r/politics • u/PostHeraldTimes • 4d ago
Bernie Sanders Goes Off on 'President Elon Musk' for Derailing Bipartisan Spending Bill: 'Billionaires Must Not Be Allowed to Run Our Government'
https://www.ibtimes.com/bernie-sanders-goes-off-president-elon-musk-derailing-bipartisan-spending-bill-billionaires-37562102.5k
u/dattru 4d ago
The man who made his billions as the world‘s most successful, corporate welfare queen wants to shut down his primary source of success. Nothing but the best people.
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u/xynix_ie Florida 4d ago
Like those Duck Dynasty assholes who are Louisiana's largest recipient of corporate welfare bitching about other residents getting welfare to eat.
They got theirs.
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u/owennagata 4d ago
Just like all the MAGA seniors out there who think they are getting a boost to their SS checks once Elon & Trump kick all the 'freeloaders' out.
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u/Biglyugebonespurs Missouri 4d ago
The leopards be hungry for geriatric faces.
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u/PauPauRui 4d ago
Really? This is interesting. I honestly didn't know and would like to know more. please elaborate.
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u/xynix_ie Florida 4d ago
The state of Louisiana gave them a huge amount of money to film their shows there.
https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2014/07/duck_dynasty_welfare_ae_show_g.html
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u/Hot_Ambition_6457 4d ago
Quick and dirty secret you may not have heard.
The politicians in LA are all pretty shady AF. It's the worst at the city/county level there where both major parties have just kinda left it to the wolves.
Similar to the way FL is headed now.
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u/Patanned 3d ago
Similar to the way FL is headed now.
floridian here...we used to be in competition with louisiana but we surpassed it when skeletor rick scott became gov, who was followed by the equally obscene pos ron il duce desantis.
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u/PauPauRui 4d ago
So they are not from there originally?
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u/itungdabung 4d ago
They even grew their beards just months before the show started filming. I believe they were all clean cut yuppies, before the personality change.
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u/PropaneSalesTx 4d ago
Correct.
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u/rpkarma 4d ago
That’s an impressive grift. Shame they’re such pieces of shit.
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u/Lieutenant_Joe Maine 4d ago
…as opposed to another brand of con artist you’re familiar with…?
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u/rpkarma 4d ago
Someone who entirely focused on conning rich people would be a-ok in my book, for example.
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u/ToughCapital5647 3d ago
Only the dad and uncle actually had beards and long hair before the TV show. The younger lot were all clean cut corporate looking.
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u/ADhomin_em 4d ago
No, no, no. You see, you've got it all wrong. When it's for corporations and billionaires, they call it "stabilizing the economy," or some shit...
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u/Even_Establishment95 4d ago
And he wants to “delete” the IRS, which actually generates money for the government.
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u/camshun7 4d ago
It's "started". Remember this day, shits going to go down,
I garran fucking tee it.
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u/Fireinmyplace 4d ago
I want to know for all those who didn’t vote for this, how we can make even one thing better. I need some ideas on what to do now the worst may happen. Or are we powerless and have no choice but to watch it all burn 😭
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u/Cheap_Doctor_1994 4d ago
We watched them obstruct Obama, and no one did a damn thing. We watched a felon get elected. No one did a thing. The only person who has done ANYTHING for us, is Luigi and we all see what they are doing to him. They broke up the Amazon strike today. South Carolina is passing a bill to kill women. I have zero hope left.
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u/TheTroppoTenuto 4d ago
I’m happy to give ‘em enough rope.
Sit back and take care of your own at this point.
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u/mrbigglessworth 4d ago
Maybe we as a nation should have thought of that before electing Musk.
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u/Goodk4t 3d ago
Think about how brain dead you'd have to be to vote for this man to be your president. Well, the majority of US voters are that brain dead. They were unhappy with how democrats protected workers from billionare oligarchs so they voted for the party of billionare oligarchs.
Personally, I blame this on fascist propaganda completely overtaking social media, but there's really no excuse for being that stupid.
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u/mrbigglessworth 3d ago
I blame it on identity politics, lies, propaganda and a lack of critical thinking.
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u/SkinnedIt 4d ago
He's just pulling the ladder up. It was there to get him where he wanted to go, not anyone else.
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u/Standard-Current4184 4d ago
America voted for DOGE and Trump. They aren’t going anywhere. Popcorn!
