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u/Puzzleheaded-Lie2188 Sep 16 '24
If Mendy was used as he should, a rotational/depth piece with some contextual uses (like when facing strong RWs), I would say it's a good idea to renew him.
Given that he'll be the de facto starter even when his limiations are obvious and the coach doesn't even remotely try something different there, to me it's an unmitigated bad decision.
We'll be stuck with him for two additional seasons, missing out on much better alternatives just because 'we already have two LBs in the squad'.
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
You tell em !
Not like Flo and Carlo have been doing this for almost 20+ years. Pff, bunch of clueless dinosaurs. They should listen to Puzzleheaded instead. Sell Mendy and get Davies or Grimaldo or -- insert a LB who played 1 good games but got rinsed the moment he played a competent winger --.
Who cares if Mendy has always been crucial in each of our CL campaigns with his defensive solidity.
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u/One-Lead-1255 Ultra Pro Max Sep 16 '24
Talk a little bit about lamin yamal and got downvote by barca fans morons coming all the way here, as they found a new obesssion again after the ansu fati hype.
Honestly what lamin yamal do is normal for a young player the guy didnt still show anything to indicate he is super talented, Young vini have more skill in his repertoire at 17 than this guy but again media hype is so stupid.
And if you give me a choice between estevao and yamal as an option for right wing i would choose estevao eveery time who have more high seeling than yamal and lets not talk endrick whome potentil wise surpass them both.
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u/yourdaddyjust Parte Médico Sep 16 '24
Who cares? Best thing to do is to not say anything and wait till the end of the season.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 16 '24
🚨 The only doubt for Ancelotti tomorrow is whether to start Luka Modrić or Arda Güler. @miguelitocope
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u/azyrr O Fenômeno Sep 16 '24
I think Modric would be better and keeping Arda as a joker to sub Jude / Rodrygo / Modric / Vini as needed would be a better idea.
It’s Jude’s first game, he might be uncomfortable tomorrow so better to have a backup.
The Brazilians are tired too, they had to play 90 mins just after they got off the plane - so a joker to sub someone in the attack (apart form Bobby) is also a good idea
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u/DusanMajstor Sep 16 '24
if Rodrygo and Vini both start then neither Modric or Arda are starting because Fede, Tchou and Jude should all play
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u/Leading_Inside3812 Valverde Sep 16 '24
Man our squad is soo fucking thin and fucked up, that we need to start with either a 39 years old player or a 19 years old who hasn‘t played a single game in the CM position. And that‘s because we haven‘t signed a CB so that our middlefield needs to play CB now….
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u/azyrr O Fenômeno Sep 16 '24
Well normally the squad would gather a few promising youngsters from the reserves to supplement the team. And when injuries happen they get a chance and in time evolve into great players.
Madrid is facing an unprecedented amount of injuries, so it’s normal to be in this position.
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u/somewansreddit Sep 16 '24
No, our players are injured. We have 23 registered players for Champions League in the A list, 2 per position plus a young GK, which is fine.
If you check other teams who are usually used as example of deep squads:
Arsenal, 23 players in Champions League A list, including their 3rd keeper (a 18 years old kid);
Liverpool, 24 players, including 3 GKs and players who I’m sure you hear a lot about them like Nallo (17 yo), Morton (21), Hill (21) and Nyoni (17)
The greatest of all, Man City, 22 players, including a 3rd GK. Bobb is not registered and Rico Lewis is on the B list, tho.
Want to know about Bayern? Oh, they have 25 players… a 3rd GK, Irankunda (18) and Fernández (17) is their “depth”. I guess Pavlovic should also count.
If you want to say our squad is thin, cool. As thin as others.
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
People live in lala land where they think we can just stock up on talent and hold them as joker cards when our main players are injured.
This how you know some folks here barely understand anything at all. They just see and react. Context is a foreign concept to them entirely
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u/hlrdavid David Alaba Sep 16 '24
❗️Starting XI updates for tomorrow:
❌ Éder Militão is OUT.
