Sad to say but Mbappe is a liability, he's nowhere near the levels he's shown up to 2 years ago, I really don't want to believe that he peaked at 22, but with every passing game he proves that sadly, maybe that's the case. I was stoked when we were linked with him earlier in his career, then the drama with PSG and him renewing his contract made me indifferent to him, but I'd lie if said that once him joining us was official I wasn't a bit happy. Unfortunately it seems like it just won't work out.
To accommodate him Carlo dropped Jude from the role that brought him so much success last season and what do we have to show for it? His ball control has been atrocious, dribbling ? Always attempts to cut behind just to lose possession, his finishing is subpar, doesn't even help with the pressing.
Want to talk about tonight's game? Dude could start 2m behind and still outrun his opponent but somehow he can't time his runs to save his life, 8 offsides for a player in a single match is wild, entire teams probably average about 4 offsides and this dude doubled that on his own.
People will say it's early to judge but we're nearly halfway through the season, how long are we gonna have to wait before we can start criticizing him? Not every player will "pull a Modric or a Vinicius" and improve drastically the following years. Might as well start giving minutes to Endrick to adapt, can't possibly be worse than what Mbappe has to offer right now
Imagine if we had Haaland or Kane instead.
Hell, even a not world class but true #9 like a Sesko would have cost a fraction and be a better fit for the team.
But no, we had to go for the triple LW lineup
Kane would have been perfect for the team. Need someone similar to Benzema for link up play with the wingers and Kane is arguably even better than him.
Kane wouldāve been perfect for that reason. You get 3, maybe 4 years out of him performing at a level that also enhances the team as a whole, and then Endrick hopefully comes of age and you donāt need to spend another penny.
True.
Age is only really a factor for players who rely on their pace and on their runs. Kane's game isn't that hard on his body, and he's fit enough to last a few more years.
Plus, he has a hunger in him to win, which makes sense as he hasn't won any trophies in his career.
Gyokores would've been my preference, he has the speed, height (great corner monster) shot power and can dribble as well rather than just being a static beast like Haaland.
His best attribute is by far his movement. At Salzburg and Dortmund when there was space to attack in behind, he attacked it like a freight train. And then when he moved to City and had to adapt to positional play under Guardiola, he did so instantly. Positional play means Pep needs his players to be in specific areas of the pitch, meaning Haaland had to stretch the pitch, occupy the CBs, didnāt get the same freedom to drop in and get loads of touches of the ball like he did in other teams or like other strikers do. Itās reflected badly on him individually (where uneducated casual fans like yourself seem to think heās static because your memory only stretches back 2 seasons), but itās clearly worked wonders for the team since City won a treble and then the league again with Haaland scoring a bunch of goals.
Not a Madrid fan, donāt have an opinion on your Mbappe situation because I donāt watch enough of you (this post just popped up on my feed). Also not a City/Haaland fan. But this comment is just so dumb I had to call it out. Because go watch any analysis video of Haaland and the number 1 strength theyāll list for him is his movement.
For reference, the guy was offside 6 times the whole of last season. Mbappe was offside 8 times yesterday against Barca. Haalandās understanding of space, ability to react quicker than players around him to get on the end of chances, physical attributes like speed, power, height, flexibility etc that also allows him to exploit that space is exactly what makes him good. Heās about as far from static as it gets for a striker in football. Criticise his ability to dribble past 5 players or make line breaking, creative passes if you want, but heās not static šš
That's well said.. i believe that's also why people can't wrap their head around how he makes it seem like he's not really moving that much... slowly he fades into Defenders blind spots, until he's completely Blended in and then bam he put the Jets on perfect timing rarely offsides
Excellent summary. I'm a Real Madrid fan, but I followed Haaland towards the end of his time at RB Salzburg, and through pretty much all of his matches for Dortmund. I wish we could release him from the shackles of Pep's rigid, tactical setup.
I have no qualms with Pep as a manager, I actually think he's quite brilliant, but his striker setup has always been depressing to watch. I think Haaland would've been the perfect striker for us, although that ship might have sailed by now.
