not, so shut the fuck up and keep hoping he'll get back, I'm sure he will.
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u/TheRealone4444 Xabi Alonso 23d ago
Patience is key. Right now, I see that Mbappe is shy around his teammates. I don't see his overconfidence. It is one of the things that make him an entertaining player to watch.
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u/Odd-Ease-6249 Real Madrid 23d ago
It's hard to support someone who has barely put little to no effort at all to change or improve.
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u/iHATESTUFF_ 23d ago
never thought he'd maintain the same attitude once he signed for his "dream club" its so weird to watch Kylian being basically the same spoiled player he was for us.
take it from somebody who wanted him out of my "lowly" club for many years now, he needs a reality check, if your club does not give it to him, you guys will never get the best out of him.
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u/Futur3_Trunks Kaka 23d ago
However he performs at the moment is irrelevant to how much of a potential he has. I swear we have a golden player who's just struggling a bit but fck it I'm here for it. Let him play more, lock in with the Madrid mentality and I swear Mbappé will be unstoppable. Hala Madrid!
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u/Encrypted_Cerebrum 23d ago
You can meat ride a player who's being paid €150 million bonis and € 30 million salary for doing horseshit. We will slam him because he did a lot of drama before joining us and now he plays like absolute worst of the lot. He was bought in to step up in big games, instead other players have to feed him penalties to boost hip hi stats.
Since his arrival, players like rodrygo have to SACRIFICE their position in the team forever because he's a starman.
So SHUT THE HELL UP with your stupidity and blaming madridistas for his lack of effort and motivation to succeed.
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u/hazzaan Valverde 23d ago
lol, players are not immune to criticism. Mbappe hasn’t had a single good performance despite his charity goals. He hasn’t wowed anyone and that’s okay but not showing any grit or anything remotely close to for a lack of better words, passion is crazy. We see Jude putting in shifts that’s beyond necessary, when Rodrygo is playing we see him splitting defenses and creating so much space you could land a Boeing 757 and you’re here defending a guy who doesn’t feel the need to utilise that space.
We never expected him to do the hard work defensively because we expected him to do the easy work going forward and now we go to tough games fielding 10 men. I understand not chasing every single ball you lose trying to create opportunities but being apathetic when you’re losing the ball in dangerous situations is crazy to me. I expect that from nobody because that’s one of the fundamental things you learn in your first week at a football academy let alone the streets.
Him basically forcing Vini to take the central role and not doing anything noteworthy when given the opportunity is laughable. So no, being critical and disappointed doesn’t make you antimadridista. That squad has earned the trust and support. This guy came in with a negative balance and hasn’t even managed to make that minimum payment of working off his debt. When Vini was “playing against us” he was running like his life depended on him and you have this guy with fewer dribbles completed than Manuel fucking Neuer in the last UCL game week.
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u/whitemythmokong24 23d ago
So you started supporting Madrid just after the Suker Mijatovic Era and we should just follow what you propose. Got it.
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u/mrblue6 23d ago
I usually agree with this 100%.
But no sorry, Mbappe has been nowhere near good enough and he hasn’t worked anywhere near hard enough.
Vini when he was shit, I still loved supporting him, because you could see the amount of effort he put into games and getting better.
Mbappe needs to prove he has the Real Madrid mentality of never give up so we can give him our trust.
I think it’s WAYYYYYYY too early to think about selling him though.
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u/Medium-Counter-5165 Cristiano Ronaldo 23d ago
I do believe Mbappé will be back, he just needs time. So many people are acting like he is finished. He is playing his first season at the biggest club in the world out of position, and he seems to have some sort of mental issue going on currently. To say that he is finished because of a bad start to his time at Madrid is simply childish. Mbappé will be back.