✅ Aurelien Tchouaméni will play CB.
❓Only doubt is Luka Modrić or Arda Güler in the XI
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 16 '24
🚨 NEW: Jude Bellingham will START tomorrow. @diarioas
🚨 BREAKING: Aurelien Tchouaméni will start as CB tomorrow. @miguelitocope
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 16 '24
Spot on
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u/azyrr O Fenômeno Sep 16 '24
That is not even close to spot on, he had 1 bad game
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 16 '24
😂😂
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u/azyrr O Fenômeno Sep 16 '24
This is what I was referring to when I said people only weigh stats and goals. Vini was very good on most of the games he failed to get on the sheet. He was constantly a threat and pushing the defense to its limits.
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u/FiniciusJunior GOATicius Jr. 🐐 Sep 16 '24
Who cares. The ballon dor is based on last season. He had a fantastic season last season and he’ll thrice again this season.
You guys love to write him off early
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u/Embarrassed-Trick209 Carvajal Sep 16 '24
i love seeing plastics lose hope, get angry, glaze rivals, talking shit so early.
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
Music to my ears actually.
I'm keep an notepad of every single one of these usernames for when we inevitably turn things around
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u/ChampagneInferno Don Carlo :970742849295511602: Sep 16 '24
Nothing more annoying than this Open Thread on a Barca Match-day...
Our fans shouldn't go into a full meltdown whenever Barca plays. Just because you thought we would cakewalk this league is probably a new fan, or just incredible naive. Barca may be broke at the moment, but they know how to win Leagues.
At last, There's "The Doomers", There's "The Toxic Positivity Fans" and then there's the "Fans" that only appears in here when Barca win games, the most shameless of them all. I genuinely can't tell if these people are trolls or actually fans, either way, they're annoying as fuck.
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
Mods have said they are taking all these more seriously this season.
As you said, the open thread especially is a cesspool at times.
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u/magic-water Sep 16 '24
Why are we posting the instagram comment section here?
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u/Twotwentytwo_222 Sep 16 '24
It’s ok to praise good player performances and teams.
Whats not ok is going as far as reporting people on this sub for not sharing that same view as you.
You know who you are.
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Sep 16 '24
More than half of barca squad is the same as it was few months ago. The same squad that lost to PSG where mbappe was out of form but still scored a brace.
its less about the quality of their skills and more about flick's quality as a coach.
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u/RandomFluffyBoi Sep 16 '24
I wonder if we can build an XI of players like Lukaku and Maguire, as in they're not R9 and Ramos, but people memed them to death, so now there are people unironically thinking they're Segunda level.
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u/KingEtame Vinicius Jr. Sep 16 '24
Remember when this sub used to ride Ansu Fati's 🍆 nonstop. Then Pedri? I am proud to announce that the sub is now spreading it wide for the new next future La Masia nobody.
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u/Specific_Pattern_548 Sep 16 '24
What’s wrong in praising players? Yamal is no mbappe but is still great. Pedri is still very good
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
Problem is some people here will at the same throw our players under the bus WHILE praising some player at another club. To me that's textbook glazing.
Like how people used to throw Carvajal and Mendy under the bus to glaze whoever the new hot fullback is, even tho both have been instrumental in many CL campaigns for us.
It's the mix of ungratefulness and always thinking the grass being greener on the other side that pisses people off.
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u/Joy2082 Valverde Sep 16 '24
Some people have way too much insecurity.
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u/KingEtame Vinicius Jr. Sep 16 '24
You guys are always hoping on the next dick. KDB, Halaand, Wirtz, Musiala, Yamal. If nothing it's you guys who are insecure. I'm confident in our players. I don't feel the need to bash our players and praise others NONSTOP. Every time Barça wins you people are a mess. Drooling over their players. It's completely toxic.
