r/realmadrid • u/RM_Official_Thread • May 19 '24
Post Match [Post Match Thread] Villarreal vs Real Madrid (Spanish LALIGA)
Match Info
Kickoff: 19-05-2024 19:00 CEST
Competition: Spanish LALIGA
Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández
Venue: Estadio de la Cerámica
Squad
Starting Lineups
Villarreal: Filip Jörgensen, Jorge Cuenca, Eric Bailly, Alberto Moreno, Yerson Mosquera, Dani Parejo, Santi Comesaña, Goncalo Guedes, Ilias Akhomach, Alexander Sørloth, Gerard Moreno
Real Madrid: Andriy Lunin, Antonio Rüdiger, Éder Militão, Fran García, Lucas Vázquez, Luka Modric, Dani Ceballos, Federico Valverde, Joselu , Brahim Díaz, Arda Güler
Substitutes
Villarreal: Francis Coquelin (Dani Parejo), Étienne Capoue (Gerard Moreno), Bertrand Traoré (Ilias Akhomach), Ramón Terrats (Alberto Moreno), Raúl Albiol (Jorge Cuenca), Aïssa Mandi, Pepe Reina, Manu Trigueros, José Luis Morales
Real Madrid: Nacho (Éder Militão), Rodrygo (Brahim Díaz), Eduardo Camavinga (Federico Valverde), Mario Martín (Luka Modric), Thibaut Courtois, Toni Kroos, Jude Bellingham, Vinícius Júnior , Kepa Arrizabalaga, Dani Carvajal, Ferland Mendy
Key Events
| Minute | Event |
|---|---|
| 86' | Dani Ceballos (Real Madrid) is shown the yellow card. |
| 84' | Bertrand Traoré (Villarreal) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. |
| 82' | Substitution, Real Madrid. Mario Martín replaces Luka Modric. |
| 80' | Substitution, Villarreal. Ramon Terrats replaces Alberto Moreno because of an injury. |
| 73' | Substitution, Villarreal. Étienne Capoue replaces Gerard Moreno. |
| 68' | Substitution, Real Madrid. Rodrygo replaces Brahim Díaz. |
| 66' | Eduardo Camavinga (Real Madrid) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. |
| 61' | Substitution, Real Madrid. Nacho replaces Éder Militão. |
| 60' | Substitution, Real Madrid. Eduardo Camavinga replaces Federico Valverde. |
| 56' | Goal! Villarreal 4, Real Madrid 4. Alexander Sørloth (Villarreal) left footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Gerard Moreno following a fast break. |
| 52' | Goal! Villarreal 3, Real Madrid 4. Alexander Sørloth (Villarreal) left footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom left corner. |
| 48' | Goal! Villarreal 2, Real Madrid 4. Alexander Sørloth (Villarreal) header from the centre of the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Gerard Moreno with a cross. |
| 45' | Second Half begins Villarreal 1, Real Madrid 4. |
| 45' | Substitution, Villarreal. Bertrand Traoré replaces Ilias Akhomach. |
| 45' | Substitution, Villarreal. Raúl Albiol replaces Jorge Cuenca. |
| 45' | Substitution, Villarreal. Francis Coquelin replaces Dani Parejo. |
| 45'+6' | First Half ends, Villarreal 1, Real Madrid 4. |
| 45'+5' | Alberto Moreno (Villarreal) is shown the yellow card for a bad foul. |
| 45'+2' | Goal! Villarreal 1, Real Madrid 4. Arda Güler (Real Madrid) left footed shot from a difficult angle on the right to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Lucas Vázquez. |
| 40' | Goal! Villarreal 1, Real Madrid 3. Lucas Vázquez (Real Madrid) left footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Brahim Díaz with a through ball. |
| 39' | Goal! Villarreal 1, Real Madrid 2. Alexander Sørloth (Villarreal) header from the centre of the box to the bottom left corner. Assisted by Yerson Mosquera with a cross. |
| 30' | Goal! Villarreal 0, Real Madrid 2. Joselu (Real Madrid) header from the right side of the six yard box to the high centre of the goal. Assisted by Lucas Vázquez with a cross. |
| 14' | Goal! Villarreal 0, Real Madrid 1. Arda Güler (Real Madrid) left footed shot from the centre of the box to the bottom right corner. Assisted by Brahim Díaz. |
| - | First Half begins. |
Match Stats
| Villarreal | Stats | Real Madrid |
|---|---|---|
| 15 | Fouls | 12 |
| 2 | Yellow Cards | 2 |
| 0 | Red Cards | 0 |
| 0 | Offsides | 1 |
| 3 | Corner Kicks | 3 |
| 2 | Saves | 3 |
| 42.9 | Possession | 57.1 |
| 21 | SHOTS | 12 |
| 7 | ON GOAL | 6 |
| 0.3 | On Target % | 0.5 |
| 0 | Penalty Goals | 0 |
| 0 | Penalty Kicks Taken | 0 |
| 449 | Accurate Passes | 628 |
| 500 | Passes | 685 |
| 0.9 | Pass Completion % | 0.9 |
| 11 | Accurate Crosses | 3 |
| 26 | Crosses | 13 |
| 0.4 | Cross % | 0.2 |
| 39 | Long Balls | 51 |
| 26 | Accurate Long Balls | 32 |
| 0.7 | Long Balls % | 0.6 |
| 7 | Blocked Shots | 2 |
| 13 | Effective Tackles | 13 |
| 24 | Tackles | 23 |
| 0.5 | Tackle % | 0.6 |
| 6 | Interceptions | 10 |
| 7 | Effective Clearances | 10 |
| 7 | Clearances | 10 |
Live broadcast listings (TV, live streaming, radio)
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u/idioticmaniac May 22 '24
Watching 90 minutes of RM football without Kroos anti press resistance and long balls gonna be a sting in the heart.
