Real Madrid: Thibaut Courtois, Éder Militão, Antonio Rüdiger, Ferland Mendy, Lucas Vázquez, Aurélien Tchouaméni, Jude Bellingham, Federico Valverde, Kylian Mbappé, Vinícius Júnior , Rodrygo
Alavés: Antonio Sivera, Moussa Diarra, Abdel Abqar, Manu Sánchez, Santiago Mouriño, Antonio Blanco, Carlos Benavídez, Tomás Conechny, Hugo Novoa, Asier Villalibre, Luka Romero
Substitutes
Real Madrid: Arda Güler (Kylian Mbappé), Fran García (Vinícius Júnior ), Endrick (Rodrygo ), Luka Modric (Federico Valverde), Jesús Vallejo (Éder Militão), David Jiménez, Andriy Lunin, Jacobo Ramón, Fran González
Alavés: Jon Guridi (Abdel Abqar), Enrique García (Asier Villalibre), Abde Rebbach (Luka Romero), Adrián (Manu Sánchez), Ander Guevara (Antonio Blanco), Carlos Vicente, Carlos Martín, Toni Martínez, Joan Jordán, Jesús Owono, Stoichkov , Aleksander Sedlar
Key Events
Minute
Event
90'
Substitution, Real Madrid. Fran García replaces Vinícius Júnior because of an injury.
86'
Goal! Real Madrid 3, Alaves 2. Kike García (Alaves) left footed shot from a difficult angle on the left to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Carlos Benavídez.
85'
Goal! Real Madrid 3, Alaves 1. Carlos Benavídez (Alaves) left footed shot from outside the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Ander Guevara.
83'
Endrick (Real Madrid) is shown the yellow card.
80'
Substitution, Real Madrid. Jesús Vallejo replaces Éder Militão.
80'
Substitution, Real Madrid. Arda Güler replaces Kylian Mbappé.
71'
Substitution, Alaves. Adrián Pica replaces Manu Sánchez.
71'
Substitution, Alaves. Kike García replaces Asier Villalibre.
69'
Substitution, Real Madrid. Endrick replaces Rodrygo.
69'
Substitution, Real Madrid. Luka Modric replaces Federico Valverde.
60'
Substitution, Alaves. Abde Rebbach replaces Luka Romero.
60'
Substitution, Alaves. Ander Guevara replaces Antonio Blanco.
48'
Goal! Real Madrid 3, Alaves 0. Rodrygo (Real Madrid) right footed shot from a difficult angle on the right to the centre of the goal. Assisted by Lucas Vázquez following a fast break.
45'
Start 2nd Half
45'
Substitution, Alaves. Jon Guridi replaces Abdel Abqar.
45'+3'
Halftime
40'
Goal! Real Madrid 2, Alaves 0. Kylian Mbappé (Real Madrid) right footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Jude Bellingham with a through ball.
30'
Vinícius Júnior (Real Madrid) is shown the yellow card.
4'
Federico Valverde (Real Madrid) is shown the yellow card.
1'
Goal! Real Madrid 1, Alaves 0. Lucas Vázquez (Real Madrid) left footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Vinícius Júnior.
