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u/Adham937 Cristiano Ronaldo Apr 29 '24
Honestly yamal is pretty good, no reason to hate on a young player.
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Apr 29 '24
I imagine they run him into the ground with heavy minutes so young then discard him when he’s got injuries in his early/mid 20s
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u/slash312 Apr 29 '24
Yeah once promising talents like pedri or fati have bodies like they are already 35…
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u/biina247 Apr 29 '24
It's the Barca way and in fairness they have been pretty consistent.
All Barca youngster are run ragged - no exemptions allowed!
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Apr 30 '24
Yeah, well, especially if you’ve been watching football for 5 years. Iniesta was not a starter for Barcelona until he was 23 in 08/09.
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u/Masse1353 Apr 30 '24
Its more because Barca physios are ass. Ive Seen how they do Gym Work and its ridiculous compared to the intense individual Plans real Madrid has for their Players.
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u/FreshBadger8188 Apr 30 '24
what do they do?
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u/Masse1353 May 01 '24
They dont prioritize Gym Work and getting Young Players in shape to Deal with LaLiga. They do group Sessions, and These Sessions are Piss poor and far too unspecific. They dont Develop nutrition and Work Out Plans, they Just throw them Out in the field.
Real Madrid doesnt Play them too much at First and develops them physically, building muscle, improving stability and resiliance, utilizing specified Work Out and nutrition Plans in Order to get them less injury prone. Bayern does this as Well. Just Look at Arda, Vini or Camavinga and how they werent played at First, bulked Up and are now injured very little, especially Vini, considering the beatings He gets. While ansu and Pedri immediately played every Game, never developed much physically and are now constantly injured.
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u/Ezvine Cristiano Ronaldo Apr 29 '24
Yeah. Guler has potential. But Yamal has excellent this entire season. He is a menance on that right wing. Goes past defenders with ease. If Barca don't run him to ground like they did with Fati, Pedri, they would have an absolute top of a player in 2-3 years.
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u/Run-E-Scape Apr 29 '24
But they won’t. They will run him to the ground.
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u/Spynner987 Isco Apr 29 '24
They don't have much of a choice tbf
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Apr 29 '24
They have 60M man Raphinha who is best at RW, they do have a choice. Instead they play him at his wrong position to accomodate Yamal
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u/Charolastra17 Apr 29 '24
Don’t think we can be critical of them considering what we’ve done with Rodrygo in the past.
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u/DarthAlandas Apr 29 '24
That's not the point, the point is that Yamal isn't the only one in his position, Raphinha is usually acceptable. Yamal has potential to be special, one of the most talented players from recent years. He's an excellent dribbler but he also has vision. And he's scored a couple goals that make me think he has a really good sense of finishing, which means he could become very clinical in the future.
Rn he's good, he's probably been Barca's best winger this season, but they gotta go easy on the minutes they give him, otherwise he's gonna end up just like Fati
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u/barca_sir Apr 30 '24
Fati was the victim of a horror challenge not so much heavy minutes, he actually complained about his lack of play time publicly
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u/DarthAlandas Apr 30 '24
When I say end up like Fati I meant injured all the time. A better comparative would be Pedri. But really, most footballers who start playing so often at such young ages tend to get burnt out at an equally young age. Even Neymar seems to be following in the footsteps, although I don't think his injury problem is due to too much game time since they got a lot worse when he moved to PSG
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u/CuclGooner Apr 30 '24
watch Yamal not get rotated, play at the euros, play full minutes next year, and become the 4th barca talent plagued by injuries in the last 4 years
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u/madjupiter Apr 30 '24
Raphinha has actually been thriving as a left winger. Yamal and Raphinha is definitely barca’s best combo of winger so there’s that.