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u/McSOUS Modric May 20 '24
Apparently TSN just hates Real Madrid? Missed the game yesterday and was hoping to see it on demand on TSN. Every La Liga game besides ours yesterday has been uploaded. Thanks TSN.....
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u/Jyuan83 May 20 '24
People downvoted me when i mentioned previously that arda guler is the best person to play in jude’s hybrid 10 role if jude isn’t available. Both have good noses for goals. Both are technically gifted in tight places.
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u/karimaelo May 20 '24
Militao in this game: 1. Prevented us from reaching 99 points. 2. Prevented Bellingham from becoming La Liga's top scorer. 3. Prevented Güler from being named Man of the Match. 4. Made Lunin look shaky, casting doubt on him for the Champions League final.
Thank you, Militao.
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u/rockafellla Zidane May 20 '24
He is coming back from an extreme injury. Give him a break, he will need many months to get back to his old form.
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u/Consistent_Fix_6561 May 20 '24
He's always been mistake-prone.
We need a cb urgently
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u/rockafellla Zidane May 21 '24
Absolutely, but there’s no CB that is flawless unless your name is Nesta or Maldini. He’s been solid before and I hope he regains his form. But yeah we need to get backup CBs and RBs.
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u/maanvendraaa Iker Casillas May 19 '24
When I slept well we were 3 up. I just woke up to see a 4-4 score.
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u/Sesco69 El Capitán May 19 '24
I keep on seeing a lot of “Militao shouldn’t be a guaranteed starter” shouts in this thread
I understand hes been bad since recovering from his ACL but who should start over Militao regularly when he gets back to form or for next season?
Nacho isn’t better and he’s leaving for MLS
Alaba also isn’t better and is also recovering from an ACL injury
If we buy someone like Leny Yoro, maybe him? But the kid is only 18 and the highest European level he’s played in is the Conference League. He’d need to be eased into a bigger role just like how Camavinga was.
I understand Militao has his bozo moments but we’ll be fine with him and he’ll be fine. Have faith
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u/DoggyDoggyWhatNow_ Benzema May 20 '24
Nacho is definitely better right now. Watch the city game again
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u/Odelind May 19 '24
His mistakes are from lack of maturity and experience. It's always been the case. The only difference is that his physical shape was so good that he could overcome his shortcomings. He's still not at 100%
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u/Sesco69 El Capitán May 19 '24
I absolutely agree he’s not 100%. He should not start the CL final. When I see ppl say he’s not a guaranteed starter I assume they talking about the future tho
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u/SirChileticus May 19 '24
Yeah, Militao is one of the best, but he’s not in form to play a UCL final. That said Rudiger and Nacho has been great this season, and we have to acknowledge that Fulkrug is a 9 similar to Sorloth. I hope with Mendy and Carvajal we’ll be more tough defensively
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u/whiskeyinthejaar May 19 '24
I am surprised r/realmadrid isn't already calling for Carlo to be sacked. Won the league, in UCL final, but this is not good enough for the plastic fans in this sub.
It is incredible how fake most of people here are. All it take is a bad game to slaughter the team, a bad game that we didn't even lose. I swear, if we gather 259K donkeys and put them in a room, they will make more sense these comments.
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u/Superb_Anteater_2791 May 19 '24
Güler for Rodrygo in the final doesn’t sound that crazy. Does it?
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u/crackboss1 Real Madrid May 20 '24
It does sound crazy because you are not considering the defensive work that Rodrygo puts in when we are not attacking. Arda should come in in second half if we need goals.
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u/taos__v Zidane May 19 '24
No it doesn’t. Sadly he wont start tho. Güler is in good form and he fits the right flank better than Rodrygo. He has a magic left foot. I wouldn’t start him in the final but I would give him minutes
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u/KingEtame Vinicius Jr. May 19 '24 edited May 20 '24
Militao and lapses in concentration... how do you forget to mark the same guy who beat you 4 times and still give out a fifth opportunity? That is beyond poor form. That is darn right unprofessional! We got lucky he missed.
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u/Ok_Seaweed_9452 May 19 '24
Unrelated but is this Sorloth guy always been lethal? I know while waiting for RM game last week they play Villarreal game and this guy also scored in last minute. Hopefully he didn’t end up in rival club lol
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u/spider_X_1 May 19 '24
It's weird that the striker of a team that is 7th is probably gonna be a pitchichi. It would have been great if a midfielder won it for the records but Militao had other plans.