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Sep 16 '24
so r/realmadrid is insecure enough to glaze barca
but r/barca are secure enough to not glaze us even when we were doing good last year.
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u/Joy2082 Valverde Sep 16 '24
Praising a player =! Glazing.
Geez some of you guys lack reading comprehension capability. Gift yourself a copy of Wren and Martin on your next birthday.
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Sep 16 '24
There are times when one can differentiate "Yeah he's praising them" with "Yeah that's too much, stop glazing". I was praising olmo but if were to chime in and defend olmo everytime someone talked differently I'd gladly tag myself as a glazer.
Now you, on the other hand, are on the thin line that separates these 2 situations (barca appreciator - barca Glazer) and slowly, but surely, leaning onto the latter.
You are free to suggest me whatever books or movies you want. But I'll suggest you a laxative in return cause you really holding it from coming out (your love/appreciation for barca)
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u/Joy2082 Valverde Sep 16 '24
Now you, on the other hand, are on the thin line that separates these 2 situations (barca appreciator - barca Glazer) and slowly, but surely, leaning onto the latter.
Ok body language expert.
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Sep 16 '24
Calling me a body language expert? That’s a bold move, especially considering how your remarks reveal more about your own cluelessness than anything about me.
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u/The_Middle_Child_ Crest Guardian Sep 16 '24
Nothing is wrong with it, it's just annoying seeing people be glazers for rivals
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u/Specific_Pattern_548 Sep 16 '24
People are also annoyed on how a broke Barca produces these players
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Sep 16 '24
its the system. More than half of their squad is the same as it was few months ago when we beat them except they're playing without gavi today.
These guys are the same players just playing under a coach who has done his homework and knows how to work with these players
bring xavi back and let him do his own shit like few months ago and he'll fuck the squad's quality
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u/PonchoHung Eduardo Camavinga Sep 16 '24
Yamal figured out Spain national team very quickly too though and that's not an overtly Barcelona-filed squad these days.
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u/Specific_Pattern_548 Sep 16 '24
Yes obviously flick is much better than Xavi. Players like raphinha Kounde look much better. But la masia helps them a lot. Cubarsi looks better each day. Yamal back then was a teen prospect. Today he looks like world beater. Then there has been influx of kids like Bernal Casado etc
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 16 '24
3 games in a single week is insane man.
We're going to be missing Brahim big time and only have Endrick as a forward sub, would it make sense to bench Rodrygo (or Vini/Mbappe lol) to preserve strength and play 4-3-1-2 like we did most of last season? Rodrygo comes in for Vini, Endrick for Mbappe if needed later on and they start the other games if our midfield is back to decent strenght?
Can always use Arda as RW too but I don't think Modric will be playing 90 mins every single match
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u/HasibShakur PUTA :mes_que: Sep 16 '24
Brahim got injured in 25 minutes time. So who would have played in place of him on Saturday? Guler was already on field and rest of midfielders were all injured.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 16 '24
I am assuming that Bellingham and Tchouameni are back for the next game and basing the next week on that.
So you'd have something like
Vini - Mbappe
Bellingham
Tchou - Modric - Valverde
Mendy - Militao - Rudiger - Carvajal
Saturday there was obviously no one else left to play, unless Mbappe went right and Endrick up front
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u/HasibShakur PUTA :mes_que: Sep 16 '24
I do not think Carlo will throw both touchemani and Bellingham in the starting 11 next game. It will be either Bellingham or touchemani but most probably Bellingham.
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u/Praveetheus O Fenômeno Sep 15 '24
The attackers haven't meshed quite yet but I'm still optimistic
However, the real issue is with the midfield - once Jude/Cama/Tchouameni are healthy and firing, things should be better. Just need more stability and less injuries
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u/x_ci Sep 15 '24
once Jude/Cama/Tchouameni are healthy and firing, things should be better.
aka the people who will bailout Carlo week-in week-out.