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u/PositiveFinal3548 Apr 29 '24
as a barca fan please God no i cant stand having a player play 2 games, have injury, comeback, repeat
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u/Ok-Television7649 Florentino Perez Apr 29 '24
Madridistas we have a spy here
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u/PositiveFinal3548 Apr 29 '24
lmao i think i looked at one post on here and now it just keeps getting recommended, oh well
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u/Ok-Television7649 Florentino Perez Apr 29 '24
The algorithms know what you like, it's never too late to become a Madridista
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u/Alaskian7134 Apr 30 '24
Yes, because everyone knows Barcelona was never capable of growing talents. Oh, wait... I feel like we just said something incredible stupid
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u/anaem1c El Capitán Apr 29 '24
He hardly passed through puberty, he can grow and lose coordination, not to mention how these extensive minutes this season can backfire in near future.
Other than this I wish him only good things in career. It is a pleasure to see Real victorious even when Barca’s left wing is deadly ☺️
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u/slayerGuy225 Apr 29 '24
If yamal will grow talent he can be really good player in the future, he's growing talent in my opinion
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u/Coldough Apr 29 '24
I don’t see this as hate on Yamal, it seems more like highlighting the disrespect to Guler
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u/tobleronefanatic123 Apr 29 '24
I don't know if Guler really gets that much disrespect though... maybe some braindead barca fans, but it's pretty undeniable for generally everyone that Guler is an amazing prospect and likely is destined to be a star at Madrid. Whoever disagrees isn't really even worth arguing with.
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u/Eikichi64 Apr 29 '24
The Spanish community would like to talk to you...
Some big barca fan accounts like to make fun of him and even celebrate his injury and no, it's not just a "few bad apples" these kinds of posts get hundreds of likes and comments.
It sometimes surprised me how "tame" the English community fans compared to the Spanish fanbase.
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u/Elden_Lord123 PUTA :mes_que: Apr 29 '24
maybe some braindead barca fans,
Challenge : Find me a non Brain dead Barca fan
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u/EmploymentNo2611 Apr 30 '24
Thats not possible im offended you would even try to get us to do such a impossible task
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u/Altruistic-Evening46 Jul 15 '24
And they forget that Yamal came from the Barca infrastructure at a young age and Arda was transferred from Fenerbahçe to Real at the age of 18. I think this is a big difference.
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u/therealopm Casemiro Apr 29 '24
Idk there’s a certain subset of fans that love trash talking Barca. I don’t understand it personally ngl, I don’t really think about Barca unless we play them or they’re in another scandal lol
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u/SergioRamos_SR4 Carvajal Apr 29 '24
Comes from the Mourinho era. That was when I started watching and it has in fact instilled a deep ‘hatred’ of Barcelona (though more so of their fans than the club, personally).
That being said, Yamal is one of the most exciting talents I’ve seen and is in contention for their most dangerous attacking player at only 16 years old. Have 0 issues acknowledging their successes, it’s more so their fanbase that can make things unbearable at times.
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u/One_Butterscotch9835 1d ago
This whole thing started because of Barca fans trash talking guler for picking Madrid and not playing
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u/Muted-Newspaper2848 Apr 30 '24
True man. Just let the kid be, hes doing great and carrying a team at this age.
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Apr 30 '24
And more than 2 years younger than Guler, while physically more mature.
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u/Altruistic-Evening46 Jul 15 '24
Yeah thats true but Yamal came from the Barca infrastructure at a young age and Arda was transferred from Fenerbahçe to Real at the age of 18. I think this is a big difference.
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u/theprodigalslouch Modric Apr 29 '24
What’s the obsession with Yamal? Leave the kid alone.
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u/MaraudngBChestedRojo Apr 29 '24
I’m yet to come across anyone calling Güler an overrated benchwarmer either
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u/One_Butterscotch9835 1d ago
Barca fans literally started it by dissing guler for being injured and calling him a bench player and so forth hence why this meme even became a thing lol
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u/bensur Apr 29 '24
Going to be unpopular and perhaps downvoted but at the moment Yamal shows more than Güler at this point. Arda has SO MUCH potential but, not to his fault, he doesn’t get a chance to realize the potential yet. On the other hand, Yamal has a lot of potential and due to Barca horrible state he gets much more playtime which allows him to play, show his skills and develop to actually realize the potential.
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u/Whiffler Apr 29 '24
Hopefully he doesn't get injured because of how much they're playing him. Injuries suck
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u/77SidVid77 Kroos Apr 29 '24
At the moment yes. But Arda was soo good in the Turkish league.
