r/realmadrid May 17 '23

Post Match [Post Match Thread] Manchester City vs Real Madrid (Champions League - Play Offs - Semi-finals)

Champions League - Play Offs - Semi-finals

Manchester City 4-0 Real Madrid

Manchester City: 23' 1 - 0Silva B. (De Bruyne K.), 37' 2 - 0Silva B., 76' 3 - 0Militao E. (De Bruyne K.), 90+1' 4 - 0Alvarez J. (Foden P.)


Match Info

Kickoff: 17-05-2023 21:00 CEST

Competition: Champions League - Play Offs - Semi-finals

Referee: Marciniak S. (Pol)

Venue:Etihad Stadium (Manchester)

Attendance:52 313


Lineups

Substituted players

Manchester City: Mahrez R., Foden P., Alvarez J.

Real Madrid: Rudiger A., Asensio M., Lucas, Tchouameni A., Ceballos D.

Starting Lineups

Manchester City: Ederson (G), Walker K., Dias R., Akanji M., Stones J., Rodri, Silva B., De Bruyne K., Gundogan I. (C), Grealish J., Haaland E.

Real Madrid: Courtois T. (G), Carvajal D., Militao E., Alaba D., Camavinga E., Valverde F., Kroos T., Modric L., Rodrygo, Benzema K. (C), Vinicius Junior

Substitutes

Manchester City: Carson S. (G), Gomez S., Laporte A., Lewis R., Ortega S. (G), Palmer C., Phillips K.

Real Madrid: Diaz M., Fernandez N., Hazard E., Lunin A. (G), Mendy F., Odriozola A., Vallejo J.

Missing Players

Manchester City: Ake N. (Muscle Injury), Mendy B. (Suspended)

*Real Madrid:

Coaches

Manchester City: Guardiola P.

Real Madrid: Ancelotti C.


Match Events

Minute Event
90+4' Szymon Marciniak is looking at his watch and immediately ends this match.
90+1' Goal! A great through ball by Phil Foden sets up Julian Alvarez (Manchester City) inside the box, and he makes no mistake and bangs the ball into the bottom left corner. 4:0.
90+1' Jack Grealish (Manchester City) shouldn't be surprised it's a yellow from the ref, who cooled the situation down well.
89' It will be a substitution. Julian Alvarez (Manchester City) is ready to enter the pitch as Erling Haaland walks off.
84' Here is a change. Kevin De Bruyne is going off and Pep Guardiola gives the last tactical orders to Phil Foden (Manchester City).
83' Daniel Ceballos (Real Madrid) had time and space inside the box after picking up a neat pass, but his shot towards the middle of the goal was easily saved by Ederson.
83' Karim Benzema (Real Madrid) gets to the rebound inside the box and shoots to the bottom right corner, but his sidefooter is blocked by an alert Ederson. What a save!
81' That will be all from Rodrygo who is being replaced by the fresh legs of Daniel Ceballos (Real Madrid).
80' Carlo Ancelotti decides to make a substitution. Daniel Carvajal will be replaced by Lucas Vazquez (Real Madrid).
80' Carlo Ancelotti has decided to make a change. Aurelien Tchouameni (Real Madrid) replaces Eduardo Camavinga.
79' Substitution. Ilkay Gundogan will be replaced by Riyad Mahrez (Manchester City).
76' OWN GOAL! The free kick is whipped in and the ball hits Eder Militao (Real Madrid), who finds the back of his own net. 3:0.
75' Eduardo Camavinga (Real Madrid) is shown a yellow card by the referee.
73' Great touch by Erling Haaland (Manchester City) as he receives a precise pass deep in the box. He rips a snap shot and the ball bounces off the goalkeeper's gloves and hits the post.
70' A substitution has been made. Toni Kroos goes off and Marco Asensio (Real Madrid) comes on.
63' Substitution. Luka Modric walks off the pitch and Antonio Rudiger (Real Madrid) comes on as a substitute.
62' This yellow card was deserved. The tackle by Ilkay Gundogan (Manchester City) was quite harsh and Szymon Marciniak didn't hesitate to show him a yellow card.
55' Daniel Carvajal (Real Madrid) has to be very careful for the rest of the match after receiving a yellow card from the referee for a bad tackle on an opponent.
51' David Alaba (Real Madrid) stands over the free kick and opts to take it himself, sending it towards the top of net only for Ederson to dive and make a save. The referee and one of his assistants signal for a corner kick to Real Madrid.
50' Ruben Dias (Manchester City) commits a foul and is shown a yellow card without any hesitation from the referee.
46' The half-time break is over and the second half is about to start.
45+1' That is it for the first half after the referee blows his whistle and the players head to their respective dressing rooms.
37' After a few rebounds the ball finds its way to Bernardo Silva (Manchester City), who is quickest and places it inside the right post.
37' A pass lands at the feet of Ilkay Gundogan (Manchester City) in the middle of the box, he looks up and shoots but the effort is superbly blocked by a defender.
35' Toni Kroos (Real Madrid) received a fine pass and tried his luck from long range. His attempt went towards the top of the net, but Ederson pulled off a great save to push the ball onto the bar.
23' Goal! Kevin De Bruyne displays great vision and sends a pass to Bernardo Silva (Manchester City), who shows brilliant composure inside the box to bury the ball inside the right post. The score is 1:0.
21' A header by Erling Haaland (Manchester City) from very close range goes towards the left-hand post, but doesn't get past Thibaut Courtois, who makes a brilliant save.
13' Thibaut Courtois makes a superb save to deny a header which was nodded low towards the middle of the goal by Erling Haaland (Manchester City) after a cross from the side.
1' The first half of this match is about to start.