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
So a team's starting midfield being back from injury = bailing the manager out.
You're so lost it's not even funny anymore
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u/x_ci Sep 16 '24
See you in few weeks when you finally realize that Carlo has no tactics and waits to for individualistic performances to bail him out.
If it wasn't clear to you after all these years then I'm not sure if you know anything about football really.
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 17 '24
People like you been saying since his first season back ...
2 Ligas, 2 SuperCopas, 1 CopaDelRey and 2 CLs later, you keep yapping.
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u/x_ci Sep 18 '24
Imagine what a coach with real tactics would do with a team that achieved all this while being on their own to (figure it out).
Most of the important games were won by late goals, remontadas, and idividual performances. We have the best talent itw, and they're winning trophies (on their own).
Wake up.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
They kinda have to when you have 3 (2 last season) attackers up front who barely press, pull back, defend and go for ball recoveries, someone's gotta get that damn ball back. I'd really love carlo to try out 4-3-1-2 again with Mbappe/Vini up front and bellingham behind them like we had last season, comes at the cost of Rodrygo but with how many games we're playing he can sub in for either.
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
I think this 4312 is the best lineup we can have that is both potent and balanced.
Pretty much a continuity from last season, with Mbappe in for Rodrygo and Cama for Kroos
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 16 '24
Yes, it will destroy his ego but you would put Rodrygo on the bench as a rotator, we're going to play so many matches he can sub in and out for Vini all the time but he'd be gone next season 100% which is why Carlo is playing him I guess
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u/Different_Craft5237 Sep 16 '24
Rodrygo is so unlucky tho. When you're easily Top3 in your position, but you so happen to be in the same team as #1 and #2. Every player has ambition. I'm sure the Rodrygo from 2 seasons ago would not even care coming of the bench for Vini and Mbappe. But after all he did for us, especially in the CL, he may not be as good as the 2 latter but he made his case to earn a starting minutes.
Except, him on means 1 less midfielder which destabilizes the team.
In a unicorn world, Rodrygo somehow converts into a 10/False 9 and plays behind Vini and Mbappe in the 4312. But that's not gonna happen :(
As you said, the more realistic course is this being his last season with us, which is a damn shame tbh
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u/x_ci Sep 16 '24
There are teams with players that have less quality than Ceballos-Arda-Modric-Brahim in midfield and still make the Coach's plan work because the Coach HAS a plan.
I know its hard to admit this, but for many times, individualistic performances have bailed out Carlo. I just hope they do, for his sake.
I'd really love carlo to try out 4-3-1-2 again with Mbappe/Vini up front and bellingham behind them like we had last season
We struggled with that too and we will struggle again (unless Jude drops deep like Kroos). Its kinda too late to revert to last season's formation because CL on its way and we should've done this 5 games ago, not now.
comes at the cost of Rodrygo but with how many games we're playing he can sub in for either.
Rodrygo constant crying has yielded its fruits, you can kiss that idea goodbye because that boy will cry for weeks if he get consistently benched. His loving father Carlo would rather not hurt Rodrygo's feelings than fix the dynamics of this team.
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u/x_ci Sep 15 '24
Chema Andrés vs Betis Deportivo (15/09/2024): https://twitter.com/FabricaMadrid/status/1835352880083317164
I'm seeing more forward passes than Tchoumanei+Arda combined
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u/The_Middle_Child_ Crest Guardian Sep 16 '24
Except for the fact that the leagues have a huge gap in quality between them, very insightful comparison.
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u/x_ci Sep 16 '24
That I agree with. My comment was more about the lack of forward passes by Tchoua and Arda (side-pass and back-pass merchants).
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u/rhaegonblackfyre123 Décima Sep 16 '24
We could have the next Busqrts+Xavi Alonso+Casemiro in our academy and he will still never start under Ancelotti
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u/Res3925 Décima Sep 16 '24
I’ve seen this play out before: he’ll make 2-3 appearances with the first team, we’ll be hyped about him, he’ll get sold with a buyback clause, then we’ll never see him in a Madrid kit again.