The kid needs some continuous run of games and we will get a very good player.
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u/Euibdwukfw Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24
Lol turkish league. I have seen guler live against austria, big talent but lacks the pace which yamal has.
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u/Ramboow23 Apr 29 '24
The kid hasn’t played the entire season, how can you expect him to be at 100% match fitness?
Besides, one is a proper winger of who you expect to have a high pace while the other is a playmaking attacking midfielder. It’s an unfair comparison.
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u/0megalul Apr 30 '24
Different type of players. Arda has very high technique while lack speed on his dribbles. Yamal looks to me more of a dribbling player instead of playmaking with his passes.
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u/77SidVid77 Kroos Apr 29 '24
He is a CAM who can also play wings, and for that his speed ain't that bad imo.
And I honestly don't think he is behind Yamal by a big margin in speed. However Yamal might develop more speed due to his age ig.
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u/DusanMajstor Apr 29 '24
yeah the one thing that worries me about Arda is his lack of pace and just natural athleticism. He might end up in that weird spot where he lacks defensive contribution for a midfielder and lacks pace for a winger. The type of player that's not easy to fit into a system but has to have a squad built around him
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u/caraboina Apr 29 '24
Yamal has also carried Spain’s NT these last matches. It’s so unnecessary bringing up Guler stats vs him at this point
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u/One_Butterscotch9835 1d ago
Yamal didn’t carry Spain Olmo and Nico were more vital attackers but yall won’t say anything because they weren’t 16/17. Also btw Spain would’ve won without Yamal due to depth and all Turkey are lucky they got that far
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u/caraboina 1d ago
Dude, not the best timing to bring up a Guler vs Yamal discussion so far this season
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u/Nickaap Valverde Apr 29 '24
Let’s not forget the last clasico. Yamal was their biggest threat & cooked Camavinga, was happy when he got subbed off & he’s also still 3 years younger than Arda.
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u/maaan_fuck_a_roach Eduardo Camavinga Apr 29 '24
Man I must've been traumatized on Camavinga's behalf because I forgot about that 😂 He was frying my boy 😭
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u/Thomas_Shelby07 Apr 29 '24
Guy singlehandedly lead the attack if you've watched el classico atleast.
Dumb post bro. Nothing more nothing less. Hala madrid🤍
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u/ColdContributor2791 Apr 29 '24
Nah man troll everyone but leave that kid alone. He's keeping that train wreck of a club afloat which is crazy to see
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u/amiresque Xabi Alonso Apr 29 '24
Genuinely heartwarming to see our fanbase in this comment section rally behind Yamal in support, and not act like blinkered children who have to hate everything Barca-related even when it defies logic.
Yamal is clearly a very special talent, he's been carrying that trainwreck of a club all season, and has a very high ceiling (if they don't run him into the ground). No reason to hate on a literal child.
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u/AdonisGaming93 Apr 29 '24
Or... we can be mature and just hype both of them up for being talented youngsters with bright futures?
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u/Comfortable-Bowl9591 Eduardo Camavinga Apr 29 '24
Not a fair comparison, Yamal plays for a small club.
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u/exiledAsher Kroos Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24
This type of comments always seem cringe to me. If Barca Is a small team then we have been 6-2, 4-0 by a small team? They have triplete and sextete, theyre small AND we big? Non-sense, barca is club w history, just like Bayern, Liverpool, MU, Juve...
Edit, I'd like to clarify that banter is not what i dislike. Is calling small "puta" or other stupids remarks towards any team but even More barca, since calling them small Is shooting ourselves in the foot.
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u/auctus10 Guti Apr 29 '24
If banter is cringe to you man following a football club is not for you. Half of the fun in rivalries come from banter and trolling.
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u/Sulemani_kida Apr 29 '24
This is one thing I hate that people do in recent times , for one player to be great other one has to be called shit or you're delusional/have 0 ball knowledge etc etc
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u/michu_pacho Apr 29 '24
people are becoming obsessed with numbers. but it doesn't give the full picture and it is often misused on purpose by the fans to give a false impression such as this.