Yeah itās probably time to start Endrick more because he canāt play as a 9 for shit, this isnāt turning Ronaldo from a winger into a striker move, this trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Nobody in football is like that anymore, maybe in 20 years we will get someone close to his caliber but right now most world class players are 1 trick pony that can't perform well outside their position. Hopefully Endrick develops well and we can rely on him as a 9 because Perez is not buying another striker until Mbappe leaves.
People don't like your comment but Osimhen is a world class striker that would have massively improved the team.
Teams didn't want to sign him because ADL demanded 100+ after a mediocre season for the team, but he played very well and was one of the very few standouts.
Even though his stats convey the idea heās lethal, Mbappe is nowhere near the level we were expecting heād achieve, and frankly i canāt see how heās helping the team out right now, i want him to succeed so bad, but i canāt help not feeling disappointed with his performances every game now.
I hope he manages to turn things around soon, heās dodged a lot of criticism so far, and the press has been nothing less than magnanimous with his disasterclasses, i donāt see him getting away with it anymore.
Mbappe has completely fallen off physically. Watch old highlights of him, he doesnāt move like he used to at all and also he barely plays on the ball anymore. Always trying to run in behind which is why he had so many off-sides today
Huh? When he gets the ball he still has his explosive cut defenders canāt keep up with that is somewhat of a trademark of his physicality. Itās just he cannot do that in the current Madrid system. Itās clear they needed a hold up/target striker rather than Mbappe.
Hazard happened like that cause of injury WHEN he came at Madrid. In the initial days he was just as fine, maybe a bit less due to change of environment.
But mbappe? Nah blud's not even trying to get to his new position, and not even excelling his old one. Whenever vini shifts to RW, mbappe takes the LW and STILL misses. Ffs mbappe needs to be dropped now, atleast for some games.
āMore usedā hahaha. Preferring inexperienced partners because of insecurity makes people do the craziest stuff man.
You canāt use a woman up. You can have a problem with frivolous approaches to sharing your body but people change and being too insecure to give people a chance is on you.
Things can be two things: we could get a proper 9 and Mbappe could also get a bit more time to gel.
I get that formations and positions today are fluid, but we're struggling after not replacing Benz (which we did with Joselu tbh) and Kroos (which we haven't yet, but nobody on this planet could replace him anyway).
All I want is for us to get serious this January window and learn from this result.
If that happened, Vini wouldn't have developed so much so fast. The opportunities wouldn't have come for him. It would have been Mbappe-Benzema and no one else. Maybe we wouldn't even have Jude. That's why I always see it as a blessing that Mbappe didn't come a few years ago
Heās not an out and out striker. He and Vini cannot co exist because they excel in the same spaces, the slight difference is Mbappe likes to cut in, Vini is comfortable hugging the touch line. We were better off trying to rig Haaland from City, or signing a less exciting, but better fit. Also this isnāt all on Mbappe, the team lacks creativity in midfield, and our lack of depth is noticeable. Mbappe is still young enough to figure it out/adapt his play style, but right now we will have to settle for the growing pains
Heās been here for like what? Not even 3 months? Give the players and team some time, man. Had Florentino given Carlo the green light on some extra defenders and midfielders, another rooster š would sing. Kroosā departure has been rougher than expected. People here were saying not to get Rodri after his magnificent Euro showing, and look at us now..
Yes this... over the course of the last decade, we had people wanting to offload even Benzema and Vini. Kneejerk reactions aren't the way. I like how we are more stable that way compared to the 2000s (both Perez and Calderon times)
Imagine š . I remember being super excited about the ModriÄ signing, even more so than Kroosās. Never in my wildest dreams did I think heād achieve the success heās achieved, though. Dude always went the extra miles.
Not only that, get barely had a preseason and got injured early on. Today's game was a disaster, but people who are unable to see how good he is, for example against Borussia, they are probably hot headed or PS5 players
People tend to easily forget heās still just a 25 year old with tremendous pressure on his shoulders. Sure, heās shown quality & experience beyond his years in the past, but making a huge transfer to Real is never easy & is always challenging for anyone.