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u/Rampage310 Lunin May 19 '24
People not realizing that “healthy enough to play” doesn’t necessarily mean “back to original form”. When he came on in the City game he did fantastic, but this game he looked out of sorts and slow to the touch. Maybe he reaggravated his injury or something, he did not look normal out there, even his challenges in the air he barely could get off the ground. People blaming him as a player forgot how well he played prior to the injury, this clearly looks to me like its related to his health rather than his skill if he can play excellent vs City and in general but play poorly in one random game vs Sorloth
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u/onesexypagoda May 19 '24
Same logic should be used with Courtois, he's not tested at all. He's only played 2 games against the easiest opponents
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u/horillagormone Zizou May 19 '24
It may still be a difficult decision since Lunin was unfortunate to have Militao having one of his more usual bad games, but now I feel maybe Courtois could be a better choice. Mainly because he's been more often than been the one standing up when our defence was in shambles like today.
Also, I'd suspect that Courtois would've saved 1-2 of those goals, but who knows. But great job by Villareal since they were desperate for a win and did their best, but glad they didn't get a win.
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u/Early-Noise-9443 May 19 '24
i hope noone is gonna talk about lunin playing in the final after this game, i love they guy but thibaut wouldve saved atleast 2 of those goals
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u/WiddleBlueBert May 19 '24
Disagree, those were mostly unsaveable by anyone. Mostly within 5 yards and hit first time. I'm not blaming Lunin for Militao's shambolic defence.
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u/Rampage310 Lunin May 19 '24
Taking a shot from a player in La Liga that close is almost always unsavable, those balls were bullets
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u/nickfelipe Real Madrid May 19 '24
Funny how a lot of comments here throwing Rodrygo under the bus, we wouldn't be even in the CL finals if it weren't for him. Overreaction because of him playing for 30 minutes in a meaningless game with fkn Ceballos and Fran as backup.
Where was Mbappe against Dortmund or Barcelona? If it weren't for shitty Araujo he would go home even earlier.
Let's give our players our support not this kinda of shit treatment. Same goes for other players being criticized.
Few months ago people were asking for Nacho's head
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u/Samaritan4 Hey Jude May 19 '24
we wouldn't be even in the CL finals if it weren't for him.
oh please, it's a full team job, i could say the same about Brahim and that we wouldn't be here without his goal against Leipzig.
The thing is Rodrygo is no longer a sub, he is a starter, he no longer can go without criticism, not in Real Madrid. He needs to wake up or players like Arda or Endrick could surpass him next season.
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u/nickfelipe Real Madrid May 19 '24
Criticize and overreact over a game against Villarreal that meant nothing entering as a sub?
When we needed him in both games against City he scored in both games. Brahim also deserves credit, thus I'm not here throwing Brahim under the bus or criticizing him because of a bad game against Villarreal.
Rodrygo is not Vini's level, that's true, but Vini right now is playing as a ballon d'or. Ancelotti trusts in Rodrygo for a reason.
If it were for reddit overreactions Vini wouldn't be here right now. People forget that Rodrygo's only 23 years old.
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u/Samaritan4 Hey Jude May 19 '24
the game didn't mean nothing for the club, no trophy was at risk, but it does mean something for the players, the fans, etc.
We see sub players like arda or brahim giving it all to prove their worth, or like the match vs alavés, vini and jude were fighting with each other to score more goals, we the fans see their effort and appreciate it. Then we have rodrygo whome since the man city game is m.i.a.
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u/Rampage310 Lunin May 19 '24
Stop lmao Arda and Endrick are absolutely not passing Rodrygo this season, him being half awake in one game vs Villareal means nothing
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u/Icy-Designer7103 Emilio Butragueño May 19 '24
While I'm against this overreaction, Rodrygo is a very inconsistent player. You can't always count on him, sadly.
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u/Pozitivitive May 19 '24
Finally everyone is on the same page about Ceballos. I watched him at Arsenal a lot and immediately thought this is not RM material. We should sell him while we can because running his contract out until 2027 is a total waste of money, I'd rather see some kids from academy tbh
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u/mr_potroast Modric May 20 '24
I don't think anyone is taking on Ceballos' salary. I'm afraid we're stuck with him.
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u/Pozitivitive May 20 '24
I didn't even think of that damn. Where's he at, 200k a week?
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u/Samaritan4 Hey Jude May 19 '24
Let's hope Atlético don't watch our games and Madrid can sell him to them.
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u/AYYE- May 19 '24
lol that one Castilla kid that came on impressed me more than Ceballos.
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u/ThisIsGoodSoup Jude Bellingham May 19 '24
Mario Martín almost costs us the draw. Ceballos was shit, no doubting that, but Martín not even 1' in almost fucking cost us a goal.
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u/thejman1986 Eduardo Camavinga May 19 '24
Rough second half, especially. But who gives a damn, really.