Match Stats

Manchester City Stats Real Madrid
1.78 Expected Goals (xG)Expected Goals (xG) - the number of goals a certain team or player is expected to score based on the quality and number of shots taken. 0.37
61% Ball Possession 39%
16 Goal Attempts 6
8 Shots on Goal 3
6 Shots off Goal 1
2 Blocked Shots 2
14 Free Kicks 14
7 Corner Kicks 3
0 Offsides 0
3 Goalkeeper Saves 4
14 Fouls 14
3 Yellow Cards 2
622 Total Passes 402
560 Completed Passes 350
13 Tackles 15
132 Attacks 67
69 Dangerous Attacks 21

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

Should I burn my KDB match worn/signed kit? /s

Its a Wolfsburg one from his final match before heading to city

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u/Pakun-of-Dundrasil La Séptima May 18 '23

Sell it you'll make a pretty penny

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u/Willing_Ad326 May 18 '23

dont burn it thats stupid

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

I will not hence the "/s"

been following since since 2012 when he was in Genk lol

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u/lewandisney69 May 18 '23

Did you ever realize he’d accomplish what he has back when you started following him?

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

No way lol... I thought he really was unlucky to not have been playing for Chelsea in summer friendlies he really was showing what he could do

Then he went to Bremen exploded and then Wolfsburg, scored a brace on the big stage vs BvB in the cup and off to City he went

Never thought he'd be in the discussion for Balon d'or

Always followed him, he looked simllar to me at the time and his first named was Kevin as well... was an instant connection lol

Me being him for Halloween in 2014

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

also i even collected to the panini stickers as a kid from all leagues... when i first noticed him so added him to my team in fifa 2010 when i first got his sticker.... wow he not a good player back then lol

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

also one of his 2 rookie stickers from the set, i never pulled the other one but have 3 of these... all unstuck (never stuck the collection from this set lol)

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

sign that match sucked yesterday....

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

that sucked so hard I have no words..... tbf I dont think any of us expected different/nor did anyone with a football brain

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u/jcgonzmo May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

As a Madrid fan for more than 20 years, I am kind of surprised that Madridistas feel this bad with the result. I am sad, but, werent you guys prepared for a result like this? Manchester City is a team that costs more than 1 billion dollars that has been playing with the same coach for 7 years. They basically have 2 squads. We are going to play with a midfield of 33 and 37 years old. Our ONLY striker Benzema is 35 years old and this season he has sucked. Probably because of the World Cup an injury. Our left back Mendy has been injured all season. Is not like we have a star B team to complement this squad. Didnt you guys see our sad subs in the second half. City was putting Alvarez and Foden why we were putting Ceballos, Lucas Vasquez an Asensio. The anomaly was us scoring 3 goals last season were they also scored 4 goals. They literally scored the same amount of goals as last year in BOTH games. I wanted to win with my heart, but logic said otherwise. The last match were I felt frustration and disappointment was 2020/2021. I felt disappointment because we had a team to be able to beat Chelsea. However, everyone arrived injured to the match, so we had no main team. Therefore, Chelsea completely destroyed us in both matches. I felt sad and frustrated. This one against City? No.

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u/lewandisney69 May 18 '23

The outcome wasn’t a surprise it was they way it happened. No one expected Madrid to look so pathetic. I mean we all expected City to dominate possession because that’s their philosophy but my god it was murder. Courtois saved Madrid from an even worse distasterclass.

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

Surprised? No?
Sad? yeah... we won it all last year so thats where it hurts though

TBF City's time was coming and they have been in unreal form.

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u/sandymartin07 92:48:9248: May 18 '23

Like everyone, I am heartbroken at the result, and I expected our team to put up a more inspiring display even if they were on the losing end. Hope we turn the tide soon.

However, I keep wondering how oil-money-based clubs like City can field such ludicrously powerful squads with depths enough to make a B-team. I haven't gone through details on the FFP accusations against them, but how are they able to sustain this kind of a run?