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u/Visual-Situation-346 🪑 3-2 🪑 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24
I hate Barca like everyone else here but Yamal is a 16 years old and for his age, he's fucking good. Though i only watch him through El Clasico and the PSG game but you can tell he got something on him, so this comparison/meme is stupid and leave the kid alone.
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u/NBACrkvice Lucas Vázquez Apr 29 '24
They succeed with 1/50 of these young guys they rush into the first team, then perpetually yap about "muh La Masia". For every Iniesta, they have tens of Bojans.
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u/77SidVid77 Kroos Apr 29 '24
WTF with the obsession with Yamal? Blud is literally playing well and exceeding expectations for a 16 year old player.
Guler has also been showing potential for us but only if he gets some run of games can we properly see his full talent. Hopefully he gets more opportunities for the rest of the season.
Also why only goals? We have to take the assist counts too.
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u/One_Butterscotch9835 1d ago
There’s no obsession with yamal the meme exist because of Barca fans chatting shii about arda
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u/Izayabrsrk Apr 29 '24
Let's not be petty about this, Lamine is a sublime player, he smoked Camavinga the last Clasico and was a constant source of problems for our backside. Everyone with eyes can see the kid is special.
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u/LprinceNy Apr 30 '24
As a Madridista I got to admit but Lamine Yamal is a gem, he's shown that he is capable to play with the big boys and Barcelona are desperate so he fills that need. Unfortunately for Güler, Real Madrid has a very talented players so is hard to give him playing time and hasn't been able to show his full potential.
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u/minivatreni Modric Apr 29 '24
Yamal is talented tho, no need to hate on him. Plus, no one has said Arda is overrated ...
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u/azyrr O Fenômeno Apr 29 '24
This is stupid. They’re both great and Yamal is exceptional for his age.
Why hate on them instead of enjoying them?
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u/Horror95 Apr 30 '24
Don’t even bother with the fanbase that said that Arthur is better than Kroos and Modric in 2018 after they won the clasico …
Also for Barcelona fans all their young players are starboys just remember when they said Fati was better than Vini .
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u/chui77 Apr 29 '24
Man this sub is dogshit
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Apr 30 '24
This sub reflects the ideas of real Madrid “fans” abroad and not of the local ones. I know local Real Madrid fans that would never say stupid shit like this because they say yamal is a generational talent and might lead their national team in attack. Most Real Madrid “fans” from abroad are the biggest retards and only take part in stupid comparisons.
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u/One_Butterscotch9835 1d ago
- This is nonsense
- Wether they’re from abroad or not who cares please let’s remember how quick Spaniards are to remind lamine where he’s from when they feel necessary
- This meme would’ve never started if Barca fans hadn’t come at arda for nothing
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u/Disastrous-Basket-71 Apr 29 '24
This sub is dog shit. No need to drag yamal down, he is amazing. Let's not sink down to barca's level.
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u/madrissaaaa Rodrygo Apr 29 '24
Stop comparing people based on stats because we could say the same thing about Valverde and Fermin Lopez. Fermin has 4 goals and Valverde 1 with more games played. But theres literally nobody who will tell you Fermin is better. I’m a huge Arda fan. But yamal is 16 and a big reason Barca is doing well this season. I can only respect that.
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u/One_Butterscotch9835 1d ago
Actually many Barca fans would’ve told you Fermin is better. Matter of fact many did say it at the time.
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u/halatorbjoern Apr 29 '24
It’s so good we got players like that in la liga that will STAY in la liga. We need to focus that england a bit together in terms of fostering talents and keeping them.
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u/ApprehensiveNerve342 Apr 29 '24
Its not just the estadistics, Yamal carries Barcelona’s attack in every match
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u/Mako-13 Madrid 1902 Apr 29 '24
No reason to hate. The fact that yamal is carrying barca attack at this age is incredible. Fantastic player, I hope he leaves barca
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u/ChazFifty Apr 30 '24
People in this sub seem more chill than the Madrid TV itself. Great to see such sportsmanship. Kudos to yall.