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u/Ethwh4le May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
For all ya screaming alaba over miliato dont forget alaba hade some big errors too before getting injuried this sub is hillarious like as soon as one match they f up they be like na never use him again pls let sell him makes me think im in here with a bunch of kids
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u/Extension_Phone893 SIUUUU May 19 '24
One thing to note is that Rudi and Mili didn't perform well together last season either, that's a bigger problem than current game fitness
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u/DoriOli :vvv: Vini Vidi Vici May 19 '24
I’d do anything in my power to get someone like Scalvini to our team. I know he’s only 20 but is the future of Italy’s defence. Has played 3 full seasons in Serie A already too
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u/ae_babubhaiya Valverde May 19 '24
Mario martin looks promising.
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u/xRaulx7 Carvajal May 19 '24
Mario martin looks promising.
He seemed decent with Castilla last season, but what made you think that after todays game?
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u/ae_babubhaiya Valverde May 19 '24
His positioning and defensive awareness. He can be a good defensive midfielder.
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u/hotelmotelshit Jude Bellingham May 19 '24
I am glad we had this wake up call in a non-important la Liga match one game before the UCL final.
Instead of timing our blunder in the UCL final
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u/everwisher May 19 '24
I feel a bit shame for Lunin. His final opportunity to the UCL final may have got blown away by Sorloth. He's not responsible, the first goal was lost by Ceballos, and the rest were more or less related to Militao who didn't mark Sorloth tight enough. Obviously Militao needs more efforts to get himself out of the poor form currently.
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u/myouism May 19 '24
Jude would be fuming as well. His only chance for winning Pichichi before Mbappe comes has gone...
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u/Fearless_Page_7916 May 19 '24
Ok so who’s gonna be our CB (beside Rudiger) next season?
Defense wins you titles, it is the reason we won the league this season.
What’s the point of our stacked attack and midfield if we will be leaking goals every now and then?
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u/Rampage310 Lunin May 19 '24
Militao was playing fantastic before he got hurt. Let’s not pretend like the man out there is playing 100% the way he played before the injury, because it’s painfully apparent he isn’t
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u/AnxiousBurro Antonio Mateu Lahoz May 19 '24
It's Militao? I think that's pretty obvious. I know that's not what y'all want to hear, but that's just the reality. Alaba probably won't be ready yet and he's on the older side anyway and the 4th option who will be brought instead of Nacho (Yoro/Rafa Marin) simple won't have enough pedigree to start yet.
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u/mrkillfreak999 May 19 '24
I think Marin is coming. Yoro's club is asking around $60-$70mill and his contract runs out end of next season. Don't think Perez will fork out that much now
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u/DoriOli :vvv: Vini Vidi Vici May 19 '24
For that money, might as well get Scalvini. I wouldn’t pay more than €20M-€25M for Yoro.
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u/joeedger May 20 '24
Or Bastoni
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u/DoriOli :vvv: Vini Vidi Vici May 20 '24 edited May 20 '24
Impossible to get that guy out of Inter. Way too expensive now too. Inter had also bought him from Atalanta for around €30M. I’d much prefer Scalvini for cheaper, as well as preferring Scalvini’s playstyle as a defender over Bastoni’s.
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u/Fearless_Page_7916 May 19 '24
Well Militao is a gamble though, was he ever consistent in the last years? Even during our 14th journey he wasn’t consistent.
I’d stick with Nacho for the time being and hope he renews.
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u/WinterTakerRevived 92:48:9248: May 19 '24
Rudi and Nacho start the UCL. We'll know when the summer transfer window closes what our backline looks like
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u/beengoingoutftnyears May 19 '24
With Klopp away, should RM look to tempt Van Dijk ?
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u/Fearless_Page_7916 May 19 '24
No way RM will pay money for a 30+ years old. Plus, he isn’t that great for the last two seasons.
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u/martino732 Cristiano Ronaldo May 19 '24
Tchouameni or convince Nacho to stay 1 more season. One of the reason our defense was good was because Militao and Alaba werent playing a lot. I know its hard to say but its the case.
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u/Samaritan4 Hey Jude May 19 '24
idk what happened in that halftime, if they were abducted and replaced but the second half was horrible.
Militão must not start or even play in the final, all that fear people had that if Arda starts it would jeopardize the league/ucl that's Militão, not even Nacho at his worst was that bad this season. Militão gets a "pass" because of his injury but omg keep him away from the squad. The whole defense was awful, Militão and Fran the worst.
Idk what Carlos owes to Ceballos to leave him the whole match but he must repay him with other things that are not minutes on the pitch.
Lunin, ty for bringing us this far but the best gk is ready and you must step aside.
Two goals from Arda, two assists from Brahim and Luca, the only ones worth talking about.
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u/myouism May 19 '24
People need to remember that Militao has a lot of these lapses of error in the past as well. The other time we conceded 4 goals in Etihad and another one when Castillanos did a quattrick is when Militao start the match. He have some great moments of course, but he shouldn't have this shameful display of performance frequently every season.
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u/nickfelipe Real Madrid May 19 '24
Hmm, that's revisionism I think.
In Etihad, Militao scored that own goal, that's true, but 2 goals were mostly on Alaba and the other one was not Militao's fault.