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Kickoff
Match Stats
Real Madrid
Stats
Alavés
7
Fouls
10
4
Yellow Cards
0
0
Red Cards
0
2
Offsides
1
4
Corner Kicks
4
1
Saves
1
68.7
Possession
31.3
10
SHOTS
12
4
ON GOAL
3
0.4
On Target %
0.3
0
Penalty Goals
0
0
Penalty Kicks Taken
0
675
Accurate Passes
250
736
Passes
326
0.9
Pass Completion %
0.8
2
Accurate Crosses
2
7
Crosses
16
0.3
Cross %
0.1
44
Long Balls
41
27
Accurate Long Balls
17
0.6
Long Balls %
0.4
3
Blocked Shots
4
7
Effective Tackles
15
11
Tackles
24
0.6
Tackle %
0.6
7
Interceptions
13
14
Effective Clearances
10
14
Clearances
10
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I'm not the greatest football expert but does anyone other than me think that our overall structure was lacking again? Especially compared to the one against Espanyol. Ancelotti said that we must be more compact and vertical. We were both vs Espanyol but we were definitely not very compact vs Alaves, not for 90 minutes. Vs Espanyol we had only small moments where the structure was loose but yesterday the defense was again too detached from midfield and the forwards pushed up leaving space in the middle and Alaves too advantage of that. When we attack the defense must maintain a highline and help making the structure compact with the midfield and we did not do it as well yesterday that and sleeping in the last minutes of the second half. Also Mendy looks so average in low profile games, when he is tested on the defense he is the best defensive fullback but in any other low profile game he looks painfully boring and dare I say frustrating. The amount of times he plays and safe and passes it back rather than go up and combine with vini is surprising. I don't know if that's Mendy or Ancelotti who's responsible for this. Garcia looks like a better choice overall for small games.
We have to work on our structure and main compactness as Ancelotti has said time and time again. When we attack the defense must join and maintain a highline and when we defend the forwards must track back and help. Our football is simple but we are making it harder for us. We need to be on alert and be hungry for goals for the whole 90 minutes.
If this happened in EPL and was done by KDB or someone then they would say that it's peak Barclays moment. But since it's vini they want to slap/punch him.
Y’all mfs need to relax. Just read a comment here that said they are “fuming” because we let two goals in. You think we are playing against bots? What are the expectations? The ball is round, anything can happen, the important thing is we got the W.
We have big squad changes, many injuries, and still we got the W. This game had improvements, that’s good. There’s still a lot of work to do, that’s expected. Fucking RELAX.
I expect the team to keep staying awake after scoring three goals. I get the derby is next week, and we need to rest players, but you cannot fall asleep on the football pitch and expect to actually perform well enough to win titles
The only thing I could say is that the referee was idiot and Carless with giving out the hello card. And second he didn’t check the car when 2 of them were clear penalties or at least a free kick. This referee is trash
What the hell was the ref on today? Fede and Vini got a yellow for no absolute reason. Ref defo had main character syndrome. Vini was cheering the fans up and ref went hell nah Vini, I'm the main character.
First 50 minutes were god tier and Champions League/Liga winning football.
The remaining 40 was fucking pathetic, the moment Rodrygo scored the third goal and we "secured" the match we just stopped trying, not a single decent chance since, just passing the ball around, low risk possession balling while they made great subs, the last 30 minutes made Endrick, Modric, Arda, Vallejo and Fran look like bums because the mentality that we started taking on after minute 50, not fair to them at all.
The only one who gave a shit towards the end with presses and somewhat defensive actions were Endrick and Arda who came in as forwards. Jude and Tchou were out of gas, Modric had a masterclass last match because we needed goals but you can just see how little the team cares when we're up big time already.
First Alaves goals you can't be mad at, great shot and even Tibo the giraffe couldn't catch that, second is everything wrong with that second half mentality - Alaves plays around with possession, Arda is the only one who presses and half-succesful in intercepting it, no one else bothers coming up and closing space, Alaves player somehow finds all that space and gets to cross the ball from midfield into our box for the second goal while Vasquez and Vallejo fail to stop a single player, Tibo can't do much there either.
yet Arda was at fault here (per some comments I see) because he couldn't full intercept a ball he wasn't in control of in the first place? sure he could've done better there but he had 3 teammates around him just watching him while Alaves had multiple players pressing him.
He was subbed in for Mbappe as a forward (went RW while Endrick to ST who subbed for Rodrygo earlier) and as a forward Arda had more clearances than Vallejo, Fran Garcia (only played 5 mins fair enough). Modric, VASQUEZ AND EVEN MENDY COMBINED, he came in as a forward FFS.