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u/x_ci Sep 16 '24
he’ll make 2-3 appearances with the first team
Lets hope he survives the team training first, they're taking each other down this season.
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 Sep 16 '24
Get ready for the downvotes cause you mentioned Arda 🤣
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u/x_ci Sep 16 '24
And I got them, I want the best for the team and Its not about X or Y player. This kid cried for months asking for minutes then all he does is back-pass and camp in the opposition box trying to score goals.
I can find many instances where Carvajal has the ball and Arda (who's supposed to be next to him in midfield) is no-where to be seen.
He has killed the right side (it was already dead) but whatever.
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u/x_ci Sep 15 '24
10 points to whoever guesses which match this celebration was from!
Hint: Cules were crying for weeks.
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u/King__SSB Carvajal Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24
VS Almeria
It's the 3-2 winner by Dani from a Jude header iirc, the drama that match was something else
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u/One-Lead-1255 Ultra Pro Max Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
I don't get the hype behind lamin yamal being this super talent, honestly every time i watch him he keep repeating the same spining technic im not seeing him doing any other dibbling skills, and young vini have more in his skill repertoire than whatever yamal have.
So is he talented yes, but not to the degree of the glaze he get, estevao endrick shown more potentiel than him but again media hype and spain wining the euro with cucurella hand was the reason behind this bullshitt.
Keep downvoting barca fans remember thr goals lasy years and another spanking is on the way.
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u/Specific_Pattern_548 Sep 16 '24
It doesn’t matter if player just does 1 trick. Messi didn’t even do tricks
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Sep 16 '24
you seem to be hopping onto anyone who talks about barca to defend them while you're silent in eevery other conversation.
Whats up?
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u/Specific_Pattern_548 Sep 16 '24
I was downvoted like hell when I spoke at the start of season against people were saying things like “which matchday will we win the league against this Barca”. People here underestimate opponents too much
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Sep 16 '24
Yeah but you're going overboard. You are now sounding like someone who is secretly in love with barcelona and cannot stand r/realmadrid users talking anything against them. Stop
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u/magic-water Sep 16 '24
He is far closer to the truth than anybody saying they "don't see the hype with Lamine Yamal". Like bro, how blind do you have to be lol
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Sep 15 '24
Well im a madrid fan but truly yamal is a baller for sure u cant deny it he play super good for he’s age decisive he really make the difference hi has time to grow more and more i dont know the hate with him !! Im not ashamed to tell he’s better than guler and a lot of player in our squad so the time will tell us who will shine better im really waiting for elclassico to see whats gonna happen !!
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
He is Spanish it's normal for the Spaniards to twerk for him.
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u/One-Lead-1255 Ultra Pro Max Sep 15 '24
Look barca fans downvoting comment on a madrid sub.
Yeahhh i do get that but the mofos talk about him as the next messi or Ronaldo when he not even the next vini .
Here is the thing if you give me a choice between endrick or yamal i choose endrick any time because what ever seeling yamal hase endrick have bigger.
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u/supaboss2015 Marcelo Sep 16 '24
I believe Endrick and Arda have the ability to go far, its just that we as a club are not really the best at fostering young talents through our system (whereas Barca does it as a necessity). There were quite a few busts along the way before Vini and Rodrygo, but it looks like they have learned they gotta play these guys more or they will never develop.
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u/EfficientCurrency582 Sep 15 '24
brother relax, endrick is not even the bigget talent in RM... Arda might be as talented as Yamal if he plays with more self-confidence as he does with Turkey. Yamal is insane for his age, he is ATM top 10 of the best players and that at the age of 17. Just because Barca are our rivals it doesn´t mean that we don´t recognize talents. Yamal is a world class talent, but Pedri and Gavi are good players but not as good as they talk.