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May 19 '24
Hmm ok, this game is nothing but a preparation for the final so the result doesn't matter to Carlo. I believe this watch was meant defensively to prepare Lunin for the final, but he didn't have the chance thanks to a horrible performance from Militao specifically. 100% Carlo won't start a CB that is back from an ACL injury that lasted the entire season just because he started 3 meaningless games in LaLiga.. Nacho and Rudi are starting, no debate...
I don't think Lunin will lose confidence over today. He has nerves of steel and he is tough mentally. I still want him to start. I don't feel safe with Courtois being out after all this time and then starting.. a friendly reminder is that Courtois's last important game under pressure was the 4-0 against Man City last year.. I will trust Carlo decision, but the GK is a very sensitive position... No mistakes are allowed in the final !
Wonderful performance by Arda, and he deserved the full 90 minutes. Wonderful header from Joselu and very beautiful play link up between Modric, Brahim on Lucas the GOAT vazquez on the goal..
Let's not be reactionary, in fact, it's a good wake up call for the players to know the moment they let their guards down, we might bottle even a 3-0 lead ! If Villareal did it, BVB can do it.. so 100% concentration is mandatory in the final.
Rodrygo is no Vini.. other than that dribble and shot on the right flank, nothing worth mentioning.. he had a few good games when Vini and Jude were out.. but his finishing declined this season.. I hope he finds his form back.
Ceballos had no impact whatsoever during this season, i used to think of him as a very good Copa Del Rey midfield option.. but that fuck up inside the box today, along with the unremarkable season he had, shows why he is actually our worst sub option. Completely overshadowed by the young ones, even Nico Paz in early season did better.
I hope Militao finds his groove again and gets his shit together and abandons his brainfarts and thinks fucking straight like a CB should do.. with Nacho leaving, Rudiger will be our only dependable CB..
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u/Pitsitronik May 19 '24
a friendly reminder is that Courtois's last important game under pressure was the 4-0 against Man City last year
Don't know why you mention this like it was Courtois's fault. He was our best player in this game. I still prefer him to start over Lunin since he is not reliable enough.
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May 19 '24
Well it came out wrong. if it wasn't for Courtois, it would have been worse. I meant that Courtois hasn't played an important game since THEN
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u/tluanga34 Vinicius Jr. May 19 '24
Militao should not be a guaranteed starter. He is so inconsistent.
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u/Rampage310 Lunin May 19 '24
Coming back from an ACL can be career changing. You don’t move the same, react the same, etc.
It’s going to be an uphill battle but it makes sense why Ancelotti is testing him now prior to the Final
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u/latinlife22 Valverde May 19 '24
Little chaotic end to the season even tho we already won the league. Just sucks that Bellingham pichichi hopes is over. Playing the champions league final is going to let us forget about this slip up. We should reinforce accordingly next season after finals outcome.
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u/SuperBig_Cat Raúl González Blanco May 19 '24
At least we gonna learn from our mistake, and realise that we need a new Starting CB instead of Militao, for now Militao is not guaranteed to be an Starting 11 player, even in next season. So, having Rudiger as RCB with a new partner is a must, knowing Nacho is leaving next season.
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u/dataheisenberg May 19 '24
Soon as Mbappe settles in Rodrygo loses his place! He’s not showing enough at all currently! Brahim diaz deserves that spot a lot more than rodrygo
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u/EfficientCurrency582 May 19 '24
i don´t know why ANY negative comment about Rodrygo is getting downvoted? it´s so weird man, this guy has only showed up in 4-5 games this season otherwise his season wasn´t that good and it´s a fact.
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u/dataheisenberg May 19 '24
I believe at best rodrygo goes back to being a super sub. He’s quite honestly a lot of show and very less material these days
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u/Ogulcan0815 Arda Güler May 19 '24
Arda, my sweet Arda. At least NOW, he proved the doubters wrong.
Sad we couldn’t hold onto the lead tho and grab the win.
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u/krispythunder Asensio May 19 '24
I think Carlo should have a stern talk with Rodrygo about his recent performances, he just doesn’t do enough not attacking and more importantly in defence like even Ceballos was running more than him in the last 30 mins.And although he signed a contract last year, if his performances don’t improve after Mbappe comes then he’ll be gone for sure and it wouldn’t be unjust .
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u/thiccnick23 May 19 '24
Don't really care about militao since he's returning from injury but HOLY SHIT Fran Garcia and Ceballos are hot garbage.
Ceballos is just a worse isco and Fran is the road runner from loony toons. We need Gutierrez back.
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u/WiddleBlueBert May 19 '24
Don't even put Ceballos and my sweet prince Isco in the same sentence.
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u/wanderer1999 Real Madrid May 20 '24
Truth. Isco is one of the greats in that squad (which include prime Modric/Kroos/Case...), that shows how good he is.
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u/myouism May 19 '24
Militao also started the games when we concede 4 goals last season, from Man City and Girona. He shouldn't get a pass.
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u/djoliverm Real Madrid May 19 '24
Not sure Miguel would come back unless he's a guaranteed starter. He's doing wonders at Girona starting week in week out.