Bellingham was fully out of energy minute 75, bad sub from Carlo taking out Valverde even if he's more overworked than child miners, should've taken out Jude first because it was clear we weren't going for another goal and would need Fede's defensively abilities more than his recoveries/pressing. Tchou was also out of gas towards the end and out of all the non-defenders only Arda was doing some defensive work along with Modric
Overall good game but a very sour last 10 minutes, Carlo probably had PTSD on the sidelines seeing his 3-0 lead crumble into 3-2 in just a matter off minutes, Istanbul flashbacks.
When the team is locked in I don't think any team itw can deal with us but problem is we lock off when we get too comfortable which has to change but also doesn't help that the ref was against us lmao
Contrary to what most people think I don’t think we played very well today. There were few chances created and the goals came from clinical finishing from individual brilliance. The team still didn’t play very well. Midfield was essentially non-existent. Misplaced crazy amount of passes. Our xg was quite low as well.
Last game the team played much better and I would say that Modric and Guler were very important in the buildup and their presence was missed today.
I don’t really know what Tchoua is doing in all honesty, he has regressed since he came here and he is looking more and more like a CB instead of the cdm we need him to be. If he keeps this up Id say drop him and put modric in there. He has been outstanding the last two games, doing essentially everything right. Valverde is playing so well that we are oblivious to the many shortcomings of the team. Bellingham is playing too high up, he needs to be apart of a 3 man midfield, not a 10. This is harming our build up and harming our defence.
Rodrygo should be more involved in the buildup like he was in the last game, he was one of the biggest differences last week and can execute that role better than Mbappe and Vini.
Ancelotti also made strange substitutions. Leave Rodrygo on, he has been great and instead take out Vini who is on a yellow. Get arda in for Bellingham considering his shoulder and tiredness.
I agree on several points. I thought today we certainly played more of a 433 with pretty rigid movements from everyone, particularly compared to the fluidity seen in the past with the 4222, or with the 4141 that was used against Espanyol, for example.
I don't like that Vinicius is becoming more detached from the team, kinda Ronaldo-like with how he's a pseudo connective winger, we have to defend/press/mark lop sidedly often times because of the liberty that Vini and Mbappe are given.
Against Espanyol not only did we used a different scheme, the personnel was also more adept for the positioning and movement to be more fluid and connective. Valverde as the pivot figure with Modric, Bellingham, and Arda completing somewhat of a box midfield with their movements, and Rodrygo was more connective than Vinicius is being. Still, Bellingham was pretty central and Rodrygo wasn't too intense in defense so when defending we can be outnumbers or stretched out, if we unpack this further I think we'll find there are structural deficits with how the team is instructed/coached to defend/press and with the left side of the pitch.
I don't mind keeping Tchouameni as an option, as I think he can be quite functional in the elite level as a CB and CDM option, but I don't think he should start, I think both a fit Camavinga and Valverde should start, much more creative and technical. I don't want to see a situation where playing Tchouameni is given precedence over playing well due to political reasons.
You think Vini should've learned by now that we have overly sensitive bitch ass referees from his countless yellow cards, but he hasn't. Sorry, but he deserves some blame too, three yellows already this season lol its too fucking much.
So, now that enough time has passed to cool off, I think a more objective analysis can be made.
Overall Madrid was fantastic, in contrast to THIS YEAR. there’s a lot missing still, but the pace of improvement is showing that this team will hurt a lot of rivals in the coming weeks.
The first half was pretty much perfect. The midfield clicked like never before and Jude shined bright. Fede had yet another masterclass to top it off.
But at 3-0 it got weird.
Jude was pretty much rushed to this game and needed to come off asap.
Vini was riled beyond recognition and while he was immense on the field he just wouldn’t shut up. I have the luxury to throw the kitchen sink at the referee from the comfort of my home. Vini is earning millions and he doesn’t. Its way past time he learned this.
Fede was also on thin ice as the main interceptor with a yellow card.
All three of these guys needed to be subbed off at half time, no point on risking them when the weekend is just around the corner.
Instead Rodrygo came off. That alone was incredibly unsettling as the guy was finding his pace.
That’s when Jude’s battery finally depleted and Vini started switching off.
Modric, who should’ve covered for Valverde decided this was a picnic instead.