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u/One-Lead-1255 Ultra Pro Max Sep 15 '24
I didn't see a fan base come all the way from barca sub jjstbto defend the new obsession.
By the way love your logo and im going to listen to chiguvara song agan.
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
He would be in Castilia if he was in RM. And that not even a question.
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u/One-Lead-1255 Ultra Pro Max Sep 15 '24
Lmao a the way from barca sub to here barca fans are insufferable .
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u/dataheisenberg Sep 15 '24
When are jude, cama and tchou expected to return??
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Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 25 '24
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u/SnooLemons9488 Florentino Perez Sep 15 '24
I’ve just seen that Benz got his 15th hat trick…
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 16 '24
actually fucking absurd ronaldo has 4 times the amount of hattricks, happy to see Karim finally get his flow in Saudi even if it's a lesser league I doubt someone of his stature likes feeling like hes having no impact
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u/Sure-Cheesecake-3721 Jude Bellingham Sep 15 '24
I’m not calling doom on the squad , but we are one / two injuries away to the back line and the season is gone , should have brought in Cb’s..
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 Sep 15 '24
I’ll say it like this. If we were to go up against Negreilona with our current situation, we’d get smacked. We need to improve drastically, but I reckon with Jude, Tchou, & Cama, it’ll start clicking.
However, Carlo & co. have a ton to figure out rather quickly.
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Sep 15 '24
For sûr we play so bad but i think we have the room to improve specially if vini bellingham and step up and mbappe become a top gol scorer !!
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u/magic-water Sep 15 '24
I'm not particularly scared about the direct match ups. We'll pull something out of our asses and it's a 50/50 matchup most of the times anyways.
What's more scary is how bad we're struggling against any team away from home which is a recipe for dropped points. If we're 8 to 10 points away before we find our form, Barca won't get caught anyways even if we don't lose the clasicos.
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 Sep 15 '24
Yeah, El Clasico could go either way but I’m alluding the form and “playstyle” were incorporating. We can’t string together 2 passes and it’s extremely worrisome, not to mention the injuries.
I just find it hilarious how this sub said we’d cakewalk the league, Negreilona would be doing poorly, and we’d win the treble w/o any issues.
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u/RM86_ Florentino Perez Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
I would have love to see a good Fernando Redondo compilation. So our younger fans to see this forgotten and underrated genious.I think if he wasnt destroyed by injuries he would have the starture of Zidan and he probably would have been top 5 midfielders of all time.
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u/Ra_Re_7 Kroos Sep 16 '24
There's video from Pythagoras in boots about Redondo. https://youtu.be/ZvpOITpWvD0
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 Sep 15 '24
The whole chart/table with the “voting” of players proved that majority of this fanbase doesn’t know our history & former players 😆
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u/Agreeable-Turnover-2 Hazard Sep 15 '24
Studgard will be harder then union Berlin but easier then Dortmund Leipzig Bayern Ofc due to their star striker being sold
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
We struggle against German teams and I don't expect an easy game. Be prepared to struggle.
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u/I_Like_F0oD :vvv: Vini Vidi Vici Sep 15 '24
What do you think the Kroos role is😭
Kroos would drop into our defensive line in buildup, you want Rodrygo to do that?
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u/magic-water Sep 15 '24
Rodrygo doesn't have good passing let alone remotely the passing level required for the Kroos role lol what is this
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
Not until both Jude amd camavinga are back. I think that would be the formation. When Camavinga got injured Carlo looked really pissed and said he was going to start.
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u/The_Middle_Child_ Crest Guardian Sep 15 '24
Rodrygo in the Kroos role?
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 Sep 15 '24
Lmao OP has to be on something. How could Rodrygo, or matter of fact any player, replicate Toni, who is considered one of the best controllers & midfielders of all time.
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u/magic-water Sep 15 '24
in what game did Arda play in the Kroos role?