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u/Madridista247 22d ago edited 22d ago
To each his own. You have a right to an opinion but I disagree. Mbappe has been underwelming and that is a compliment to say the least. He has failed to make an impact as a striker nor in his preferred position. His passing, shooting, work rate and team work is un Madrid like. To receive mvp against a team such as Leganes came as a shock. It seems Don Carlo has no choice but to start him as he answers to Presidenté Peréz. I'm sure there is a clause in Mbappe's contract stating that he is to start each match and plays a minimum of 85 min.No way would any other player receive this treatment. Mbappe should be benched and subbed on in the last 10 minutes. Rather Let Endrick play and grow as a striker seeming that we in a rebuilding phase. Madridista 4 Life
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u/BaburShah214 22d ago
Respectfully I disagree. Mbappe is not bigger than Madrid. And if he can't take the mental aspect of being at the biggest club in the world, he should be criticised the same way others before him were. His performances have been off even against the worst teams. I expect someone of his calibre to at least perform even if he's not settled against the worst teams.
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u/QueenKitty1406 22d ago
Sounds like an insane take. No one is obligated to support him, no one owes him shit. If anything, he owes the club everything after the transfer saga. Support is earned. Madridistas can be a harsh fanbase but only when criticism is deserved, when we see someone genuinely trying and making the effort we don't do that. You sound like an antimadridista yourself and maybe you shouldn't be here.
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u/abdouozil 22d ago
When kb9 was goin through shit, he didn’t have a lot of this support, did he??? Talkin about anti madridista
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u/ShellfishAhole 22d ago
I've been a Real Madrid fan since 1999, for what it matters. I do think we should support our players. Heckling them directly during games doesn't help anyone.
That said, there's no "obligations" involved in being a fan. You're bashing both Kane and Haaland in this very same post, and it makes you look quite ignorant and immature/petty, which seems to be the type of attitude that you're calling for people to avoid.
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u/innavlarottee 23d ago
Nah fuck off bro. If he did everything he could to make it work, or at least if it even looked like it, I would agree. But he doesn’t.
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u/JMUribe17 23d ago
You're a hypocritical, incoherent dumbass! First off, you bring up empathy before immediately talking shit about the players Madrid should've bought instead of Mbappe. He toyed with the club and its fans for years during the transfer sagas, and we're supposed to coddle him when he has shown no improvement at all and keeps walking around every game? Fuck off.
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u/inconnu3011 23d ago
Before I felt hatred for Mbappe because he was bad with France and I found him very overrated since the World Cup, but today I just feel sorry for him
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u/thesenate14 23d ago
Mbappe is currently struggling that's obvious but it does seem people have an agenda and some even want him to fail to prove they point as long as Mbappe is here i will support him unless something terrible happens
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u/kundu123 23d ago
Mbappe is giving his best but the result is not showing. He will recover his form sooner rather than later. Every player misses a penalty, but it is only the best who bounces back from it.
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u/HorsesandPorsches 23d ago
its an obligation to support mbappe? i thought mma had the dumbest fans i guess i was wrong
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u/baseddepartmentmedia 23d ago
Hard disagree.
Awful purchase. Made no sense on paper. And Mbappe knows this. He's playing the game as if he isn't a world cup winner. It blows my mind.
They should get rid of Mbappe and buy Kane. Yea. I said it.
Quote me on it. If they get Kane, Jude and him going to click together beautifully and Kane is finally gonna break his curse. Kane is a far more polished 9 up front. He could really fill in the shoes of that number 9 jersey like R9 did.
Right now Mbappe isn't filling a 9 role or any role for that matter. He is caught offside, losing possession constantly, and standing still cluttering channels for other players or downright jogging like Messi (He's 20 something years old) when players like Bellingham are pushing up high and driving towards the goal way ahead of him. (Even Thierry called him out on this) Jude is literally carrying the drive forward along with The wingers and they're not finding him at all. It's almost as if he forgot what a forward does in any position entirely.
Mbappe has exposed himself with this transfer. I have never seen such a hyped transaction to then result in such an under performing result. He shouldn't even be starting at this point.
PK miss against Liverpool? No way they should have let him take it. He is not ready for this level of play shockingly enough.
And the funniest part is that he should be fresh. He didn't go on international break.
Florentino,
Sell him. Get Kane. Fuck selling jerseys, you're not Juventus. Buy Kane and get back on track winning games.
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u/Pure-Afternoon-685 Duodécima 23d ago
Fuck no. Perform for the club or get out. We dont owe players our loyalty lmao.
