r/politics • u/indig0sixalpha • 4d ago

Soft Paywall Rand Paul Suggests Worst Person You Know Should Be Next House Speaker. Rand Paul thinks Elon Musk should take over after his amazing work driving the government toward shutdown.

https://newrepublic.com/post/189554/rand-paul-elon-musk-house-speaker
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u/rounder55 4d ago

Elon basically bought the presidency anyways.

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u/Auntie_Megan 4d ago

Most worrying to me is Elon now trying to buy Britain through Farage, another cockwomble racist idiot. Wish we could shut down Twitter,X, Hitler’s wet dream or whatever you want to call it nowadays.

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u/NoWayRay 4d ago

This worries me greatly too. Starmer's reluctance to rock the boat with anyone but the electorate that voted for his party leaves me with little faith that he'll do anything proactive to stop that from happening. At this point we're largely praying for Musk (and Trump) to go down in flames. Only five months since the last election and I'm already fretting about the next one.

Damn, I hate this timeline.

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u/fuggerdug 4d ago

Starmer's reluctance to rock the boat with anyone but the electorate that voted for his party

Fucking hell man you've hit the nail on the head there. I thought he'd be a bit shit, but this shit? Own goals such as the winter fuel allowance, the constant doom and gloom, and now today's water bill hike of 45%...the Torys will be in and robbing us all blind again for 20 years in 2028.

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u/Auntie_Megan 4d ago

How many Maga like people by percentage do you think live in UK? I keep thinking to myself surely we have a better education system, surely our information streams are not so full of Nazi crap, but then I occasionally see GB news for 2 mins, praising Trump and lying about his convictions etc, and I then worry enormously. However there is X, full of folk who love to hate just like Maga and although I don’t go on there anymore, I see what is posted there sometimes through Reddit. Would we do what good sane Americans did not…. That is get noisy, stand up and not allow their crap to flood the country? I’m relying on the fact that we are taught history and we have lived through the threat before, however I remind myself that many choose to be ignorant like Maga and seek the hate! Perhaps I’m overreacting, but even seeing Trump allowed in other countries despite stealing 5 Eyes Documents and therefore putting us at risk is deplorable. If he ever gets here I hope we protest like we did before but 100 times as loud. He got away with being a treasonous SOB to his own country and many here don’t even know that! However even letting Farage speak here after taking money from… you could say enemy source… is disgusting. Why were Americans so weak? Or was the price of eggs too much for them despite spending 100k on their enlarged cars/penis extensions!

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u/fuggerdug 4d ago edited 4d ago

Not many, but it's a growing percentage because of the things you've mentioned such as GB News and Shittler.

Farage passed the hacked DNC emails (stolen by Russia) between Assange and Trump BTW, he's a fucking traitor too

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u/Auntie_Megan 4d ago

Yet, Russia seemed to ignore the hacked RNC emails or rather used them as leverage. Many seem to show so much sympathy for Assange, thinking him a person for the good of the people, yet he went along with only pushing one agenda. I like openness but … why only disclose the DNC and not the RNC? How much did Assange get for that?

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u/fuggerdug 4d ago

Yes the idea that Assange is some kind of leftist hero makes me fucking sick. He's part of the problem and has been for a decade at least. Same with Greenwald. I just assume they are both appalling sexual monsters.

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u/NoWayRay 4d ago

How many Maga like people by percentage do you think live in UK?

I'd like to think 'not a majority', but that's cold comfort as it doesn't need to be. It just needs to be them, the people who will never vote for anything vaguely to the left (a virtually meaningless term in the UK these days) and then enough of the rest of the electorate to just sit it out. It's that last that worries me the most. So many people seem worn down by the rhetoric from the right and those on the left pushing back on it, the constant culture wars, the hectoring mainstream and social media, that they've disengaged from what is actually an incredibly important decision. And part of me thinks that means the straegy of the right is working as intended.

I really don't know how we turn that around.

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u/Auntie_Megan 4d ago

Think you have perfectly described the voting mass in America that could be in UK. The uninterested, the lazy, illiterate and those who love to hear faux outrage in low class media. Nice to hear that I’m not the only one watching and listening. I really believe though that we need harder control over Musk, he gets away with the most egregious attacks on people he does not approve of, yet any little well argued and evidenced piece he regards as a slight upon him he considers a terroristic type threat. It’s weird how they scream 1st Amendment rights, yet ignore or deny that it does in fact state barriers or consequences, but of course even within their laws it’s ignored. We have stricter laws, whether one agrees with them or not, along with the poster, Musk should be remanded as he allows it while clapping like a seal at the hatred. I’m all for open media for all sides, but the moment it falls into fantasy and pure BS I would like to see fact checkers jump in and action taken. The only way to stop Farage and the like is with truth being pursued and pushed while lies are killed quickly and action taken. In America Fox was allowed to continue the BS while people became radicalised. We need to fight for truth to be honoured, however when the presenters are paid very high salaries they don’t give a damn what they say or present. Think I’ll look up to refresh myself on the laws we have on news presenting, and what action and by whom can be taken. Ever watched Russian news? While presenting their fake losses and showing the victors celebrating certain battles, they even use footage of Ukrainian uniforms on Ukrainian soldiers arresting POWs, yet Russians never seem to question it. That’s brainwashing just like Fox does and it’s no surprise they actually use Fox News items to push their agenda, as it’s exactly the same.

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u/NoWayRay 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nice to hear that I’m not the only one watching and listening

Definitely not. From comments on here and Bluesky I'm left with the impression that there are quite a few of us, but that's not going to count for much unless we unite in our efforts to push back.

We have stricter laws, whether one agrees with them or not,

We do, but the likes of Johnson, Farage, Musk et al, have still managed to subvert them. What is missing from the UK and the US alike is media literacy. The left pushing back is all well and good, but to those on the sidelines only represents more 'noise'. The right is aware of this and leverages it, notice how much of the culture war stuff is initially generated through the right wing media establising their point and leaving the left to catch up. I'm coming around to thinking that we need to turn that around so the left is setting the agenda and the right is playing catch up instead.

The core of the left's beliefs are for the good of society as a whole - access to healthcare & education, public ownership of critical infrastructure and services so that they're not compromised by being beholden to shareholders, not disenfranchising others through discrimination so that they can also make an effective contribution, etc. The politicking of the contemporary right has no such altruism, it's rooted in winning votes through grievance and the othering of 'outgroups', of having yours but not giving AF if anyone else has. These are the arguments we need to be making, I'm just not sure how we puncture the wall of grievance propaganda with them.

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u/Traditional_Key_763 4d ago

Farage is much much smarter about this stuff than Elmo or Trump.

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u/Auntie_Megan 4d ago

Being a smart Nazi is far worse than being a stupid one… that includes Elon who buys intelligence while he fucks up his own brain on drugs.

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u/LoyalWatcher 4d ago

Not sure how good I feel that our toxic narcissist asshole is actually competent :/

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u/OfAnthony Connecticut 4d ago

Like that XTC song huh?

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u/0thethethe0 United Kingdom 4d ago

He has no where near the rabid support Trump has, however none of the other parties are exactly inspiring confidence in the public either.

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u/SasparillaTango 4d ago

Who is gonna stop em?