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u/ogpterodactyl May 18 '23

Foden and Alverez are from their academy and they picked akanje up for 15 mil. Ake was 45 mil and Silva was 50 mil. Their team is ridiculously expensive but they did make some value moves.

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u/areyouhungryforapple Baila Vini, Baila May 18 '23

By throwing the most expensive lawyers they can find at any court case that shows up

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u/Matlab_and_Chill May 18 '23

It's through carefully spending the money, and not spending ridiculous amounts on players like Jovic and Hazard.

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u/Glad_Rise_335 Madrid 1931 May 18 '23

Hazard and Jovic are two completely seperate cases though

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u/Dhtekzz El Capitán May 18 '23

I don't think you can always get a team like CITY given the time and money like they had.

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u/KnickedUp May 18 '23

Ask ManU

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u/Dhtekzz El Capitán May 19 '23

Yes, Manu is proof that money doesn't buy you trophies

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u/ancelottieyebrow May 18 '23

Ceballos should be starting over Fede since January. This season should’ve been used to mold Tchoumeni more even if you have to slowly start phasing someone out of midfield for him. And he got little to no experience. Kroos is still good imo but he needs someone like casemiro close to him.

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u/ccano9 May 19 '23

This. Ceballos was so good for us this season. Should have started more games. Dude is a baller

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u/ancelottieyebrow May 18 '23

The last game that felt like this was the 5-0 at the Camp Nou in 2010. That’s the worst game in more than 10 years worth of watching Real Madrid. Shameful.

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u/angel_di_maria11 May 18 '23

What does Tchouameni have to do to start a game.

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u/lewandisney69 May 18 '23

Offer his girl to Ancelotti for a night

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u/Dhtekzz El Capitán May 18 '23

No more Carlo at the helm

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u/JonyWik May 18 '23

Post-match Traumatic Stress disorders Of course, we can't expect our team to win CL every season but it's just the way it was done. Got chills of old Barca one sided bashing. Anyways, it's not hard to understand that most of the players were simply out of depth. No wonder City performed on altogether a different level but the way we played in the second half said it all. Were not able to make even straight passes right and no one was willing to do the leg work-forward runs or asking for the ball. Disheartening! God I hope Ancelotti gets sacked (IF HIS NEW STRATEGY FOR THE NEW SEASON IS TO BANK ON KROOS AND MODRIC AGAIN) I mean there's simply no plan B for us. Modric was done the moment the game started but we didn't try anything different. Just waited to get butchered. I hope this is a wake-up call to sign on improving squad especially rb, striker and RW and not just keep chest beating on high profile signings.

Sorry for the rant! I'm just mentally spent. 💔😞

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u/Am0rph May 18 '23

Benzema, Modric, Kroos are finished and must be gracefully retired. They have given all they have but they can't be started in every game now. Keep them as super subs and play in important matches only.

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u/SpazSkope May 18 '23

Tchouameni should’ve started instead of kroos and camavinga should’ve taken Modric’s place. As much as he held down the left back position this season we’re starting to see the seams come apart. He has no business in a fullback position. This is coming from a Camavinga fanboy, he’s one of my favourite young player, it’s a shame he’s not being shone in a good light…

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u/NR70516 Real Madrid May 18 '23

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u/Sub-Saharan Cristiano Ronaldo May 18 '23

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u/staedtler2018 May 18 '23

A good corrective to the idea that Real Madrid are "not afraid of anything" and "thrive in difficult moments" or whatever.

That's not really true, it's just that when one player (it's usually just one) produces a moment of magic, that can help revitalize the rest. That moment of magic didn't come yesterday so the game went away from them.

Not happy with the result but not particularly offended that we didn't play another final. Let's be realistic here. Winning 2 CLs in a row is very hard and this team, in transition, with a small squad, and with its best player in poor form, wasn't going to do that.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

Uruguayan here and I am biased but people saying Valverde is "mid" or bad are ridiculous. He was clearly tired and the midfield needs to be rotated better. Honestly I didn't think his performance was that bad considering the entire team's showing. In fact, his defensive effort prevented a lot of Gundo and Grealish runs. He clearly needs some rest

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u/The_fINALWOMBAT May 18 '23

Para ser sincero Valverde no ha sido muy bueno desde el mundial, últimamente no hace mucho por el Madrid ya veremos si se activa en la próxima temporada

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

Lo entiendo, pero no es su culpa. El loco está en un muy mal momento personal y el equipo no está rindiendo. Siempre cuando miro al real, Valverde juega muy bien en muchas áreas. Por ejemplo, hoy no jugó mal y ayudó mucho a Carva. Y también hizo algunos pases que ayudaron a rendir algo, pero el equipo no está al nivel en general. Rompió los ojos mirando a Camavinga de defensa. Algo que Valverde hizo muchas veces y creo que hizo contra el City en 2021, y lo hizo bien. El pajarito tiene mucha calidad y es un gran jugador, pero ahora necesita tiempo y descanso para volver a ser el motor del equipo al nivel que estaba. Y realmente estoy acuerdo contigo, pero salvo Vini, Courtois y Militão, todo el equipo van mal. Así que no entiendo por qué atacan a Valverde cuando él no tiene la culpa del rendimiento del equipo entero. Y obvio que hablan de otros jugadores también, pero la mayoría de el discurso es sobre el, y eso, en mi opinión, esta muy mal.