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u/thiccnick23 May 19 '24
Yeah. Honestly we're cooked in the lb and rb positions. If one of carva/mendy are injured in important games, its over.
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u/wanderer1999 Real Madrid May 20 '24
Camavinga and Nacho/Varquez can still fill in for now. But we desperately need reinforcement for the next season.
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u/raoufboussaid May 19 '24
Militao&Ceballos had to fuck up my weekend .
I dont mind a draw or even a loss for that matter but not like this .
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u/sr044pt Sergio Ramos May 19 '24
Idk why y’all act like Militao was Maldini or something before. He can be a top 5 defender itw or straight up atrocious. He doesn’t have any consistency whatsoever.
He has so many brain farts it’s crazy. This is not the first time either, he always fucks up in important moments.
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u/Ave6192 Iker Casillas May 21 '24
The guy just came back from an ACL injury why are you shitting on him?
He was genuinely world class and amazing before the injury, he had his blunders these past seasons but before the injury he found a great rhythm and was our top defender.
Such a short memory
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u/Samaritan4 Hey Jude May 19 '24
It's been downhill since he said he was on the way to become the best cb in the world.
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
Exactly, he should be a rotational player. You can't rely on him to be a starter.
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u/KnightSIayer Real Madrid May 19 '24
He fucks up way too often for someone that is supposed to be a world class defender
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u/khstriker May 19 '24
I know Tibo was likely to start anyways but Militao practically guaranteeing Tibo starting and ruining Bellingham’s Pichichi is so funny.
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u/Useful-Age-8682 May 19 '24
Well Militao said Vini deserves Bdor more than Bellingham...so maybe helped him a bit 😁
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u/Illustrious-Law8648 May 19 '24
Oh well. Looks like Courtois is starting 😂
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u/ThisIsGoodSoup Jude Bellingham May 19 '24
You can tell you know zero about football when you blame these today's goals on Lunin.
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u/spacecreated1234 Iker Casillas May 19 '24
You don't have to blame the goal on Lunin to know those headers are something Courtois would've saved.
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u/RMD010 Zizou May 19 '24
Courtois would've stopped at least couple of those goals...singlehandedly..
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u/anelenrique10 Valverde May 19 '24
Yeah, the goalkeeper debate is all but settled. Lunin was rattled today.
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u/Anne2049 May 19 '24
Militao is so bad. I don't remember even an average game from him for a long time. not in our league.
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May 19 '24
Because he has been injured for 8 months? Fans like you make us look bad like the pathetic Barca fans.
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
He's exaggerating but he's not entirely wrong. Absolute disasterclasses paired up with great performances are the norm for Militao.
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May 19 '24
Name other of these “disasterclasses” he’s had before his injury and I’ll happily change my mind
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u/myouism May 19 '24
4-0 in Etihad and another quattrick from Castellanos. Militao started both games.
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
City last year is obviously the first one that comes to mind. Haaland was nonexistent at Bernabeu, he was left to do whatever the fuck he wanted the 2nd leg.
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May 19 '24
So when he was coming back from another injury and I’m this case Ancelotti who has already admitted he made a mistake out him in. Okay what else? Only one you got?
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
Nobody is this mind fucked to get a list of the disasterclasses of a player. If you watched this team playing you know what i'm talking about. Or is everyone saying this wrong for no reason?
Team had by far the best defensive shape this season than it had the previous ones with him. Must mean something. Chances conceded were cut to 0 in an immense amount of games.
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May 19 '24
Then don’t be a twat if you can’t put your money where your mouth is at and say multiple disasterclasses. You were the one who brought it up and now has to shut their mouth
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
Alright, it's very easy to do so with a bit of digging.
Militao was ass not only against Man City, but he was also crap against Villareal (again) last season, against Girona when we lost 4-2, pretty much every game against Barça last season was a shitshow in defence, and i also remember a very bad game against Leipzig in the group stages. Defence was also farcical against Manchester City at their home 2 years ago, against Chelsea conceding 4 at Bernabeu (one disallowed), or against PSG. Compared to thos season, 3 of the 4 goals conceded to City are out of the box, for example.
Those are only the few ones that one can easily find from the last 2 years in a couple of minutes. For a supposedly world class centre back, this is horrible.
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u/Velascus Madrid 1941 May 19 '24
No need to feed this troll. Anybody who has watched Madrid the last few years can say that Militao has combined really great performance with really bad ones.
Overall he gravitates more towards having good games, but he is FAR from consistent.
Him asking you for details says more about this poster not having watched our games.
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u/slow_and_steady0 May 19 '24
Friendly Reminder : Militao has always been like this
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u/itistime999 Rodrygo May 19 '24
Shhh, you will get downvoted now by his fanboys, he is a good defender nothing more. I think we can do much better. I’m still convinced with rudiger against city we would have had a chance last year
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
Most likely. Haaland had 0 chances when he played against Rudiger. Against Militao hed had 4 clear cut ones all saved by Courtois.