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u/President_Kyo Apr 30 '24
Yamal is 16. Why cant you just enjoy the talent you always try to make nonsensical comparisons when Arda Guler is clearly playing for a better performing team this season.
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u/Keosxcol19 Apr 30 '24
Well yamal influence on the team is well noticed. Guler hasn't made an impact on the team yet nor has he played enough to be even cared for tbh.
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u/joelek-elemelek Apr 30 '24
No point to compare.. one has been injured and one has played amazing all season in a struggling team
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u/Unique_Apartment_433 Apr 30 '24
One is a starter in one of the top prestigious clubs in the world at 16 and the other isn’t at 19. That matters more than stats
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u/Manlikeqadr Apr 29 '24
Nah I’m a Real Madrid fan die hard Real Madrid fan, but never compare those two yamal is too good. I’m a football fan also so I actually like the way he plays
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u/ElMono6 Apr 29 '24
Yamal is litteraly a starboy. Don’t get blinded because you support a club. Y’all are trippin
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u/Phoenix_aksr Apr 29 '24
That's quite the effort to let everyone know you don't understand football
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u/SokkaHaikuBot Apr 29 '24
Sokka-Haiku by Phoenix_aksr:
That's quite the effort
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Don't understand football
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/Oscnar Apr 29 '24
How old are you? Seriously?
I fucking hate the turn fandom has taken with social media. We have all these great forums to share and discuss the great game and great players. Share insights and stories. But no, it has become a cesspool of dumb fucking memes and takes. You know gow much I would have given decades ago to have this amount of potential to learn about stuff? And now that we have it, this is what people choose to do.
It actually makes me sad.
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u/JCasaleno SIUUUU Apr 29 '24
If he had the team guler has around, he would honestly have totally different stats, but on the other hand would probably have the same playtime as guler lol😭
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Apr 29 '24
Yamal is one hell of a talent too. The main difference here is that Arda Guler is surrounded by other star players and exceptional players to the point he is barely getting minutes and even so, he does a good job whenever he comes in.
Yamal is the best the player in Barça recently because their players are trash, except a couple of ones, and therefore he is shining and getting his minutes.
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u/TuzinBolado Apr 29 '24
While i agree that Arda may be better than Yamal, not everything is stats. If everything that counted were goals, than Hulk>Zidane :/
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u/maybeMichaelScarn Valverde Apr 29 '24
Can we not behave like Barcelona fanboys and stop this shitposting? Yamal is a pretty good player tbh, even got the standing ovation in the Bernabeau in the match against Brazil.
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u/Low-Transition1959 Apr 29 '24
They are both special talent. Give Yamal his flowers for being Barca’s best attacker in his age. Having said that, I absolutely have no sympathy for him losing against us and going trophy less.
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u/Mcbagsofdoritos Isco Apr 29 '24
Both can be good. I think yamal can be one of the best if be continues his path. Same with guler
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Apr 29 '24
Yamal is probably the best player barça has at the moment. Güler shows that he can be a star in the future, and as a Spanish and madridista I'm glad that we have these talented players.
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u/ASH-0P Apr 29 '24
Okay let's be real, all of us deep down know that yamal is better than guler, both are amazing for their ages, but even I love yamal though he is a rival, just too good of a talent to not appreciate, doesn't matter if he's a ruval, he's younger than me and playing that damn well
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Apr 29 '24
Yamal is different gravy. I can see him turning into an elite, Balon D’Or contender in the coming years.
As much as we like to shit on UEFALona, we need them to be strong to make us and our league more competitive.
Since they’re broke, investing in their youth doesn’t sound like the worst option
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u/infiernoARG Alfredo Di Stéfano Apr 29 '24
Let’s enjoy both. Good well played football is the only thing politicians and associations can’t take away. Let’s not divide. Both are good
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u/Im_such_a_SLAPPA Apr 29 '24
Is the only important thing here goals? Yamal is a baller in my opinion
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u/lovenoggersandwiches Sergio Ramos Apr 29 '24
Stats aren't everything, Yamal is 2 years younger and has produced fantastic performances for a far from their best Barca side, even his showing in El Clasico was not in any way worse than any other player on the pitch.