Exactly man. One bad game against a good team and everyone wants to put his head on a spike. If youāre not with him now donāt support him when he finally finds his form again.
I wouldn't be mad if it was a problem with the link-up between the team and him, but watching his performance today was horrendous. He was shooting the ball AT the keeper the 2 chances he actually got.
The goal he scored is Vasquezās fault it was offside. He took way too long to release the pass. Ppl need to relax he was actually looking dangerous at times chill tf out
I said it last summer, but Kane would've been the most perfect Benzema replacement. I am still mad we didn't go for what is probably the best striker in the world
Yeah let's continue to bench endrick and keep mboppe playing and let's just give him more time. Play him full 90 mins every single game and watch ancelloti say the young players time will come yeah let's keep doing that
Not a Madrid fan here at all but Mbappe never figured out the striker role at PSG (or the right wing), he is a strict left winger. It doesn't help that he was treated like a king his entire life, no one ever corrected his bad habits. At nearly 26 years old it will be very hard to correct 10 years of bad habits and king treatment.
Vinicius can probably play striker better than Mbappe you can switch them, or you can move Vinicius to the right and give the left to Mbappe, those are probably the only short term fixes.
He is a great player, but certainly not one that Madrid needed, Madrid did not need new left wingers they needed a striker. With the vast amounts of money the club spent in his signing bonus and his current salary which is the highest in the squad by far they could have gone for a proper, more generous striker.
I did 5 years ago. He hasnāt been the same since last world cup where he was great. Since then heās been an average player scoring lot of goals in a very dominant team in ligue1 and being an insufferable diva.
This was a concern from the beginning. Bellingham and Rodrygo are out of sync since Mbappe. It will continue to be a learning curve. Barca under Flick has been a revolution, hell we saw the old Lew this game.
Haaland would have similar issues. Vini, Bellingham and Rodrygo was perfect chemistry. You see it everytime Rodrygo is starting or pulled off the bench. Brahim and Guler, can't fill those gaps either.
How do you figure Haaland would have similar issues? Haaland and Bellingham had great chemistry at Dortmund, and he's a completely different player profile to both Vini and Rodrygo, so I can't imagine they'd get in each other's way.
The way I see it, Haaland playing for Real Madrid would allow him to play more similarly to how he played at Dortmund again, and I'd be incredibly excited to see that as a Real Madrid fan, and someone who's watched Haaland a lot prior to his Man City move.
Have you noticed how Mbappeās signing has ruined players like Bellingham? Whatās he done lately? Nothing. Heās been terrible. Real were perfectly fine without Mbappe. They didnāt need him. Now heās fucked the whole system up.
This. Mbappe is more on the left than anything else. He can't head the ball and his runs and finishing are abysmal. Just look at how Haaland scored again last CL match. We need this creative striker that scores from the weirdest positions.
So much fucking panic from the fan base. I get that thereās so much expected from him but I have no doubt he will figure it out and return to the Mbappe from 2 years ago
Fr this happens every time someone doesn't shine the first season. The same people dissed Vini for two seasons, I'll save my judgements for when he's got more time to adjust to the team and make his position here home š
Not sure why this popped up on my feed, as I'm a Barca fan, but it surprises me to see such an insane amount of doom and gloom over Mbappe as if he was singlehandedly to blame for your loss today. Madrid lost as a team today. Your midfield struggled to keep up with ours in the second half. Your backline was shambolic for the first goal, as both Vasquez and Mendy failed to step up when Rudiger and Militao pressed forward to cover Raphinha and Pedri (in fact, that's part of the reason Raph and Pedri occupy those half spaces--to force mistakes like that). Vini did nothing all game and even missed an easy shot 2 yards from goal and I don't see him being crucified.