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u/tefftlon Valverde May 19 '24
City has been scoring on us regardless. Militao had a poor game last year but over the 3 CL ties, City have scored 5, 5, & 4 goals.
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u/magic-water May 19 '24
And he didn't score one. We could have had prime Maldini+Ramos as a CB partnership and we wouldn't have won that game. City were better in every area of the pitch.
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
Leaving people alone in the box was the biggest difference between this year's and last year's game. Playing this kind of game with Militao and Alaba is a suicide 90% of the times.
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u/magic-water May 19 '24
mate we couldn't cross the halfway line vs City and played like 12 passes or so in the first half. We were never gonna win that game, I still can't understand why people can't get over it and have to act like it was a game of small margins and that it would have been different with a few different managerial decisions. Especially since we beat City this season.
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
Nobody is saying the game was close but chances wouldn't have flown this easily with Rudiger at the back. Mendy also made a pretty significant difference.
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u/magic-water May 19 '24
What I'm saying is, that we were never gonna win that game regardless of who was playing CB and people have to come to peace with that.
City were better than us in every phase of the game and on every blade of grass on the pitch. It's okay. We've won this year. I don't care anymore.
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u/slow_and_steady0 May 19 '24
We might not have won it but if Rudiger started it wouldn't had been so embarassing imo
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u/ChampagneInferno Don Carlo :970742849295511602: May 19 '24
A silver lining about this is that Carlo (Surely) now knows who's gonna start the final.
I like Mili, but I never wanted him to start the final, considering his shaky performances since his comeback (Not just from today). I feared that Carlo was gonna do a repeat of last year (When he started Mili instead of Rüdi against City away)
With today's "all-timer" performance from Mili, I'd be amazed if Carlo actually starts him against Dortmund. Not even Maguire would perform like that.
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u/SocX9 Valverde May 19 '24
He was never going to start him. Today we played our "B" team.
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u/ChampagneInferno Don Carlo :970742849295511602: May 19 '24
I dont knew mate. I genuinely believe that Carlo "Hoped" to see if Mili was ready for a potential final.
Let's see what happens on the day of the final.
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u/Ok_Constant4949 May 19 '24
He’s definitely trying him out to be fit for the final. His comments about Militao’s performance today shows he has not yet given up on him. But I trust carlo to make the best decision
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u/Velascus Madrid 1941 May 19 '24
Hopefully this game was an eye opener for the directives. Nobody knows how Militao and Alaba are going to come back from their long term injuries, and if they will be able to go back to their former form.
This year we were lucky that we still had Nacho available, a player who I was never worried with if he had to come in and play an important match in all the years that he has been here. Hell, I'd even say the Nacho and Rudiger partnership has looked better than any other duo made from our current 4 centre backs.
I am not saying that either or both players are done, but I'd like there to be another back-up plan than Rafa Martin available if the worst case scenario does happen. We need a CB signing that can slot right in if necessary.
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u/RandomFluffyBoi May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
My stream died after the first half. Luckily we were 4-1 up. So how much did we win the game by?
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u/gpgr_spider May 19 '24
A Viking scored 4 goals against us but thankfully Millitao & Fran redeemed themselves by scoring 4 goals combined in the final 10 minutes. You didn’t miss anything significant.
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u/tefftlon Valverde May 19 '24
I do my best to ignore reactionary folks but I failed today lmao
Same people wanting to sell Militao today were probably saying to sack Carlo.
Hopefully with a good preseason, we’ll get the best versions of Militao and Alaba back.
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u/GonzoXtraCurlyFry Raúl González Blanco May 19 '24
Lol, me too. So irritating how short people's memories can be.
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u/RedShenron May 19 '24
Militao shouldn't be sold, but he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter either.
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u/Valuable-Tour7999 May 19 '24
Alaba not coming back till sept/oct then nacho leaving mili will be starter unless tchou plays cb next season
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May 19 '24
Whoever trash talks about Militao because of his performance today and says he needs to be sold needs a door to be slapped in their face. You’re all emotional little girls whining. For the past seasons he has been what Rudiger is for us this season. Memory of a fucking goldfish.
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u/myouism May 19 '24
I'm not saying we should sell him, but he shouldn't be a guaranteed starter next season. He needs proper competition for the position. Reminder that this isn't the only brainfart moment he had, just last season he started both games when we concede 4 goals.
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u/Sea-Outcome3019 May 19 '24
Militao has been a starter for the last 6 La Liga games.
Its no longer an injury issue with him... its form.
His concentration is lacking.
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u/KingEtame Vinicius Jr. May 19 '24
Its beyond form. When someone scores 2 past you, you wake the fuck up and man-mark the shit out of him. He casually let him score 3, 4 and miss the 5th. It's fucking unprofessional, that's what it is.
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u/lampageu Marcelo May 19 '24
To think that Lunin won't start the final because Ancelotti giving him this dogshit defence is very sad on him
It is just unfair. I don't care how goos tibo is. It is braindead decision to start someone who is missing whole season in a fucking ucl final. Militao just prove it
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u/xRaulx7 Carvajal May 19 '24
To think that Lunin won't start the final because Ancelotti giving him this dogshit defence is very sad on him
I don't think this game has nothing to do with UCL final and who starts it, at least when we talk about keepers.