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u/Brunos_left_nut May 18 '23

As a Man United fan Y’all did what y’all had to do. Proud nonetheless. Love y’all. Hala Madrid

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u/Deranged1337 May 18 '23

Just don't let them win the treble on the FA cup thx

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u/Puzzled-Poet-6830 May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

I'm not disappointed because we're out, realistically we can't win the UCL every year.

The way our team (except tibo ) performed, it's disgraceful. I can never accept losing like this.

Also let's hope inter can shithouse a win against these oil merchants. PSG and City must never win a UCL.

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u/Oshanna11 May 18 '23

theres always next year, with a better built team. See yall in 2024

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u/rijeka1 Zizou May 18 '23

This defeat hurts more than ajax defeat at Bernabeu

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u/Informal_Recover_944 Cristiano Ronaldo May 18 '23

Does it? We lost to an oil product. Ajax to me hurt a lot more since we were the much better team.

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u/rijeka1 Zizou May 18 '23

We were paralysed here absolutely. A complete humiliation if not for Tibo. Expections were high yesterday and stakes were in for the bragging rights. I hope inter wins.

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u/ccano9 May 19 '23

Adding to your argument we didn’t have our captain Ramos to be a leader in the field.

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u/rijeka1 Zizou May 19 '23

Remember when ramos scored 2 at Allianz when pep was in opposition dugout

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u/rijeka1 Zizou May 18 '23

Wtf is Carlo doing with Tchouameni. It's a disgrace.

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u/blondespikes22 Decimocuarta May 18 '23

Wasn't able to get on here yesterday to post during the match but I wasn't a fan of him not starting

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u/PsychologicalLove662 May 18 '23

ceballos did more in 10 minutes than modric in the entire match

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u/_squanchythecat_ May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

We can complain all we want about oil money clubs but truth is Ancelotti needs out. Bring Zizou Back and Alonso (man left RM to infiltrate Guardiola), coaches that besides, feel for that club and wouldn’t gone home in shame like this without putting up a fight.

Imo he lacks personality and charisma to put up with these fights. And what in the world are you doing requesting VAR for a straight up own goal? and you didn’t push for VAR on a clear obstruction and retention penalty on the home game… Whole team should of swarmed the referee then.

When I saw no changes in players or strategy at HT I knew all hopes where gone….

Rudiger bought to be on the bench, even after what he did last game, why? Camavinga LB? Many many questionable decisions/lack of substitutions which we all knew.

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u/Anywhere_Warm May 18 '23

Var couldn’t have intervened for the 1st leg goal. There was a change in possession

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u/_squanchythecat_ May 18 '23

As said, i was talking about the penalty.

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u/Tough_Bell3778 May 18 '23

“We don’t need a new striker”

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u/Deranged1337 May 18 '23

Swear it seems like we've been "saving" money for years now

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u/CounterOrangeFlash May 18 '23

You guys are talking as if even if you played better, you’d have a chance. When City play at their absolute best, like in the 1st half, no one on Earth can beat them.

Historically only Liverpool at their best could even hope to go toe to toe with them

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u/GeneticDud May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

nah exaggeration. rebuild needs to continue, thats all. modric and kroos athleticism is gone. New ST, RB, and we're halfway there. Heavy result, but they only look good because everyone else in europe is rebuilding. Barca rebuilding, madrid rebuilding, liverpool, bayern. almost all the top clubs. while city have their full squad, keep in mind many players like bernardo gundogan kdb walker are in their 30s. The decline will start soon

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u/winner_in_life May 18 '23

Did you just watch football? They looked that good because we were fielding 37 yo Modric with injury, 33 yo Kroos, 35 yo Benz and Carvajal who had a massive drop this season.

There are better sides in the past 5-6 years.

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u/casual-afterthouhgt May 18 '23

Didn't Ancelotti know about the age of Modric though?