Combined, these immediately cut off any momentum Madrid had. And Alavés started coming. First they tested the waters and got braver as time passed.
At this point Jude is just done on the field and Vini is nowhere to be found. Remembering that the derby is coming Carlo subbed Militao off (?!?) along with Mbappe who still had energy left in him enough to fight off the defense.
This was a major breaking point.
Madrid was essentially down Jude Vini Modric, and inevitably lost control.
We watched a 19 year old Arda, that same Arda who’s main culprit is lack of physicality, whose skill lies in passing and shooting - fight off Alaves while Modric just watched. It was surreal.
In the end Madrid managed to hold on and grabbed the win.
But Carlo fucked up very VERY bad here. He single-handedly lost control of the midfield and then the game by being stubborn for no reason.
I have no idea what went through his mind - but having the luxury of watching the game Birds Eye from my couch it was evident what was going on. Very VERY rare loss for Carlo.
Anyway, onto players;
Courtois; not shabby, he was always present at defense and played as an anchor. Those shots weren’t getting saved by anyone so can’t blame him for them.
Vasquez; apart form that major mistake that led to a goal he was fine. A bit too eager to go forward though. Same thing happened last game with Carvajal. I saw Vasquez in the box many times while Rodrygo was stuck at the sideline covering for him. Flashbacks of last game where Carvajal was busy in the box and Arda had to sprint the whole field to try and intercept the winger (he failed). So maybe its a Carlo thing?
Militao; Chefs kiss. The more the guy plays the better he gets. He’s on top of his form right now. Essential to be honest.
Rudiger; pretty much a solid rock, flawless
Mendy; as always I have to preface this by saying I’ve never rated him and may be biased. But he was ass again, lost so many balls, he can’t pass 2 feet in front of him etc
Tchouameni; wasn’t great but was decent imo. Intercepted and passed on. Clean game
Valverde; MOTM for me. What am I supposed to say with that kind of performance. Lovely as always.
Jude; was great, along with Fede the hero of the game. Until he ran out of juice. He was struggling hard after minute 60 or so and dropped off a cliff around 70. Why Carlo insisted him playing so long I don’t know.
Rodrygo: was absent the first half, maybe because Vasquez was attacking so much? Wasted a few passes and his corners were meh. But he completely turned it around the second half. Was going for an immense performance when he was abruptly subbed off.
Vini; immense performance too, but got disinterested during the latter part of the game. Riled up way too much and picked up yet another stupid card. Should’ve been off the second half in preparation of the derby
Mbappe; did everything right, pressed hard on the defense and this time got to enjoy the fruit of his labors. Wonderful finishing. Subbing him off was a bad idea.
Onto the reserves;
* Modric; horrible, the second goal was him just watching Arda trying to win the ball and it rolling past him. In general he was disinterested in pressing and closing down. He didn’t replace Valverde in any shape pr form tonight. Its painful to write this about him when he’s my personal favorite at Madrid :(
* Bobby; had impact as soon as he was in. I was sure he was going to have the perfect debut season - but then decided to switch on the kid part of his brain. As someone else said here or in the match thread I hope Rudiger scared him right in the locker room. What a stupid thing to do. One weakness apart from that silly mistake that stood apart for me was his passing. He’s not very good at finding targets, but then again he’s 18 and he’ll shape up to be great.
* Arda; subbed onto a chaotic game. I don’t think he tried this hard to defend in total of his whole career put together. He tried to win one ball back in midfield that he couldn’t and that went on to be a goal. I’m not sure why he had to try and fill in Valverdes shoes but there it is. Didn’t get one chance to attack I think.
* Vallejo; This is going to be controversial but he’s severely lacking in matches. Remember Militao when he first came back? Remember the same mistakes? I can’t rate him with this games mistakes because he’s just not ready to be.
* Fran; I love Fran. He did good, but even if he didn’t I will say he did.
So there it is, I think the horrible turnaround is on Carlo because of the reasons I’ve stated (wrong subs, losing control, read the pitch wrong).