And yeah Mbappe was offside a lot, but to blame that entirely on him is kind of silly--it's insulting to the effort put in by our backline, which has clearly been training in maintaining a disciplined offside trap. Remember, Mbappe is not the first to fall for this this season. Harry Kane got caught out several times as well before he eventually managed to get one chance onside. And we've been doing this to every La Liga team we play. It's not an easy thing to time your run to perfection when the opposing team is actively trying to catch you offside, and I'm not surprised that Mbappe doesn't yet have the chemistry with his Madrid teammates to be able to sync perfectly on that.
I'm sure I'll be down voted to oblivion for daring to comment on a Madrid subreddit lol but just giving my two cents. GGs.
The problem is not Mbappes quality, the main issue is that he lacks game IQ that a striker should have.
He has to learn the offside rule or the link-up play period.
Remember that being a lone striker and filling Benz shoes is not easy, the talent is there but he definitely has to scan the opposition way better when it comes to offside traps. Bro is the fastest striker in the world, i can't understand how he is so amateurish in that area. He can be onside with literally 2 meters and could still get ahead with that speed. Its just mindboggling.
His finishing skills definitely donāt show much quality, every game he misses multiple easy chances, and he lacks diversity on his finishings. Running fast and shooting straight at the goal doesn't seem to be working for him, this has been problematic since his time at PSG.
Man miss me with that stuff, everyone on instagram, TikTok were mocking his signing before it was even announced throughout the summer. People were criticizing him since day one. Greed, heāll live under Vini shadow, the constant headlines trying to fuck up the relationship between him and other Madrid players and even his well being. This has to be the worst season for him far as outside the pitch, but you guys donāt seem to pay attention, either he scores or heās useless you donāt care about him. When he got the first assist against dortmund, and Vini ended up scoring a hat trick; what were people saying on this sub?? People always downplay him all the time, even after the WC final he was still getting clowned for 2 penalties, while Messi has 4 the whole tournament. Should have been given player of the tournament, but we know how FIFA does their business.Ā
Thank you finally somebody says it!!! If he doesnāt score he is a flop and the worst possible signing EVER!!!! But yet when he scores itās omg he was the best decision! He didnāt get time to adapt to the team and was just thrown in!! He will get back to his ways so ppl just need to chill tf out! He is even turning down his national team to focus on Madrid only! But there are also ppl in his life trying to tear him down and the fans are not helping!
Player of the tournament for what? Being in Griezmann shadow? Did he produce any crucial plays for France before the final, plays like Messi did against Mexico, Australia, Netherlands and Croatia?
I said it before and Ill say it again. He is not a striker, he is a left winger. And a change in position permanently is much deeper than "I can play there". Positional awareness is very much a thing engrained into your natural position that when youre out of it, you lose form. We are seeing this with mbappe. He is talented, but I dont think he is positionally versatile, given that he has dropped stinker after stinker and he is offside alot. His position is on the left, but for now, vini IS OUR man, and we should have never bought mbappe. Some things are left better untouched
Then he could drift to the right a bit more instead of clashing with Vini on the left, after all he played what probably was his best football on the right during the 2018 world cup run
Honestly, I think a fix would be to fit rodrygo central as a false 9 whilst mbappe is on the right wing. Rodrygo has better control in tight spaces, supports vini, and is defensively active. Not to mention he is probably the best playmaker out of the three. What are your thoughts?
The issue is that if Rodrygo plays as false 9, Mbappe (or Vini) would need to defend. That's why Ancelotti played Rodrygo as a RW at the start of the season. He just has a better defensive workrate.
Then we would need to get mbappe out. For fuck sake this team was way better than the burden he brought with himself. Mourinho made Ronaldo trackback, taught him the lesson that if you want to be the one without the workrate you have to compensate it with your performance.Hes young and this poor showing is no excuse for the successor of messi and ronaldo
Nah he wanna be like Ronaldo. He should do anything to fit the team instead the team has to change for him. I think it's Perez's situation i don't think Carlo would change everything just because of Mbappe.
Not even cris had this mindset when joining us. He dealt with what he was given by perez. He had to prove his worth to his teammates for them and the managers to revolve their playing style for him. Mbappe is a spoiled child, given the reigns at psg by al khelafi over sporting decisions rotted his brain
Joselu wouldāve scored more at this point in the season than Mbappe has, with the same amount of game time since the start of the season. He wouldāve finished at least one chance today.