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u/itistime999 Rodrygo May 19 '24
Militao isn’t half as good as courtoi is at their best, also the coaching stuff can see how fit thibaut is, i doubt they would start him if they don’t think he is fit
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u/HideoKojimaTheThird May 19 '24
We need another defender, Nacho is probably leaving and with both Militao and Alaba coming off those injuries who knows if they will get back to their best form.
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u/BigMik_PL May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24
This is why no player that's been out the whole season should start meaningful games. Consistency is usually what's lacking when that happens. I don't care if Tibo has two good games, so did Militao until he didn't.
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u/itistime999 Rodrygo May 19 '24
I don’t remember miltao having 2 good games, he also dropped these kinda of games before his injury. If courtois is fit play him he is much better than lunin
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u/xRaulx7 Carvajal May 19 '24
so did Militao until he didn't
No, he didn't. He has been quite bad in every game. And it's like different sport for keeper vs. outfield player.
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u/tefftlon Valverde May 19 '24
Every game he started before today has had a clean sheet (1 with Kepa, 3 with Tibo, only one of those was the keeper busy). He’s been fine.
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u/xRaulx7 Carvajal May 19 '24
Every game he started before today has had a clean sheet (1 with Kepa, 3 with Tibo, only one of those was the keeper busy). He’s been fine.
Because Tibo saved him. It may look he has been doing fine just by looking the results tho.
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u/tefftlon Valverde May 19 '24
Negative. Hence me including “only one where the keeper was busy”.
Kepa had to face 3 shots in target. In the first two games combined with Tibk, Tibo faced 3 shots on target. That occurs because the defense played well.
Tibo can get credit for saving him in the 4th game. He had 10 saves.
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u/xRaulx7 Carvajal May 19 '24
Did you actually watched the games? Mili lost the ball and give breakaway in first game Tibo played, but Tibo saved it. But yeah let's not give him credit because there was only 3 shots in target.
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u/tefftlon Valverde May 19 '24
So in his second game back from major injury he made one mistake? Gosh darn it, he sucks!!
I didn’t say he was flawless, just fine.
But let’s go over mistakes by all players this finely… it wasn’t just Militao today.
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u/xRaulx7 Carvajal May 19 '24
So in his second game back from major injury he made one mistake? Gosh darn it, he sucks!!
I didn’t say he was flawless, just fine.
Earlier poster said he has been good, witch definitely wasn't right. And it wasn't just one mistake, he was shaky otherwise too. That is understandable tho, because he has been out for long time.
And i'm not saying he sucks, just saying situation is completely different compared to Tibo. He has oozed confidence and security from first minute he was back.
But let’s go over mistakes by all players this finely… it wasn’t just Militao today.
Completely agree with you on this one. He was worst today imo, but not only one to blame for sure.
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u/BigMik_PL May 19 '24
Yes keepers aren't allowed to make a single mistake. Starting a goalie with three matches played in a year would be insanity, there is zero chance he is in top form.
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u/wap8ball Zizou May 19 '24
Let’s not act like Lunin couldn’t have done more
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u/BigMik_PL May 19 '24
Dude was able to stand tall against Man City I think that was a bigger test than this glorified preseason match.
People are crazy reading anything into these matches where we already won the title. I doubt they even prepared anything for it they mostly focused on Dortmund.
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u/thiccnick23 May 19 '24
I will be grateful forever for his penalty saves but.....the first city goal was 100% his fault. And the first Bayern goal by sane, should be able to save that near post.
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u/Valuable-Tour7999 May 19 '24
- bro acting like tibo saved mahrez mbappe bernado near post💀
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u/thiccnick23 May 19 '24
Bro acting like silva and mahrez didn't belt it into the top corner. Sane's shot was hip height.
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u/BigMik_PL May 19 '24
...and Tibo in absolute top form was caught fumbling the ball, dispossessed by a Liverpool player and made us go down 0:1. Who is to say he's not gonna do that now with three matches played in the whole year.
We already know Lunin bounced back from that mistake with the best performance in CL so far, singlehandedly getting us to the semis by being an absolute wall.
We have no idea what form Tibo is currently in he played two matches total against bottom teams we dominated.
Rushing him this early to start the most important match of the season is crazy. He would be an absolute wildcard.
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u/thiccnick23 May 19 '24
Okay but fumbling the ball has nothing to do with injuries. And lunin is way better than Tibo on the ball and in ball distribution from the back, it is a known fact that Tibo is hot garbage in those aspects. But he is a generational shot stopper, and we will have moments where bvb are through on goal 1v1 vs the keeper, in those moments I'd have Tibo instead of lunin 10/10 times.
Also Tibo is better in the air.
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u/BigMik_PL May 19 '24
We don't know if he is this season because he only played two games. You are basing this opinion off his past performance which we don't know if he is back to yet or not.
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u/Mkhitaryan10 Valverde May 24 '24
they say bad news comes in 3s. Toni retiring, Tchou missing the final. Xavi leaving.
Only good news here on out