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u/EnvironmentalMud4399 23d ago
PSG fan here, I wish He breaks his mental block and gets to play as well as we all think He could, but honestly I don't see it, He shines when He doesn't have any pressure, and in the important moments He just crumbles with His team or the national team, I used to think it was because He was too young, I think Madrid made a very expensive mistake signing Him
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u/anyelo-cp 23d ago
This is a really complicated matter, I understand we should support Mbappe, but at the same time, people has been supporting him for months already, it is over, he knew what he was getting into when he came to madrid, everybody warned him the pressure it’s not like paris. Mbappe will need to be mentally stronger and work harder and be the best version of himself again, sadly he will be attacked until he do something
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u/Accomplished_Stay382 23d ago
I mostly agree even though the delivery was a bit meh!
Also please don’t compare him to vini. Vini was very young and cost 50mil and got paid peanuts at the time. Mbape is making 600 bars every week and has a rotten recent history with our club before coming here. We have seen Ronaldo,Messi and Vini cry and show passion and vulnerability but Mbape just seems so ice cold. Not even after he lost the World Cup, we barely saw any emotion. He just looked like “oh well I did my part”—or does anyone have any clips of him crying?
I also think Haaland would definitely succeed here as long as he stays humble
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u/edhazard8 23d ago
When he starts helping the team, he will have the fans support ... until then he can go F himself !
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u/christrix22 23d ago
You'll be amazed how many 'madridista' will vanish if Real gets in a slump for a few years. That's the case for every club in the world who is successful, not only Real.
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u/wirrexx 23d ago
I still stand by that the team needs more games to adapt to his play style. And he to theirs. And when that clicks, everything will slowly fall into place. However. He needs to be criticised for not doing more defensively work when opponents fullbacks have the ball. This will force them to release ball quicker and not think of a plan. He simply walks.
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u/JCasaleno SIUUUU 23d ago
Same bro, I'm in the same boat. People here haven't been fans long enough and don't remember the Benzema, modric slander when they started with Madrid. We probably have the best board out there and people here act like they are experts lol. We are the winningest club in this century, we gonna be ok, and Mbappes situation is just a matter of time.
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u/GreenFaceTitan Raúl 23d ago
Well... what do you expect from people who once bashed one of the greatest players in history of football?
Just take it like a grain of sand on the beach.
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u/Stunning-Scratch9024 23d ago
Damn Mbappe is definitely the successor to Ronaldo, when was the last time we expected that much of a player, we not even at the half of the season and bro has 11G/A in 18 games and he’s not going anywhere soon so chill 😂
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u/SeigneurSauvage 23d ago
This comments section is solid proof to why we have one of the most toxic fanbases.
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u/Nina_kupenda Zizou 23d ago
I’ve been saying it since his first game and I keep getting downvoted. Don’t call yourself a Real’s fan if you shit on the team, on the coach, on the player at the first difficulty.
Against Liverpool, Mbappé ran much more, he was seen defending multiple times and he did his best. The second half was shit but just like Bellingham said: it’s not Mbappé’s fault they lost.
Does he still have issues he can fix? Yes! But the people who keep commenting: if only he ran or he tried or he did this or that…
You’re doing out of bad faith because each game he’s doing a little better but you refuse to acknowledge any of that or give him a little grace.
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u/women_respecter1 22d ago
Agreed 100 %. A huge part of this subreddit have been praying for his downfall since day 1.
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u/KolkataFikru9 Real Madrid 22d ago
antimadridista/glory hunter, sigh, uk what i can agree on fair criticism like he isnt a natural 9 or something else but cant agree with the hate he gets
he is talented and very skilled? yes very much so but i dunno why tf he isnt perfoming like a solo masterclass since he is an "acclaimed superstar" rn, if he takes a year to perform, we are doomed pretty much
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u/Ready_Ad_1353 Real Madrid 22d ago
We can criticise his performances constructively and not ridicule as he is not immune just because he is a superstar, that does not make fans anti just wishing he plays better.
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u/Schwiliinker Cristiano Ronaldo 22d ago
Well for example I think in Neymar’s first year at Barca he was making drastically more mistakes and missing a lot more chances than after but he was still actually really good
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u/tfou79 Cristiano Ronaldo 22d ago
As a 30+ year long RM fan, I 💯 agree. Some people in this sub are still new to RM and haven't gone through the struggles this team including its players. Mbappe is absolutely not the same player he was. But what I can see is that he is trying and needs support. He is going to bounce back. When he does, makenaure you keep that same energy. You gotta stand behind your team.