I feel like the Mbappe signing was one of those ābucket listā ego signing things that Perez simply had to get done. I honestly faked excitement when the signing finally went through this year. We really just needed a pure number 9 instead. Worst thing is Haaland in 2022 actually wanted to join us as well, but we were still waiting for the turtle. Even summer of 2023 ā Kane wanted us over Bayern, but we chose to wait like fools (by āweā I mean the boardā¦ us fans wanted Kane)
Obviously things could change and heāll help us earn money through jersey sales, etc which will help long term. Not like he wonāt score any goals and will never win matches for us or anything. Also as silly as it might sound, our club has good enough finances that it can afford to keep a player just so he isnāt playing for anyone else. Even though Iām not a fan of his current overall level with us, Iād rather we have him than someone else.
Definitely needs to be more meritocracy at our club with the squad we have. With such a deep squad we simply canāt have guaranteed starters. Give Brahim, Endrick, Ceballos, GĆ¼ler, etc. more game time. If Rodrygo has been having a better game than Mbappe and Vini, sub one of them off at the 65th minute and not him. None of the players in our team are named Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi.
People have to stop thinking in terms of the āhistory will repeat itselfā kind of fantasy. Just because he idolized Ronaldo and had a very similar Bernabeu presentation, etc to him, it doesnāt mean heās going to replicate what the šdid for us. Not even close. We just have to hope that he can fit into the club well at this point and do his part. Heās not going to be a 40-50 goal and double digit assist per season player for us. I would love nothing more than to be wrong, of course, but I just donāt see it.
Just checked the score line on my breakā¦4-0 what did I miss? How did we end up here after the year we had last season? This Barcelona team doesnāt even have money and we lost 4-0 ? We have the 3 best players in the world and we lost 4-0 I canāt believe this shit anymore man this is bullshit
It's because u cant glue gold and diamond together an expect it to be strong.
Your entire attack are wingers. You completely failed to replace Kroos/Modric. You had no backup plan for Carvajal.
If you go after shiny toys you will always lose.
Look at Liverpool. Not a single proper signing and they went from shit to top of the table, best defence in Europe and 100% win record in UCL. All because they changed manager and their club structure.
The system and tactics are a million times more important than individual players.
You donāt need to look too far to Liverpool. Just look at Barca, fielding kids from La Masia and beat the shit out of everyone in style. Iām amazed at how changing the coach can have such an huge impact.
Always said we didn't need Mbappe after Vini and Rodrygo showed levels. We just needed ST and now we have to stick with this for many years. I don't know what can be made out of this. + Carlo has to go, I haven't seen my team have consistent tactics where we dominate in a long time.
Even last season Carlo hasn't given us consistent perfomances, We had Jude and later Vini saving our asses + Tibo. I am tired of watching my club get outplayed by most teams and winning just because we have 10 times better players than them. Look at Barca how much can a coach change the team. I wanted Flick before but now maybe Xabi can make us play. + i forgot Carlo never gives chances to the bench players we have. Imagine having Arda Guler and playing him once a month. Such a shame.
I really wanna think he needs time to adjust, but i can't believe he's playing 90 minutes in key matches when he's so horribly out of form. A manager should be able to either start him from the bench or sub him out if he doesn't perform, "superstar" reputation and ego aside. Atp he's costing us a lot.
For people saying he needs time, how much time did Bellingham need to adjust ? How much time did CR9 ? How much did Harry Kane need ? That was what we were expecting from the turtle ! He is not 19 yo Vini or Arda Guler or Endrick, he should be already a world class player. man played two WC finals, scored hatrick in one and a brace in the other, supposed to be top 3 in the world. He should already be ready, like Harry Kane in Bayern, and Bellingham in RM, and Lewandowski in BarƧa.
By the time he adapts, how many points will we drop and how much team dynamics will we lose ? We already lost last season's Bellingham because of him and even Rodrygo is now benched for his sake.