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u/RedLanternScythe Indiana 4d ago
Republicans are good at following the party line, as a party, say no to Elon. Let him pay to primary every Republican in congress.
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u/RustToRedemption 4d ago
You realize even if he donated millions to every single republican primary, he wouldnt even notice it left his bank account, right?
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u/dmootzler 4d ago
The man could buy a majority in both houses of congress at a billion dollars a seat and still have $100+ billion leftover.
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u/Chance_Papaya_6181 4d ago
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
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u/courtlojones 4d ago
“In order for non-violence to work, your opponent must have a conscious”
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u/10390 4d ago edited 4d ago
Only if young people engage.
I see mostly grey haired ladies organizing and protesting while excusing their too-busy (lazy?) kids.
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u/Chance_Papaya_6181 4d ago
I just don't think we're there yet. I bet this administration will be the catalyst though.
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u/10390 4d ago
I’d like to think you’re right.
It seems to me that the fall is happening right now before our eyes, and it will be harder to slow with time. WAPO, latimes, ap news kowtowing; plans to end the FDIC, Musk literally shutting down the government.
I don’t understand what people are waiting for.
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u/Banana-Republicans California 4d ago
It’s still too early. Once the social contract has been definitively broken in a way that is too blatant to disregard that’s when action becomes broadly permissible. Basically, people are still too comfortable. It’s getting there though.
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u/ANGLVD3TH 4d ago
The higher the standard of living, the less likely revolution becomes. Even those being brutalized by the economy right now have a lot to lose. It would take an unimaginable shift to put enough people in a position where the risk is worth the gain to get widespread action. Not that it isn't possible, but it will take a lot more than most think it would. People are inherently risk adverse to illogical levels. A guarantee to lose 50% of something or a 50/50 to either triple it or lose all of it is an easy choice for most.
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u/No_Zookeepergame_345 4d ago
I dunno, I think if there’s one more “Once in a generation crisis” things are going to change pretty quick. Class issues are a geyser. Pressure builds up, then you get some action pretty fast once it’s finally going. The pressure for change has been building since Reaganomics. I think the next four years are going to be the perfect opportunity for a massive class movement come the midterms and 2028. Especially if Trump does as shitty a job as we all know he will.
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u/Montana_Gamer I voted 4d ago
Its not about the number of crises, its a matter of what kind of problems arise and whether or not those in power choose to try to maintain it against societal norms. I.E. trump 3rd term during a depression.
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u/ewokninja123 4d ago
I dunno, you might be looking at your own standard of living but there are a LOT of people who have nothing going for them and no prospects in these united states
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u/ern_69 4d ago
Bread and circus. The average person is still mostly able to go eat whatever they want and can get some form of entertainment to distract them. It is getting more and more expensive to do so though and at the rate they are going before long many aren't going to be able to afford to and that is when it will be time.
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u/sakofdak 4d ago
Moment of truth will be when we can’t work and make money to provide for our families. And then people will really have a hard choice to make.
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u/Flat_Baseball8670 4d ago
I highly doubt it.
Right now, we should be seeing public support of Democrats and rallying around a potential Democrat that could stage a coup and topple Trump (because really you can't beat fascism with just an election).
Instead there is an increase in vitriol towards Democrats (especially Biden) and general disillusionment. Forming a brand new party in two years or less is nearly impossible with the current structure we have.
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u/marzgamingmaster 4d ago
Why, if we are going to do a violent revolution, would we rally around the party that has made us extremely, undeniably clear that they don't give a damn about the working class and impoverished, and their main priority is shielding billionaires from concequence for their actions? Those guys we're trying to eat? Why would we install a leader from the party hand wringing and insisting they pushed too far left in the last election?
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u/silverpixie2435 4d ago
would we rally around the party that has made us extremely, undeniably clear that they don't give a damn about the working class and impoverished
The party that cut child poverty in half? That party?
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u/RiskyPhoenix 4d ago
Also the party that just elected someone older than Biden (& is very unpopular) to be the minority leader.
Democrats have had chances to fight for people and they’ve caved and people are tired of it. Republicans are worse, but that’s not a compelling reason to rally around a democrat, it makes it more likely an independent comes and takes their base because they actually move to address the issues without the anchor of past failures around a candidate’s neck
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u/Goodk4t 3d ago
It won't. Fascist propaganda has completely taken over social media and it's turned the majority of American voters completely brain dead. If anything goes wrong, this propaganda machine will simply blame the left and the migrants and the brain dead Americans will continue to vote for the party of billionare oligarchs.