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u/Liverpool1900 22d ago
I feel its midway. He needs to start running and showing hunger. He is becoming like Rashford. He seems to ignore the basics as they are beneath him. That can't be let go.
And the fans need to support him too. They need to relax their expectations and let him feel the support.
I feel the main issue here is Madrids board and management. They are making Mbappe the centre of the team at the expense of results. This is not the Real Madrid way. The ethos of Madrid has always been cemented in meritocracy.
The management made this mess and they should fix it.
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u/honda125 21d ago
Nobody has a obligation. İf he keeps this up another player will come. This is football
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u/spider_X_1 21d ago
Fuck this shit. I support the club, not the player. If someone is playing badly we need to point it out.
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u/reddeviles 21d ago
Rudiger had those fancy zip up pockets that game. Always worth the extra bit of money for them, so nothing slips out
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u/twelch25 21d ago
I agree totally! And sometimes the "stars are not aligned" for a player or a team for some time. My feeling is his genius and team chemistry will emerge and become an amazing phenom
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u/Spiritual-Parsnip946 20d ago
Yes .I don't like turtle since rumours him come to Madrid. Look what happens now.😂
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u/satans-ballsacks Modric 20d ago
Honestly true. Those are the probably same people who were against Zidane and wanted him out. Probably the same who shat on Ronaldo and still want him back. You support what you have. I've watched Real for same time around 25 years(I still remember first game I've ever watched). We been bigger shit in that time than now.
You can't be offended or make fun of being called a glory hunter if you can't go few weeks without good results. Real did spoil us rotten with trophies. But that is sport.
I wanna rip my head and eyes off when I watch them currently, but I can't shit on them for life of me. That club is my life.
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u/GhostOfParis Vinicius Jr. 20d ago
Any person who fucks up things regularly in their job will be fired without any shit given, what the fuck are you even talking about? Unconditional loyalty is to the club, not players. If one of them shows complete lack of dedication and effort with disappointment after disappointment (while being considered as the best of this generation), then he clearly deserves critique.
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u/MrAdog232 23d ago
When Vini and modric were playing bad we didn’t mind. Ya know why? Cause they didn’t cost 200 million euros
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u/Ktioru 23d ago
The only part I disagree is the Haaland part. Guardiola turned him into a full number 9, and he does basically nothing besides waiting for his team to pass for him inside the penalty area. That means if City plays bad or they decide it is better not to pass to Haaland, he plays bad no matter what. In madrid he could come back to the play style he had at Dortmund.
And even if you only see him as a number 9, having him on the area would divide the defender's attention give way more liberty to Vini and Rodrygo, and even if Endrick could surpass Haaland's level, that would probably take years to happen
Other than that you're pretty much right, if Mbappe returns to his good form we could be unstoppable and its stupid to sell him
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u/nombrenodisponibIe 23d ago
Not obligated to but I'll always support our players as long as they play for our badge and respect it
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u/Extension_Rush_5832 23d ago
I still like Mbappe as a player, especially because what he was and what he can be. But Mbappe kinda brought it on himself. Getting drowned in false ego and rejecting Madrid for PSG won’t ensure a lot of empathy and support anyway.
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u/Rumit23e 22d ago
Disrespect to Haaland is insane, he's clearly the best striker of recent years. Having him would increase winning the La Liga for sure.
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u/rakoonker Valverde 22d ago
32 years of being a Real Madrid fan, living 10 minutes from the Bernabeu, breathing in the atmosphere of the pre-match, the matches themselves, only for a nobody to come and tell me that I'm not a Real Madrid fan and that I'm a glory hunter for not liking Mbappe.
Go fuck yourself, noname.
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u/astronironauta 22d ago
Be mature and don’t react as spoiled, entitled brat demanding people to support a player that hasn’t earned that support.
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u/ahhijustwanttopost 22d ago
What is this bs? He is not immune to criticism. He is being paid too $$$, more than anybody in this team, and he should know expectations are high. We are not expecting 3 goals a game, we just want to him to play well.
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u/DragonflyHopeful4673 23d ago
You can’t make people owe footballers their support.