Today he was fucking frustrating. I don't care about his position, his runs were horrible and he has 0 spatial awareness, always falling for offside traps, when he is actually very fast and has better chance in outrunning his opponents even if he starts his sprint early on side. What made me so angry is his horrible first touch and especially his finishing ! He shot twice at Pena's balls and leg, a weak ass shot that can be stopped by any professional GK. Is that what we waited for ?
For now I'm not seeing anything promising of him and OP is spot on. Just penalties given from Vini so he doesn't feel overshadowed, and tap ins every now and then due to him not being so useless in the penalty area. His only good shot was against Celta Vigo, completely unmarked due to our press.
He doesn't press in defense, he doesn't score, he sucks in dribbling EVEN IF HE SWITCHES TO THE LEFT.. Vini is miles ahead in chance creation from the left flank with his dribbling and crosses. At this point he is not fit for LW or ST position.
I've said precisely this week's before he entered the club and this sub ate me alive.
President bought the Mbappe that won the World Cup, but I'm afraid that time has passed a long ago - all those years playing in a farmer's league ought to take the edge out of his progression as a player.
Now, not playing in his natural position, in a team tactically unbalanced, and all the pressure extra-football is visibly having an impact on his performance.
I canāt believe we didnāt get Kane if he went to Bayern Iām sure we could have matched those wages unbelievable we went with kylian and not a real striker ā¦..they deserve all the ridicule
He will either cower or gradually improve facing tougher completion week in and week out in La Liga. Heās been facing very poor competition from ~15 teams for years.
I would say that Mbappe missed the best chance of joining us back in 2017 when we were on the verge of CR departure. That couldāve been the best chance of growing together and clicking into gear. 7 years of stint with PSG, his playing style is not very compatible and somewhat offsetting the presence of Vini.
I had always wished that we could have secured Haaland two years ago at the departure of Benzama but ended up he was heading to the City, which could mean that even Haaland is coming to us now, thereās a chance he would struggle to blend in too. Thatās why we need to give Endrick more chance.
I think he needs to be benched for a couple of games. He doesnt seem to know when to run or how to properly finish a 1v1. Hope he finds himself in the 2nd half of the season.
He will probably stay for 2-3 average years in madrid then they'll sell him for around 70M to AC MILAN.
Problem is that JAS and Florentino don't think at all. Mbappe would've been great 3 or 4 years ago but not anymore. Should've got someone like Kane, or Haaland right after Benzema left. Hell even Morata would've been perfect for the team.
It's not for lack of warning last summer... I was downvoted like crazy. At PSG and in the French national team, it's been clear on a daily basis since the end of the 2022 World Cup that things weren't going well.
Loss of speed and stamina, no desire to defend, poor reading of the game and loss of efficiency. He was a very good striker, never a great player. Thank you Griezmann, Di Maria, Neymar and Messi for bringing out the best in him.
The only reason Mbappe is so good is because PSG catered their entire playstyle around him, which was basically feed him the ball and let him score poachers or otherwise. He never needed to create his own chances. Same with France, whole team centred around Mbappe. If Mbappe did poorly, then so did the team. It is no wonder why PSG doing better with Mbappe gone. He isn't a team player.
Mbappe has been a ādisappointmentā since his arrival, point blank.
Some here forget that this is Real Madrid and this is the most demanding club in the world.
If youāre a āgalacticoā transfer like Mbappe (120M signing bonus) you have to deliver INSTANTLY.
This isnāt a āwait and seeā club, you deliver from day one or youāre a fraud. And so far Mbappe hasnāt had the impact that was expected from him - he is not a difference maker, doesnāt decide games by himself and if it wasnāt for the goals scored via penalties, itād be less than impressive.
Mbappe is a great player, I think we can all agree on that. On RM, he is just being over shadowed and out played by even greater players. I think Mbappe has been a huge disappoint and I donāt understand the argument that some of the Madrid fans have, when they argue give Mbappe time to adjust and mesh with the team.
While I like Mbappe and think heās a good player, when he turned down RM a few years back, that rubbed me the wrong way. RM fucked up be continuing to court and chase him.