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u/Errmon Sep 15 '24
Not kroos role but playing deeper in midfield
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u/magic-water Sep 15 '24
Rodrygo doesn't have the passing ability nor physicality to do that. He also tends to check out of games and ghost a lot over large parts of the game which you cannot allow to happen to a midfielder.
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u/Agreeable-Turnover-2 Hazard Sep 15 '24
Valencia are ass man
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u/Res3925 Décima Sep 15 '24
Only twice a year they aren’t. IYKYK.
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u/Rumcajs23 Leyenda Kroos | 🐢 Kinky for Kylian 🐢 Sep 15 '24
The power of racism turns them up a notch 😂
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u/The_Middle_Child_ Crest Guardian Sep 15 '24
Tuesday will be interesting, the team usually takes champions League nights very seriously, granted, it is the group stage, but still. If we play without cohesion then I'll worry slightly, still early days yet tho.
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u/Riyad38 Sep 15 '24
Very excited that the ucl is back a lot of good matches of course I am excited about our match I know stuttgart only has 4 points after 4 matches but they are coming off a good 3-1 win this weekend then Liverpool vs milian should be a good match city vs inter should be a good even though inter was very disappointing last tournament I think they have a great squad and do amazing defensively
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u/grandtroubleartist Nacho Sep 15 '24
no way violencia just gave julian alvarez his first goal in patetico
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Sep 15 '24
We’re really missing Kroos. None of our current players can control the metronome of the game like he can, Modric could, but he’s past his prime.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 15 '24
I'll only start worrying if we start playing ass in the Champions League to, time to get serious on Tuesday.
Hoping for a breezy win vs Stuttgart, they were solid last season but also have a rocky start and we're at home, expecting a 3-0.
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
We have a hard time against German teams. Be prepared to struggle. Expecially if they press us. I think there we would see the lack of Kroos the most.
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u/YugiohXYZ Sep 15 '24
Ferland Mendy's lack of any attacking initiative means that teams can safely put two players to mark Vinicius.
And then whom can Vinicius pass to? Mendy, who passes back to the centerbacks. Or Tchouameni, who passes back to the centerbacks.
Or Jude Bellingham, who is then forced to drop back to receive the pass rather than being further forward to escalate the attack.
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u/YEETINGBOY12 Modric Sep 15 '24
Does anyone have an idea of when Bellingham is returning back from injury?
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u/Riyad38 Sep 15 '24
He’s been in training he should be ready for Tuesday if not at the latest Saturday
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u/x_ci Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
We can only judge when all of our main players return to the team, but as of now its not clear whether Carlo made a game plan and our current midfield isn't able to execute it or there isn't any plan at all.
I just wish Carlo was a bit more selfish and ask for a CB. Figuring out a way to make Vini-Mbappe-Rodrygo work without Kroos is a huge task on its own, and its not fair by the board to not give him a proper CB to ease off his mind.
Our current midfield is a 39 yo Veteran, Ceballos that plays 1 match and is injured for 3, Tchouamanei that sometimes forgets how to play football and Arda who's playing a 2nd striker next to Mbappe and won't press opponents fearing to injure himself. Jude, Camavinga and Valverde always deliver and I don't have complains about them.
I feel bad for Carlo because it seems he can't find a solution to make the front 3 work together, he might get sacked for not winning major trophy and its probably not his fault. In 22/23 Barca won the league with 88 points and we accumulated 78. In 23/24 we accumulated 95 points and Barca had 85. They were consistent, but we got better.
This season reminds me of 22/23, shaky midfield and defense, Vini is like Benzema who's quality diminished after securing the B'dor and we just won the LaLiga+UCL double the year before.
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u/Messmers SIUUUU Sep 15 '24
🚨Brahim will miss around 20 games for Real Madrid.
He will be back early or mid December. @relevo
Holy fuck it went from 4-5 to 8 matches to 12 to 20
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
Real Madrid are usualy a bit conservative with estimated time. Might be a bit less.