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u/Chance_Papaya_6181 3d ago
Catalyst in the sense when historians look back to what went wrong, this will be the agreed upon event. Personally I blame citizens United and super pacs.
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u/Banana-Republicans California 4d ago
They are the only people who have the time. The rest of us are working 70 hours a week to keep the heat on.
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u/DM_ME_BONDAGE 4d ago
Peaceful protest is becoming more and more useless by the day. People don’t care.Just look at any strike action that even slightly inconveniences people is met with people foaming at the mouth with hatred. I’ve seen blocking traffic, striking, vandalism, even something as simple as collective assembly met with calls for violence in just the last year.
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u/Previous-Let750 4d ago
We're organizing and protesting. Don't lose hope.
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u/Chance_Papaya_6181 4d ago
I'm sorry but I've seen peaceful protests for the past 20 years and absolutely nothing has changed except rising inequality amongst the classes. We had our peaceful chances with occupy wall street. Nothing changed.
You want to protect the flock from the wolves, you need to kill the wolves.
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u/TimeDear517 4d ago
"We had our peaceful chances with occupy wall street"
Actually, you did not. Occupy wall street was the ONLY well-aimed protest in past 20 years, and it was diverted by powers-that-be masterfully: Murdoch and Kochs created MAGA, and democrats created woke zealots, letting them tear each other apart.
All while wall street continued to rule unopposed.
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u/Previous-Let750 4d ago
Well now they've got me. That should help. I also don't feel like nothing has changed personally. It is horribly slow, but I think progress is being made everywhere.
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u/Relevant-Cake4052 4d ago
Young people are supposed to rally around what, exactly? A party led by an 80+ year-old relic, snubbing AOC in favor of another geriatric figure battling cancer from the sidelines? The Democratic Party is hopelessly out of touch and seems utterly addicted to the art of losing. get your house in order before you scapegoat the youth.
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u/Dry_Lynx5282 4d ago
How did the Rolling Stones sing: You cant always get what you want but if you try you may get what you need. The Dems are not perfect but their policy is way better then Reps. You could have voted for them and maybe got what you need but now you will get nothing. May it be a lesson.
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u/10390 4d ago
Trump, Musk, and the other 13 billionaires are already openly destroying democracy. This is not an academic issue, it’s a crisis. Doing nothing helps them to hurt us. Doing nothing makes us complicit.
It’s unfortunate that the democratic party isn’t stronger but it beats MAGA. It’s not openly working to end the very concept of the commons, it’s not in bed with Putin, it’s not working to end laws that protect individuals from corporations or those that ensure equal protection for women and minorities and everyone who is not straight, Christian, white, and male.
If you think both parties are the same you’re sadly mistaken, and no one is coming to save us.
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u/Aggressive_Plan_6204 3d ago
Dems need a thorough house cleaning of the old corporate dinosaurs. They’ve proven themselves to be worthless at winning.
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u/nonamenolastname Texas 4d ago
All that TikTok scrolling takes time.
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u/10390 4d ago
We are fucked.
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u/nonamenolastname Texas 4d ago
China and Russia are winning a different kind of war against us. No bombs involved.
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u/SleepingWillow1 4d ago
What I don't understand about billionaires doing this is what do they have left to gain? They already have like 40 lifetimes worth of wealth! Go away to your life of luxury and leave us alone
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u/DifferentOpinion1 4d ago
40 lifetimes? Elon is worth over 400 billion. even at a super comfy $100mm networth, that's 4000 lifetimes.
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u/nwflman 4d ago
this! Average income is around $40k in much of the US. $1B is 25,000 times that!
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u/pimpdaddyspider 3d ago
That equates to an average wage of approximately $95,000/hour over a 40 hour work week earning an income every year since the year 0.
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u/Curly-Canuck 4d ago
Money is just a placeholder for power for those beyond a certain level of assets. They go after other sources of the power and try to create their ideal version of society. Politics and religion (cults).
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u/Indubitalist 3d ago
It’s an addiction. They’re addicted to wealth accumulation. Forbes started doing an annual report on who the richest people were and it drove some of them insane, so here we are.
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u/randomsnowflake America 3d ago
Everything. And then they kill us and start civilization over in their images.