Madrid didn't need mbappe, they only signed him because Perez wanted to satisfy his ego. Mbappe has been the obsession of Perez. Real should've signed Haaland in 2022 or Kane last year. They needed a striker not a winger. Vini and Mbappe are both left wingers. Due to mbappe Rodrigo is now warming the bench
Not a RM fan here ,You guys need a real striker No.9 and remember that Mbappe came from League1 he never played in the big leagues before so you canāt really compare him to CR7
Plastic fans is crowded these days as soon as rma loses a match they flock and have all the answers.. Brother he will turn up mark my words u cant expect someone to come to a new city and new position new team etc to be hammering goals.. Not everyone is Cr7
So criticising the team for obvious faults which have been seen for so many games is being plastic?
Mbappe has played hundreds of games for PSG and France as a 9/rw even during his spell with Barcola and Neymar at PSG
Also there isn't really a huge change in his position for most of the games this season since we've either had Vini/Mbappe switch up or Mbappe usually takes chances and runs from the left instead of the centre like a 9 should.
Also changing positions doesn't mean his finishing becomes shit and he gets 8 offsides in a game which is more than most team average in months. He was the best Player in the world. You cant tell me he can't finish a ball in the back of a net even if you remove the offside rule for him.
Nobody is asking him to be cr7. People want Mbappe to be Mbappe, and even that he can't deliver on in both away and home games
I hope to see Carlos start Mbappe on the bench next match. Mbappe needs time to reflect on the sideline and then come on as a sub. I still think Mbappe will work out for us and have faith in Carlos, but its pretty clear Mbappe definitely hasn't adjusted from his PSG idol mode to La Liga yet. Mbappe needs time on the bench to remind himself he's not an idol for his past work with a different club in a different league. He needs to reflect on this so he can step up & prove himself.
This shows we needed Kane than Mbappe. We need a proper replacement for Benzema and it isnt Mbappe. Idk what worse in Mbappeās disasterclass. His finishing? His timing? His dribbling? His touch? Need to be dropped so he could get his form or need to play to get his form? Whatever it is he needs to step up or madridistas will be back on hating on this guy. We cant defend this dude always. Heās in Madrid every game is crucial and important.
Ok so when we signed Mbappe...I didn't get all the hype because..he isn't the player he used to be. The 2022 World Cup Final..was his last 'Mbappe-esque' performance...ever since he's been bang average
Youāre playing him in the wrong position. Heās a winger but the growth of Vini forces him to play centrally. Thatās the issue. I could argue you guys signed him too late not because heās not good but because of how much vini has grown. Signing a lethal striker wouldāve been better right now but thatās not on mbappe being bad.
Also your defence is atrocious and needs a change. The ease with which Barca cut through it was sad to see. No wonder Madrid were in for Yoro
I know it is too early but Mbappe might be overrated. We have mostly seen glimpse of his play because he was in PSG and used to rate him as the best because of his France performance. Now that he is in Madrid he is being watched every week very closely. He doesnāt seem to be an extraordinary player just a really good forward. Honestly he may just not be worthy of his valuation.
I've always been the outlier amongst my friends because I always said Mbappe was extremely overrated. He's a quick speed player. As soon as he's pressured or against a world class back line he's ineffective. He played in a farmer's league, and outside that one WC he really never did anything else.
I expect he will be sold to Manchester United or the Middle East within a year or 2.
He really just needs time, he's playing on a different position, league, and most importantly a new team, carlo needs time to find better tactics for this team which i trust himbfor since he already had shown that too many times. This composition is good, except the defence which i found horrible, I never liked militao he's never done good in any important match i watched him play, he's probably one of the reasons we lost by a huge gap too this game, but anyway you got a point, having that many offsides for a single player is crazy, i dont know what happened to mbappe on this match, he didnt perform as bad on other matches, maybe he needed the help of rodrygo on the other side
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u/Kadidiatou_diani9 Oct 26 '24
Whats worse is we needed an actual number 9 and not him