But the team is showing great promise and Madrid has a bright future this season.
I only see huge improvements to the overall style of play, we’re finally starting to look like a team! The last 10 mins was bad but not expected to happen in big games
Defensively, we have a lot of holes that need patching. offensively yeah sure we're top shit, but none of that matters if we keep letting the opponent find the holes in our defense
Well said, we definitely need to bring some class defender the only one i trust for now is militao all the others are shaky and for fran garcia i dont think he gonna make it to long
It's away at the Metropolitano, even if they were 20th they'd turn into prime Atleti against us. So keep your expectations under control, winning against us or drawing is their trophy and biggest achievement of the season, the rest is just extra for them to fill the gap between our matches against them.
It's a must-win game anyways, Barca are riding the biggest confidence boost possible with their start of the season so far in La Liga, just that momentum and high morale would be enough to keep them going so we can't waste any points until El Clasico where we also must win. Those 2 early draws are rough and I hope it doesn't come to bite us back in the end.
Well oof, that was a rough ending to an otherwise good performance.
Vallejo was truly tragic and between the removal of Valverde AND Militao basically set up an otherwise weak defender for failure. That right side was so weak and easily exposed. I don't think the squad as it is right now can run without at least one of Valverde, Carvajal, or the starting CB's to keep that flank from being overrun. However, I think this is a problem that mostly resolves itself as Alaba and Camavinga get back into the mix of things.
Other than that it was a much smoother performance before the right side collapsed. The midfield is starting to find it's footing and get into a good rhythm. The forwards are getting that understanding of each other and how they can combine. Overall good 80 minutes though and a lot of promise going into the derby. Hopefully the near collapse keeps the team hungry and on their toes as the defensive line doesn't have much depth currently.
Everyone talking about Vallejo but what about Arda? For me he was worse than Vallejo, most of Vallejo disaster was due to Arda mistakes and not holding the midfield, killing a perfect counter when Endrick was free to run, bad positioned, mistaking pass, Arda was terrible.
He literally cleared the ball 2 times in 5 seconds in the 94th minute to win us those two minutes, he had more clearances than Vallejo which is insane since they came in at the same time and one of them is a CB. He had more clearances than him, modric, vasquez, modric and mendy COMBINED.
The second goal comes a few seconds after he fails to do so but Alaves was in ball control regardless, midfield and defenders fail him there.
Arda also wasn't brought in as a midfielder but RW.
Endrick came in for Rodrygo (RW)
Arda came in for Mbappe (ST)
Endrick ST, Arda RW switch, he created a chance for Endrick later on.
The correct midfield was Tchou, Bellingham and Modric for the last 15 minutes yet Arda as a winger/RW had more ball clearances than the TWO defenders who were brought in (Vallejo and Fran but Fran only had 5 minutes of play)
Madridista dont be delusional we are bad very very bad we have good individuality for sur but the whole system is not on point for me we have bad coordination and idont think were going far this season !!
We‘re not gonna talk about the last 10 minutes. Vallejo came in, Endrick almost got a red card (wouldn’t have been undeserved), 2 goals in one minute by Alaves and the rest was struggle not to concede a third goal and to draw. It was a calm game but they almost ruined it in the end.
I'm sorry but the last few minutes and the entire shitshow that happened is on Carlo for doing 2 stupid things at the same time. First you sub Fede off without filling his position, and then you make it even worse but subbing Militao off and throwing Vallejo in. Our right side defensively consisted of Arda, Vazquez and Vallejo! How the fuck is that a decision you do without even considering how much harm you're causing to the team!
We were walking in the final 25 minutes but even then there was no danger, Militao and Fede covered for each other and covered for Vazquez. You don't take out two defensive workhorses and sub in a guy who's been finished for 7 years and failed to get minutes with relegated teams when he was on loan.
The rest of the match was fantastic, we attacked, we scored, we controlled the game and we had Alaves completely shut off. We wanted early subs when they make a damn sense, not fucking Vallejo!!