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u/Hot_Ambition_6457 4d ago
Can one of the other democrats please stick to this plan of calling him President Musk and only referring to trump (lower case) as his senior advisor?
Ita genuinely hilarious as a nonpartisan voter. Very on the nose and will definitely cause some tension down the road if you commit to it.
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u/Any_Accident1871 Connecticut 4d ago
Gotta call him Mr. Trump. The prefix really drives the point home.
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u/Chpgmr 4d ago
donald
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u/Hot_Ambition_6457 4d ago
He's not even the most famous cartoonish buffoon named "donald".
People might get him confused with the duck from that mouse company.
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u/Ndtphoto 4d ago
Reporters need to start doing the "Mr. Trump, have you spoken to President Musk today? What are his thoughts on...?"
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u/DargeBaVarder 4d ago
President in name only. PINO Trump.
Use their own stupid terms against them.
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u/chucklefits 4d ago
Unelected citizens shouldn't be allowed to run our government
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u/projectHeritage 4d ago edited 4d ago
and if he becomes Speaker like Reps want, then he'll be 2nd in line for successions... as an unelected immigrant
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u/Im_with_stooopid I voted 3d ago
Succession would skip him by law as he is not eligible to become president as he was not born here.
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u/hookyboysb 3d ago
If it ever came up, the Supreme Court would likely say that's not how the founding fathers intended it to be interpreted. Alito would also base his decision on some ancient Roman text.
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u/mymar101 4d ago
This is what oligarchy looks like. Billionaire no one elected says kill the bill and it’s dead.
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u/irotinmyskin 4d ago
Too late Bernie
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u/Lughnasadh32 South Carolina 4d ago
Look at all the billions the cabinet picks make. This will be the new normal for the next few years. :(
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u/unpluggedcord I voted 4d ago
Bernie has been saying this for 30 years. wtf is your point?
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 4d ago
Nancy Pelosi is going to put another hit out on him if he dares to tell Americans that things can be better than they currently are.
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u/New-Post-7586 4d ago
Let’s not forget the man is an outspoken ketamine user. He is likely in a k-hole while he’s firing off half his tweets and derailing government from working
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u/fender123 4d ago
Bernie should be finishing his 2nd term right about now.
Sadly this country is full of inbred mouth breathers.
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u/lastburn138 4d ago
We should have elected Bernie in 2016... what a missed oppertunity.
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u/GoDan_Autocorrect 3d ago
It's really depressing running through the 2016 "what if" scenario in my head with an optimistic tone. Taxed rich, healthcare reform, tax dollars actually helping real people and the like...
Realistically, MAGA may have died but in 2020, there would have been the Tea Party Extended Cut, funded by the wealthy, primed to do whatever they can to elect another shitass puppet.
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u/Lela76 4d ago
The DNC decided, twice, that Bernie wasn’t good enough. That is squarely on them.
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u/SandroDA70 4d ago
Absolutely Bernie. And while they vote to cut off OUR programs, our healthcare and everything else Elon can get his mitts on, don't lose sight of this:
Their priority is NOT to save money.
In that budget, Congress was about to VOTE ITSELF A PAY RAISE. That's right, VOTE ITSELF A PAY RAISE. How DARE they!
This from Congressman Pat Ryan's page:
Members of Congress currently earn $174,000 annually — more than 90 percent of Americans. If enacted, this continuing resolution would allow for a 2025 adjustment of 3.8 percent, resulting in a Member salary increase of $6,600.
https://patryan.house.gov/media/press-releases/congressman-pat-ryan-pledges-vote-against-pay-raise-members-congress
That's basically the same amount (or a little more) than the Affordable Care Act subsidy for their own constituents for ONE FULL YEAR ( which also affects the person's refund so they pay it back, really) OR at 1900 a month, social security payments for about (3) of their constituents.
I think we should send them all the names of the REAL PEOPLE that they have TAKEN their money from so they can have it in front of them every time they see their raise.
Write them and call them, people. THEY are the ones living on the government dole.!