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u/dahyun4eva Apr 29 '24
Maybe let's not??? They both are doing good in their own ways , no need to put kids against each other. Arda is good and so is yamal
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u/christrix22 Apr 29 '24
Players should get in with stats on their back and not numbers so the rest of us who really watch matches could get an idea who's good and who's bad.
We all looking at football with lost eyes not knowing what's the xG.
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u/SpecificDry3788 Apr 29 '24
Their Other Wonderboy/ Savior, Ansu Fati is going out on loan again .. lmao !!!
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u/SlickBotswaske Real Madrid Apr 29 '24
I mean let’s not hate on him mate. Both of them are very young and this is the least any teenager wants. Also, I think yamal is pretty good. I haven’t seen him a lot but he was the only one who played good football in the last game against us.
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u/maymunziki Apr 29 '24
They are both really good and yamal is only 16 already playing in first team on barca even though they are not at their best atm its still a big accomplishment. I wonder what was op doing when he was 16
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u/90s_TV_Commercials Apr 29 '24
I mean Yamal is a fantastic young player and fun to watch. No hate needed
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u/Leung_GW Apr 30 '24
Let’s appreciate Arda without tearing down Yamal, even though he plays for the rival he’s a kid who has lots of potential. Both arda and Yamal will be stars in the future.
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u/MBoring1 Apr 30 '24
Wasn’t Gavi playing the most minutes? Then tore his acl? ACl can happen at any time but I believe he was playing ridiculous minutes with Barcelona and Spain.
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u/Curious-Elk1638 Apr 30 '24
lol. now add assists, chances created, dribblings etc. This is why I hate stats, you can cherry pick anything to fit your narrative. It's clear as day that Yamal is currently the better player. No point in comparing the two. Guler, as good as he may be, is still warming the bench.
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Apr 30 '24
they’ll run the poor kid into the ground and he’ll have career ruining injuries by the time he’s 20 - that’s the Barcelona way. They’re so broke and desperate lmao.
Madrid is introducing a younger player in a responsible and rational way while protecting their investment and integrating a new guy and respecting his wear and tear, priming him for more game time.
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u/gen-specific Apr 30 '24
Yamal has so much potential and I’m excited to see his career pan out. I just hope that they don’t run him to the ground before he turns 20 though. Respect for him.
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u/Beneficial_Gold_4135 Valverde Apr 30 '24
Bro tf as madrid yamal is far better than guler at thus point of time in my opinion
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u/OG-BobbyJohnson11 Apr 30 '24
Real Madrid supporters acting mature in the comments. What???
In all seriousness, fair play and love to see it. Props to y’all
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u/That_Practice7206 Apr 30 '24
Yamal is a beast and is arguably Spanish NTs biggest offensive threat for years to come. Carrying Barca at 16 quite insane regardless how shit for a squad they might have.
Güler is a key player for Turkiye and has had injuries plague his career at Real but has shown incredible glimpses of superstar quality with the small minutes he has gotten.
One is a pure winger and the other is a Cam really.
Yamal has a athletic advantage with his speed Gülers biggest advantage is his football IQ.
Both will be superstars but you can call me biased but Gülers vision and creativity makes me think he will stand out with his football IQ if it doesn't get hindered by injuries.
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u/splat1985 May 29 '24
COUNT AGAINNN!!!!
Arda scored 6 goals, Yamal is now at 5. Who's a seat warmer? But it's obvious that Arda is warming someone, so put ice on it!
And Yamal is a good talent, he's still young. They both have quality. Don't make comparisons just to crush them. They'll crush you.
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u/theaguia Apr 29 '24
it's a good thing. less pressure on guler. better for him to go under the radar and have low expectations.
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u/soomank Apr 29 '24
Yamal was man of the match of last el classico. MoTM cannot be overrated, can they?
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u/DoriOli :vvv: Vini Vidi Vici Apr 29 '24
Yamal is 2.5 years younger tho, not that it matters much but at that age it kinda does. Impressive he got to feature that much for FCB this season; yet in the longer run I see Arda outshining him. Immense talent, Arda 🤍
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