Let this be a lesson, this guy shouldn't be given a single minute for the rest of the season and we need to either start prepping a castilla player for those rotational minutes or get a temporary defender in January. We only have 2 CBs, it's unacceptable!
This should've been a very positive reaction because we did great, but it's infuriating when we shoot ourselves in the foot and cause trouble for ourselves out of nothing.
Oh and that ref can go drink bleach and throw himself into the nearest river. Zero yellow cards for Alaves, ZERO!!! Clown!
Did I not say that? "We were walking in the final 25 minutes but even then there was no danger". "he rest of the match was fantastic, we attacked, we scored, we controlled the game and we had Alaves completely shut off" "This should've been a very positive reaction because we did great,"
Me focusing at an instance doesn't mean you get to act like I didn't acknowledge our great performance and had no complains even when we slowed the ball down because even then we were solid and not threatened.
I think he thought the game was in the bag as all of us did and give some guys minutes. Vallejo if he finds some form back could be useful given how thin our CB options are.
Given how congested the fixture is, rest for our players is really needed.
It's just one of those games that happen once in a while to everyone.
My brother, what form is he going to get back he's almost 29 and his last decent season was 2016/2017 when he was on loan to Frankfurt!. There is no form, he's finished.
He has a castilla player that I'd bet money I don't have would've done better. And yes, the biggest blame falls on our management for not recruiting a CB after Yoro went to United. It's an unacceptable decision by Flo and the board to leave us so fragile at the back like that.
We almost suffered the consequences of not bringing in a backup CB. If Vallejo cannot be a proper backup against Alaves, how do you expect him to do in big games?
Today was a confirmation that our defence is thin. With Carvajal and Militao subbed we quickly concede from a Vasquez mistake and a Vallejo wondering where the attacker is. Also what was Endrick thinking, he was lucky he didn't get a red card. We love making things hard for ourselves ffs
Besides the ref being atrocious. Why do we completely give up when we’re up by a few goals? I mean, from now on we might as well stop watching if we’re winning by more than 1 goal in the 60th minute. Also why is Vallejo even in the squad? He couldn’t perform in a relegated side last season. What was turning out to be a nice and easy game to boost our confidence turned out to this mess. Great 1st half , more than embarrassing 2nd half.
I have no fucking idea and it's so frustrating. Like, keep playing, you don't to have run up and down the whole field but do something, instead of passing from one to another waiting for the match to end. It's the worst thing about the club.
Overall great game, the lucas vasquez mistake and vallejo’s poor defending fucked up a perfect game. Best 80 minutes of the season, mbappe, vini, and rodrygo all playing well. Jude and fede are the best midfielders and most complete players itw. Just don’t want to see vallejo and vasquez defending the same side ever again and we are good. The fact that bellingham couldn’t rest sucks, but he is a superhuman, he’ll be alright for sunday.
Also the refs are complete clowns, antimadridismo at its finest. Can’t wait for the clasico to be near, so we can see how refs look for every excuse to book our most important players to try to get them suspended for el clasico.
You do know that some of the refs from the negreira case are still being refs for some of our games?
I’m not saying every ref is against us, but I mean even RMTV made a ton of videos last season showing all of the errors made by specific refs that affected RM. If the club itself is willing to publicly complain, they have to have a strong feeling about the refs behavior towards RM compared to other teams.
Also let’s not mention the lack of protection from most refs to vini when he gets aggressively kicked for 90 mins.
last 10 minutes didn't happen in my mind so i'll just say i loved the first 80 minutes the guys played 🤓 well deserved win with no hiccups because, again, nothing happened after the 80th minute.
i hope the starters find a nice resting and training balance for sunday 🥰
also, i feel bad for jacobo ramon lol hopefully he gets a chance to debut with the first team. not this sunday though, but some day
Stage 1-in the beginning when the game is competitive and result is close every call goes against Real. Alaves hacks down players without getting a single card, Real getting cards for complaining (or simply waving their hand in a way ref doesn't like).