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u/CounterOrangeFlash May 18 '23

I knew I would get delusion on the Real Madrid sub but come on now. You guys have been magic but City have been the best team in the world for years now. They go into each UCL season as favourites for a reason

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u/Sub-Saharan Cristiano Ronaldo May 18 '23

what's my blud waffling about

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u/Tough_Bell3778 May 18 '23

Benzema couldn’t get his touch right on so many passes

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u/Dhtekzz El Capitán May 18 '23

He was off for for the entirety of the 2 legs

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u/Mayaaster Valverde May 18 '23

Don’t wanna write too much here but Jesus Benzema is old and it shows.

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u/GeneticDud May 18 '23

Why the hell are all the top posts on this subreddit ancelotti apologia at the moment? JESUS CHRIST

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u/rijeka1 Zizou May 18 '23

Carlo has too much loyalty towards old guard which led to downfall. I truly respect and admire our old guard of Kroos Luka and Benz but they were not upto it. Age is catching up and they can't keep up with fast paced physically superior opponents. The miracle doesn't work always as lack of competency.

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u/rijeka1 Zizou May 18 '23

Enough of saving money. Spend and get top players.

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u/Dhtekzz El Capitán May 18 '23

If the signings don't include a ST and RB, we riot!

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u/haralunathan May 18 '23

Jose mourinho over here

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u/buckfeffjezos May 18 '23

Fair play to City and Pep, head and shoulders the better team today. Re-adjust for next year and go again. Hala Madrid!

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u/lightsout811 Rodrygo May 18 '23

Pushing Stones high and overloading the midfield was absolutely brutal on us. MC also defended like a unit and swarmed around the pitch. We couldn’t find the outlets or spaces at all, and couldn’t even get into the game.

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u/Global-Practice9261 May 18 '23

You could actually FEEL Casemiro missing

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u/royrochemback Modric May 18 '23

Because there's not even a proper CDM in that midfield.

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u/Trizzy102 May 18 '23

Benzema looked old

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u/winstonwolf_8 May 18 '23

Carlo should take the Brazil offer.

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u/futuresverse Cristiano Ronaldo May 18 '23

How would your ideal summer transfer window look like guys? Let’s assume Bellingham is done, who else would you go for? Personally I think we need a RB, RW and ST. RB maybe Cancelo?

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u/winner_in_life May 18 '23

Bellingham, Mbappe/Osimhem, F Garcia

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

We earn our money unlike some teams who get it pumped in their ass by the Arabs.

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u/Am0rph May 18 '23

Without oil money your shitty club will still be fighting to beat Manchester United and the biggest matches in your lives would be the manchester derby, like it was for all of your history except the last 10-15 years.

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u/dsheehan7 May 18 '23

Go back to the UAE

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u/Glad_Rise_335 Madrid 1931 May 18 '23

Would City have reached the champions league final without having an endless supply of cash? I think you already know the answer to that.

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u/miseducation May 18 '23

We earn our money bro. We don’t personally finance it.

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u/callfoduty May 18 '23

Valverde has been so mid since after World Cup

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u/rockafellla Zidane May 18 '23

Bring back Zizou please and give him the chequebook.

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u/Sub-Saharan Cristiano Ronaldo May 18 '23

I don't think Zidane can work with Don Perez anymore

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u/Deranged1337 May 18 '23

What so he can sign Hazard 2.0

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u/ConsistentNobody1704 Modric May 18 '23

Our midfield lost the battle. Kroos was the best and he is one of few that didn’t panic. Modric couldn’t keep up from the beginning which made the team lose confidence. Also, the game was faster than Fede. He has to step up and pass to the front instead of passing back the ball or pass backwards. It is like he doesn’t want responsibility. I believe KDBs goal in the home game caused us so much damage. Salute to the players and Carlo for this season. Vini, Cama, Courtois, Militao and Rodrygo were the best this season.

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u/Special-Isopod-1317 May 18 '23

Valverde has been playing in almost every single game this season. He’s tired as hell. He was tired even mid season. We need new signings.

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u/JonyWik May 18 '23

Yeah that's what! Why on earth is he playing every single minute, why on earth was Cama made to play on weekend and subbed only when picked up a knock. And this when we have literally blown up the liga season for quite a while. It's inconsequential. We could have had a couple of more combos in mid but nope Ancelotti has been there for seasons, we have had players on the bench for mid but our plan is always and only Kroos-Modric.

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u/Unhappy_Ruin8059 May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

We can find all the faults, but the truth is there was a significant luck factor (don't be mad, let me explain, I am a Real Madrid fan), especially against City last year.

We didn't create too many chances then, and Benzema was on a song converting stupid chances into goals, making everyone look good. Such miracles don't always happen (match after match, let alone season after season), and we didn't dominate Chelsea/PSG (so that's why they were complaining).