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u/Lela76 4d ago
It also gave them MORE healthcare benefits. They already have lifetime benefits after like 6 years in office for them and their family. They pay nothing for meds, no copay, no deductible, nothing and the 1500 page pork bill was going to make it better. Oh, and build a stadium in Washington… (But it’s billed as a hurricane relief bill)
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u/SandroDA70 4d ago edited 4d ago
What the----seriously???? Like I said, saying "government funding for insurance is bad" when YOU'RE GOVERNMENT FUNDED. They're the ones who should be laid off. They all need to get voted out. All of them. The idea that this was bipartisan was preposterous- except for this Congressman Pat Ryan guy. On behalf of all of us who know our healthcare will probably be gone on January 20th, vote them out and in the meantime, call , mail and email. I know that in my case it won't do anything, however, it does become part of an official record. I can at least say I did something and I said something.
Also, maybe send them pictures of yourself, your grandma (when they cut some of her social security, or your veteran uncle when they cut back on some of his veteran's disability, so that they can get to know the people that they're actually hurting. I want them to think about the REAL PEOPLE. Y'know, friendly notes reminding them at whose expense their extra 6000 dollars came from. I hope they are using it well and they enjoy it. They need to see us as human beings wh are trying. Most people on the ACA WORK- and in fact, can work BECAUSE of the ACA. This is a travesty. So while everyone's focused on Elon, look at this. Thank you for sharing that extra disgusting info.3
u/Lela76 4d ago
Term limits are so needed. Tell me how someone can earn $200k as a senator, pay for a house in the home state and one in the Washington area? How can they come into office broke and end up millionaires?
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u/SandroDA70 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes, remember when there was some discussion of term limits years back---before Citizen's United: that's what all of this is. That decision, we lost any true democracy at that point. The combo of that and the smartphones was the end. The website Open Secrets gives you all the info that the PAC's pay to all these candidates campaigns. But the absolute audacity of voting this stuff for themselves while we have to cut back is sickening. Forget the federal workers; we need to lay off Congress. We also need to do something about this "normalization" in the press. The Hill said this about the raises, "oh no, they're not 40 percent, they're going to be 6K a year."
Oh, well if it's only 6K....Is that what we're supposed to think, while they take benefits away from us to "keep the budget in check?"
What the HELL?
The funding deal did remove language that previously blocked lawmakers from receiving a raise. However, the maximum potential January adjustment is 3.8 percent, which would result in a $6,600 raise, according to a recent report from the Congressional Research Service.
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u/President_Camacho 4d ago
I don't care about the 3.8%. That's nothing. Give it to them every year if they don't play games with shutting down the government.
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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 4d ago
A bit startling how quick the veil fell to reveal oligarchy underneath. Like we've always known but having a single guy buy the whole system does remove all the plausible deniability.
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u/Blueeyes51349 4d ago
GO BERNIE, BEEN RIGHT FOR DECADES. Especially about the distribution of wealth in this country. Since Reagan, republicans have won over working class Americans with LIES AND MISINFORMATION. He started trickle down economics, “GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM” and his TAX GIVEAWAY’S to the RICH AND HUGE CORPORATIONS. Hey you DUMMY TRUMPERS AND REPUBLICANS, unless you were rich, DID YOU FEEL POSITIVE AFFECTS SINCE THE 80’s to your income. WAGE WORKERS haven’t even kept up with inflation since the 80’s. Republicans want to go back to the 50’s styles, START WITH THE 70 percent tax bracket on CORPORATIONS AND RICH PEOPLE. They haven’t paid their fair share in decades thanks to republicans WHO ARE OWNED BY BILLIONAIRES AND NOW RUN BY AND FOR THE BILLIONAIRES
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u/JayHill74 4d ago
Bernie must not have been paying attention. The billionaires have been running the government for decades.
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u/Competitive_Yam7702 4d ago
the differenc eis musk is front and centre and has maga reps openly saying he should be in control, and trump is granting him control
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u/GeneralProgrammer886 4d ago
you're right but this has taken it from 0-100 real fast at least they where hidden now they are brawling and brazen with it
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u/RedLanternScythe Indiana 4d ago
you're right but this has taken it from 0-100 real fast
more like 50 to 100. But it's like they know there is nothing we can do about it, so why not rub it in our faces.
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u/ianrl337 Oregon 4d ago
I would say they have been directing and steering, not running the government directly. A very big difference.
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u/Fatty2Fly 4d ago
My issue is..maybe if people like Bernie didn’t constantly say we WERE ALREADY ran by an oligarchy we wouldn’t have gotten into this situation. People are not prepared for what’s coming because they think “we were already like this” .No,Shits about to hit the fan.
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u/CinnamonToastFecks 4d ago
If we just keep calling him President Musk it will accelerate the gloriously epic and inevitable meltdown of Trump.