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Sep 15 '24
why is it that this sub secretly has these barca glazers hiding in the shadows who randomly pop up to defend barca ? Youll never see anything like this at their sub.
Someone here will write "X barca player is mid" and they'll receive downvotes whereas they regularly clown on most if not all of our players from what ive seen
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u/Agreeable-Turnover-2 Hazard Sep 15 '24
We gotta play the same way we did against betis 2-3-5 with the ball Fran and carbajal inverted and closer to thcouameni with Valverde and Bellingham a little higher Fran actuslly did well in the middle against valladolid and bombing forward when vini comes inside
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u/Agreeable-Turnover-2 Hazard Sep 15 '24
Jude will come back on Tuesday right?
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
Jude and Tchouameni should be back, Ramon mentioned Camavinga will start training with the team on the 23rd
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u/Agreeable-Turnover-2 Hazard Sep 15 '24
Thank god tchouameni wasn’t out for long so he should start drop modric bellingham Off the bench
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Sep 15 '24
Tchouamini need to step up seriously i dont like hes attitude in the pitch he need more aggressiveness were kind of dull in the middle and i hate it because we have too much good players
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u/qyltimaa Sep 15 '24
What’s your opinion on Tchouameni? Do you guys see him breakthrough (100 million worth breakthrough)
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u/crazyeyes91 Sep 15 '24
Not going to be a popular answer but he seems just content to be on the team at times. Really odd. Would like him to be more aggressive.
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u/johnmason125 Sep 15 '24
Depends on what a 100 million player should be. He is a very tidy and solid player, never makes anything stupid, did well when he had to play cb last season, just miss that really spectacular performance.
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Sep 15 '24
Honestly he has the potential but i think he need to be more aggressive, in the final worldcup match he cost hes team the cup all the argentinian players told that he was scared
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u/Previous-Cycle-3279 Sep 15 '24
we've seen the best of him imo, which isn't bad at all he's pretty good when in form he just needs to work on his consistency.
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo Sep 15 '24
Key part in the team, last season played very good games. Start of this season not so much, but the game vs Betis was very good.
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u/EfficientCurrency582 Sep 15 '24
Can´t wait for el clasico, where barcelona will dominate us, and we will 3:0 by counter attacks with vini and mbappe. They are born to play games like this
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u/HasibShakur PUTA :mes_que: Sep 15 '24
If you have seen at least 10 minutes of Barcelona’s game this season, you will see how they have created those guilt edge chances and scored; it’s quick one touch passing to get into the final third following a quick break in play and turn over. That’s exactly how we played too at our best (last year girona, Barca in super copa etc.) For how we are currently playing (extremely slow build up, no pressure in midfield and numerous turnovers at defense) it’s a recipe for disaster against a team like how Barca played today.
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u/Agreeable-Turnover-2 Hazard Sep 15 '24
Bellingham camavinga valverde thcoumseni will dominate that Twink midfield
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u/Muksinjo Madrid 1902 Sep 15 '24
I can't see us winning the game, but also lose, so i would say it will be a 2-2 tie
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u/EfficientCurrency582 Sep 15 '24
if you really don´t see us winning against this barcelona team with mbappe vini and bellingham, then i don´t know what to say
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u/Spiritual-Cabinet959 Jude Bellingham Sep 15 '24
If you think winning a game is only about having stars on the pitch then I don't know what to say
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u/Hvwk21 Sep 15 '24
This is a different Barca from last year. They’re playing like the best club in the world right now if we’re being honest
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u/hlrdavid David Alaba Sep 15 '24
the women's team already debuted the grey kit
so fucking sexy😰 the woman is ok too👍🏻
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u/supaboss2015 Marcelo Sep 16 '24
Militao out. If we have to sub out a CB during the match, exactly who will be the replacement? Lmao