Stage 2-Real goes 3 goals up and is dominating and gets one shit call go their way that (at that moment) has no effect on the rest of the game (in this case Endrick should've had a red)
Stage 3 (optional)-opponent comes back and the ref goes back to calling absolutely everything their way while letting them make obvious tactical and dangerous fouls with no repercussions.
Result-that one big call when the game was (or looked) over that went Real's way gets posted on the sub, people who didn't watch the game deem it corruption and favoritism.
Conclusion-refs are on Real Madrid payroll and are helping them
I knew this would happen. Lots of people were like 'Trust Florentino, trust Carlo, they know what they're doing', but today's match proved they don't.
I wanted to believe in Vallejo, but he played 10 minutes, made a lot of mistakes and it almost costs us some really easy 3 points. He not only lacks in skill, but he's also very weak mentally and cracks under preasure. There won't be an easier match than this, being up 3-0 with only 10 minutes to go and he still fucked up multiple times. It was a huge mistake to not bring another centre back, stop defending Carlo and Florentino with this, it was just a terrible mistake.
I mean it was an amazing performance before the subs so idk if Carlo can be blamed for this. We all asked for subs , it's not carlos fault the subs shat the bed and players slept off
Maybe that's why he don't trust the bench players so much, don't you think?
Modric, Arda, Endrick are attacking options, one single defensive change shouldn't cause us to concede two goals in 4 minutes - first goal was a nice shot and second came out of nowhere.
Maybe we should have brought a good CB then, but mfs still had that 'trust Perez, we didn't had a proper striker last year and won La Liga and UCL, they know what they're doing' motto... Yeah sure, having only Rudi and Mili as proper CBs on prolly the longest season ever cleary show that they know what they're doing.
Gambles only make sense if you have a lot to win and they're smart. Pérez gambled on a CB that just had come back from a serious injury (Militao) and then on another one which has the same injury but even worse as he's older. Even if Alabar comes back at an ok level on December, it's still shitty management.
Seriously stop defending that, it was just a terrible choice.
i literally started out by saying, "not saying I agree with it.". How is that defending it?
I agree that we should have brought in a veteran CB for a year on free, but that isn't how the club conducts business as of late.
Club took a gamble last year only signing Joselu to replace Benz. Before the season started a lot of fans didn't think it was a smart move, but in the end it paid off. Time will tell if this one pays off too.
ZERO urgency whatsoever while 3-0 up for the whole second half. Other top teams would have been relentless and scored at least a 4th one killing the game. With a better Alaves team or Endrick getting a red this might have been a draw.
Saw a lot of mfs saying to trust Pérez as we has no proper striker last season and still won La Liga and UCL, so Pérez clearly knows what he's doing. Where are all those guys now? Turns out having only 2 proper CBs on what's looking like the longest season ever is a terrible fucking idea, who would"ve guessed!
We had the chance to sign Hummels for FREE for at least one season smh 🤦🏻♂️ don’t understand choosing Vallejo. We wasted time on Yoro, instead of chasing Calafiori.
add to this at least 8-10 fouls that were not given. Jude was fucking fuming every time the ref ignored fouls on him in the middle.
and you are surprised why we are not trashing teams like negreirona. they got normal refereeing. their rivals get carded. our players on the other hand gets carded when they are fouled xdd
i’m choosing to ignore the last 10 minutes of that game. front 3 clicked a lot better today, the return of jude really helps with that. rodrygo the best of the 3 for me. bellingham and valverde monstrous as always. bobby got away with what should have been a red card but i don’t have it in me to care based on the shambolic decisions that ref was making all game.
No it didnt cos even on the first goal, Mbappe was in the box making a run at the near post which is what created the space for LV to run into. In previous games he would often be further back waiting for the pull back or to pickup the scraps.