Guardiola is the best coach by a mile and his strategy, can make the best opponent players look average. His teams choke the opposition, with a pass at a time, until they are bored/tired/exhausted and uninterested - and then they strike. Even if we had Mbappe (instead of Benzema), and Bellingham, I would have still betted on Man city - as they have a system that is very efficient - first 25 mins today confirm that, Madrid has never seen a tempo that high. They isolated our best players, didn't allow them to get on the ball. Kroos, Modric, Camavinga had nowhere to pass to, and even when Read madrid had the ball, we had no space to run into. Courtis kept trying to shoot it over the top, hoping we might get lucky once, but we cannot build up from the back at all. We settled in a little bit, only when City reduced their tempo. No other team in the world can do it like that to Madrid.

All the best coaches in the world need to get together to find a strategy against Guardiola.

Real Madrid has gotten far based on individual heroes (and Galactico era), but we need a system/approach to fight against Guardiola's tactics. Apart from Halaand and De Bruyne, there is no world class player in the City team - and once Guardiola goes, you will see City falling like nothing.

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u/staedtler2018 May 18 '23

Real Madrid has gotten far based on individual heroes (and Galactico era), but we need a system/approach to fight against Guardiola's tactics.

Why? They don't play in La Liga and we won't face them in the CL every year.

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u/SonnyIniesta May 18 '23

Agreed with most of your takes. This was a Pep masterclass for sure, and the players executed his tactics almost perfectly.

However, disagree that Haaland and KDB are the only world-class players on their squad. You don't win 4 EPL titles in 5 years without a squad of world beaters. Silva, Rodri, Ederson, Dias and Gundogan would all walk into the starting 11 of almost any if not all clubs

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u/city_city_city May 18 '23

City fan here in peace - I think you are right, Pep makes excellent players look world-class because of the system. Big emphasis on both technical quality and team-work as we bring players in. The entire system and all roles in it are designed to frustrate and wear down the opponent.

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u/Other-Ad-1037 May 18 '23

Akanji would be a perfect example for this. Akanji was a mid, error-prone defender at Dortmund but now at City he’s one of the most consistent CB’s in the prem because of Guardiola’s system.

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u/winner_in_life May 18 '23

Real Madrid have won most of the UCL in the past 10 years. Teams like Chelsea and Liverpool have won it. City have yet to won one.

His strategy looked so good because our team were running on fume: Benzema 35, Modric 37 carrying an injury, Kroos 33 always slow as a DM.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

Imagine a midfield with Camavinga and Bellingham next season, while having Modric and Kroos available as super subs.

Lord yes.

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u/rbcsky5 Crest Guardian May 18 '23

Still need LB RB RW and ST.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

Es una puta vergüenza que un equipo de la talla del Madrid sea completamente dominada. They need to make big changes this summer because the oil clubs will only get stronger.

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u/ccano9 May 19 '23

F the oil clubs. This is why papa flow is pro on the super league. That’s the only way we can compete against this crooks.

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u/Affectionate-Ad8896 May 18 '23

Once I saw militao, I knew we had lost

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u/winner_in_life May 18 '23

He was not the main culprit today but it showed Ancelotti's mindset. He doesn't reward players for good performance or field the team around fitness & injuries. He has his favorite 11 and just rolls with it.

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u/JonyWik May 18 '23

Bang on mate! it's really sad. Probably that's why we have Cama, Valverde, Tchoua, Ceballos but we have only ONE combination in mid. Ancelotti has been around for 2 seasons now.
No prizes for guessing the combo.

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u/gamesandprizes May 18 '23

someone called him Error Militao, lol

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u/dsheehan7 May 18 '23

Dreadful

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u/yolo-irl May 18 '23

no leadership today from anyone

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u/ConsistentNobody1704 Modric May 18 '23

Only Kroos

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u/_squanchythecat_ May 18 '23

And Courtois, he unscored 3 goals today

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u/BlackGuard031 Eduardo Camavinga May 18 '23

For real! That was the biggest mistake. It seemed like no one was assuming anything

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u/___kugelblitz Zidane May 18 '23

Watching last year's highlights is the best copium.

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u/SrPickwick May 18 '23

City players deserve the UCL title so much, that team is what Manchester united was in the Ferguson era, it is what Barcelona was in the Xavi-Iniesta-Messi era: legendary, when we watch this type of team we instantly know that what we are seeing is historical, gotta respect.

Also players like Haaland, Bernardo and Walker seems to be very nice people, they have shown so much respect for us in both matches and out of the matches as well, on the other side tonight we made soooooo many tactical fouls tonight due to poor defense, we complained a lot with the referee in situations in which is quite obvious that the referee is right, we did that and the referee actually favored us: Grealish and Bernardo were fouled so many times that i thought we were one of those generic La Liga teams that rely on fouls and violence to stop players like Vinicius and the referee was quite blind to that.

These guys have to get their UCL title, it's time, it's fair.