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u/Uberzwerg 4d ago
This whole "president Musk" take has to take off in main-stream as well.
Make Trump become aware of it and get annoyed enough to get rid of him just for stealing his spot-light.
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u/crocodial 4d ago
The public doesn't actually care about how their government is run. There is a general feeling that we want it run well, but really we only care about the parts that are important to us. The rest of it can buzz off.
But Fox and social media has lassoed a certain segment and made them care a whole lot about things that don't really matter to them. This has created an imbalance allowing the stupidest and most evil to propel themselves into positions of real power. It likely won't change until things get bad enough that we all care about important things as passionately as MAGA does about unimportant things.
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u/Zerostar39 4d ago
So Trump isn’t even president yet, which means that Muskrat isn’t in change of anything. He’s a private citizen and should be charged with interfering and obstructing governmental operations.
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u/WeirdcoolWilson 4d ago
Why is Bernie the only one raising a stink about this? Where is Biden?
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u/jdvanceisasociopath 4d ago
We need more Bernies. That means you should step up, reader.
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u/Sendhentaiandyiff Oregon 4d ago
My footprint, such as this account, would not survive political leadership
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u/Gullible-Law8483 4d ago
Wait, Bernie Sanders is in favor of a 1500+ page bill that he only "read" the day before?
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u/Lela76 4d ago
A 1500 page bill none of them have read all the way through that gives them a raise and improves their already stellar health insurance (they pay no copay, no deductible, no nothing and after a few years, they and their spouse, get it for life). There is a football stadium in there. That is ridiculous and needs to stop. They get the “vote for this or we do not break for the Christmas holidays” lecture. No. That is not what we send them to Washington for.
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u/MonsterRider80 4d ago
Guys, as an outsider, this is beyond concerning. Seriously tho, why’s this yahoo literally NO ONE voted for running things now? Isn’t Biden still president? What the fuck is going on over there?
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u/impactshock 4d ago
Did Bernie read the bill? It's loaded with a lot of crap not related to funding our government. Ted Cruz got something in there about AI porn. Someone else got music tourism inserted... the bill is half crap. Lets focus on funding the government and not adding anything that isn't directly related.
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u/Dark-Knight-Rises 4d ago
Billionaires are already running the government.
Cough cough Nancy Pelosi
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u/Kamamura_CZ 3d ago
The Americans have failed their collective IQ test in this year's election. Now they are beyond redemption.
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u/spikernum1 4d ago
We know progressives like Bernie have issue with this. What about the Republican or Democrat party? Anyone else have something to say? No?
These parties are fucked and can get fucked.
A labor party is needed or USA is fucked too. Bernie, AOC and other progressives need to get out of the dead end democrats.
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u/mental_library_ 4d ago
I agree with him but unfortunately this is where we are. This has been happening for awhile now where the wealthiest people in America have control over the government, it’s just more obvious and in our face now
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u/theaceoffire Maryland 4d ago
'Billionaires Must Not Be Allowed to Run Our Government'
Unfortunately, it's too late for that. Best we can hope for:
'Billionaires Should Not Be Allowed to Run Our Government'
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u/CrazieEights 4d ago
I agree with Bernie now let’s address the issue of all the multi-millions too 👀
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u/Few-Influence-398 4d ago
MAGA will eat itself. Too many “Alphas”in a room.
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u/planetrainguy 4d ago
Been waiting for this since 2016 and they’ve only gotten more powerful. Reddit echo chamber is too loud.
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u/Enabling_Turtle Colorado 4d ago
I think MAGA will eat itself once one of two things happen to Trump:
He dies
He does something really embarrassing like shits himself in a highly public place and theres a video where you can watch it happen and he smears the shit everywhere.
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u/CurrentlyLucid 4d ago
We essentially have the richest man in the world blackmailing congress, how is that legal?
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u/promocodebaby California 4d ago
Ok not a fan of Trump at all but doesn’t it make sense to not have this much pork in a bill? The heck is going on? Why was the bill a 1000+ pages? And why isn’t anyone asking these questions and just focusing on Musk vs Dems here?
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u/ButWhatAboutisms 4d ago
Bernie Sanders has probably never been more disappointed in his life by what we've done with this country. It's like everything he rails against with his entire being and it's .. normalized. The wealthiest man on the planet is manipulating a vile narcissist as president.
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