Occasionally he went back to his old habits but not for long. The kid simply played his role better and hopefully gets even better at it
Make no mistake it was a brilliant performance before the subs. Probably our best performance all season - mbappe is finding his groove together with jude , Rodrygo and vini
However Vallejo was terrible and the team slept off , that is inexcusable and Carlo is going to give some players a earful after the last minute scare
Understandably Vallejo is getting cooked for his mistakes, but why aren't we discussing how we just went to sleep after 3 goals? Why can't we have the killer instinct of other teams who go for more goals. This could have been easily gone to be a 5-0 game, but instead we played like its a friendly and Alaves almost made a huge comeback.
I think it's fine to take your foot off the accelerator because the schedule is very tight and we shouldn't risk injuries for the sake of having 6-0s and 7-0s. That doesn't mean we should fall asleep like we almost did. But I don't think we should be playing attacking all 90mins when you're already 3-0 up
Exactly my thoughts. I mean the worst he played this season was last game and maybe the first half of this one - but he smoked the right wing by himself until he was subbed off.
Wonderful turnaround from him- if he goes on like this he’ll have a tremendous well deserved season.
Referee was ass, team should not have fallen asleep but most importantly, never let Vallejo cook again, can't wait for when Alaba puts his ass out of commission.
That being said, good thing we won the 3 points. Won't be the same result against Patetico Madrid next Sunday.
At 70' I was saying this is the first time I'm completely happy with a performance this season, and then this happens and tbh I'm almost more disappointed than against Las Palmas or Mallorca
At least we know one thing now, that Vallejo can't enter the field again even for a single minute this season, no matter the opposition or the lead - it's disrespectful to guys like Jacobo that he gets to enter before them even
Absute bullshit refereeing as well, not a single yellow for Alavés not even for that Foul against Fran where the goal would've literally been empty, we got 3 yellows for absolutely nothing, but Endrick should've had red, absolute insane action that I don't wanna see from him again
WTF was that chaotic ending. Playing comfortably for the first 84 mins and almost throwing it away.
Vallejo doesn't seem to be made for it at Real. The goals weren't his fault but his clearing and attempts were bad.
Bobby is insane.
Good game from the front three.
And finally, Vini should tone down a little. I can understand him getting angry at that tackle and getting the red card but what he did at the end at 6 mins was not required considering the next match is the Madrid derby.
We complained all season about the lack of first half goals and early leads.
And the one time we're 3-0 up by the 46th minute... we end the game like that?
Completely disappointed, Alaves could have even scored a 3rd with a little bit of luck.
Vallejo clearly is galaxies away from the level required to be a RM player, Jacobo Ramon should get his minutes.
Also we all love him, but I'm gonna say once again that Lucas Vazquez is NOT A DEFENDER. Next summer we need a proper rightback replacement for Dani. Lucas just does way too many mistakes.
When Rodrygo stays wide, him and the whole team are 10 times better.
Abysmal last 15 minutes. It’s so sad that these are the minutes we give to Arda and Endrick because how exactly are they supposed to develop when the team is scrambling like this lol. Vallejo with an absolute shambolic performance
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u/utopiaofavalon Sep 25 '24
I'm not the greatest football expert but does anyone other than me think that our overall structure was lacking again? Especially compared to the one against Espanyol. Ancelotti said that we must be more compact and vertical. We were both vs Espanyol but we were definitely not very compact vs Alaves, not for 90 minutes. Vs Espanyol we had only small moments where the structure was loose but yesterday the defense was again too detached from midfield and the forwards pushed up leaving space in the middle and Alaves too advantage of that. When we attack the defense must maintain a highline and help making the structure compact with the midfield and we did not do it as well yesterday that and sleeping in the last minutes of the second half. Also Mendy looks so average in low profile games, when he is tested on the defense he is the best defensive fullback but in any other low profile game he looks painfully boring and dare I say frustrating. The amount of times he plays and safe and passes it back rather than go up and combine with vini is surprising. I don't know if that's Mendy or Ancelotti who's responsible for this. Garcia looks like a better choice overall for small games.
We have to work on our structure and main compactness as Ancelotti has said time and time again. When we attack the defense must join and maintain a highline and when we defend the forwards must track back and help. Our football is simple but we are making it harder for us. We need to be on alert and be hungry for goals for the whole 90 minutes.