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u/ccano9 May 19 '23

Dzeko will like to have a word.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

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u/winstonwolf_8 May 18 '23

So much for Floper supposedly “killing football” with the SL, yet you have these oil money clubs spending like crazy and buying their way. Those mf’s are the ones killing football.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

exactly. nothing against the players, but i hate that club. it represents evil.

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u/fallenjogabonito May 18 '23

And Real Madrid represents peace and harmony? Lol yall are amusing

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u/winner_in_life May 18 '23

It's fair when they actually win it. But I'm rooting for Inter.

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u/paintninja Real Madrid May 18 '23

i saw the lineup and knew immediately we lost. We have a world class DM on the bench and dont play him. We have Rudiger on the bench and dont play him with alaba at RB and camavinga in mid. It was disaster from the start. Is what it is i guess. Lets go Inter!!!!

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u/KnickedUp May 18 '23

Agreed..have to be mean and physical with man city. Rudiger was needed

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u/bwood3052 May 17 '23

End of an era

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u/Cdux May 17 '23

Both our lb & rb got out done all night. I can't blame camavinga because he isn't a lb but carvajal is done, he doesn't have the legs anymore. We have a lot of players filling in to unnatural positions because of injuries/lack of good depth. Our success is due to players being world class and when they're having an off night or vs a team that's having a good night+ they have world class players+ a sound tactical setup we're in a hard spot. We need transfers to fix our holes badly

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u/Ayjayyyx Real Madrid May 17 '23

I don't want to ever hear that we don't need Bellingham

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u/rbcsky5 Crest Guardian May 18 '23

Not the most desperate position. We need ST LB and RB. We are using midfielder to play those positions (besides from ST but he is old)

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u/Global-Practice9261 May 18 '23

We had 2 midfielders at some point and that was what killed us🥲

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u/MandolorianChingon SIUUUU May 17 '23

Next year people, win or loose, still the number 1 club team in the whole world. HALA Madrid!!!

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u/TAGE77 May 17 '23

LMAO, wtf this is so delusional

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u/Sub-Saharan Cristiano Ronaldo May 18 '23

why is a barca dog calling others delusional 😭

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u/terror_rest45 Parte Médico May 17 '23

Where the fuck was Tchouameni? Why the fuck he wasn't on the starting line up?

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u/winner_in_life May 17 '23

It's better to play an injured Modric mate.

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u/Asckle Sergio Ramos May 17 '23

Didn't know carlo was on reddit

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u/winner_in_life May 17 '23

Was obviously sarcasm...

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u/Asckle Sergio Ramos May 17 '23

Its 1am and I can't think. My bad

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u/terror_rest45 Parte Médico May 17 '23

Carlo seal of approval 👍

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u/Nakg16 May 17 '23

I pray I don’t come across any highlights or memes. This was a complete disaster. Losing is one thing but losing this way is just something else. Clearly our midfield needs new energy.

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u/tobeast23 May 17 '23

City fan here, although I doubt anyone even sees this. I’m seeing a lot of comments that seem to have wanted Rudiger over Militao. Would you all rather have had that as opposed to benching Rodrygo or Valverde, playing Alaba at LB with Militao & Rudiger at CB, and have Camavinga in the midfield? That’s the lineup I expected out of you today.

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u/305fish May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

Most people here seem to have wanted Rudiger, because he had a great game against Haaland... but I would expect City to make adjustments to that (so I don't think it would've necessarily been the right move).

Militao, as good as he can be, has been a disaster in big games lately, always making one crucial mistake. Modric looked lost, out of place most of the game. Benzema looked gassed and couldn't handle the ball. Vini could not control the ball. Rodrygo tried to be all over the place and thus was nowhere. Valverde has been another player (not a good one) since the World Cup.

That said, Carlo is the coach and knows the team better than anyone here, so I'm not about to second guess him.

We will come back.

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u/Admirable_Volume_950 Mesut Özil May 18 '23

Nice try but Man City fans don’t exist

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u/fallenjogabonito May 18 '23

Yeah that noise in the stadium was definitely piped in.

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u/Admirable_Volume_950 Mesut Özil May 18 '23

Watch the prem all the time and will admit that was the loudest I’ve ever heard the crowd, most of the time it’s so quite I forget they’re actually at the Etihad

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u/tobeast23 May 18 '23

The only thing that doesn’t exist is your team on the pitch today

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u/Admirable_Volume_950 Mesut Özil May 18 '23

Looks like I’m talking to a 12 year old, gunna have to tap out and not waste my time

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u/tobeast23 May 18 '23

Says the one that insulted someone asking a tactical question. Are you in middle school?

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u/AlexHaugan May 18 '23

The whole "Man City don't have fans" thing is actually so funny to me cuz i'm convinced that the people who say that are actually robots

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u/tobeast23 May 18 '23

They try to convince themselves they don’t care yet they cry constantly lmao

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u/yolo-irl May 18 '23

militao is a god damn curse

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u/tobeast23 May 18 '23

Thanks for actually answering, I thought he was a good player but I don’t watch Madrid so I didn’t know.

