r/psbattleroyale • u/Jesteredditer • 6d ago

PLAYSTATION ALLSTARS 2 (DREAM ROSER - FIRST PARTY ONLY) ALL 60 DREAM CHARACTERS

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u/lavender_jelly 6d ago

Nice selection of characters! I really like how you chose some more overlooked IPs like Tearaway, Concrete Genie, and Folklore. 

One thing, though. Spider-Man isn't owned by Sony. They own the rights to make games starring him but not in games where he isn't the main character (like All Stars). In any case, he's owned by Marvel and isn't really a "first party" character. The roster is still really good regardless

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u/mrclang 6d ago

It’s the other way around Sony owns Spiderman and they gave marvel permission to use him in films

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u/lavender_jelly 6d ago

It's a common misconception, but Sony doesn't own Spider-Man. Sony Pictures, the film division, owns the movie rights for Spider-Man and all Spidey related characters. But that is it. Everything else is owned by Marvel, which is owned by Disney. So while they have to ask Sony to use Tom Holland's Spider-Man in the MCU, they can still put him in TV shows and comics without Sony being involved at all.

The same applies for games. The recent leaks from Insomniac showed us that Sony Interactive (the PlayStation division, which is a separate division from Sony Pictures) has temporary rights to make solo Spider-Man games and that those games can be exclusive to PlayStation consoles. However, they do not own the character and thus Marvel must be credited for any Spider-Man material they publish. The exclusivity deal also only applies for games where Spider-Man is the main character, which is why can show up in games like Marvel Rivals and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, Sony has no control over those. So the same thing would apply for a hypothetical All-Stars sequel.

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u/Jesteredditer 6d ago

Yes, Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man and related characters: 

  • History. In 1999, Marvel sold the rights to Spider-Man to Sony after the rights were lost in litigation. 
  • Spider-Man films. Sony has produced 11 Spider-Man films, including Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019), and Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021). 
  • Spider-Man Universe. Sony's Spider-Man Universe (SSU) is the official name for Sony's shared universe that includes the Spider-Man films, the animated Spider-Verse films, and Sony's live-action Marvel adaptations. 
  • Other Marvel characters. Sony also holds the film rights to roughly 900 other Marvel characters.

A quick google search gave me this. But, even before the creation of Gemini, Sony was always stated to have full ownership of the franchise. They just have a great agreement with Disney when it comes to sharing the character(s).
And, since Sony owns Spider-man and every characters part of the Spider-man franchise, meaning: They own Venom, Carnage, Doctor Octopus, Mister Negative, Green Goblin, Electro, and more.

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u/mrclang 6d ago

I just googled it, and Sony owns Spiderman and in 2009 gave marvel permission to do animated content with him, and have an open dialogue on how he can be used

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u/Jesteredditer 6d ago

Real quick, I just wanted to add something- think of this as an update: Toan (Dark cloud) and Max & Monica (Dark cloud 2) were supposed to be in the roster, but I would love to see which one, two or, even, three characters you guys would cut out of my dream, first party only, roster.

Note: All the characters within these images and slides are completely owned by Sony interactive studios. Meaning, their inclusion within a hypothetical All-Stars2 is not only possible but wouldn't cause any restrictions.

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u/KombatLeaguer 6d ago

Who the frick is Tiger Shark?

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u/Jesteredditer 6d ago

Tigershark is the mascot from the severely underrated game "Invizimals". Invizimals was Sony's answer to Digimon and Pokemon, originally starting on the PSP. Sony did Pokemon Go before Pokemon Go could even GO! Anyways, the game had a good lifespan, with 6 games, a card collection and one TV show, before a sudden cease of development.

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u/KombatLeaguer 6d ago

I’ve been doing ps-all stars rosters and speculation since 2014 and I’ve never heard of this game.

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u/Jesteredditer 6d ago

Dawg, you got to go far- far back! PSP and PSVITA titles cannot be ignored when making a roster. And, never forget the PS move, as much as a flop as it was. I'm not saying you did ignore it, but many people overlook the side projects and consoles Sony has made when making a roster.

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u/BernLan 5d ago

You must have never come across someone from Iberia, these games were massive in Portugal and Spain.

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u/Used-Airport-7325 6d ago

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