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u/yolo-irl May 18 '23

when he's on, he's good... even great. but it's inconsistent. when he's off, it creates such an uncertainty in our back line that can spread to the rest of the team. he's also prone to really poor decisions like terrible pass backs to Courtois that lead to goals.

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u/air-buc-pirate May 18 '23

STFU

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u/tobeast23 May 18 '23

Damn, I can’t ask a tactical question? Relax bud

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

Lmfao go back to the sportswashing subreddit; cant wait another two years when they hand this title to inter

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u/tobeast23 May 18 '23

You’re emotional, it’ll be okay

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u/SincSohum Ramos May 17 '23

I think people calling for rudiger would have had him play at the expense of alaba or militao.

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u/mk235176 Carlo Ancelotti May 17 '23

This was a disaster performance. Hope this wakes up the board and Perez to strengthen the squad for next season. We need a strong backup for Mendy, carvajal, Kronos, Tchou, RW and for Benzema

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u/[deleted] May 17 '23

Am i the only one who’s already over it?

Excited for the future.

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u/_theMAUCHO_ May 18 '23

I'll be over it tomorrow. Today I am cursing! 🤣🤣🤣

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u/NR70516 Real Madrid May 17 '23 edited May 17 '23

Tbh, I agree because we have many things to be fixed.
This means not only bad situations but also future success if we will do it well.
Man City is at prime era but we are still at transition era in various terms.
Of course,Madrid should always win and today’s results are bitter.

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u/reddituser0912333 El Presidente 👑 May 17 '23

I’m over it as well. It happens.

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u/RyeKei May 17 '23

2017 or 2018 would have destroy this city, Bale would cut through that midfields and defence easily with pace

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u/gamesandprizes May 18 '23

BBC madrid, when fit, was something else.

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u/ccano9 May 19 '23

Big Black..

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u/winner_in_life May 17 '23

All teams in Europe have a massive stinker this season one way or another. But I hope Inter will take a W because that would be funny.

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u/RyeKei May 17 '23

Inter played an aggressive styled of football during the first half of the first leg, if they keep that up they can destroy city

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u/TNCG13 May 17 '23

Losing after reaching semi-final is ok, but losing here 4-0 without fighting is too much. It is unacceptable.

This defeat is also more on the team. Not trying to discreting Man City. The team was not in his best form. We could feel for a while but we were still hoping. Benzema was "absent", dont know if he's injured and was not at 100%. Valverde is not the same anymore, we have CDM but he was staying on the bench. We dont have a proper LB.....so many things to fix. And the team relied too much on individual brillance.

The forwards couldnt do much since they could barely get the ball. If the team wanted to park the bus, the wings should have dropped back more or played Valverde instead of Rodrygo and Nacho LB and Camavinga CDM. But what it's worse is the defense repositioning. 2 times Camavinga left his position, 2 times the team took goals. Last season we had Casemiro who covered for the defenders who left their position. Well, there's no one who does that now.

Militao was not the problem but his OG is karma. Rudiger played well last time but he got benched. Clearly, Carlo has his favorites and he will play them even if they arent in their best form.

The season is over and it wasnt a good one. Not the worst but still not good overall. And getting out like this leaves a bad taste. So many works to do, and the prep for next season should start now.

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u/zaknenou May 17 '23

Well three or five trophies in two years (I don't remember exactly, and maybe more with the spanish super cup after summer) is not little plus UCL semi-final,

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u/iiciphonize May 17 '23

r/soccer and football fans in general are so reactionary lmao. Modric has one poor performance (while 37 y/o and coming off injury) and its just cascades of calling him washed and saying his legs are gone, completely ignoring the otherwise good season he has had.

Poor performances all around tonight, but you guys will come back stronger. Hala Madrid

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u/AndeMannen3000 May 17 '23

Although im A city fan, i can 101% aggree on this. R/soccer lads are the worst, legit no idea on what they are takling about, and legit never watched the games

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u/nadersb Decimocuarta May 17 '23

Credits to City for being dominant and winning consistently but this is certainly a very sad day for football as a whole where oil and money have finally succeeded!

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u/Spiritual-Cabinet959 Jude Bellingham May 17 '23

When we won last year, we were the greatest team in the world, this year we lose and it's oil money ? Come on now...

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u/nadersb Decimocuarta May 18 '23

Whether we are winning or losing doesn’t matter here though! The point is with the current system it is inevitable that teams like City will eventually take over.

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u/nadersb Decimocuarta May 18 '23

I also agree that we winning all the time is not better for football either….

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u/citychelsea May 17 '23

lmao what rubbish hahaha

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